Is Nurburgring a meme? do laptimes on that track matter?

No and yes

>>16842460
everything that the autistic faggots on this website obsess over is completely irrelevant to the real world

>>16842460
Yes and no.
Lap times dont matter to you unless you race.
Race cars lap times do not help you commute better.

>>16842473
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>>16842512
You mad bro?

only if they met up on the same day and did the tests with comparable drivers, best of 10 laps.

>>16842460
not really given it has features that are being removed from modern roads
.eg changes in elevation
switch backs and banked corners
crests and dips

>>16842460
>is it a meme?
Everything is a meme at this fucking point.
>do laptimes at the track matter?
Consider it a benchmark. The Nurburgerking allowed you to test a car in multiple kinds of road conditions as well as a closed racing environment. It allows you to pick apart car's strengths and weaknesses better. Unfortunately nobody bothered to pay attention to particular sector times and stack them up and they just pay attention to the end result.
No shit the supercar is faster on the straights, but on the technical areas some car's performance will surprise you.

But overall it's not really relevant, atleast not as much as it's stressed.

It's a meme but a good meme nonetheless. The bad thing is that the ring is not monitored or regulated by anyone so a company can make up bullshit and tack on slicks or tune the ec differently to get better times that no one ever would be able to reproduce.

if your favourite car/brand has set a very good ring time then it matters

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>>16842523
>best of 10 laps
>same day
Not so fast Corvette

>>16842647
Cant even do a single lap kekk

>>16842530
wtf are you smoking? Crack?

> it has features that are being removed from modern roads

They flattening out mountains now? No, no they're not...

Banked corners are still being used, especially on highways...just not as noticeable at speed...

Crests and dips? Hmmm...lots and lots of crests and dips here in Canada...

Your statement, in a nutshell, is false...

If you need to compare sports car performance, Nürburgring is the gold standard. It's a long track so the car must be able to endure, it has a long straight and tons of fast non-straights so the car needs to have just pure speed and tons of corners, so the car needs to handle well.

>>16842460
Lap times would be good if manufacturers weren't tuning the car specifically for that track. An obvious example would be that since the Nurburgring is a clockwise track, you can go faster there by tuning the alignment, springs, dampers, corner weights, etc for turning right better than left. You can see how that would be a problem if you're buying a car for the street because of its Nurburgring time.

Cars developed for the nurburgring and sold to consumers are the stupidest things ever. Why develop a car on an outdated irrelevant track and then sell it to the average Joe who will never go anywhere near a track? It just ruins the daily driving feel

>>16842545
This. The XBOX HUEG V8 Camaro has one of the lowest lap times due to horsepower alone. If you look at lap times its almost a direct line of HP to Weight Ratio. There are a lot of technical turns on Nurburgring but it gets offset by long ass straightaways.

>>16842460
Yes but in a good way
Kind of, but you wouldn't get anywhere near that time because you can't drive for shit

Yes
t. GTR shitposter

>>16842460
Not for daily drivers. In fact a lot of testing on the Nurburgring has made some cars worse to drive as they're so specifically set up for the track that regular roads become much more painful to deal with.

>>16842668
>...
what did he mean by this

>>16842460
Well it was built to test by multiple german companies to test cars handling originally.

>>16842460
All laptimes are a fucking meme. Only thing that matters is how good of a driver YOU are.

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If you build a car that will do the best ring times, there is an argument that it will suffer with typical motorway and country road situations which is where we mostly drive them.

Mostly I'm just tired of hearing about the ring in every boring marketing playbook. It's played out.

What some people don't realize, is that it is not simply "HURRR race car vs DEEDEE". Every car being tuned for one specific track end up driving the damn same.

Aston's were noted for having characteristics like no other luxury sports car because they were tested and setup on british tracks.

If every manufacturer built cars to best a particular track there will soon be a whole lot of cars that look, feel and perform identically.

>>16842460
maybe

maybe

it depends on how you look at it. are you looking at how the car performs in certain sections of the track? or are you comparing GTR and Corvette lap times on /o/?

>>16842460
laptimes dont matter on any track

different drivers, different tires, different track conditions. it's fucking stupid, but normie posers love lap times for some reason.

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>>16842460
No, only one track matters

>>16846783
Yeah but nurburgring is so fucking big it has everything. Thats kind of the point of the meme.

Also, daily reminder.

Tesla Model S can't even go all the way around the ring without overheating.

>>16842460
they matter if you're racing on said ring

>>16842787
>since the Nurburgring is a clockwise track, you can go faster there by tuning the alignment, springs, dampers, corner weights, etc for turning right better than left
I'd be very surprised if they do that. The track is so long that there are lots of left as well as right turns. Even on a shorter track (like grand prix length) cars are set up symmetrically so the handling is more predictable and an asymmetric setup gives hardly any improvement in performance.

I reckon cars are set up symmetrically even somewhere like Daytona road course but I'm not sure

Well, manufacturers need a way to evaluate their sports cars. So the nurburgring it is.

>>16847533

A smart manufacturer would boast section times.

Say like that Camaro has one of the quickest times for the whole length, but some hot hatch rips it up in the second section

>>16845110
I agree with James may here.

If you enjoyed it maybe; did many people die?

>>16849303
kek

>>16849259
Any course that starts and ends at the same point will have 360 degrees more turning to one side than the other and will benefit from an asymmetric setup. This isn't just for NASCAR, they do it in F1 as well as other ""real"" racing series. I'm not saying that any of the Nurburgring record cars are actually set up that way, I'm just pointing out that it's something they could use to reduce their time but make the car worse anywhere else. There's plenty of knobs to turn, and many of them aren't normally turned because they're too specific. Thrust angle, rear caster, and cross weight are examples.

>>16849396
Wrong. You can have a track in a figure 8 like position that goes under the previous section of track, then you would have equal turning.