Spy Shots! : Toyota Supra

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>>16861258
The Toyota Supra will share a platform with the BMW Z5, which appears to be heading in a different design direction. Both rear-wheel-drive vehicles will be produced by Magna Steyr in Graz, Austria.

Powertrain options for the Toyota Supra remain unknown. It could source turbocharged four- and six-cylinder engines from BMW, or it could use Toyota’s new twin-turbo V-6. A hybrid version could arrive later down the line.

-- From the MotorTrend article

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Rear

It's a bit safe but I like it.

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>>16861276

>>16861276

That rear visibility though.

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>>16861282

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>>16861289

Yet another ICE car.

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>>16861283
that's what cameras are for

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Sources :

http://www.motortrend.com/news/toyota-supra-spied-up-close-at-gas-station/?sm_id=organic_fb_social_MT_170317_sf63731852&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/03/17/parked-toyota-supra-spy-shots/

WHAT Y'ALL PEOPLE THINK?!

>>16861283
Backup cameras are mandatory safety equipment anyway.

>>16861298
This. When will manufacturers finally move away from obsolete technology and embrace the future instead?

>>16861312
It certainly has the previous Supra's design elements. Looks soft in these pics. I just hope it doesn't look angry as fuck like the other cars.

>>16861310
>>16861314

Inb4 purists acting like technology is bad.

>>16861323

They must hate money.

>>16861327
But it is m80. If most forms of tech left, I guarantee most people would be happier barring the genuine autists.

>>16861351
t. luddite

>>16861258
looks like an original supra with gt86 elements, I'm fucking hyped

needs the fuck off wing

>>16861283
I think some of the glass is covered up too

>>16861276
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>>16861303
These tiny rear taillights look terrible and out of place.

>>16861429
I'm willing to believe they're mostly covered up except for the bare minimum

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I wonder what Smokey will make of the new Supra

>>16861258
>V6
Into the trash it goes

>>16861469
t.amerilard

>>16861514
Australiafag actually. If you want 6 cylinders go for the glorious i6, else head up to V8s, we dont want your shitty van engine.

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>>16861258
pls god be an inline 6

>>16861516
I am all for inline 6, thought you were one of those muh vee ate guys

>>16861469
another anon in the thread said it wasnt confirmed yet what the engine layout would be

>>16861519
We already know it's going to be. And I think you completely miss the facetious nature of that pic.

>>16861524
Yeah I saw. Hopefully they go for the BMW engine, they started up their i6 line again didnt they.

I can imagine anything more bland than a toyota v6 powering this.

>>16861524
i4 hybrid

>>16861527
Don't really see the difference an arbitrary configuration would make. If it's built to compete with the likes of GTRs, who gives a shit.

>>16861258
Is this something special? I walk by these every day on my way to the office in Munich.

>>16861526
We already know? Proof?

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>>16861526
>mfw you realize toyota are lazy chinks and will just use their new V6tt

>>16861598
Don't see why not.

Truly hideous desu

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>>16861265
>that boring ass front
What happend to the ft-1 concept?It was litterally perfect!Hope they at least didn't change interior!
>>16861527
>Hopefully they go for the BMW engine
Suprem_jentemen_98 joined the server
>>/mlp/
>>/lgbt/
>>/out/

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>>16861276
Sights set on the Camaro?

>>16861612
i6>v6 I dont give a shit

>>16861258
>those relatively tiny tires and wheels

God this thing looks so fucking fat.

>>16861618
>world's fastest GTR is a V6
don't see why i6>v6

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>>16861289
>>16861296
>that butt head

Oh god I can't stop throwing up. Someone put this thing out of its misery.

Ugly as fuck, jesus christ toyoda

>>16861527
>Hopefully they go for the BMW engine

An unreliable germacuck engine kind of defeats the purpose of buying a Toyota in the first place.

Then again, Toyota using its own V6 would be boring as fuck. This car is fucked no matter what.

>>16861618
Toyota legendary reliability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meme engine layout

>>16861640
It's not as though the inline sixes the Supra previously had were "exciting" engines. Just some of them had the ability to handle a great deal more power than standard.

>>16861265
What is that weird lump on the front bumper? It looks very out of place. Headlights remind me of the sc400 for some reason as well
>>16861289
rear end looks strangely like an eclipse

How much is it gonna cost? 40's?

NO WING NO BUY

YOU HAD (((ONE))) JOB

>>16861258
>BMW

FUCK

laffin at all the spastics thinking they are going to see the full design in a car covered up with camo vinyl

Was this a leaked photo by the company or was the autist that saw this in person to fucking stupid to look in and get a picture of the interior? Even if it was preproduction I would've liked to see inside the prototype

theres genuinely nothing wrong with a v6 except the sound, seriously

2 seats.

based on a bmw z5 platform.


...its not going to be a gtr competitor.

the integrated spoiler seem off..

it may actually be functional?

0-60.. 5 seconds?

im guessing.

>>16862205
more than you can afford, pal

Will the top spec engine be completely overengineered like the last one?

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>>16862293
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>>16861269

that pig nose looks completely out of place

>>16861312
Ummm... what's with the one slot/hole in the brake rotor right in front of the caliper?

>>16863307
no slot
is tpms sticking out

it looks like a prelude

>>16863321
No it's not. Its not connected to the wheel/tyre at all.

>>16861420
Underrated.

>>16861276
1st gen Tiburon-esque

>>16861519
What's so good about i6

>>16863382
Naturally balanced (only I6 and V12 are), as well as makes gorgeous noise.

>>16861258
It somehow looks worse every time we see it. Toyota should have just made Supra a trim level for the FR-S with a V6 and optional turbo.

>>16861283
>>16861390
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>>16861625
>>16861619
>>16861939
>>16862245
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>>16863377
>>16863390

>ITT: Idiots judge a highly camouflaged and clad-up car by it's camouflaged and clad-up exterior.

>>16863434
When it's finally released and it continues to look like ass, I'll be here to say I told you so.

>>16861413
this, if you actually looked closely, large portions of the glass area are covered by the camouflage

>>16863434
This.
Lots of "professional" itt, must be a long bus ride to home.

>>16863507
Corner windows and back hatch are covered. Windshield and side windows are just portholes.

>>16863603
Blame government regulations

With all the crossovers and pickups cars need higher doors and wider pillers. At least it's not mustang level

>>16863615
There are no regulations requiring this-and-that wide pillars or higher doors. Car makers simply don't wanna put enough R&D time into making thin pillar/low door cars that also perform well in crash tests.

>>16863645
How, if they add doors that are heavier and structurally stronger you guys complain it's pig fat. If they use some crazy lightweight material that's strong you guys complain about the price and nobody buys it.

Whats your solution armchair car engineer

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>>16863434
This. It's like they don't know that there are dedicated teams that work exclusively on making camouflage and body panels to confuse gullible retards.

>>16863654
R&D stands for "research and development". Obviously designing cars that look aesthetically pleasing and still are safe to crash in is going to require a lot of R&D. It's not like I have the concrete answers and design proposals.
I'm just saying that it's not government regulations, but manufacturers' (and customers') wishes for safe AND affordable cars that results in the thick-pillared, high-windowed econobox designs around today.

>>16861465
hes irrelevant, now ones gives a shit about him now

>>16861314
Only in the US where people are too retarded to drive. In Europe not even airbags are mandatory on new cars, so you can still buy the Morgan Plus4 without an airbag.

>>16863731
That's where you're wrong.

>>16861623
>not noticing that the entire car is covered in flares, held by fucking woodscrews
It's not meant to be visible how it's going to look yet. The car is buried under a complete cover. I don't even think the rear lights will use that kind of LEDs even.

>>16861612
Am I the only one who genuinly hated the ft-1 concept?

Good lord, why does it only have two seats? The Supra's like a Japanese Pony Car, why did they base it on the fucking Z5?

>>16864343
2 seats are the future, no one has friends or family anymore. Heck I barely use my passenger seat might as well have a single middle driving seat in my car

>>16864313
Nope. It looks like shit, it always looked like shit, it's only going to look more like shit when it reaches production, and Toyota should fire that designer.

>>16864343
When was the last time it had 4 seats? i don't remember the MKIV having any.

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>>16864356
Had a 944, realized pretty quickly that those back seats are useless, looking up a coupe with actual legroom for my next car. Seeing as the GT86 has literally no leg room in the back, why did Toyota think it was a good idea to not make it a bigger coupe? Surely they could have pandered BMW for some 2 series chassis to basterdize, we already have a hardtop Miata, save it for the MR2 Toyota.

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>>16864370
They've never not had four seats.

Looks less pigfat so nice.

And any Lexuses will start using this engine?

>>16861640
The N54 is reliable as hell. It's basically a modern 2jz.

Also, it's ugly as hell. I used to like new cars until the past two years.

>>16861621
For any car thats going to be actually driven by normal the inline 6 is better, I mean just look at the nightmare v6s are to work on

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>>16861640
Imagine they randomly reveal a 3jz

>>16864370
The MKIV does have 4 seats.

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>>16861326
I think you are going to be a little disappointed,because there's a lot more going than it seems

>>16862634
Kek

>>16863386

Electric motors are too.

>>16863615

Government regulations has little to do with it.

I forgot which one, but a car company already admitted they could make the beltlines lower if they wanted to. Styling is the main reason cars look the way they do today with small windows.

>>16863615
yeah blame stupid state for not having mandatory seat belt

>>16861514
>enjoying the v6 when the I6 is far superior
Kill yourself.

>>16861612
That concept looks horrible and you have 0 taste.

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So has the 86 lost all it's purpose? Should I just wait for the Supra?

>>16865666
one costs 26k and the other will likely cost ~60k

>>16865611
i6s are going extinct just like carburetors boy

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>>16864986
That's a clever way of identifying body lines. Well, what could I say? Let it be good.

>>16861258
>six-cylinder engines from BMW
WTF WHAT

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>>16864381
I use the rear seats in my 86 almost daily. I would have not bought my car if it only had 2 seats.

>>16866262
Seriously?

what will this thing cost out the gate?

~60k USD? can't imagine it will be that much different from the BMW one. we all know how much they mark up their cars

>>16866459
I'm guessing more like 80+. Last I heard, they were going to make it a V6 hybrid to compete with the NSX rather than use a BMW engine.

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>>16866471
There are going to be different powerplant options.

There is no way the base will be 80k.

>>16866471
i heard that shit too, but also that same report said that the base model would use a new toyota i4
this shit could range anywhere from 40k base to 6 fucking digit zone

>>16866499
The NSX starts at $156,000 and it's a pretty obvious target for Toyota to aim at. It's also kind of a sitting duck because it's expensive, not incredibly fast, and nearly every critic has commented on what a bland driving experience it offers. If Toyota can offer similar or better performance with the same level of technical sophistication for $30,000+ less and at least a nod toward driver involvement, they're bound to get boatloads of great press from "Japanese Supercar Shootout!" articles.

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>>16866542
I'm not saying there won't be expensive top end models, but this car is still a Toyota, not a Lexus. They have to make the base model quasi-affordable

>>16866471
That car would be DROPPED just like the NSX already is.

As an FR car, I really don't think they're going to be targeting something like the NSX. I figure that it'll be more a car that's meant to chase Corvettes, M4's, GT350R's, C63, you get the gist.

Yeah, that whole "ultra high performance" category starts bleeding into the "super car" range in terms of spec sheets (horsepower, 0-60 times, lap times, etc.) but doesn't quite get there because the tech either isn't extreme enough and/or the cars themselves are not exclusive/exotic enough.

>>16866560
Woah that looks like a pretty accurate representation based on the lines some anon contrasted in this thread.
What's your source?
Are you god?
Dagumi?

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>>16866612
>As an FR car
i remember some shit saying the hybrid model aka the highest end one will be awd like all the other generic awd hybrid supercars chasing after numbers

6666 get

>>16866635
Yes I an god

>>16866655
Get me my damn croissants

>>16866655
Whoa dubs don't lie

>>16866660
calm down carl.
Check these quints.

>>16864381
problem with the back seats is that the front seats have no room under them for feet
also the seat behind the driver is useless even with a midget up front
>>16866374
>use the rear seats
as a luggage rack ?

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>>16866688
>2017
>Not procreating with women to keep the Master Race alive
You are the reason why we are losing the war

>>16863434
This kek

>>16866459
I"m going to guess we're starting around 35. They're going to offer a range of engines and trims on this, but none of them are going to cannibalize the GT-86.

Personal prediction?

Base model - Non-turbo I6 - 32.5-35k - Options include a manual and a basic A6 with flappy paddles. One or two factory wheel options,cloth interior etc. RWD only. 300hp.

"RS" model or whatever - 38-40kTurbo I4, RWD only. Manual and Automatic choices. Like high-strung grenade Turbo I4. 240-270hp range. TRD goodies kick in here, factory tuning or a "pro" package for a serious boost in power etc. Some nicer interior amenities.

"GT" package - 50k range - Turbo V6 - RWD only, automatic only - 7 speed tiptronic etc. Leather etc.

GT Sport Plus - 58k+ Turbo V6 AWD Hybrid drivetrain - regen braking, electric front wheel assist, passively "AWD" - Much like the G37S it only engages when slip is detected. Automatic only, same as GT.

>>16866803
Why would they not offer a manual on the twin turbo V6 model. Toyota isn't stupid. Nor would they put a turbo I4 in the supra of all cars. That's unrealistic

>>16861258
PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6 PLEASE NO V6

>>16866803
>charging 15k more for a worse engine and leather
?

no offense but this is retarded,
i think itll start a little higher like STI range and go up to vette territory.

i dont see why they'd offer a na i6 (at all) AND a v6tt AND i4t

i think its much more likely that they do NA and TT v6 or i6

>>16861258
Looks like a mid 90s eclipse, frs, and r35 had a baby from some horrible orgy.

>>16863434
>literally too stupid to see lines of a car in a still image because MAHHH CAMUFLUGE!!!!!
LOL how did your ancestors ever survive?

>>16867012
It will either be a Z car competitor or a GTR competitor. That will be the two price points to hit.

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>>16866724
>Master Race
I'm too feeble minded for that

>>16867032
this

>>16867055
god fucking help that child in a crash

>>16867067
...in the garage

>>16867003
it would be interesting to follow its predecessor and use I6

Either the car is brilliantly camouflaged or it's ugly as hell.

>>16861621

education time senpai:

Before we even get into outputs, which isn't even relevant considering you're talking about highly modified cars with built motors that won't last 30k at that level of boost or ever not make you cringe about your piston rings everytime you cold start

>one cylinder head
>half the cams
>easier to balance rotating assembly
>easier to cool, more coolant can be kept outside of the block
>easier to oil, inline six oil pans are more ergonomic and fit to the subframe in general
>smaller footprint
>less vibration inherently before balancing


they're just expensive to produce since the block and head are milled out of larger castings

>>16861612
You need to be 18 to post here

>>16861526
Bmw isn't going to put the b58b30 in it. The v6 of the new lexus models is p much a safe bet

>>16866803
35k base price??? In your fucking dreams. This car will be 45k minimum.

>>16867055
The difference being that the GT86 has semi-useable rear seats.

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>wont be in the 30k range because of the 86
>wont be in the 60k range because of the RC-F
>wont be in the 90k range because of the LC-F

Confirmed for 120k MSRP and GTR-killer. Screenshot this shit, I don't give a fuck

>>16868616
Why would they use the BMW Z platform for such an expensive car?

>>16861258
I'm a bit new to the car scene. What's with this weird black and white paint on some of the newer cars?

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>>16864381
That is why the s-fr is king.

>>16866803
Between s-fr and supra, the gt86 is getting thrown out the window.

>>16868908
it's a camo wrap; the body likely isn't completely designed yet.

>>16868908
It conceals body lines

>>16864396
The LS will have a 3.5 liter twin turbo V6.
http://www.lexus.com/concept/LS/

>>16866262
They've made them for like, ever.

>>16861612
There's a fucking load of spy covering over the curves of the front. That whole front piece is faux. It's gonna be cooler than you think.

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>>16867032
>temporary headlights, temp tail lights

>panels completely covering the sides of the car, the hood, the bumper and rear.

Please tell me how you can see though plastic covering panels anon. I would like to look through girls shirts to see some tittay

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>>16866655
sfr is going to be worse than the 86 in that regard though

>>16870675
oh and its lifted for some reason

>>16870695
meant to quote >>16868927

>>16870695
imblying it will ever get in production

>>16866262
Confirmed 14 year old.

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Here it is you nerds.

>>16870852
>>16870840
Well they botched that

>>16870840
>>16870852
Fuck off with your rendered fakeshit

>>16870840
>>16870852
why post a render when you could just google the ft-1 concept toyota showed ages ago

>>16870907
It's not the same as the ft-1 you double nigger. See >>16864986 and tell me the render isn't pretty accurate.