/ORG/ - Off Road General

>>16823863
I don't know what is more gay, "off-road" suburban or nigger donk suburban. Both are useless and retarded.

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LOOK GUYS I AM ALL OFF THE ROAD AND SHIT xD

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VROOM VROOM LETS GO OFFROADING

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>>16823878
butthurt toyota fangirl that's never been in a Suburban detected.

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>>16823893
HOLLY COW, BARN ON WHEELS CAN CROSS 4 INCHES OF WATER! CALL THE NEWS!

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>>16823885
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>>16823953
>off road
>paved surface
I don't see what point you're trying to make, but I don't think you're succeeding.

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>>16823979
>implying

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Enjoying the "I hate daylight saving" pre-Death Valley trip. Beautiful weather/scenery/wheelin'.

>>16823878
just like your crossover that you "offroad" over parking blocks?

You don't belong here.

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>>16823863
Doing brake repairs later today, had a caliper piston sieze up, not sure why but I just got new front brake components anyways because they are long over due.

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UAZ project is soon done
Only some interiour work and changing the accumulator left

>>16824111
Check to make sure you haven't overextended a brake line.

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Explored some pueblo roads yesterday. Hiked some sandstone outcrops, dicked around at an old gypsum mine, and became acutely aware that I need new shocks.

>>16824228
New shocks? You need a new grill/front end nigga...

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>>16823863
To add to the suburban awesomeness.

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>>16824285
Showing jeeps and Toyotas how it's done. And they say suburbans can't flex...

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>>16824290
More suburban, on 42s...

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>sand dunes

>>16823863
>overlanding/camping

>>16823893
>trail riding

>>16823979
>rocks

>>16824285
>mud

A lot of people don't realize just how versatile a Suburban is.

>>16824281
>hating on the grill delete

I'm slowly fixing the front end. You can't really tell from the pic but that's a freshly installed bumper support bar up front. I'm going to paint the new fender this weekend and then start putting the rest of it together.

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>>16824290
>>16824296
37 MTRs to 42 Pitbull Rockers?

Torn between 38.5x14.50 TSL SX and 42x15 TSL SX II.
42s obviously have a size advantage and deeper tread, but require another gear swap and a lot more trimming.

>>16824344
How bad are your eyes?

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>>16824344
More tire is better then less with a long ass suburban. The 37" MTR military tires to 41.5" PitBull rocker radials. You definitely need more engine to spin those suckers in the mud... Ha

See attached pic for all the trimming I did with ~5" of lift and 41.5" pitbulls.

>>16824373
I was supposed to get glasses but never did, so very. Why?

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>>16824344
Should be a better pic of the trimmed fenders with the larger tires...

>>16824344
Remember trimming is free, also gear more then you think you should with the bigger tire. I had 5.13s with 37s, worked very well, but with the 41.5s that gearing wasn't quite enough. But with the 14 bolt rear the lowest you can go is 5.38s. Which still would have been better, with the 41.5s. If you have a Dana 70 HD rear like I have now, that'll go under my K5, then you can gear a whole lot lower, like 6.17 or 7.17 low, but make sure you have an overdrive transmission with that low of gearing.

>>16824386
Engine is going to be an intercooled 6.5 diesel with an HX35 regardless.
Might eventually do 5.13s if I go with 38.5s but 4.88 should be plenty for now. Would definitely want 5.38s if I go to 42s.

I wish Interco would just make a 40x14.50R16.5 TSL SXII

>>16824388
All the lights.

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>>16824409
They serve different purposes, not intended to all be run at once.

>I have five Hella 4000s for the roof too

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>>16824406
I totally agree, if they made a 40" SX tire I'd buy a set this minute for my K5 build. I'd also like to see PitBull make the rocker radial, or bias tire in a true 40" tire for 16.5" wheels, cuz double bead lock wheels are the shit. I have a set of 24bolt H1 wheels for the K5 as well. Probably gonna end up with the 38x12.50 SXs for it then decide if I want to run 5.13s or jump up to 6.17s, fuck the highway mileage... LOL

>>16824424
40" would require trimming but I know it's doable at my lift height without taking out too much. It's more tire than the 38.5s, but still great for a 5.13 - 5.38 range.

The 42s would require a lot of trimming and I'm stuck with 5.38s still being geared a little higher than I'd like.

I'll probably end up sticking with the 38.5s. Oh well.

>>16824452
With the diesel wouldn't the 5.13/5.38s with the 42s work out great? I thought they liked lower cruising rpm on the highway? I had the 5.7 TBI motor.

>>16824452
4lo.com has a gear calculator, punch in the tire height, and all the other info and it'll tell you the true MPH or RPM at a certain speed. Really nice for doing quick figuring of gears and tires.

>>16824459
The 6.5 not as much as most diesels. The 5.38 would probably be fine but I'd prefer the extra power over 1-2 mpg on the highway.

>>16824472
I prefer the Grimmjeeper calculator.

http://grimmjeeper.com/gears.html

>>16824494
Well lets put it this way, with the 37" military MTRs, 5.13s in the 1 ton axles, and 5.7 TBI I got 14.5 MPG on a 150 mile trip to Altoona. With the 41.5" PitBull rockers, 5.13s and the 5.7 I got 12.5 MPG on the same 150 mile route. Most of that was on the PA turnpike.

>>16824824
That's all GPS verified mileage, not the odometer miles, which were off with the taller tires and lower gears. Also filled up the suburban at the same gas station, Sheetz, in both York before I left and Altoona when I arrived.

>>16824422
Oh, I see.
Sorry the punchline took so long, had to go back to work.

>>16823863
>suburban wins
GM fags are this delusional

>>16824824
>better mileage than fzj80 on smaller tires
You're full of shit

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Alright /org/, do you think I should get 31s on my truck? I'm running 30s right now (stock size) and I think 31 is the biggest I can do before I'd have to do some serious grinding and folding away of some pinch welds and plastic bits

I'll probably go with Cooper ATPs since they're aggressive enough for sand but still Highway-friendly. If anyone has any suggestions let me know, though:

tirereviewsandratings.com/cooper-discoverer-atp-tire-review-rating/

>>16824911
Stay btfo cuckrunner

>>16824943
Proper gearing for the tire size makes a huge difference in mileage. I don't need you to believe me, but those are the facts. I gain nothing lying on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

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>>16824305
Until you have to make a sharp offset turn on the trail. That wheel base ain't going to help ya none boy.

Toyota fags assblasted this beast >>16824386
is better on gas than their stock Land Cruiser

>>16824943
Also remember that was all highway driving, 150 miles in one shot, no stops. I was more surprises then you when I filled the tank, I tried to add more gas because I didn't believe it shit off at 11ish gallons.

>>16825031
Call me back when your suburban reaches half a million miles on its original engine and transmission

>>16825024
How many times have you taken your 4Runner down a trail only to come across a corner that's too sharp for it, and turn around to go home thinking "Damn I should have bought a Samurai"

>>16825040
Fullsize GM trucks are among the most common light duty vehicles to make it past 1 million miles.

The 4L60s are aren't likely to make it to 500k but a 4L80 will.

>>16825024
Tbh it's not like that gen 4runner is much smaller

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>>16825049
Plenty, enough for me to wish that I should get some rock sliders, I don't back down, mostly because I can't turn around, and it shows in the body damage I get. granted that the suburban is bretty good, especially in the overlanding aspect, but it's not a trumps all truck like you guys are trying to selling it to be.

>>16824424
>roburrito slap
are you in 717?

>>16825101
So you just deal with the little bit of body damage and get through it? Same concept in a Suburban.

It doesn't Trump all in that it's better than everything at everything. Your 4Runner being longer than a sammy doesn't mean that the sammy is better because it can do trails you can't, it just means you have to take a little more caution in a few spots to minimize body damage.

For any ONE thing you want to do, you can find a vehicle that does it better than a Suburban. But most people don't have the money or storage for fifteen vehicles so they want one that will do all of it well. The Suburban's ability to do so many things well is what makes it good. The price point is what makes it great.

>>16825101
Nice Xterra

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>>16825158
I've never needed a vehicle as large as a suburban, the extra hugeness would just be wasted on me.

>>16825158
Very true and good points, but I still got to refute and say that the suburban it's too long which limits what trails you can go on, if I had to go chevy, a k5 blazer would be on top of my list, same as a suburban, but shorter.

>>16825249
You don't need to go camping either, but there you are.

>>16825146
Yes sir, reppin 717, York...

>>16823863
Has anyone here used a snatchblock or two to do a full 180 degree turn on a trail?

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>mfw all this regear talk again
>mfw ill be breaking in my honeypig with fresh yukon 4.88s in just a few short days

>>16825559
why would you want to do this
im sure its possible but there is quite a lot that could go wrong...

>>16825404
But he does, and doesn't require a Suburban to do so.

>>16825908
You don't need to be such a whiny bitch, but here you are. See the OP.
>>16823863
>no whining.

>>16826005
>You don't need to be such a whiny bitch, but here you are.
lol you use this response to everyone you disagree with. not everyone who has a counterpoint is whining.

>>16826016
>you use this response to everyone you disagree with
No, just you. Point me to the last time I used this response, you whiny bitch.

>>16826042
im not that same guy but either youve used it in at least one other thread or it was someone else saying the exact same retarded phrase. either way its not very original.

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>>16826042
>N-nobody needs a w-whiny bitch either!

>>16826005
>>16826042
Gold tacoma guy pls go. You've already been BTFO twice now...stop embarrassing yourself.

>>16826005
>You don't need to be such a whiny bitch
Sorry m8, my kettle isn't black.

>>16824978
Trade the truck for a proper 4x4, like a jeep.

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>>16826193
shut up blue land cruiser guy
it's monday - shouldn't be drunk by now? :^)

>>16826459
Nah

What'd ya think of the tires, friend?

>>16826723
Coopers are great tires. And if you buy 31s chances are they'll actually be closer to 30s on the truck. If you want 31s, get 32s.

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>>16824978
Idk I'm happy with my firestone destination A/Ts. They've worked well in snow, and rocks, not sure about deep sand though.

>>16826594
taylor pls
>implying im sober

>>16826764
Well I never see snow, but soft sand and rocks are mostly what I do. I like the Coopers because they have a good sidewall shoulder that digs when I air down

>>16826748
I was kinda thinking that too desu. If I go to the trouble of fitting 31s I might as well do it all the way and go 32, anyways

>>16826797
I've been eyeing this for a while and it's been a month now. High pricing for a vehicle with 250k on it but a rebuild at the 300k mark should keep it going.
>inb4 UZ swap it for muh delicious torque
>V8 sounds in a land cruiser

What's a fair price for this thing considering he hasn't moved it for a month? 3 inch lift with 33 inch KO2s and lockers in her is worth at least $3000 in aftermarket parts. I would've done that myself too anyway...

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/cambridge/1997-lexus-lx450-land-cruiser/1238906962?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

>>16826863
Seems like a lot. But maybe I just don't know as much. I'd pay 5k but would be willing to do 6 if everything was perfect

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>>16826863
honestly his price isnt that far off considering the current market if 'minimal rust' is actually accurate.
if hg has been done i'd have no problem giving him his asking price (probably would offer $7-7.5k) if not id use that as a bargaining tool and open with $4.5-5k since that is a complicated service.

250k sounds like high mileage but i wouldnt blink about purchasing an 80 with more than that assuming it has been taken care of.

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>>16826883
ur perfect

I'm more just really digging the body considering Onterrible. There's no quarter rust and I'm almost certain the undercarriage is better than most vehicles. Salt here rips your dick off so you gotta clean it at least once a week which is no doubt what this guy did if he drove it. Which engine do you have in yours and what's the story with the lockers / regearing?

desu, I'm just salty that guy 16 hours north of me sold his '91 for $2500 before I could book time off to overland up there. It had like a $1000 ARB bumper on it, too. Fuck.

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>>16826764
I had Destination A/Ts before I got the goodyear wrangler authority A/Ts from walmart, and I didn't like the traction in the wet, especially compared to my goodyears. It was a good quiet tire though, it did ok offroad but with my open diff i found myself spinning on gravel often. The goodyears were about $20 more per tire, but I did go from a 245/70 to a 265/75 so that may have been a lot of the cost. Overall I love my goodyears, great traction on everything I've driven on so far, including red clay, snow and ice. Road noise is quieter than I expected for the tread depth, which is like 21/32" iirc. They clean mud out quickly too, which is nice.

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fucking hell this thread is a shit show
the fuck happened to niceposting
why is everyone so combative
who gives a shit what some else drives

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>>16826863
Hnnng, I like my ranger but I really want an 80 series. My parents used to have one and it was cool, one of my buddies has one too and it's pretty awesome. Pic related.
>>16826918
Really? In the rain mine have been great, considering the wet winter we got this year.

>>16825425
bless, lanc here

do you know mc?

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>>16826946
Amen brother.

>>16826951
I also added 300 pounds to the bed at the same time as I got the tires so that may influence it. I'm not dogging on the Firestone tires, they served me well but I've really come to like the Goodyear tires

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>>16826951
Taynger I use for work and am looking for an FJ80 or 60 for overlanding. Bae wanted to rent a vehicle to overland up north and it'd cost like $2000 for a 5 day Rubicon build rental. Might as well just use that money to buy a capable LC instead, desu. So my answer: get both (;

Unfortunatley, I wouldn't be able to get an older TJ if that's the case.

>>16826903
>those rear back seat windows
>dat flex
>the little chemtrails in the distance off the rising mountain
hnnng

Is that yours? How e z are engine rebuilds off the old FZ engines? Looks like there's around a $1000 more price difference between the lexus LX/GXs and the Land cruisers ):

>>16827012
I hear the 60s have major rust issues so I'd probably pass on those if they use salt where you live. Even here by the beach they get rusted out by the salt spray from the ocean.

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>>16826905
fuck it im putting a name on for right now since its too tough to keep track of everyone in these specific side convos
fyi the guy you replied to wasnt me lol i said this>>16826903
but that said, i agree. if the body/frame are in as good of shape as he says that alone is worth its weight in gold.

mine has the 4.5 1fz-fe in it. same one all 93-97s have. as for my gear/locker problems, i had a driveline whine that i couldnt diagnose so when i took it in, he found pic related. since i needed a new gear anyway i decided to completely regear the truck and put a spartan autolocker in the rear.

>$1000 arb bumper
lol get ready for it. lc parts are so fucking expensive its ridiculous.
>mfw $900 sliders
>mfw $3,000 rear bumpers
>mfw $1,000-$1500 front bumpers
>mfw $1,200 roof racks
to do anything its like $1k minimum

>>16827001
that's a cool frog dude

>>16827040
Nigga please, I think you're doing it wrong. My friend had some dude out in the desert make his sliders for 400 and his front winch bumper for 500.

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>>16827012
lol no not my truck. i have the blue one :-)
the 1FZ is fairly easy to rebuild as far as rebuilds go. theres a shit ton of space in the engine bay...relatively small engine in a big truck.
also fyi the lx450 (lexus 80 series) and regular toyota land cruiser 80 series are exactly identical except for side body cladding, a little bit of additional interior sound deadening, slightly different wheels on the lx. everything else is the exact same with the same parts.
down here the toyota 80 series usually goes for slightly more which is kind of weird im guessing bc hipsters love the 'heritage' but idk

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>>16827083
info on the light bar replacement in your license plate holder?
how many candlepowers?

>>16827080
im talking about from all the mainline manufacturers, not custom. besides theres no way your friend had a custom front bumper made unless it was a tube bumper and personally i do not like those at all.

>>16827100
It was a tube bumper, look at >>16826951

>>16826946
Its all fun and games until one person starts saying "my truck is (best/fastes/cheapest) and you're wrong" posting.

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>>16827105
ah ok yeah didnt realize that was his truck
personally not a fan of tube bumpers, his actual looks pretty decent though all things considered.

>>16827096
r u trolling me
its working


i need some new pics

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>>16826951
Are you the loser with the fat gf, or is that thing your buddy's too?

>>16827137
No its my fat buddy :(

>>16827143
But who was phone?

>>16827142
And?

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>>16827137
anon, the niceposting, pls

>>16827142
mirin unstoppable cumminsroller

>>16827161
I follow the global rules, not the reddit safespace crybabby rules.

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>>16827037
Dude salt spray is horrible for your vehicle due to your mentioned salt but also due to the huge humidity and warm climate. Acts as a really large catalyst for rust.
60s would have rust issue but I where I'm looking, it could be north enough that it won't matter too much (like the one in Manitoba I found for $2500). And I'm willing to head up to Nunavut to fetch a good quality FJ80, 60, or 40.

>>16827040
>>16827083
Holy shit dude how the fuck did that happen. Chinese steel? ;^(

Anyway, I am familiar with some of the engine bay sizes and wouldn't mind trying to shove turbo UZ or so in it (especially considering mileage). If anything, getting V8 sounds in it would be worth its price already and those extra ft lb of torque would be really helpful in terms of towing random shit.

Also yeah - do you have a dedicated fab for this yet? There's no reason your rear and front bumper should cost a total of $5000. I should've just drove that $2500 land cruiser to Virginia and parted it out to you for $6000 instead.

Also that's good information. Lexus isn't worth that much over the LCs if you can help it, eh? I mean, if you want, literally just toss a Tay Yoda badge on it or something.

...speaking of which, my mazda badge for Taynger came in the mail today so I'm gonna put that on the front grill soon.

>>16827125
>tfw
>i get new piccs every week when i offroad for work
:^)

[spoiler]Oh! My Kar98 came in today so I'll be able to use that on your LC. Exciting.[/spoiler]

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>>16827173
Bruh. We're not going to force rules on you. But just have some common courtesy.

[spoiler]especially if this is gold tacofag :^)[/spoiler]

>>16827148
>phone
Nikon DSLR nigga

>>16827158
And eat dick. Studded mud terrains in the middle of august.

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>>16827137
>>16827143
>>16827194
T H I C C

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>>16827001
wicked dragon mang

>>16827117
don't fall for the bait sir
they just want to talk shit

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>>16827224
HAND HOCH

>>16827180
lol it was oem toyota steel unfortunately.
im thinking some debri got inside and tore it up. pic related are the shards that came out.

1uz swap is actually fairly common with 80s. if i was going to do one that would be at the top of the list. its (relatively) easy as well but not super cheap unfortunately if you do it right.

and in all fairness for those armor prices they were on the higher end. realistically youre looking at $1k front bumper and $2.5k rear bumper - you could spend all of $5k though if you wanted. as for fabbing, you are looking at similar (usually more) unless you go full tube which im not willing to do.

but yeah, theyre exactly identical, if you had two of them sitting in front of me in the same condition i would just buy the cheaper one.
once you get to the 100 series though there are some actual differences but that is a whole other ball game.

and i am so jelly you get to off road for your job.
>tfw salesman deskjockey

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>>16827241
that pigeons cool dood
put down the pistol

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>>16827247
oops forgot pic

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>>16827252
OK we make peace friendo

>>16827180
>mazda badge
For what purpose

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>>16827247
100 series look /comfy/

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>>16827265
they call me...........

>>16827190
>you're not allowed to make a joke
Please, that's the most safespaciest bullshit ever. Stop being offended by everything and lighten up.
>>16827192
But who was Nikon
>>16827194
Seems like a terrible idea, kys.
>>16827221
Please keep cutting back on the Taylor shit. It's especially awful because my daughter Taylor died, she was named after Swift.

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>>16827265
thats a nice meme youve got there

>>16827289
they are quite comfy desu

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>>16827289
yeah they do
>tfw every god damned vehicle has too much shit

i don't want more shit
i want less shit
why god why

>>16827298
>fuck your safe space
>but give me a safe space
I'm calling bullshit on that weirdly specific daughter thing

>>16827247
Yeah looking into the modern GXs and how they could be worth it. They're still the most reliable and simple "luxury" vehicles on the market even past 2012 and onwards into current year. I think they run on modern UZs, too. Where would you start looking for a UZ? I'd be worried about getting those in depending on how hard they drove them into the ground, too.

Fab pricing just has standard bumpers and they drill holes and move mounts around. so normally, my fab charges $800-$1200 for bumpers for no matter what model. Then a bit more if you're looking for stingers or inboard fogs or whatever. Plus it's nice to just have a person to tow a vehicle to in case you get a few rock hits off road and need a pneumatic press one day or another.

>GPS says only a 3 hour drive this time
>takes the backroads and takes 10 hours instead
feels good man. quit deskjocky and become land cruiser jockey.

Anyway, I think I'm going to go ask him if that LX is still around.

>>16827298
Fuck. That's hard shit.
But yeah, my swiftposting way too much IRL is starting to negatively affect my sanity now. What used to be a nice, comfy meme has really mutated into something awful. Sorry...

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>>16827360
bait dood

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>>16827361
i love gx's. they are gaining traction as of late, more aftermarket support too. i think they make a kit now where you can remove and replace the ahc which is really is their only achilles heal (same with the lx470 aka 100 series lexus variant.)

honestly the UZ motors are some of the most bulletproof ever made. really the only thing that sucks is the timing belt needs to be replaced every 90k. outside that they require very little outside of fluids.

i would love to become land cruiser jockey. show me the way

>Anyway, I think I'm going to go ask him if that LX is still around.
D O I T F A G G O T
ask him about the hg and if it is as non rusty as he says you could be pretty set. that thing looks awesome.

>>16827298
I am Nikon
>>16827329
>>16827354
The only thing that keeps me from wanting to buy one is that I was reading about how some dude's brake booster went out and it cost 1000 fucking dollars for a new one.

>>16827405
the fuck's hg and why is it rusty

>>16826980
MC? Not sure what that is...

>>16827407
im sure thats true desu
parts on all land cruisers are expensive as fuck. these are toyota flagship vehicles, mine was nearly 50k in fucking 1995. the new 200s are comparitively adjusted for inflation and cost 90k. as far as i know though brake boosters are not a common problem

>>16827416
head gasket and idk bc its in canada? the seller is saying its not that bad though

>>16827428
Kinda makes me want to keep sitting in my humble little ranger where parts are everywhere and cheap. I'm sure 80 series parts are cheaper though, I'll probably get stuck with an fj80 instead of an fzj80 because for some reason the extra 50 horsepower increase the toyota tax twofold.

>>16827360
Not asking for a safespace, just asking the poster to keep cutting back like he said he was. It's been a couple years, but I only come here when drinking and don't need the reminder.
>>16827361
It happens, and it's okay. But these threads make me happy, and the less linked sadness the better. Speaking of, I've been following for a while, and that guy threatening to kill you and stuff is seriously messed up, or super underage and edgy.

>>16827469
I don't know why but this image disturbs me

>>16827465
Would you be selling your non-Taynger Ranger and getting the LC? Or keep both like I'm hoping to do?

>tfw
>i will never jeep wave
>i will never ride 100 down the freeway with all the doors off in a snowstorm

>>16827269
Because of the B-series meme.

>>16827405
Just sent him the email. 8 grand is a pretty hefty price to pay and I feel like I could wait for a cheaper Land Cruiser to pop up one of these days.

Oh look. I just found two FJ60s.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-autos-camions/ville-de-montreal/1988-toyota-land-cruiser-fourgonnette-fourgon/1246168728?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
Translation: I have two vehicles to sell: 85 land cruiser 2 door manual and diesel and '88 land cruiser diesel four door automatic diesel

>2 door FJ 60 tho
>600km away

>>16827523
Maybe sell it to my sister or something, I don't need two vehicles.

>>16827523
I'd be happy to find something southern east coast is and drive it up to you. I could use a roadtrip and I'm sure they'd have less rust/price

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>>16827559
If you do that, I'll pay for your gas when you get up here.

Then we can spend like 5 days overlanding in East Onterrible.

>>16827551
P-post sister

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmBzt5GT6Xk
a shamefur dispray

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>>16827581
those roads make my pants warm

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>>16827072
>>16827224

Yeah, really cool horned lizard.
Stopped yesterday to help snatch out a long-wheel base that dug himself stuck in this wash.
Was hooking up a strap and almost stepped on the little guy. He hung out and supervised the recovery.

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>>16827619
No roads here, only directions.

>>16827572
>when your car is also an airplane

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>>16827465
80 parts are really not that much cheaper than 100 parts especially bc of scarcity. its not THAT bad but they are still pretty pricey.

>>16827523
didnt you say it has lockers? if you can talk him down to $7k a locked 80 with the mods it already has is worth way more than that.

also that 2 door one is a 70 series, not a 60. hard to tell from the pics but they both look pretty thrashed.

>>16827750
get portal axles

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I bought a rust bucket Scout today

>>16827767
there is actual an 80 sitting on volvo portals for sale right now. too bad the owner is legitimately mentally retarded

>>16827572
RIP not enough downforce

>>16827750
Oh you can crawl with them. Nice. You're doing fine on legit posting despite the druncc'n'ness on a Monday.

I'm just unsure what lockers he had. I emailed him asking for more information and could just toss it at the Fab's - another benefit of having a dedicated shoppe is the storage space for like 3 months when you get project cars.

I think he's waiting on someone with enough know how to deal with it. Depending on the lockers he has, it could be a turn-off to casual campers who are looking to buy land cruisers. Were you looking on getting a set of air lockers or was that someone else?

>>16827767
CUMMINS DIESEL SWAP IT BRO

>>16827792
Nice. Run that into the ground.

Or you could just touch up the surface rust over 4 hours and some willpower with a grinder. How's the undercarriage?

also obligatory:
>NICE RADIALS, FAGGOT

>>16827795
bost CL and drive it up to me
retardation can pay off sometimes.

>>16827792
i love scouts! that looks like quite the project though what are your plans?

>>16827792
Very nice anon. If it runs nice you've got a nice patina'd ride

>>16827806
The undercarriage is aces and it's mechanically solid. I have the orbital sander and white primer on stand by, just waiting for this snow to clear.

>>16827792
>tfw my dads friend was going to give me his scout but a garage fire claimed it and several bikes last winter

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>>16827792
Also ordered these white rally wheels, they should be here this week

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>>16827836
those are a perfect fit to a scout imo

>>16827572
Start searching Craigslist, Id need about a months notice to take off work for an overland adventure but even just driving it up would be fine for me. If the planets align I'd be happy to. I visit org often so just post something.

>>16827807
Nothing major. I'm definitely not going to do a complete resto. Mostly I want to get it decent looking and make it a DD (I only work a few miles from home) and occasionally take it off roading

>>16827836
Gay heavy chinese rims. No hate.

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>>16827806
lol ty. ive only had like 3 drinks so i havent degraded to my usual shitposting yet

80s are heavy as fuck but can make decent crawlers with the right gear.

but yes find out what lockers he had, if they are oem that is awesome but they will probably need work and youre right i do need to find a good fab how do you know who is good?

i was looking at arb air lockers at one point but i dont think i posted about it in these threads iirc

and i cant find the link to the sale it was on mud classifieds and hasnt been bumped in months. btw that is a great place to look for cruiser sales and all around general info. one of the best forums ive ever been on

>>16827860
>U.S. Wheel
>made in china
and theyre steel so of course theyre heavy, but you can bend them without them cracking or shattering

>>16827879
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/White-Steel-Wheel-for-Trailer-Rims_477315507.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.iLikY5&s=p
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/10x4-5-trailer-wheel-8-spoke_60545253642.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.iLikY5
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2016-Best-Quality-White-Eight-Spokes_740334738.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.iLikY5&s=p

>>16827904
U.S. Wheel Establish in 1986 and continues to supply the steel oem and aftermarket wheel industry located in Huntington Beach, California and exclusive manufacturer of the USW Forged wheel line.

>https://www.uswheel.com/collections/truck-4x4/products/white8spoke

what are chinese knockoffs for $100 alex

>>16827932
There's not category on the board for $100, anon. Pick again, please.

>>16827932
good goy

>>16827428
Depends where you buy your stuff from. At least in Australia they're relatively cheap to own, operate and upgrade regardless as to whether they're a flagship vehicle. Bloody expensive new, and Toyota dealership parts and service is exy, but there's plenty of aftermarket support for them, especially when companies like "Terrain Tamer" are developing or rebranding upgraded OEM quality consumables like bearings, CVs, axles, clutches, hubs, prop-shafts, you name it. Might be worth seeing what their shipping to the states is worth.
Things like ARB branded bar work is expensive regardless of the car, but well worth it IMO (they stand up to our endless corrugations like no other).

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>>16827860
Aww, I think they look neat on scouts. Anyways, thanks for the encouraging words lads. I'll report back with any progress

>>16827868
"anon what are you doing in that ditch?"
SHUT UP FAGGOT I NEED TO TAKE PICTURES FOR /ih8mudd/

Here's a question: Land Cruiser or Suburban?

Why don't you have an /ORG/ stickie on your land cruiser?

How often do you go to Red Lobster and order only their sides and fill up on their biscuits because you're feeling cheap and fancy?

I found who was good when the Fab I finally went to wasn't 1. a fucking "family friend" who didn't know what a fucking slave cylinder was 2. had a huge selection of offroad vehicles on this lot (3 of which are his) and 3. is almost important to schedule a time in and a lot of work needs to be scheduled in a week advanced. Your a salesman - you should know what to look for in terms of vehicle men. Whenever I'm in there for more than 30 minutes, there are always people who come in and are like "hey fab, have you found a cheap YJ yet for my son" or "DUDE sup! how was the trek last weekend?". I found them through both the local ontario trail sponsors and the offroad stores when I went in there and refused to be price gauged for just wanting to buy shackles.

What the fucc is mud classifieds? Also where is it? Drive it up with this guy >>16827855 and that way he'll have a ride home, too. I

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>>16828011
>glorious yota or untermensch gm
WEW

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>>16828011
>comparing the land cruiser with gm trash
disgusting

>>16827967
lol we actually have a bit of terrain tamer finally making its way over here its glorious.
if you want to maintain your vehicle with all oem parts though (which you should) in america its pretty pricey. not out of control or anything but if you compare it to a ranger its night and day.
agree with you on the arb bumpers though well worth the cost.

>>16828011
>Here's a question: Land Cruiser or Suburban?
well obviously i have my bias but the cruiser is better in nearly every single way except cost. they are more expensive to maintain and parts cost more. if you can swallow that though they are much more robust vehicles that have stood the test of time in the australian and african outback for decades and decades.
there is a reason that the overwhelming majority of expedition vehicles in the african and australian outbacks are mostly japanese and mostly land cruiser.

as for the stickies youre right i need to ge tmy shit together. i have one on my cooler but i need to put one on the rig.

as for red lobster i only go when they do that bottomless shrimp thing. cant beat it.

thats great advice on the fab too, i know all these backwoods guys that clearly have no idea what the fuck they are doing. i know it would be cheap so its tempting but i just cant do it.

here is the link to the 80 series classifieds on mud: https://forum.ih8mud.com/forums/fj80-fzj80-lx450-hdj81.325/

and if you really want to go down the rabbit hole here is the tech section: https://forum.ih8mud.com/forums/80-series-tech.9/

ih8mud is the land cruiser forums. its incredibly honestly.

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>>16828102
i concur my dudes
also that is a sick bobby reaction face

>mfw /org/ truly has classic maymays already

>>16828150
>four shocks
Is that stock?

are shocks better in general than leafs?

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>>16828085
>implying suburbans can't flex...

>>16828196
stupid nigger, get out

>>16828198
Faggots flexing real good on >35" tires, not really impressive. Slap some real man tires on there 40"+ tires on them, then watch the little twig axles explode...

>>16828212
it's a genuine question. I don't know anything about off roading

>>16828196
If you're asking "Are coils better than leafs?" then yes, yes they are.

>>16828224
oh okay. also are coils always independent suspension? or always dependent? or can it be either

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>>16828224
>>16828196
Budget and simplicity come with leafs though

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>>16828239
this is bait

>>16828200
Now that's real fucking barn, lol

>>16828218
>triggered that easily
Nobody needs 35+ tires to get oudoors to have a good time. Crawling rocks is for wranglers anyway.

>>16828250
I'm guessing it can be both..?

>>16828240
Leafs, setup right, can be better then coils, plus cost less. But a well setup coil over vs well setup leafs is no comparison. Unfortunately it isn't very cost effective to change from leafs to coilovers since linking a rig is time consuming and expensive.

>>16828218
>twig axles
The 80 series has a full floating rear end, and look at how beefy the axle housing is. Fuck off.

>>16828261
Yes, yes it can.

>>16828253
If your little rigs with small tires are only for having a good time and not rock crawling "like a wrangler" then why brag about your "flex"?

>>16828278
why do people say independent suspension is bad for off roading?

>>16828266
Honestly though, for a pure crawler trail rig going with air shocks rather than coil over's/coils is soooooo much cheaper. As long as you aren't hauling ass they will stay reliable.

>>16828300
less suspension articulation

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>>16828300

>>16828271
Compare the 80 rear to a 14 bolt FF axle, your shit is twig like. GM 14 bolt FF rear axles can handle 44" tires stock. Try to do that with a Toy rear. I beat on my suburban with 42s, never broke a rear shaft, even with a detroit locker and lots of abuse. Over 37" tall tires will snap any Toyota axle that isn't fully built up your shit ain't 1 ton, it's half ton at best... LOL

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really makes u think

Do you guys think it would be awesome when electric motors will come to offroad?
Just imagine no shafts, gearboxes axles and shit.

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>>16828320
You sound really insecure.
That's OK though. We will still stop and help you out when you get stuck.

>>16828340
ehem, I present to you, you FUTURE of offroading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOxRJHHQjec

>>16828320
Hey, maybe they don't need 40+ inch tires as much as you do because their vehicle has been designed to have approach, departure and breakover angles that aren't complete garbage. It's almost like a vehicle that has actually been designed from the ground up to be good off road is better off road than some pleb GM product that's made to haul kitty litter.

>>16828355
Nah, i meant where motor will be placed on axle or even wheel itself.

>>16828380
yeah, but then it's not an experience and when things like that come out, there will be no need for lockers, or gas, or skill. traction control will let anything go up a hill. But yeah that would be fun haha

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my 33s are old and dry-rotting. i want to go 35s anyways.

axle swap absolutely necessary? beef up stock axles? it's a 2001 with a 8.25 rear

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>>16828410
Only funny thing that bothers me is battery weight and how high above ground it will be.

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>>16828475
I agree

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>>16828461
Don't do it, and even with 33's you should have 30 spline chromoly axle shafts and upgraded drive shafts. Dana 30/35's are reallly weak, and even with said upgrades 35's are still sketch, but 33's are chillin. But in theory, if you don't start bouncing you could get away with it.

>>16828131
Don't fret mate, the Terrain Tamer stuff is at least as good as the genuine Toyota stuff. No idea what it retails over there for though...

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>>16828489

>Dana 30/35's are reallly weak, and even with said upgrades 35's are still sketch

i have an 8.25

>>16828523
Why are dana 30 so notorious? I even read they can't hold 31 wheels well. What is the weak link in them?

>>16828320
>compare it to a 1 ton drivetrain
No shit you fucking genius.
Short of an HD pickup however, the 9.5" crown 1 1/3" floating axle is more than adequate for turning serious rubber on an SUV that tares at a little over 2 tonne. A Burb on the other hand that requires near 40" rubber to gain the clearance of a Cruiser with 35" tires requires every bit of that 14 bolt rear end when it's got 3 tonnes of resistance against it.
>itt, we learn the definition of relativity

>>16828363
Regardless of angles and HURR DURR OFF ROAD ENGINURED, big tires make for small obstacles, and small obstacles are easy. Also flotation. Displace enough water with your tires and you can literally float across water crossings.

>>16828011
>Here's a question: Land Cruiser or Suburban?
Depends on budget, your willingness to keep dumping money into repairs instead of upgrades, and what you want to do with the vehicle. The Suburban will tow more, has more space to sleep in, is cheaper, easier to find parts for, and requires less maintenance. The Land Cruiser is slightly more capable.

If I'm renting one to wheel with for a week? Land Cruiser, all the way.
If I'm owning one for the rest of my life? Suburban, all the way.

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>>16828548
Oh, guess I should read your shit. Yeah sounds fine then haha. just watch the front end though.

>>16828558
31's are fine, probably just guys hammering it, and Even I hammer it and haven't had a break. They just are small and weak. That's it.

>>16828363
I think you don't understand offroading and to crawling. No matter how good your approach or departure angle is, like a TJ has, you'll need bigger tires and more ground clearance the more hardcore you go. There is a reason that no matter the brand of vehicle they all eventually end up with 1 ton axles and 40+" tires. Also most short wheelbase rigs stretch their rigs out to make them work better with the bigger tires and also make them more stable going up and down steep obstacles.

I'm not saying GM suburbans are the best at hardcore 4 wheeling, but they can hold their own against Toyotas and jeeps. Also you have to build around your rigs weaknesses. I guarantee I had less money in 1 ton axles, flexible leaf suspension, large tires and the cost of my suburban, then you paid for the "fancy" land cruiser.

Just stating the facts, 1 ton GM axles are superior in stock and near stock trim to all toyota axles when it comes to ultimate strength, which is what you need when running the large tires needed for the red and black trails. Go on pirate 4x4 forum and read all the builds from the jeep, dodge, ford and Chevy sections and you'll see that 90% of the hardcore builds use the Dana 60 front and 14 bolt rear axle. I build my shit to be indestructible so I can wheel it hard on hard trails that make most people doubt that it's even possible to traverse with a 4 wheel vehicle. I don't build it to crawl around a mall parking lot like all the Toyotas you see with ARB bumpers and polished with fancy LED light bars.

Buy and build whatever you like, but you can never compare a mall crawler to my purpose built 4wd machine. Plus the look on jeepers faces when you crawl up a trail, in a fuckhuge suburban, that they wouldn't even attempt if you paid them, is priceless.

>>16828567
No matter the vehicle a 35" tire will never crawl up and over the same rock as well as a 40" tire. I don't care how light or special your rig may be...

>>16828567
"but it isn't fair to compare two different axles..."

Cry some more, maybe you can think up some more exuses for why your axles aren't up to snuff to cheap GM axles that can be easily bolted under 73-87 GM trucks and 73-91 GM suburbans and K5s.

Life isn't always fair...

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>>16827932
kek
>Disclaimer: There are times when we will substitute an "import" wheel for a wheel made in our factory if we are short on the components needed. This is a rare occasion, not standard practice and in no way meant to deceive.

>>16828567
Yet somehow with all that weight of the suburban to push around the 14 bolt and Dana 60 didn't break even with 42" tires that weighed 175lbs a piece with the steel double beadlock wheels... Huh

>>16828567
>the 9.5" crown 1 1/3" floating axle is more than adequate
Just like a Suburban is more than adequate for the sort of mild trails you'd take your DD down.
Are you the same guy that used to go on about how the Toyota 9.5 "had a bigger ring gear than most 1 tons" when in fact it's the same as the smallest 3/4 ton and smaller than any 1 ton?

>Burb on the other hand that requires near 40" rubber
Just because he has 40s doesn't mean that 40s are needed to get to the same level as 35s on a Cruiser. Where are you pulling these arbitrary numbers from anyway?

>to gain the clearance of a Cruiser with 35" tires
Ground clearance depends on tire size. Anything you lose in axle to ground clearance with a bigger diff is gained in strength. If you're talking about any other clearance, then it's independent of tire size so bringing up tire diameters doesn't mean anything anyway. So why are you bringing it up?

>got 3 tonnes of resistance against it.
>tonnes
What the fuck is a tonne? We deal with tons here.
Suburbans are around 5000lbs. A 3/4 ton diesel 4x4 is 5330.

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>>16828647
>All the weight of a Suburban and 37" tires with rubber runflats on military double beadlock wheels and a 9.5" rear axle held up just fine

Feels good man. Upgraded to a disk brake full float 10.5" when I regeared anyway. Pulled the 9.5 apart last week and it looked like new even at 190k miles.

>>16828320
>Over 37" tall tires will snap any Toyota axle that isn't fully built up
I do not believe this is true

>>16828687
Because it's not entirely true. If all you do is baby it on your drive to starbucks every morning then the axles will hold up fine.

>>16828606
If we don't take weight into account, you're absolutely correct. A larger tire will make a given obstacle smaller in comparison to a smaller tire.
But in that light we also have to take the extra resistance that tire has working against it lifting that weight up the same obstacle, which in turn renders the 2.5" difference in radius (ie; the point at where a tire either rolls over or rolls up) negligible. Again, relativity.

>>16828606
>>16828629
>>16828647
>>16828654
As much as I lament the GM fangirl meme, I'm starting to see why it gets so much momentum.

>>16828713
That's not how it works. You're thinking in terms of power:weight and attempting to apply it to flotation:weight, neither of which directly relate to tire diameter:vehicle weight, likely because it's impossible to relate the two universally.

Suppose you lack the forward traction to push the front tire into an obstacle to get over it. Regardless of weight, if the radius of the tire is larger than the height of the obstacle, you can get over it. If the radius of the tire is smaller than the obstacle, you can not.

You also failed to take into account that weight increases traction.

I just wish Dodge would have came out with a Suburban/Excursion style SUV with the cummins in it during the 80s. Now i dont think we will ever see it and if they tried they would probably just fuck it up now.
Still waiting on the diesel wrangler.

Alright guys, YJ guy here. Just found the best land cruiser in SoCal. All it needs is a head gasket and a motor mount. That or to be put down and donate it's heart to a better cause.

>>16828854
https://palmsprings.craigslist.org/cto/6042997831.html

fuck, link

>>16828770
>Regardless of weight, if the radius of the tire is larger than the height of the obstacle, you can get over it. If the radius of the tire is smaller than the obstacle, you can not.
You're either illiterate or intentionally being obtuse, as that's exact let what I pointed out in the very post you replied to. Given your ability to construct a coherent post, I'll presume it's the latter.
>"the point at where a tire either rolls over or rolls up"
I accept that, but you also have to accept that the requirement for that "arbitrary" 2.5" difference in radius to climb a given obstacle as opposed to roll over it becomes negligible when taking into consideration the substantially lighter weight that's required for it to drive "up".
>You also failed to take into account that weight increases traction
I did, but then that is completely arbitrary when you're not taking into account that more traction is in turn required to shift a greater mass anyway, and becomes increasingly irrelevant the greater angle of climb.

>>16828862
>exact let
exactly*

>>16828654
Fuck it, while I'm here,
>arbitrary
That's comparing outright axle strength between two irrelevant size vehicles.
>his 14 bolt is tiny compared to a Dana 50-170

>>16828861
Condition "Good"

Fucking toyota fags.

>>16828862
>as that's exact let what I pointed out in the very post you replied to.
Except you were implying that weight mattered in that situation when it doesn't. The weight is negated by the traction it provides with more pressure. The larger tire acts an unrelated advantage. The little bit of extra weight does not "cancel it out" like you imply.

>becomes negligible when taking into consideration the substantially lighter weight that's required for it to drive "up".
The weight difference makes itself negligible with the extra traction it provides. It is entirely unrelated to the size of the obstacle or tire, which are the only things that matter at this point. The larger tire means that the vehicle can move forward, where as the vehicle with the smaller tire must first travel vertically before it can start to move forward. With limited rear traction to push the front tire into the obstacle, the front of the tire can not pickup the front of the truck no matter how light it is.

>shift a greater mass anyway
With limited traction, you can only shift the mass forward. The small tire vehicle due to needing the mass shifted directly up before it can move forward is now stuck, where as the large tire vehicle can pull itself up with forward movement.

Essentially, the large tire vehicle has to climb a step, while the small tire vehicle is hitting what can be considered a wall as far as it's concerned, since it can not reach the top. Regardless of weight, a tire can climb a step much easier than a wall.

What matters here is tire diameter, not vehicle weight. The two are NOT directly related as you seem to think.

>>16828731
>As much as I lament the GM fangirl meme, I'm starting to see why it gets so much momentum.
Not even a GM fangirl. If I were to buy an early 90s econobox I'd avoid GM like the plague. The GMT platforms are fantastic though.

>>16828898
>That's comparing outright axle strength between two irrelevant size vehicles.
98 Land Cruiser and 98 Suburban are within 100 lbs of each other.

>his 14 bolt is tiny compared to a Dana 50-170
14 bolt is huge compared to a Dana 50. 10.5" vs 9"
Ring gear is the same size as a Dana 70 but the 14 bolt is a much better design more comparable to the Dana 80 in strength.

>>16828948
>Except you were implying that weight mattered in that situation when it doesn't. The weight is negated by the traction it provides with more pressure. The larger tire acts an unrelated advantage. The little bit of extra weight does not "cancel it out" like you imply.
Were you dropped on your head as an infant?
>The weight difference makes itself negligible with the extra traction it provides.
Correct, it's completely relative. "more weight provides more traction" which is required for more weight.
>The larger tire means that the vehicle can move forward, where as the vehicle with the smaller tire must first travel vertically before it can start to move forward.
You're sounding like a broken record, but we have both agreed on this.
>With limited rear traction to push the front tire into the obstacle, the front of the tire can not pickup the front of the truck no matter how light it is.
The downward weight on the (let's say front tire) is absolutely critical when relying on that tire's tractive ability to climb vertically (in conjunction with the opposite end holding said tire against that vertical climb). The weight over said opposite end and the traction it applies is relative.
>Essentially, the large tire vehicle has to climb a step, while the small tire vehicle is hitting what can be considered a wall as far as it's concerned, since it can not reach the top. Regardless of weight, a tire can climb a step much easier than a wall
Banging the same drum, but I'm not disagreeing with this statement.

>>16828567
>2 tonne land cruiser
>3 tonne suburban

1998 Land Cruiser Curb Weight - 5225 lbs
1998 Suburban Curb Weight - 5297 lbs

>>16828979
Don't get me wrong, the square body GMs are my choice of fullsize, as I feel they represent best value for money, and as the Suburban Defence Alliance is quick to point out their modularity is fantastic and well documented. But to imply they're the be-all end-all because there's a heavier duty version with a drivetrain that's bigger than a Samurai is stupid.

>>16829032
>But to imply they're the be-all end-all because there's a heavier duty version with a drivetrain that's bigger than a Samurai is stupid.
As is claiming the Toyota is better with it's smaller axles because it's lighter and doesn't need strong axles when there's only a 72lb difference in weight between the two vehicles.

>>16829007
You mean like the negligible weight difference between a suburban and an 80 or 100 series land cruiser?

>>16829057
>As is claiming the Toyota is better
Nobody has said that. The only thing I've claimed is relativity. The Toyota axles are anything but "twiggy".
>>16829110
>You mean like the negligible weight difference between a suburban and an 80 or 100 series land cruiser?
Stock for stock between the heaviest 100 series Cruiser and a half tonne Burban? Sure... But we're talking about a 1 ton driven Burb with a reported 175lb of rotating weight at each corner.

>>16829147
>heaviest 100 series
>1/2 ton burban
The 1998 90 series is only 72 lbs lighter than a 98 1/2 ton diesel Suburban, which has the same front diff and trans as the 1 ton suburban and same t case and 9.5" rear axle as the 3/4 ton.

>The facts are backfiring on Toyota fags with their memes about size and weight
The Suburban is only 0.3" wider too.

>itt we discover how insecure suburban fags are
The engineering behind the land cruiser is superior in in every way to the suburban. Everything is overbuilt to last through 3rd world conditions. The transmission in the 80 is literally a bus transmission. The engine has oil squirters in the cylinders for better lubrication. Your suburban is inferior in nearly every respect. I know it hurts, but you gotta get over it.
>but muh 14 bolt
That doesn't come stock in the suburban. I could put a 14 bolt on a land cruiser and it would be just as stock.

oh god what just happened

i'm so sorry for asking the LC or burb question. It was supposed to be in jest but obviously a firestorm came out of it...

>>16828131
fuck red lobster. overpriced food that i can make at home for $8 with live lobsters bought at the weird chinese supermarkets

Fabs are just people you should have good relationships with. Like your butcher, your barber, and other people who provide you the services that are much more learned than you ever will be.

ah, good to know. didn't know h8mud had sales. i figure they'd be filled with "i know what i got" kinda people, though. I'd rather buy from these weird normies who don't really offroad, desu

>inb4 i start joining the mustard race
>inb4 i get into arguments with people about shit
pls no bully

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>the last 30-40 comments
I am so, so, so sorry guys.

>>16829246
>The engineering behind the land cruiser is superior in in every way to the suburban.
This is literally THE Toyota meme.

>The transmission in the 80 is literally a bus transmission.
The 4L80e in the Suburban was used in buses as well.

>That doesn't come stock in the suburban.
nigga what
The 9.5 14 bolt comes stock in F44 equipped 5.7l 1500s, all 6.5l 1500s, and all 5.7l 2500s. The 10.5 14 bolt comes stock in all 7.4 and 6.5 2500s.

>>16829295
Cuckyota boys btfo

>>16829295
It's a true meme. Where are all the gem trucks in Africa and Australia? They aren't there because they're not up to the task. It's not a meme, Toyotas are simply built better.

>>16828854
>I-4

>>16829316
It's not a meme*
Where are all the gm trucks*

>>16828842
>diesel wrangler
how about the G-Wagon or FJ-40?

>>16829303
You can't reply to your own post

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>>16829316
>in Africa
They weren't marketed in Africa. Africans aren't exactly known for making the best decisions or being the most intelligent.

>and Australia?
You ever talked to someone in Australia? Aussies love their Holden Suburbans. They rarely come up for sale any more because no one wants to get rid of them.

Try doing just a little bit of research before you go basing your entire argument on assumption.

>>16829341
Jokes on you I just dropped in to make fun of people then leave.

>>16829370
Lol I can't even be mad, desu.

>>16829357
>Africans aren't exactly known for making the best decisions or being the most intelligent.
holy shit lmao

that's savage on behalf of the savages
10/10

>>16828300
it's not bad if you're just going using it as an outdoors utility vehicle. It's only people who use them as serious trail crawlers that want to shit on independent suspension.

personally, I use my truck for hunting/camping/fishing trips and anything else I might want to do outdoors. I don't like to go on trails. It honestly sounds like a dumb idea to me.

>>16829357
Come back when the suburban is the workhorse of the outback and the third world

>>16829393
>third world

>this guy's living in a mudhut covered in flies while he fucks a goat. I bet he knows more about reliable trucks driving to the village three times a year at 15mph than the guys that put a million or more miles on trucks pulling trailers at 80+mph all day every day.

Toyota fangirl logic at it's finest. It doesn't matter how good it is, if third world shitholes don't use it I wont either.

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I got my shitty pc running again
had to format everything
please join me in feels of losing all my memes again

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>>16829430
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAND CRUISERS OR KEITHURBANS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16829430
>not running 2 hard drives in raid 0
>not having a third hard drive running raid 1 off the first 2

c'mon now

>>16829444
There's hidden meaning there you have not yet found.

>>16829430
>>16829450
>not having a 4th hard drive running raid 1 off of the original raid 1 hard drive

pleb tier pls leave this board

>>16829450
Completely defeats the point of the RAID 0.

>>16829455
what is it

>>16829471
not chaining 8 pairs of NAS units arranged in raid 0 followed by 8 more NAS units piggybacking running raid 1 to preserve your data in case of hard drive failure

>>16829430
Who's in the back?
>>>/x/

>>16829420
>towing trailers on nice highways is equal to slogging through mud and ruts with shitty maintainence daily
You're either retarded or trolling

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>>16823863
>Where are you CC81PT?
:3 sorry m8 been busy moving

>>16829498
Nice L U B E H A U S

>>16829491
>Daily
The guys doing it daily are doing it on firmly packed dirt roads at low speed, which is a lot easier on a vehicle than highway speeds on asphalt.

>>16829498
Some guy in the last thread was wondering what your trip meant.

>tfw
>278 posts already
>last /org/ took a week to bump to limit
>this /org/ took less than a day
Such is the power of infighting.

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>>16829519
Carbon Camaro '81 Pro-touring

When I tripped up my only noteworthy vehicle was my Camaro which is on an excruciatingly slow pro touring build and has carbon fiber valve covers

>>16829533
Aw. That's a cute tryp history.

When did you move to BC and what happened to the Camaro? Chevy 350?

>>16829525
Suburban generals breed conflict

>>16829533
Makes sense. Hopefully he sees this. If not I'll let him know if I see him ask again.

>>16829544
The last half dozen have been suburban generals. You just don't notice until a Toyota fangirl gets assblasted.

>>16829559
When we first started the /ORG/s back in September, the ones that survived were Yota Master Race editions. Went on like that for at least 2 months.

Before that, the Yoda master race were spread out over the rest of /o/ but were not limited to land cruisers.

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>>16829540
Still have the Camaro, just kinda been sidelined since we have a love/hate relationship with eachother. I live in southern New Mexico now that pic was taken in Washington state. It's got a mild 350 and a 4 speed.

>>16829545
I should be around more now we are pretty much done with the move just have to get things situated in the new house

>>16829572
These never fail to to arouse me.

>>16829559
More like gm neandertals can't process overwhelming evidence that their choice in off road vehicle is inferior to superior engineered Toyota products

>>16829572
What. I thought you were in British Columbia / Washington border or something.

And nice. Any new plans for the 350?

>>16829583
How's that box of Montecristo 4s going? Have you yet to finish them or letting them sit?

Any new purchases, too?

>>16829565
You mean the ones with the Toyota/Land Rover fangirl that lied about owning a P38 and posted pictures of someone else's after being pressured for several threads?

>>16829594
Toyota fangirl detected.
>Muh engineering
Keep moving the goalposts, you have to find something that sticks eventually.

Those of you who DD something lifted with purpose-built tires. Do you do it out of necessity? What sort of a commute do you have? What would you change? How do you feel about driving something built?

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>>16829583
Seconded.

>>16829596
I used to live in WA and miss it sometimes but now I'm innadesert.

I'd love a small blower on the top but it's just a 2-bolt and I'd need better heads and a cam to make proper use of it.

>>16829597
Lmao I don't actually remember that one. Do you have screen caps?

>>16829629
You should do something fun with it! The CEO of one of my clients has a full set of cars. He drives around a Ford 350 but has like '69 camaro that he put a Ramjet 502 in. Just got an M4 the other day, apparently. Fuck I'd love to go take that guy out for a drink.

Old Camaros, foxbodies, and especially 4th gen mustangs always have a special place in my heart.

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should i?

>>16829780
do it

>>16829780
>v8 diesel scout for $2800
bring it down to $2300 if you can. otherwise, looks pretty fucking good

>>16829780
>$2800
WHAT THE FUCK
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THE FUCK?
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>>16829032
>Suburban Defense alliance

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>>16824181
Does it have portal axels?

>>16830315
What axle is that?

>>16830353
Toyota HJ-60

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>>16830353
Not mine, but cool project.

>>16829515
Sounds as though you're a man of the world.

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>>16829204
For a start, the 90 series is tares at just under 1900kg, but then the 90 series you're talking about is the midsize Prado on Hilux/Tacoma 8" running gear.
The FZJ80 Kerbs at just over 2100kg with the UZJ100 Kerbs at 2300kg.
I'll even play into your favourtism by comparing the lightest half ton Suburban, which tares off at 2540kg... Not really seeing where that "72lb" comes in. Hell, the diesel HD 2500 comes in closer to 3 metric tonne. Horses for courses.
Width wise they're much the muchness, with the later model J100 even coming in marginally wider in some examples than the 8th gen Burb, but then you take length into play where both wheelbase and overall length exceeds half a meter in both cases.

Back to the strength of the Toyota 9.5", it's regularly powered by the bespoke 6.5 Chevrolet diesel in both N/A and turbo form without any reliability concerns coming to head, but then again, that's relative to having a vehicle that tares at 2100kg and GVMs at just under 3 tonne to one that tares at 2.5 and GVMs at 3.9 tonne. I'm sure the 9.5 would struggle in an HD, but it's sure as hell excessive in a vehicle that's marginally larger than a midsize SUV.

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J80

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>>16830315
>>16830441
daznice

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Blah blah blah
What happened to nice posting?
Can't we all just get along?

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>>16831029
I like niceposting let's do that

>>16831098
Op post at 1020. Thread dies at 1100

Damn, /ORG/.

>>16830519
The lightest 100 series is 2370kg, the lightest 1/2 ton Suburban is 2186kg, the diesel 4x4 1/2 ton Suburban is 2402kg and weighs more than a 4x4 3/4 ton 5.7 since it has the same 3/4 ton frame, trans, t case, front diff, and rear diff, but with a heavier diesel engine.

>>16829659
>Lmao I don't actually remember that one. Do you have screen caps?
I might on an old hard drive. It was when we were doing back to back Toyota master race threads. I think his final justification for judging the Range Rover so favorably ended up being that "several people on his street owned one"

Suburban Defense Squad was defending the Hummer H2 at the time. There were a lot of Unimog dick suckers talking about how the H2 was WAYYYYY too big to be at all viable as an ORV. ORG has improved since then. We seem to have a lot less brand whores that don't drive and more people that actually wheel.

I might have screen caps on an old HDD but I'd have to do some digging.

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>>16831304
Lmao please do. The only things I have nowadays are of shit like this that may or may not have every happened.