Why aren't you DDing a Volt, /o/?

because i'm not a grandparent faggot

Because my daily commute is 105 miles and I'm pretty sure the battery won't last that long while I cruise at 80 on the freeway.

>>16866075
You will still get 50 MPG from the generator.

>>16866088
I'm sure it's a fine car for putting around town in, but I don't think it would work out on the freeway with a 75mph speed limit.

because V8 luxobarge

It would be my economy car of choice if I wasn't poor as shit

>>16866121

It's a hybrid anon, it's top speed is 100MPH, no one has had an issue with using them on the highway

Even if it were pure electric I'm not sure where you got the notion that it has a low top speed, a Model S does like 150

>>16866152
I thought the Volt was the all-electric?

>>16866018
Because I DD your mom

I don't buy cars the CIA can control

>>16866018
I'd buy one as a toy, I like the idea of genset run vehicles, muh efficiency. But they really didn't need to put all the CIA electronics in it...

>>16866075

The EPA rates the Volt for 38 miles of electric range, but let's say 35 miles just to be conservative. That would leave you 70 more miles with the engine running. The EPA rates the Volt at 40 mpg highway, but let's say 35 just to be conservative. This means you will burn 2 gallons of gas for your remaining 70 mile trip. If we combine this with the electric range from the first 35 miles, this gives us a total of 52.5 mpg.

>>16866121

It's top speed is 101 mph in both electric mode and hybrid mode.

>>16866159

The Bolt is all-electric. The Volt is a plug-in hybrid.

>>16866018

Eventually, most people will have a Volt-like car. They're fucking cheap now because of the rebates, but I'd like to pick up a 2nd gen later on because the first gen's interior was trash.

>>16866178
>>16866221
>CIA

Elaborate, please.

>>16866269
>top speed 101

kek a 90's i4 camry can hit at least 120

>>16866178
>>16866221

Then don't buy new cars because a guy in his Mercedes had his car hacked and sped up without him wanting so and he crashed and died after supposedly uncovering "secretive" information.

Don't buy "Smart" TVs either since those too can be hacked and your conversations recorded without your knowing so. this isn't me being a conspiracy nut this shit-(smart TV hacking)-was just talked about on the national news a week or so ago.

>>16866159
Drivetrain is electric only. But there is a 3 cyl 900cc generator.

>>16866018
How are these reliability- wise? Also just get a Prius

>>16866361
A coworker bought a 2012 brand new and is now at 200k miles.

They are eating through soft tire at lightning speed but I don't think he ever got stranded.

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>>16866287
>the first gen's interior was trash.

How so?

>>16866331

It's electronically limited.

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>>16866383
The best modern interior there is. Combine that with the peaceful silence of the drivetrain and throw in some slightly tinted windows and it's like piloting a futuristic spaceship

>>16866425
>White glossy plastic
Is this the new plastic wood?

>>16866438
I've never seen it done in other cars now that I think of it

>>16866348

The wheels are driven on electric power only, with the engine providing charge for the battery under most circumstances. Occasionally the engine will "assist" the electric motor if the software deems it is more efficient.

The engine has 4 cylinders and 1.4 liters (1,400 ccs) of displacement.

>>16866361
The battery packs are stupidly reliable, there's a shop in Canada making an electric Evora using a Tesla Model S motor with Volt battery packs

>>16866018
I actually really want one as a daily driver

bought a Honda Insight almost two years ago after a tree fell on my beloved and dearly departed 240sx s14.

used Volts were not low enough in price yet.

>>16866361

There is a Volt with 300,000 miles and no battery degradation.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1102736_durable-2012-chevrolet-volt-300000-miles-no-battery-loss

A Volt can be much more than a Prius, depending on your driving habits. According to the On-Star app, my 50,000 mile Volt has a lifetime average of 124 mpg.

>>16866473
Please tell me it was a first gen

>>16866425
Oh great, it now looks like an iphone.

>>16866531
iPhones are all ALOOMINUM

>>16866383

I drove an early version where the capacitive buttons were hit and miss. I don't know if they changed it from then.

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>>16866533
Still looks like one.

>>16866547
>anything white looks like an iPhone
Go back to your grave, Steve Jobs

>>16866553
>simple
>looks like I could break it by touching it
>seems to be simple interface
just because I pointed out one thing instead of many doesn't make me wrong anon.

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>>16866438
>>16866446
Prius. Little blue chub is a bonus, you get to jerk it off every time you have to switch from drive to park or reverse.

>>16866535

They removed some buttons and rearranged others starting with the 2013 model year.

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>>16866425

>>16866535
>capacitive buttons
Why would they do this? They're inferior to mechanical ones in every imaginable way.

>>16866531
No it looks more like a Samsung pretending to be an iphone

>>16866511

Much more efficient than a Prius, I meant.

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>>16866596

>>16866512
nah my insight is the grey 4 door you see in the honda general image.

40/50 mpg and can hold my gun range stuff.

>>16866571
>I'm right because I said so
You're an idiot

>>16866338
Or if you do buy a new car, buy one in manual with a mechanical parking brake and key ignition. Unless they can control the clutch, you can take it out of gear, shut the engine off and lightly tug the brake to stop.

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>>16866292

>>16866880
I didn't say I was right, I just said I wasn't wrong, looks are subjective.

>>16867036
Fuck off, your opinion is wrong

>>16867046
Fuck off GM fag, take your horribly built shit somewhere else.

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>>16867046
>t. butthurt gm fangirl

>>16866018
>spend $33k for a car you dont really like to save a few dollars on gas
>electricity bill is now double
>save $1k a year on gas
>still own an ugly as fuck car
>5 years later batteries barely hold 50% charge
>replace them
>cost is $8k
>mitigate all savings
>could have just bought an 80's corolla or a diesel
>still stuck with ugly fucking car
>$500 month payments

>>16866018
>all the downsides of an electric
>all the downsides of a ICE
>potato ugly
>$34k
LOL chevy, go home you're drunk. It doesn't save me enough in gas to pay for double cost of maintenance. My 1993 corolla beater gets 40 mpg and cost $20 a month to insure. And I've spent a total of $500 on it including purchase price.

>>16867118
>this made up math
the lengths people will go to delude themselves into thinking the electric car isn't taking over

>>16866511
>no battery degradation.
BULLLLLSSHHIIITTTTTTTTTT. The battery mileage is so fucking useless, who can tell anyways.

>>16867136
Sure pal
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/10/chevy-volt-battery-replacement-cost-34000/
http://www.chevrolet.com/volt-electric-car.html
And the KW/h addition to your house is pretty easy to calculate ya faggot.

>batteries are taking over! You can own two cars now to do what one used to!
>want to go more than 300 miles on a trip? Fuck you!!!
>buy this hybrid so you still have to repair the engine but you also get to repair battery shit
>still less mpg than a diesel or 80-90s small car

>>16867118

I love it. It's my favorite car. Because I have solar panels, my electricity bill is unchanged.

>>16867173
>spend 10s of thousands of dollars just so you can own a sub par ugly car and get 8 more mpg!!!!
LOL you battery fags are so fucking gay.

>GM shill please go

>>16867156
>electric cars aren't better than gas cars now, so that means they never will be!

lol if this retard was alive 100 years ago, he would be arguing that horses are better than cars

>>16867193
>battery cars have existed since the 1800's
>still can't beat ICE
LOL moron.

>remove government subsidy
>electric car price triples
>this kills the market

Keep trying nigger.

>>16867127

Or all the upsides, depending on how you look at it.

>>16867193
If you were alive 100 years ago you'd have bought a electric based on the notion that they will be better than ICE "some day".
We don't care about what they'll eventually be, we care about what we have NOW. We can't just jump into the time machine and bring a electric car from the future that runs on a waste recycling generator.

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>>16867201
http://www.businessinsider.com/electric-vehicle-battery-cost-decreases-2016-3
>In 2015, 462,000 people around the world bought electric cars, up 59% from the year before.
>a report from Argonne National Laboratory predicts that electric cars will make up 58% of the light vehicle market by 2030
also government subsidies when you buy an electric car are like a couple thousand you dumbass lol, but please continue ranting and raving like a luddite about how technology is evil and we should all go back to driving carbureted pushrod vehicles with unsynchronized manuals and no electronics whatsoever

i bet you get triggered by electronic parking brakes

>>16867219
YOU don't care. But for many people, EV's are already practical and affordable enough, just look at how many tesla's you see on the road now.

>>16867138

The ~42 miles I get in the warmer months covers most of my driving. My car's lifetime average mpg is 124.

>>16867222
nice strawman
>>16867229
teslas are bought for green cred and because there's free recharging for now, nothing more
it's not like they're cheap or something

>>16867212
What upside?
Getting less mpg that 90's shit boxes? Paying for a $33k daily driver? The double maintenance?

>>16867222
>he thinks I'm talking about rebates
>59% up from 0.38% of the market
ahahahahhaahhahahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
Lrn how percentages work and stop trying.

No one is going to suck off your shitty car purchase, stop trying.

>>16867234
>42 miles
>batteries will take over fuel
LOL

>>16867181

I think it's very nice looking and my average mpg is up by 60 from my previous car.

>>16867239
>>16867240
>EVs taking over the road
>projected to be a majority of passenger cars on the road within 15 years
>"ELECTRIC CARS ARE JUST A MEME!"

lol these luddites are 3funny5me

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>>16866018
>automatic only

>>16867272
>these college guesses that electric cars will take over in 10 years
>market clearly proving otherwise
Sure GM, sure. Fire whoever works for you. Remember when Trump never had a chance to be president too?

>electric is so shitty they still have to attach an ICE to it for it to work
LOL

>>16867272
That's irrelevant though. There's literally no reason to be an early adopter when the technology is clearly immature. I'm not a luddite, I'll just wait for the EVs to actually become the majority before I buy one. Buying a Volt because some day we'll have good EVs is retarded.

>>16867240

I get the electric range of an electric car, without having to be tied to long charge times and hard to find charging stations for longer trips.

I would much rather take the hit in electric range if it means being able to go further than a Nissan Leaf, for example. Thanks to the hybrid design, my Volt is a much more usable car.

My car has had a lifetime mpg of 124 since it was new. It had around 70% oil life when I got it. I've driven it for 21,000 miles and haven't changed the oil yet. It still has 25% oil life left.

>>16867360
Gm, just stop. It's embarrassing. You make it run an 11 sec 1/4 mile and handle like an rsx type s then I'll THINK about being caught dead in one. Otherwise, just stop.

>>16867245

At 16.5 kWh, it's a very small battery compared to the 60 kWh battery in the Bolt and the base Model S.

>>16867306

With low mile 2013 Volts going for $15,000, I think the Volt is a great purchase for today. It's my top recommendation for anyone wanting to get into the technology.

>>16867377

I think it will happen some day.

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>>16867400
>buying a used EV with miles already substracted from the $8k battery
>for $15000
thanks but no thanks, I'll get a 600SEL for 5k and use the rest for gas and the eventual spare parts

>>16867419
It will, but it's irrelevant. The day it achieves that, then it will make sense to get one. Maybe some genius chemical engineer will come up with a revolutionary battery that solves the problem, but until then, the EVs carry too much baggage, literally speaking.

EV cucks BTFO!

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>>16867400
Replace BMW with Volt

>>16867715
This kills the Polar Bear

>>16866338
>don't buy new cars
>Don't buy "Smart" TVs
I don't.

>>16867222
>we should all go back to driving carbureted pushrod vehicles with unsynchronized manuals and no electronics whatsoever
this is what I believe, yes

>>16867715

There's a Volt with 300,000 miles and no battery degradation.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1102736_durable-2012-chevrolet-volt-300000-miles-no-battery-loss

>>16870635
Let me know when that kind of thing isn't news

>>16867715
>>16870635
>miles
Years is the parameter to look for. They typically last 10 years. That 2013 car only has 6 years left.

>>16871243

How else would we know about it? Electric cars like the Leaf and Volt are still new, so high mileage ones are not common. It's great evidence for the reliability of the Volt in particular.

>>16866018
I only DD sports cars.

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Furthest I went between gas fillups was approx 1000 miles. Get at me.

>>16871258

The life of the battery over 10 years is not yet known for the Volt.

>>16871981

Nice! Is that yours?

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>>16871996

Yeee nigga.

>>16872011

Do you like it?

>>16871987
>The life of the battery over 10 years is not yet known for the Volt.
Just more reason to not buy one :^)
Also what makes you think it will be much better than other batteries? It's not like it packs some revolutionary battery tech.
Buying used is dumb when it comes to EVs, they're made for being leased. Sadly it's also the case for most modern ICE powered cars. Even the luxury ones. Back in the day a Benz was made to last a lifetime, now they start falling apart after 5 years. Leasing is also why they lost so much prestige, when you had to pay them in full in order to get them only the truly wealthy could afford them.

>>16867245
>>16867379
actually the Volt only lets you use 10kWh of battery. So you lose 6 kWh of capacity with out actually harming range. Which will take well over a decade.

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>>16872827
Luxury is vulgarity

>>16872827
>Also what makes you think it will be much better than other batteries?

I don't.

>>16872827
>Buying used is dumb when it comes to EVs

I disagree. I think they're the best choice for a used car because of their high depreciation resulting in incredible value.

>>16872842

I never thought of it that way. You might be right.

>>16872903
>incredible value.
Nigger, you can get a new Volt for under $20k after stacking incentives and other shit. The very link you provided shows people talking about this in the comments.

>>16872903
>high depreciation
You know what else depreciates like rocks? Mercs. Because people know that after the first years they become a headache.

>>16866425
The black and white color scheme is pretty nice. Do you have one?

REAL PEOPLE
NOT ACTORS

>>16873383
Real butter
Not margarine

>>16866018
Because I'd rather walk than drive an american car.

>>16866018
I actually do, ama

40 miles on a charge is enough to go get groceries and do other shit. The generator also provides range when you need it.

The gen2 ones are honestly so cheap now that I would actually recommend it.

>>16875928

When did you get it? (If used) How many miles did it have? How much did it cost? Do you have any pictures?

>>16866018
>can't over curbs.

>>16866018
GVWR is about 52,000lbs too low.

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>>16875928

Fucking hell. Even this has almost 3x the range with big inefficient DC motors.

>>16866425
Objectively it was a horrible interior--their interior lead to more errors and longer distraction times, and capacitive touch buttons were primarily the culprit.

Capacitive touch buttons are not a good idea because they dont have any feedback inherent in the button, like a physical button would (you can feel the button clearly depress). So often in the Volt the only way to know if you pressed it was by looking at the screen to see the feedback presented there.

The mapping of the buttons were also a mess. They kinda just threw them everywhere, where they think they made sense.

There's a reason they heavily updated it in the 2nd generation. Capacitive buttons are not a good idea when your users are going to be driving.

Source: Literally work in the UX car industry.

>>16878444
Youre comparing it to a full electric car. The Volt does 40 miles on electric then it turns into a regular prius and can do i think 300miles on gas.

If you want to compare the zombie 222, look at teslas

>>16878548
>double the issues
>but I don't need to stop as often for gas
>but I get to drive an ugly POS car
LOL

>>16878572
>double the issues
Reports suggest its pretty reliable m8

>but I don't need to stop as often for gas
yep, that the idea

>but I get to drive an ugly POS car
aint subjectivity a bitch?

>>16878512
Do you throw up in your mouth a little every time you type "UX" like I do?

>>16866252
my prius gets 50 on the nose

>>16878584
All cars today are "reliable." Doesn't negate the fact you have to deal with an ICE AND battery. It's double the issues. Period.

And no, it's not subjective. It's fucking ugly. Not ALL looks are subjective. Ugly is ugly.

>>16878684
Little bit, unfortunately its the current trendy word.

>>16878696
>All cars today are "reliable." Doesn't negate the fact you have to deal with an ICE AND battery. It's double the issues.

uhh but it hasnt been causing double the issues. I'd agree its double the potential issues because there's 2 motors. But despite the potential for more issues, there hasn't been double the issues.

>And no, it's not subjective. It's fucking ugly.
You're not terribly smart, are you?

>>16878512
Valuable post right here. I hate the capacitive button trend. Looks like most buttons are still capacitive even with the new interior though.
Touchscreens in cars suck too, and so do glossy screens.

>>16878512

I don't find the capacitive buttons that big of a deal, simply because I hardly need to use them. Radio controls are on the steering wheel, and automatic climate control is standard. I just press "auto" and never have to worry about it again, even when I get back in the car the next time. Overall, the interior feels well laid out and exudes a sense of completeness, like the designers knew exactly what they were doing.

>>16866391
Kek by the ECU or the motor as both are electric...

>>16878572
>>double the issues

Zero times two is still zero, so technically you're right.

>>16866252
My gas powered naturaly aspirated car gets 60mpg on the highway.

>>16878688
>>16879929

The Volt is most efficient when the engine is never used. The more it is used, the lower the average mpg. A 38 mile drive will yield infinite mpg. A 75 mile drive will yield 75 mpg. A 112 mile drive will yield 56 mpg.

>>16877183
Little over two years ago, only had 16 thousand on it. I got it from a relative who didn't want it so I only paid 20k. I could take some pictures, I probably will later. It's red so it has 20 more horsepower than the stock version.

>>16878444
It's a shitty car if you plan on frequently going over the 40 mile range (which is what the battery charge actually is, I don't know what they advertise)
It'll also drop, sometimes down to 30, when it gets cold, so if you live in the northeast give up now. That was partially why it was sold to me.

>>16878512
This is entirely correct, fuck console, fuck the touchscreen, it was made by literal monkeys and is the worst part of the car by far. Everything that actually matters is comfy though.

The car it's mostly often compared to is the Prius, and in my opinion, it absolutely shits on it. It definitely didn't at launch, it cost something ridiculous like 35k, but now it's a million times better. Driving a Prius feels like driving a large potato with wheels stuck on it that periodically forgets it has an engine inside. The Volt isn't that much better if you want to go fast, but it's actually fairly sporty. You can look at the top speed of a little over a hundred and cringe (I've hit it, it gets pretty bad after 85mph) but that really isn't what electric motors do best. You can put your foot down and get shitloads of torque pretty much instantly, so for anything under 70 mph it's actually significantly better than most cars. If you get a good deal on one it's worth buying, I haven't had any problems with it, and electricity is cheap as shit where I am so the S A V I N G S are pretty good. If 70% of your trips are within the 40 mile range, it's a great car, if they're not, you should probably look elsewhere.

>>16879965
>hurrrr
Electricity takes resources to generate

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>>16880031
>a Volt owner who doesn't act as a fangirl
Congrats, you're the first Volt owner ITT to actually give good advice unlike the faggot pretending it's perfect.

>>16880031
>It's a shitty car if you plan on frequently going over the 40 mile range

I disagree. Taking a 75 mile trip in it will yield 75 mpg, which is more efficient
than any other gas burning car, except the new Prius Prime, where it is about equal.

>>16880031

That's a good price. What year is it?

>>16880891

Yes it does.

>>16881912
You can get a new one for less than 20k.

Stolen from a comment on an article posted above:
>This article states $40,000 as a Volt price ... not mentioning that this is a sticker price when the owner bought the car is not right. The Volt price has been reduced since then to $33,220 .. minus $7500 (FED incentive)... minus any state incentives (I got $3500 state incentive) ... minus dealer discount (I got $1500)... minus GM card credits up to $3500....minus GM incentives that vary during the year .. I got $1500.
>I've talked to people who bought their Volt for well under $20K.

saged

>>16881901
If you pretend that the battery doesn't exist, yes. If you want to do cost comparison, include how many kW you're using as well.

You're "burning" both gas and electricity, there are two fuels being consumed. If you completely ignore one of them, like you are, then yes, it puts out very impressive numbers.

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>>16880031
Proofs, after much wait.
No room in the garage so it isn't the most artistic of shots

>>16882121
>his state did not waste billions to install electric refill station every highway exit.

I have 3 in my rural town and no one ever use them.

>>16882577
Bread on hood, fag

>>16882767
I would, but I don't have any storebought bread.
You just put the shit in the breadmachine and it makes bread, I dunno m8s.

Anyway, it would be a literal piece of bread on the hood, and I need that for food

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>>16883116
I was just b8ing you m8

>>16883129
But I did really want to put a piece of bread on my hood, I've never had occasion to post a picture of my car on /o/ before so I felt like it was a piece of the culture I was missing out on.

I'm legitimately disappointed to the point where I considered buying some wonderbread just to put on the hood.

I guess this is the power of memes.

>>16883157
Holy moly lol

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>>16883157
>I'm legitimately disappointed to the point where I considered buying some wonderbread just to put on the hood.

>>16882121

Charging the battery doesn't affect my bill because I have solar panels. This isn't a typical situation, but it's one that's growing.

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>>16883969
>implying you got those panels for free

>>16884036

Apparently they were. I didn't take part in it, though. I don't know the details.

>>16884172
>things EV owners say

>>16884189

owner

>>16885597
EV owners in general are always overly defensive and make up savings to look less like fools

>>16885638

k ;)

>>16880031
>You can look at the top speed of a little over a hundred and cringe (I've hit it, it gets pretty bad after 85mph)

What gets bad?

>>16866018
because
>american
>EV
>american
>boring car
>american
>ugly car
>american

>>16886376
Acceleration mostly, horrific coil whine, in general it's not really designed to go that fast.

>>16886471
ew

>>16867273
>Gas engine has no connection to drivetrain
>Somehow expects something other than "automatic" (it's probably more of a direct drive but semantics)

>>16886471

I don't notice any whine. It's mostly tire and wind noise at high speed. It also feels very stable at 101 mph. I feel like I could comfortably travel at that speed all day. I wonder how many kw it takes to cruise at top speed. If it's less than 50 kw, the engine should have no problem keeping up with the power demand. It would be a fun experiment.

>>16887784

I think it is direct drive. While moving forward and up to a certain speed, the car can be brought to a stop by shifting into reverse, and vice versa, GTA style.

Also, the engine does make a mechanical connection to the electric motor under certain conditions.

>>16887784
What's stopping you from putting a manual transmission with a conventional clutch on the backside of the electric motor?

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I wish Chevy would have used the slimmer, cooler mirrors from the second prototype.

>>16890337
common sense

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>>16891267

Also, the tail lights. I really wish they would have spanned the entire width of the lenses like this in the production version.

Is there a name for this specific concept car? It's hard to find images of it. Most results that come up when I search "Chevy volt concept" are of the first one.

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>>16891302

Here is the production version for comparison. The unlighted sections are reflectors. What do you guys think? Sorry for the small picture. It's strangely hard to find a photo of the Volt with it's tail lights on.

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>>16891355

Some people have modified their Volt to more closely resemble the prototype.

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>>16866018
[Scraping Intensely]

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>>16891491

[MPG Intensifies]

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>>16889126
>I feel like I could comfortably travel at that speed all day.
You either never actually hit 100 or your head is so far up your ass it's affecting your hearing.

>>16892789

The tires are noisy, sure, but not uncomfortably so. There's some videos on YouTube showing how quiet traveling at high speed is in the Volt.

https://youtu.be/6cXfVa085JA
https://youtu.be/l8puf1HiqYc (skip to 1:55)

>>16896175
It looks more plasticky than a cuckvette and the cuckvette is literal plastic

>>16896608

Plastic is lighter than steel.

>>16897057
The pen is mightier than the sword

>>16899555
waste

>>16899555

Exactly. ;)

>>16899555
Tell that to the killed Charlie Hebdo editors

>>16901519
Swords=/=rifles

>>16901895
>quality post brought to you by the creators of "the founding fathers were talking about muskets"

>>16902095

wat

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Can you imagine how cramped it would have been if they kept this design? Just look at that tiny greenhouse.