Subaru General /subs/

>>16822691
Fuck off with your vapemobile, faggot. Subaru a shit.

>>16822691
>>16822915
samefag

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>tfw not sure if I want to v7/v8 EJ207 STi swap or keep my E36 M3

Are used WRXs turning into the 4th /o/ meme car behind shitbox 1990s Civics, Miatas, and used BMWs?

>>16823129
Eyyyy saabaru. I guess if you've really got a hardon for subies, the 207 swap is worth it.

Most likely, junkyard parts from wrecked WRX's are quite plentiful and easy to find, not to mention relatively cheap.

>>16822691
03 Legacy Station Wagon any good? Theres a really cheap one on sale near me.

>>16825536
see if the headgaskets have been done

>>16825549
Oh yeah i just saw all of the complaints about it. Is it a good car otherwise? I dont need a wagon but i want one for some reason.

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My 05 this winter

>>16825567
Aside from the headgaskets and possibly the power steering pump taking a shit, they're pretty reliable. If you live somewhere where they salt the roads, watch out for rear quarter panel rust.

>>16822691
Fuck off, this isn't NASIOC

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Why is the Crosstrek the most underpowered vehicle in its segment? A turbo is really all it needs to feel alive. 200hp and the same torque is all it needs.

Which is why a Forester XT sounds so right.

Stop trying to make every goddamn thread a general.

>>16826994
Because we can't get the diesel here.

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Count if it's the wife's car?

No truck because I drive tow truck...

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Sold it back in 2014. Going 173 mph with less than a grand in mods is awesome.

I now want a 90's 2-door impreza with a full 2.5 STi swap including lsds.

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my 02 wrx lol.

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I miss the snow. Controlled drifts for daaays

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Is there a way to swap in an I4 while keeping the AWD?

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>>16822691
who here hates the oem touch screen?

>>16822691
my friend/associate recently bought a bone stock 05 sti, silver with gold bbs wheels.
He threw a cobb port and an invidia catback on it.
Its pretty dope, but he's too much of a faggot to post here so whatever

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>mfw all my normie friends are telling me YOOO AWD WEATHER BROOO now that its snowing

>i'm on summer tires that can't turn or stop for shit and don't want my 15 year old rust free car to rot out like every other one in the area with missing quarter panels/fucked rear strut towers

i hate the snow meme

I'm Holding off buying a new subie until I see what they do with the 2020 STi.
I was talking with one of the rally guys and they were saying that the Tribeca might make a comeback, and if it does, that will hurt Subaru from making a new 2.5L DIT with the new EPA shit.

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>ITT Poor fags who can't afford an Audi with Quattro.

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>>16822691

>>16828995
(You)
My 19 year old shitbox with 183k on it is still more reliable than any VAG steaming pile of tightly coiled dogshit could ever dream of being. Not to mention it isn't ugly because Subaru can actually design a car without using the same exact fugly grille that Audi has copy and pasted on every car they've made since the early 2000s.

Also haldex a shit.

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>>16828995

Only Quattro Audi worth buying was the RS2 and i'm not going to lie, I am indeed too poor to pay 70-100k for a 90's AWD wagon so a GT Foz it is.

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Hiya :0

>>16828995
Alright I'll bite, The only good REAL AWD all the time cars the audi has made are now prices above 70k and are in the previously owned section, Haldex isn't that great and when coupled with VAGs quality (something I know all too well), it makes for a shit tier car.
Tell me, what modern Audi from 2000 on has had a perfect quattro system that isn't bogged down by VAGs issues?

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>>16829349
I wouldn't kick a B5 RS4 out of my garage, but they were all sold only in Europe and still go for 20-30k Euro.

But nope can't think of any good Audis after it. The V8s are pigfat with timing chain/oil consumption/carbon issues, the B8 S4s are understeering pigs or explode diffs, and its worse when you're paying $50-70k for one. Maybe a RS3/TTRS?

>Forester
>Clear Coat has completely failed
>Colour is literally coming off with heavy rains/general wear
>Body isn't great so not really worth the cost of getting a re-spray

Worth vinyl wrapping or plasti-dipping?

>>16828983
>i'm on summer tires that can't turn or stop for shit and don't want my 15 year old rust free car to rot out like every other one in the area with missing quarter panels/fucked rear strut towers
You pulled those dumb rubber strips off the fender well lips right? I don't know what year they stopped putting them on but those are basically the cause of the rust problem in that area because Subaru is literally retarded and doesn't understand how things like water work.

I do agree with you that driving in the snow is massively overrated because of all the fucking salt on the roads ruining your car.

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What's a nice clean headunit that would suit a blobeyes interior nicely.

needs to have USB and aux and no disc drive

>>16829377
Maybe, I don't mind small cars, but I really like manual, what drove me to buy mitsus and subies in the first place.
I drive a modded GTI currently (a dead r32 in the junkyard was my savior) and wish to go back, though, I wouldn't mind if I had a S1 sitting in my garage.

Oh and what are some nice tires to get if I want to splurge a little

my size is 215-45-17

>>16829415
BFG's

>>16829419
This, the sport comp 2s are amazing, especially for the price.

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>>16829390
Mine still has them, but I drove it up from Florida. Still has the zinc plating on most of the bolts underneath, only corrosion is on the battery tiedown and front lower control arms.

Its not even really the well lips that kill them in the long term, but pic related.

The undercoating cracks and ends up retaining water against the welded nuts for the seat latches or the random open hole that's there on side from the factory. A ton of salt state 02-07 Impreza Wagons have that and most people don't find out until its bad enough it's letting water into the cabin or the strut towers fail since that area is covered up with trim/carpet.

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2391932

>>16828897
You'll probably have it sricking out in front of the car bc of where the transaxle starts.

>>16829476
I doubt it. Just move the radiator

>>16829442
The lip where the rear quarter meets the inner unibody is a prime place for rust to start when the strips are on because they retain moisture and salt right next to a point where the panels aren't joined as well as they should be. I know that's what happened on mine because the paint bubbling runs right from the edge of the fender well back into the rear quarter by the fuel door while the strut towers are fine. That side was also the one that still had it's rubber strip on when I got the car whereas the other had fallen off at some point and has zero rust despite 14 years in the salt belt.

I want a 2.5RS, but most of them in SoCal run close to $8k and that seems pretty hard to justify to me.

>>16829713
the 2.5RS' i found in nyc are like close to 4k and i think thats really ridiculous for me

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>>16822691
4u

Hey guys. Looking at a used 2016 wrx limited. 12k miles and even comes with an extra set of wheels that have brand new snow tires on them which would be helpful where I live.. Car has factory audio upgrade and keyless entry. It's a really clean car. Turns out the guy who owned it just traded it in for a minivan. The car looks brand new.

I currently have a 2011 mazdaspeed 3 that I'm debating trading in for the wrx.

Dealer was asking 30990 and I talked them down to 28k.

What do you think?

>>16829835
>Hey guys. Looking at a used 2016 wrx limited. 12k miles and even comes with an extra set of wheels that have brand new snow tires on them which would be helpful where I live.. Car has factory audio upgrade and keyless entry. It's a really clean car. Turns out the guy who owned it just traded it in for a minivan. The car looks brand new.

>I currently have a 2011 mazdaspeed 3 that I'm debating trading in for the wrx.

>Dealer was asking 30990 and I talked them down to 28k.

>What do you think?

you in the wrong thread for this question

>>16829840
I lied. im drunk and cant manage my tabs.

test drive and see which you like better

>>16829835
I wouldn't pay more than 27k personally, but test drive it to see whether you like it or not first.

recommend me some mudflaps for my 04 wrx.

how much is too much to spend on some?

>>16829888
Just get rallyarmor classics. For $100, they're pretty durable. The pu flaps are nicer looking and won't get pitted by rocks, but you risk running over them when backing up down an incline.

>>16829400
Pioneer MVH-X370BT

>>16829888
Checked

Don't bother with mudflaps if you're going to lower it, otherwise just stick with rallyarmor classics. The polyurethane ones are $40 more for a shiny finish and they're floppier, the opposite of what you want.

Why should I buy a wrx over the a4?

looking for something used in the uppers 20s.

>>16832252
I, too, found myself torn between a WRX and an A4. Similarly priced, both AWD sedans, etc. I picked the A4 - it was a nightmare in terms of reliability, and ended up being an enormous expense despite frequent preventative maintenance, and having purchased it at 40K miles. Totally ridiculous - I owned a rotary that was more reliable.

Just my two cents, but it stands out as the worst car decision I've ever made.

>>16832311
I have heard similar... I am attracted to the German aesthetics and refinements.

Maybe a good compromise is getting the WRX limited.

>>16829442
This is the only spot i have on my Subaru

>>16832339
>>16832311
>>16832252
In my experience, Subarus are good reliable cars. The only thing midly difficult about them is doing the spark plugs because the engine layout gives you very little room to work with unless you jack up the engine.

>>16832370
i dont get this spark plug meme. did it last weekend for the first time in my 2000 impreza GT. on the left side you just remove the air filter box and thats it. the right side you need to remove the window washer container and the battery and you're good to go

>>16829953
that ones kinda ugly bro but thanks anyways.

>>16829419
>>16829429

What are BFG? are they any noisy? what causes tyre noise anyways

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>>16832566
BFGoodrich brand tires. The sport comp 2 is kind of noisy over 40 mph but nothing you can't cover up with either a nice exhaust or turning up your radio. Well worth it for their performance and for the price though.

The tire noise would be caused by the tread pattern design. More space between tread blocks and bigger tread blocks are noisier at high speeds, one reason all terrain tires are not recommended for highway use. Most quiet tires have much smaller tread blocks with much more siping.

>>16828994
Can confirm subaru is making a new truck but it wont be out till 2018/19

>>16825567
Head gaskets and timing belt. Basic maintenance is all you need after that.

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Any reason I shouldn't get a BRZ? What are its worst problems and issues?

>>16832566
No aftermarket unit is going to be aesthetic, man.

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Dumping.

1/4

Bone stock '02 Impreza WRX Wagon

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>>16832827
2/4

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>>16832847
3/4
My little dude is cooler than me

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>>16832853
4/4
Gotta change the dash lights to red

>>16832853
>recaro booster seat

Fuckin' nice

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>>16832904
No reason not to have one. Don't cost much different than a Graco seat or any of the other brands.

>>16833161
Thinking about getting a 2016 wrx. How roomy are they for putting a toddler in the back? My current Honda Insight second gen works but you have to scoot up the front seat to give the child foot room.

I was thinking about a new 2017 WRX premium because I wanna good AWD daily driver sedan in manual with heated seats because winters in NY can suck ass

Is this a good idea or should I consider other cars?

>>16833561
My professor bought a 2016 as his family car, you most certainly can fit a toddler seat back there.

>>16833642
You can find a relatively new A4 Quattro, but if you're buying new, the Subaru is pretty much the only one in its class.

>>16833642
Its a good idea, how many AWD cars under $30,000 new are there?

Let alone manual turbo AWD. If you want used you can look at a IS/GS350 AWD or G37x/Q50 3.7 AWD but that's really it. Or a used WRX STi/Evo X.

>>16833561
Pretty roomy, but you should go to the dealer and find out.

>>16833683
>Its a good idea, how many AWD cars under $30,000 new are there?
tons of AWD cars

how many AWD sedans are there? not many without blowing loads of money. let alone a manual in this day and age with a turbo. I can get any AWD SUV those aren't hard to get but I hate SUV's and crossovers and I like the small sedan looks.

Its a very unique car I like, too bad Lancers aren't made anymore because I'd consider them

>>16833561
I'm the one that posted those pics and i have an '02. It's roomy enough.
I've seen tons of stuff about how the newer ones are great for compromising between a fun, family oriented car though.
My kid is only about a year old, so I'd imagine that the bigger he gets it's gonna get a little tighter.
My wife has a 2012 impreza wagon that is the main family car. We never all ride in mine so space isn't an issue for me. That's also why the headrests are all off.

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The WRX is a complete meme. I'm annoyed that I bought one. It's a cheap economy car with a turbo. The suspension isn't that great, the engine is unimpressive, the steering is numb. The only time this car is any fun to drive is when there is snow on the road.

pic related, my Memebaru.

>>16833161
Ayy I got one for my son. I like em.

>>16833709
>It's a cheap economy car with a turbo.
dude its nothing like the other dumb economy turbo cars. Those other ones have ridiculously small displacement comparatively and make no where near the horse power. Hell none of them are AWD either

>>16833702
I forgot crossovers exist, but yes Manual AWD Sedans/Wagons would've been a better idea. Alternatively AWD cars that aren't totlaly soulless.

WRXs are popular because they have their niche. I'd personally just get a base model. Sunroof and heated seats aren't worth it to me.

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>>16833735
>wut iz focus st
AWD is a fucking meme. The only things AWD does is make sure you have nothing but normalfag understeer, a little extra traction when the snow is really deep, and enough traction from a stop to blow the fuck out of our transmission and/or clutch if you try to launch it.

Anything else people say about AWD is a meme.

>>16833752
>AWD is a fucking meme
can you find a reason for why something is bad instead of just calling it a meme? Because it doesn't help anyone figure out what the fuck you want.

>understeer
holy fuck dude you have a WRX in manual, use your clutch to stop understeer.

>traction to blow the fuck out of your transmission
do you even snow drive in the winter? Holy shit where do you get this crap

>launch it
launching in any car is bad for the transmission you dunce. Retards like you are the reason why subarus got the meme of glass transmisison

>>16832642
Tell me more, I would love a Subaru truck again.

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>>16833778
GOAT

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>>16833767
You didn't even read my post.

>use your clutch to stop understeer.
What are you even talking about here? You're just making shit up.

>>traction to blow the fuck out of your transmission
>do you even snow drive in the winter? Holy shit where do you get this crap
Your reading comprehension is fucking terrible.

You saw that picture of MY WRX in 6 inches of snow.

>launching in any car is bad for the transmission you dunce.
And especially bad in a fucking Subaru. What is your god damn point? The ONLY fun thing you can do with this car in dry conditions is launch it because it will do 0-60 in less than 5 seconds if you abuse it. Anything else you do in this car is fucking boring unless you have snow on the ground or loose gravel roads.

These cares are HIGHLY overrated.

>>16833822
then where do you live, I'll but that subaru off of you, you clearly don't like what it has to offer.

>>16833822
>You didn't even read my post.
I quoted 4 of your complaining points of course I read it. Its full of misinformation.

>What are you even talking about here? You're just making shit up.
When turning or experiencing understeer, you press the clutch in to kill power between the engine and tires this causes the car to turn more sharply than intended which is understeer. You can't just let your foot off the gas because the engine is still powering the tires, the clutch removes it like shifting into neutral.

>my WRX in 6 inches of snow
thats not 6 inches dude your car is on top of the snow its at best of 2 inches. Would you rather have Front wheel drive or rear wheel drive in the middle of the snow? because you'll have way less traction than with AWD.

>especially bad in a subaru
no its not, the glass transmission meme come retards running the fuck out of their cars the same way the headgasket meme started. They'd red line every fucking day then whine when their cars shit the bed.

>>16833822
I like the steering and visibility, and the high grip levels on mine.

Its also quick when the turbo spools.

>>16833846
>intended which is understeer
oversteer

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>>16833845
Colorado. Land of the Jewbaru. I'm glad I don't live in upstate Jew York anymore because none of the WRXfags here try and wave at me because every 25th car is a WRX of some vintage.

>tfw I haven't taken any pictures of my car since I bought it new because I hate it

>>16833846
>no using the brake to reel in understeer
Fucking kill yourself and learn to fucking drive.

>>16833860
>Fucking kill yourself and learn to fucking drive.
Yea but why kill speed with the brakes more than you need to when you can just kill power to the tires to cause oversteer. Even then why should I have to tell you to use the brakes. do I have to tell you to start your engine before?

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>>16833791

>>16833860
I live in the northwest, 1 in 10 is an STi up here, I'll trade you cars, my DD is FWD.

>>16832853
>having kids


You cucked yourself m8, Please say It's your wifes son

>>16833874
9/10. Would reply again. You got me pretty good.

>>16833876
fellow baja owner here, waitiing for money to get right so i can start working on my car. where'd you get the tints? and is the visor a legacy or did you buy a special baja one?

>>16833997
that isn't mine. it's off of some baja facebook page.
Mine is here:
>>16833791

Sold it last year though since our son needed the back seat and my german shepherd needed a place to ride.
Was replaced by this:
>>16832847

A legacy one should fit i think. Legacy stuff fits the baja 9/10 times if i recall.

>>16833997
The legacy/outback hood is exactly the same. It fits.

>>16822691
Off to NASIOC

>>16828406
are you that guy that ran from the cops in the panhandle?

>>16833997
Post Baja

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Is it bad that I don't sit and wait for the engine to warm up for like 10-15 minutes before taking off?

I tend to just wait maybe 20-30 seconds then go.

oh and should I get one of these sunshades for my blobeye :3 they're like $5 off of ebay

>>16822691
>check out local dealership
>fucking 2016 and 2017 foresters everywhere
>2/3rds the fucking catalog of used cars is foresters

WTF is wrong with them? Is this a fluke or is something really wrong?

>>16834895
As long as it's a modern aluminum engine 30 seconds is fine. Just drive it lightly for the first few minutes until it's warmed up.

>>16834924
That's what I'd do. it's an 04 wrx if it matters

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>>16832566
Meh, no head unit is going to mesh with the fake aluminum tombstone. I'm just happy that I can link up the audio with my phone through Bluetooth.

>>16835020
paint/plastidip it black or darker gray :^)

>>16832862

>>16833876
What's up with the lights? Is that a film over them?

>>16835101
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chameleon-Color-Headlight-Taillight-Fog-Light-Vinyl-Tint-Film-Headlight-film-/141485482186

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Pic from last summer when I bought her

>>16835020
You could also look for a 07 Impreza 6-Changer HU ($40-80, says C-124 on front)

http://saab92x.com/viewtopic.php?id=33433

http://www.pacparts.com/part.cfm?sku=930521126579

>>16835113
Thanks, interesting. Does it change the look out the light output color?

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Me on the left

>>16835442
>no usb or bluetooth audio

>>16829305
Top is before and bottom is after?
Good job, the restore looks great!

Can't wait for the summer so I can put on my gold rims and look like a fuccboi

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My burden. Can't wait til it's sold.

>>16835917
how many miles and why selling?

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>>16835924
Just over 102k, ready to purchase a corvette.

>>16835933
trading to dealer for vette or selling privately? how much is least you would take? assuming you have done 100k mile service with timing belt and such

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>>16835954
Selling privately, timing belt, head gaskets all subsequent shit. ARP studs. The whole she-bang.
Asking 15,500 at this point.

>>16835982
wow, should be an easy quick sale if you got some receipts. How long have you had it? any regrets?

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>>16835990
Been up about a month and a half, no real interest. I have papers for everrrrything. Probably gonna end up returning to stock.

2 years, and if I could go back and do it again I'd get a corvette.

>>16836006
what kind of corvette? i'd go with cleanest C4 zr1 i could find. guessing you are leaning towards C5 or above

>>16836029
C5Z/FRC or bust

>>16835051
>sea of black
Yeah, that'll totally bode well for AZ summers.

>>16835051
You're right. not painting the little bit off silver trim is going to stop you from burning alive.

>>16836281
Try touching any dark surface in your car after it's been sitting in 120 degree heat for a few hours, then tell me what you think.

Also, the silver really ties the dash together.

>>16836294
Used to live in El Paso. I'm just not a bitch i guess.

>>16826079
>>16822691
Paint your headlight covers black to make it look less like something my mom would drive

>>16836408
I think some people like having headlights that put out light.

>>16826079
>rice aftermarkets

>>16833728
I find it insane that people with kids browse on here

>>16837326
Having kids doesn't instantly make you not retarded.

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My 2010 DGM. I've owned it a little over a year now and all I've done is and Intake, Catless Downpipe, SS lines, and AP. Next mods are suspension related.

Wish Subarus didn't have such thin paint. Need to get a bunch of spots touched up.

>>16834916
Bump for answer

>>16832733
Check youtube. there's a couple videos literally titled "things i hate about my brz" and others like "things i love about my brz", mostly by the same guy. For example they don't like how quiet it is but it's low asf and eats corners

>>16832733

It's not the fastest car around. Other than that, it's a fun car.

>>16834916
>>16837878
>What is a lease return

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>>16834272

Why yes, yes I am.

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>>16837991
Yeah, I've been looking around and I haven't seen a whole lot of complaints beyond it being 2slow, having poor back seats, and bad rear visibility. At least there's no glaring problems with the thing.

>>16838007
I've heard as much. I figured since this will be my first car that's not an anemic piece of shit, it'll take me a good long time to get to the point where that bothers me, at which point I'll either upgrade/tune the thing or just replace it.

It is a really nice car, and I like the sube badge more than most others.

Any good reviews on the new subaru cvt?

>>16838489

I'm currently looking to buy a turbo or a super for it. Not sure yet which will best suit my needs and which is just more fun.

>>16838489
You'll be fine, its a 2 door hard-top Miata with backseats, the modern 240SX.

Just don't fall for /o/ trolling and don't dagumi in public roads (its why most of them have rebuilt/salvage history by now if you look for one used).

They're great track/autoX cars which is why they're so popular in those arenas, just go over anything that seems worn out, get new brake pads and run it. No real deal-breaking issues aside from a propensity to run into solid objects.

>>16838620
They work fine for normies.

>>16838687
I'd get the super, takes care of the lack of low end torque.

>>16837326
Been here for a long ass time. But yeah don't post often. But don't let anyone tell you, you cannot have kids and a car. Still have my vette and my wife has her golf gti and I got a family truck.
>>16837345
Very true.

>>16822691
about to start up my 98 legacy, excited because last night it was starving itself of fuel at idle and threw a cel after dying a few times but drove ok. not like i have work in 20min

subaru absolutely a shit i miss my fucking toyota

>>16839061
When was the last time you changed your fuel filter? I have a 98 Legacy too and it's a great car.

>>16839061
your fuel pump fucked m8

>>16839260
Luckily fuel pumps are easy af in Legacys There's an access panel behind the passenger rear seat.

>>16838620
As long as you're not trying to get power out of the engine they hold up. Don't EVER get a cvt wrx.

Anyone wish they had got a BMW or Audi instead of a WRX?

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I never understand these car. They are the most loud automotive usually but they are generally not at all good and driven by people wit pony tails.
I do like them a little bit more than some other cars but they are an oddity.

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I need some more up to date pictures.

>>16823129
>>16823144
Svx engine swap!

>>16842289
That's just a Cortina tho

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>>16842297
My car's been mistaken for many things, but thats a first.

>>16842058
Not for the price.
BMW a shit and Audi is a overpriced VW.

>>16842494
Is benz overpriced too?

Right now I am looking at a fully loaded used 2016 wrx for under 30k vs a 2008 m3. They are not in the same league but they are compatibles for me.

>>16842503
>inb4 scotty meme
Depends on the benz, cuz that shit will cost you.
This also depends on what you're looking for, the FA20 is a pretty good engine on it's own, easily tunable.
M3 will give more power though.

what really makes a new sedan wrx POP

besides no coolant

Why is the Subaru used market so overpriced?

>>16842834
Demand is exceeding supply.

>>16832862
How much insurance do you pay for that?

>>16833709
Lel worst gen

>>16844118
For the WRX?

$97 a month

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Just got my Justy roadworthy a couple weeks ago, anyone else have one of these?

>>16844646
My first car was one. I loved it.

This is now 15 years ago.
;_;

>>16834924
What's the procedure for older ( '80s) engines?

>>16844667
Mine too, actually! I just bought it last month. It's probably a less reasonable first car these days, though.

>>16834895
That is actually the ideal warm-up procedure. Give it a few seconds for the oil to flow completely, and drive it easy, light throttle and avoid going over 3500 rpms if you can until it's up to operating temp.

>>16844695
Same, it's just less vital if it's an iron block with iron heads. Aluminum is softer and more sensitive to change in temperature so you need to warm it up so it expands fully before running it hard. Even 80s Subaru motors were all aluminum though.

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>>16822691
Girlfriend is looking for a WRX in the $3,500 price range as a winter beater.
In New England so rust is a big factor, but any common problem spots to look out for? People like to overprice these things here so budget leads to alot of high mile & automatic cars.

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>>16822691
Here's my Subi. Thinking about getting it wrapped for the Spring.

>>16846808
In New england too having the same problem just finding a good priced rs

>>16846808

>$3500 WRX

What you'll expect:

180,000+ miles
Some amount of rust (wagons are worse than sedans due to being suspectable to rear strut tower rust, but that, rear quarter panels are the big ones. Most will have rusted out front subframes and crash beams by now, neither of which are structural on these cars)
Possible bad headgaskets or synchros
Stupid ricer mods

Buy one if you expect the motor to blow up soon. I'd just get one from a non-salt state and get it shipped/drive it back up. Or just look hard until you find your unicorn (look for 9-2X Aeros and Legacy GTs too)

>>16828910
Yeah, the first thing I put in my Forester was the Pioneer NEX 8100. OEM infotainment systems are garbage. Now they want you to pay yearly for Starlink. LUL

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>>16822691
I miss it...

>>16847116
Is Washington (Seattle) a salt state?

>>16847385
I'm pretty sure it isn't like most of the West Coast but it wouldn't hurt to check.

Either way with one in your budget if it doesn't have rust, a slushbox, accident history, or a fuckton of miles expect to get a retarded good deal, or it'll limp far enough to get home then shit a headgaskets, throw a timing belt, or blow a synchro. And you'll likely have to travel.

Then you start saving up for a EJ207 swap ($3000, Japanese Market 02-07 2.0 STi motor with a twin scroll turbo and 8250rpm redline, minimal wiring needed, gets you 280-300whp stock and will take abuse like a real motor, spend another $3000 and get the driveline that came with the motor for something good for 6000rpm clutch drops back to back until you blow a clutch + DCCD). And you cuck your gf after making her daily driver into a project into something reasonable like a used Fit or N/A Forester.

2004 wrx
56000 miles
$9200

did I fuck up? this is my first car I've bought for myself and I also don't know how to drive manual. well sort of can now

>>16846808
>$3500 for a WRX
Unless you're buying a rust free shell, I'm just going to tell you straight up. You are a fucking idiot. You will not find a decent example for that price. They'll all be broken in a way that makes it undrivable in one way or another, and being New England, will also be rusted to the point where it might as well be totaled.

You'll have more luck trying to find a 2.5 RS for that price, and they'll be in much better condition, and they work much better as a beater.

>>16847551
For something with a mileage that low, not bad. They really aren't the best/easiest cars to learn manual on, but I guess you could do worse.

>>16847551
Bad when you remember you paid $9200 for a car that MSRP'd at $25,000 14 years ago.

Not so bad if it has low mileage and remember its the same shit as a 2014 WRX in almost every way.

I personally would've paid $6-7000, for $9000 you can find a 06-07 with ~100k miles or something with a STi swap done by a shop.

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>>16847985
I paid $1800 for a car that MSRP'd for $24000 ($36,700 today) 20 years ago. I don't plan on reselling it and it's value can only go up from here since the supply is dwindling, and I've fixed a ton of shit since I bought it.

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>>16847551
>$9200
I'm deeper than that into my 02 because the engine spun a bearing less than 20000 miles into owning it.

>>16847783
What makes them harder to learn on?

Can 90s automatic subarus still be fun

Realised there's no way to justify selling my liberty/legacy in order to get a VE ute so i'm going to do the next best thing:

$400 on thule roof racks
$600 on towbar
$300 on chink shit ricer gear

I'm so tired of this lumbering shit heap, and it's worth so little, im going to slap some hella horns innit, sticker bomb the mirrors, chop the grill, debadge and otherwise form myself into the biggest ironic soob faggot.

It's ok, i'm just ironically gay.

>>16848420
Heavier clutch relative to most other cars, catch point is high up, AWD (more internal friction), and they're notoriously finicky in first gear (you have to be testing smooth with the throttle or it'll buck you).

What about a good gen for a forester? I'm really close to buy one and i'm in the middle of second and third gen!

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AYO HOL UP
*blows headgasket
YOU BE SAYIN
*understeers
FINNA
*Burns oil
WE BE LIKE
*loses torque
KNOWHAHIMSAYIN
*Trunk sticks
YO
*Grenades turbo
WE WUZ RALLY AND SHEEIT

>>16849823
meme

>>16849065
SF or SG foresters a best. I'd take the SG though, they handle better.