How can I get over how awful it feels to drive an old car as

The fact that you will be driving a piece of shit should do it.

>>16817275
>don't sit in it
>don't drive it
>don't insure it
Why do you think boomers let their precious cars rust for so long

Most old cars shared a platform with at least one other thing that had a comfy suspension.
As for empeegees you can tune your carburetor to get better economy at the cost of power.

>>16817289

This. Old cars are so over hyped, they look cool in movies or just cool in general due to old aesthetic but everything else after that is garbage as they are unsafe with no modern comforts and are just absolute trash

>>16817275

Not a problem with non-American cars.

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>>16817275
>how awful it feels to drive an old car
>disliking glorious land yacht handling

>>16817291
I always see boomers take their cars to the store and take up two to three parking spaces because 'muh classic I don't wanna damage'.

Here's an idea, dipshit, don't fucking take it to Walmart.

>>16817302

Yes it is all old cars are just miserable as daily drivers.

>>16817309

This is a joke.

Yeah old cars are nice to look at and keep for collectors value but anyone who spouts their nonsense about them being so comfy because of muh suspension and them feeling like driving a cough are disillusioned liars with buyers remorse

Sure are a lot of fucking kids on here this sunday

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i drove this for a long ass time as a DD, sure it got 15 MPG but it was the comfiest ride ever, got a lot of compliments

New suspension bushings all around, new shocks, new steering box, get an alignment

>>16817365
>Wasting all that money and still driving a steaming pile of shit....priceless.

>>16817372
Better than your car big boy

>>16817372
Also, new ball joints and tie rod ends. Altogether $300 at Rockauto.

>>16817389

Unless his car is a pre 90s piece of shit I would not bet on it

>>16817399
>>16817398
>>16817390
>>16817372
>>16817289
>>16817294
>>16817301

>>16817352
>>16817309

>But muh couch seats and old aesthetic

Face it old cars are absolute shit and a terrible thing to have on the road at all, to say otherwise is crazy

>>16817275
if you are referring specifically to classic American cars like your pic,

the fact that you are driving a classic American car on the road. the satisfaction alone, (and the comfy ride if it's a landyacht) would be enough for me.

it's just you, and the road, maybe a radio. no lane assist, no backup camera and automated braking, no bullshit "driver aides" of any kind, and it may be slow, but at least it looks damn good. and feels comfy to drive

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>>16817275
>and insurance prices
eurocuck detected

Get historical plates and enjoy that $100 a year insurance

>>16819395

weaponized autism

>>16819395
> no contoured seats or lumbar support. Every corner sends you sliding off the seat like the fat shit you are

Yeah nah

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Insurance is dirt cheap unless you live in >yurop

Don't be a cuck, get a classic truck

>>16820031

Even worse autism than driving a huge new truck

All cons no pros aside pesonal aesthetic

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>>16820049
>No pros
It's still a truck with a massive payload capacity.

>>16817275
Restore it. Makes driving it godlike knowing you made it run and drive.

>>16820087

It is a crap metal brick with shit suspension and frame so you would not be safe even if a sedan hit you, hardly the right kind of power in the engine to do proper hauling, the inside is like hiding in a trunk it is just gross and boring

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I just bought a 92' jag and I've had to the following to it:

>replace water pump
>recharge A/C
>add window tinting
>swap out the rims

I fuckin love this thing, even if I have to give it premium gas. it's in fantastic condition - barely 59k miles on it.

In 1992 it costed 58 grand. Today its worth barely 3. That's depreciation for you.

It also tells you what old cars are actually worth.

>>16820049
>can diagnose and fix any problems in driveway with a timing light, flathead screwdriver, and socket set

>no pros

>>16820100
not so gr b8 m8 I rate it a 0

>>16820101

well 90s do not count as super old, we are talking the crappy classics everyone raves about

>>16820092

Totally off point t why classics are complete garbage themselves, you can do that with anything

>>16820109

And you will be doing that nearly every weekend, unless you are talking the newest most compact engine bay computer controlled cars then no that still is not a pro to driving and old ass clunker

>>16820100
That's a lot of red hot opinions there friendo. This thing has 4.11s, about 14 leafs per side and a drivetrain more solid than the political situation in Germany.

The only thing hampering it is brakes.

>>16820135
>And you will be doing that nearly every weekend
no you won't
ask me how I know

>tfw i'm probably arguing with a troll

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>>16820135
Classic cars have a sound to them that modern cars don't. I can't describe it, but you know the difference between an injection V8 and a carb V8. They sound better to me. Most cars today have traction control which makes driving them boring, can't slide them for shit. Modern cars look like blobs going down the road and have no character while a classic car has character, almost a personality.

>>16820140

Yeah and unless you really really love classics because of how they loo that took you quite some time, effort, and money

>>16820142

Sure how do you know, but it does not help the case that old cars really suck compared to new ones.

>>16820188

Yeah a lot of modern cars sound fantastic when you tune them and change things around to your liking, not many people need to slide their fucking cars they just drive them to relax and get places in a comfy fashion, and your character gets represented on your vehicle by how you work on it and pretty it up, classic cars do not have personality because they are good in any way they just get attention because they are old as shit and should not be on the road. like an old man in a club

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>>16820211
>a lot of modern cars sound fantastic when you tune them and change things around to your liking

Yeah, you can do that to an old car too. You don't like the drum brakes? Guess what, you can make them disc brakes!

>not many people need to slide their fucking cars they just drive them to relax and get places in a comfy fashion

You want comfy? Get an old Cadillac and let that beast absorb the bumps.

>classic cars do not have personality because they are good in any way they just get attention because they are old as shit and should not be on the road. like an old man in a club

They get some attention for being old, mostly they get attention for having a story behind them. Take my truck for example
>be me, 16
>dad and I are cleaning up a place that called us for scrap removal
>first thing we pull out is a 1977 Ford F150 Custom. No motor or trans but an amazing body
>claimed the truck
>get a bonded title
>dad and I proceed to fix the truck over summer vacation
>drop in a 460 with 30k miles on it
>truck now roasts tires

Classic cars are only nice to people who really really care about them, they are old for a reason and everything has changed since then for a reason.

Some people like what they like, we can agree on that and we can also agree that old cars have nothing over new cars but that is just progress

>>16820211
Effort maybe, money, not so much. Most old vehicles use engines and parts that spanned decades, so parts are cheap and everywhere.

And before you bring up constant carburetor tuning, I rejetted and tuned mine a year ago and it's been fine for the last year without touching it

>>16817275
>didn't buy an old Lincoln
faggot

>>16820329

that is a caddie in the picture tho...

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>>16819395
>a-at least other people will think im cool

no they wont

also

>putting what other people think over your own comfort

You fucking white guys are pathetic

>>16820354

What about blacks and mexicans and their low riding caddies and shit

>>16820290
I'm a Pontiac guy but damn that's nice

>>16820373
Because that's what they like themselves and don't give a fuck about what anyone else thinks
Is like itasha

>>16820373
>b-but niggers and spics do it too!!!!

Fucking white "men"

Its still funny to see someone driving a pre-2005 to me.
Appreciate but damn thats old.

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>>16820453
wew

>>16820453

this, you have no excuse unless you are dirt fucking poor

>>16820465

This is the truck of someone with a fat or ugly/stupid significant other

>>16820510

probably none at all

>>16820477
I straight up prefer driving an older, simple truck I'm familiar with to something newer with more planned obsolescence. Doesn't hurt anything pre-OBDII in my state doesn't have to go through inspection.

>>16820510
>>16820563

gay guys love vee ates you faggot

>>16820577

Your preference does not change that old cars are pieces of shit compared to newer cars

It proves not everybody shares your sentiment, though.

>>16817424
>n-n-nobody could possibly have different expectations than myself
terminate your session

>>16820614
>>16820612

You can have a preference for shit, but that wont change it from being shit

>>16820465

Like I said, you can get a 2010 Ford pickup for relatively cheap. Miles out the ass but at least it doesn't look like an old farm truck.

>>16820622
>if i pretend to be really contrarian people will think i'm cool

Why are people so insistent on telling other people what they don't like?

I like old cars. I like new cars. I like lots of things inbetween.

>>16820701

The point is that you can like shit but that does not make it any less shit

>>16817301
2 time third gen firebird owner here, can confirm. I fucking hate almost everything about these things. Only reason i still have one is because i also fucking love them for some unknown reason. I dont even think either of them have/had airbags.

>>16820764
So? A majority of /o/ likes 90s cars. They're all unilaterally shit

>>16820824
There's a lot of nice 90s cars though. The 70s and 80s were where most of the shitters came from.

>>16820622

Your preference is a Honda McPlastic special, hold the practicality but double the gimmicks.

Your preference is shit.

>>16817275

You made this thread a few days ago with the same image of the same car.

Buy the fucking thing already, or don't. But stop talking about it.

>>16821111
British Golden decades-10's & 20's
German golden decades-30's & 40's
American golden decades-50's & 60's
European golden decades-70's & 80's
Japanese golden decades-90's & 00's
Korean golden decades-10's & 20's

Best decades for car production/"innovation" by country.

>>16817389
2016 Honda. So that would be a no
>Big Man
Fuck off boomer scum.Retire already so someone who is actually in their 20s can have your entry level paying job.

>>16821201

2016 Honda is better than some things I suppose. Like a shopping cart or anal with a cactus.

What's the newest "old car" you can get? In America, anyway.

>>16822202
Early 90s stuff.

>>16822202
What did he mean by this

>>16822202
2011 Crown Vic/Grand Marquis. They were the best 80's car sold in the US at the time they were discontinued.

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>>16822217
>this is the interior of a car made and sold in 2011
Where's the touch screen? How do I connect my iPhone? Why isn't there a numberpad on the steering wheel? Where's the center console for my double mocha latte and vape stick?

>>16820784
Don't mean to be a dick, but what is so appealing about the third gen? I own a fourth gen Z28 and I've never understood the appeal of the third gens.

it scares me people defend that shit

There is really no reason to be driving anything that is over 10 years old unless you are absotluelty broke or have a very good personal reason I guess, any car that gets even past 2000 is really shit on the interior and comforts and when you drop below the 90s it just makes zero sense to have

Old cars are nice to look at, that is it, period they have nothing else going for them at all so when people talk about them being a better ride or something it is crazy

>>16822989

ye

>>16822989

meh. I'm driving an 05 and it still feels pretty good (minus no aux). my sister's 03 is complete garbage though.

>>16823294

Yeah you can still get around in them without it being awful, but like I said start dropping below the 2000s and it gets bad, drop below 90s and it gets really fucking horrible with each year you pass and is just disgusting lower than 80. Anyone who would argue there is something to old vehicles besides aesthetic is a liar.

I mean if you love old cars that is one thing but it is so stupid that you see pieces of shit like OPs car going for 10k plus on craigslist listings

No one is ever going to pay over a couple grand for a car from the 70s unless it was in mint nearly untouched condition

>>16817275
Yes, old cars suck, spread the word. Especially the cars from 55-69. Please spread the word.

>>16823780
You're average pre-73 Cadillac, which that is, in running condition is worth over 7 Grand minimum so long as it doesn't have any glaring issues

>>16820049
>hardly the right kind of power in the engine to do proper hauling

Wat? Old pickups with granny first gears (or a C6 or T400 auto) and stout springs were fucking made to haul heavy loads. They are easy to work on, parts are cheap, upgrades abound if you care, and are frequently still in use as work trucks because they function so well.

You are literally making shit up. I have decades using and working on old and newer trucks. My '76 F250 wrecker (F 350 chassis and running gear, added overload leaf in constant contact for towing, 460, C6 mild cam, Holley 650) with a Holmes 440 boom has no problem towing, or steering, or stopping and I assembled it from leftovers. (F100 cab means F100 insurance and taxes!) I don't do brand whoring and my C20 crew cab (C30 dually rear axle, spring mods, Century wheel lift, 366 big block, T400) does fine too.

Most of what you need for hauling is good brakes, rear springs, and a low first gear. My insane but highly experienced redneckbro even towed a 40pax International 1600 bus with his C30 wrecker. It had a 292 inline six (great low end torque) which gave zero fucks about anything.

>>16820211
>Yeah and unless you really really love classics because of how they loo that took you quite some time, effort, and money

The point of those trucks is they DON'T take much time, effort or money. Not him but I've done it both ways, rebuilding frame-off for fun and to save cash on tow trucks and just buying and driving.

If an older American truck kicks your ass, it's all you. They were built as tools. Upgrading his brakes from drums is easy too if wanted, and not just "easy for an experienced mechanic". They are ideal for learning to wrench.

>>16820329
>>didn't buy an old Lincoln

I love old Lincolns. They make great 460/C6 donors for trucks, the disc brake 9" rears are easy sales to hot rodders, and when you fill them up with scrap they weigh enough to make you decent beer money. :-)

Don't worry, I never killed a nice one.

>>16823842

You basing that off of anything there buddy or just throwing fucking numbers out there

>90 posts
>34 ips
There is some serious samefaggotry in this thread.

>>16819974
I bet you wear custom orthopedic shoes that they had to take a laser 3D map of your feet to make.

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>>16817275
> it's a single autist selfposting to feel less lonely thread
I own and operate this car on a daily basis.
I could have bought anything else, but I got this instead.
I got it because I wanted it, and because I like it.
Shocking truth, not everyone has tastes as garbage as yours.
Feel free to buy a modern Corolla, and leave the good cars to the rest of us.

Cuck.

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>YOU SHOULD ONLY BE DRIVING SOMETHING LESS THAN TEN YEARS OLD

>REEEEEEEEEE WHY DO ALL NEW CARS HAVE 15,000 SENSORS AND ELECTRONICS THAT WILL DIE WITH NO REPLACEMENTS AND 45 AIRBAGS AND CRUMPLE ZONES BIGGER THAN TEXAS AND A/B/C COLUMNS A FOOT THICK

>same person

I have no respect for anyone that claims to hold an opinion on this board. I don't even know why I come here.

>>16824268
No joke it's probably CIA shills worn out from shitposting in /pol/ blowing off steam by trying to get people to stop driving cars they can't hack/track/make kill you. Anyone driving a mew vehicle is sitting in a machine the government has a killswitch to.

If you get an old car that isn't a slushy american boat then it'll usually feel better to drive than the modern UX-driven safety appliance.

>>16820100
>boring interior

I don't understand.

>>16823318
>insane power steering
>fun body roll
>cozy bench seats
You might not enjoy it, but you're kidding if you think you can speak for everyone.

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>>16824277
>had one of those
Thank you for outing yourself as a busrider

90s are okay

>>16819429
dont historical plates have maximum miles and shit you need to drive under?

>>16820135
You'll do it every weekend if you are stupid as you seem to be. Not only is it easy to do, but it will be set that way for a long ass time. There's a reason they're still around today, jackass. The only ones that end up in shit heaps from them dipshit owners like you.

>>16826530

They will just fall apart,stay uncomfortable and without power or any benefits other than they look nice

>>16827363

There are only a handful of people willing to defend their old shit rationally, most get upset that you point out they are driving shit and refuse to admit it

>>16826411
Usually. Classic plates in MN are something like 3k miles per year

>>16827518
>>16819429

Does having those classic vehicle plates really make the insurance drop like that?

I mean what kind of liability do you get or what happens if your ride gets hit and buckles?

>>16827624

It is actually really bad insurance for anything but taking it to car shows which is the intention, if you get in or cause an accident you are fucking fucked

>>16822235
Why the hell would you want any of those things?

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>>16822989

>>16822235
literally everyone who does not like old cars

>>16817275
new aerodynamic fuel economy cuck mobiles
>throttle not connected by wire
>steering wheel not psychically connected to wheels
>will never experience feeling the road
>break not by wire
>electric nannies
>"hurr durr old lady cars"

>>16829315

What...

>>16829315

>Buyers remorse

holy fuck, balkan wastelander here, i know we're pretty much neil blomkamp : the region, but i can't help LMAOing at both the insecure burgers and emasculated western europeans, "old thing=needs maintenance" is hardly a groundbreaking thing to claim, but i don't see why this automatically means that anything pre-1990 is unusable, i regularly see early 80s golfs and yugo holdouts on the streets and if MPG and maintenance was such a fucking problem we poor-ass balkanniggers probably wouldn't be driving them around so much

>>16820031
>Insurance is dirt cheap unless you live in >yurop
It costs next to nothing to insure vintage cars. It's just that no one would want a truck here when vintage Euro cars are much nicer.

>>16829948

>>16829948

It is not that they are crappy to work on, the point is they lack any pros aside from a nicer "classier" aesthetic but everything else that has progressed with cars over the past few decades has made them objectively inferior in a lot of ways

People in the thread are trying to make it seem like there are and redeemable qualities about older cars vs new ones when there isn't.

Enjoy what you drive, do whatever you want, but they just suck in every way but looks.

>>16817275
Looks like someone has a case of bitchitis

>>16830011
>>16829315
enjoy all the plastic under your hood

>>16830028

It is lovely for keeping the engine clean

>>16830011
> Visability
> handling
> engine sound
> cheap parts
> dosnt matter if it leaks everywhere
> RWD feels nicer
> steering isn't fly by wire
> throttle isn't fly by wire
> no cheapy plastic knobs
> no afterthought GPS
> removing seat belt buzzers is as simple as pulling a wire
> dipstick visible when opening bonnet
> boot space
> no suicide air bags

Should I go on?

>>16830064

No... no no.

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>>16830064
>removing seat belt buzzers is as simple as pulling a wire
>no suicide air bags

>>16830073
Seat belt buzzers are annoying as fuck when your driving around on your own land

Also ever heard of Takata airbags?
Shits killed like 18 people or something
> 18 confirmed kills

>>16830064

>dosnt matter if it leaks everywhere

Hahahahahaahh

>>16820477
why Do yo care. Just let people drive whqt they want

>>16830457

They can have whatever they want just acknowledge it is of a very very poor quality for crying out loud.

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>>16821201
>2016 Honda
I was with you on how bad older cars are, but holy fucking shit, new gen hondas are just as bad. That makes you a turd that's yelling at other turds. The only difference is they're pieces of shit that were crapped out decades ago, and you were crapped out last year.

New hondas look like they were designed by a emo weeb who took inspiration from self inflicted cuts he gave himself because his favorite animu isn't getting a second season.

That goes double for the new NSX. I bet that and pic related is your wet dreams, you fucking faggot. You and everyone else who drives this garbage is disgusting.

Old cars are not awful. They offer a very specific experience and, if you like it, you like classic cars.

Their simple nature makes them a better fit for the mechanically-inclined. I, personally, love the satisfaction of turning a wrench and fixing my own problems.

Ultimately, it's like saying white women are hotter than Asian women or black women. It's a preference for an aesthetic and certain traits that go with it.

>>16831028

So you are saying whites are better but some people just like blacks or asians?

It is not a hard concept to grasp that old cars suck compared to new cars aside from a personal aesthetic choice and nothing else

>>16817275
being rich would help

>>16831062
But they're not. Trucks have gotten flimsy, cars have gotten fat, and sports cars are dead. Muh infotainment.

>>16830591
>getting this mad about what someone else drives
lmoa@ ur life

>>16828735
how new are you

>>16830064
>> handling
this is entirely dependant on the car, and if its an american boat, it will handle like one. objectively, cars today have better handling if they are designed for it, especially sportscars and such

>>16830462
imo, if someone is driving something a decade old and it still runs with basic maintenance, then obviously it isnt such low quality.

>>16831062
Whites are undeniably better.

Such is not the case with new cars.

Let's stop with the improper comparisons; for the sake of argument, let's say we have a 2016 Camry SE (the best selling car of last year) and a 1976 Oldsmobile Cutlass (the best selling car of 1976) to see how they stack up.

Camry:
MPG - 25/35
0 to 60 - 8 seconds
Braking Distance: 148'

Cutlass:
MPG - 16/22
0 to 60 - 9 seconds
Braking Distance: 150'

Aside from the Camry handily besting the Oldsmobile in fuel economy, the figures are close enough to say that there isn't significant increase in one area over the other.

Safety means nothing to some; myself included, and gas mileage is no worse on a classic sedan than a modern truck/SUV.

Anything without quantifiable measures is an argument of arbitrary feels and gimmicks.

So muhc poorfag jealousy itt.

>>16831447
Cutlass was a shit car so i don't know why you brought that up anyway.
Even boaters consider the 455 a piece of shit.

>>16831423

We are mostly talking about people daily driving classics like 80s and 70s junkpiles

>>16831763
And yet they still work

>>16831763

That is not the point here

>>16831677
What part of "best selling car of 1976" vs "best selling car of 2016" didn't make sense?

Despite the array of sensors, 3 extra gears in the transmission, the only major difference between the two is fuel economy.

Heck, the Toyota weighs 3,300 lbs and the Oldsmobile weighs 3,700 lbs. I'm sure that the numbers would be even closer if you shaved 400 lbs off of the Oldsmobile.

The fact is that the best selling car of last year and the best selling car of 1976 perform virtually identically except for fuel economy and safety.

>>16817372
>riding the bus

>>16820049
Is it autism if literally everyone but yourself loves it?

>>16831924

Yeah because handling, suspension and fucking SAFETY capabilities are useless

Good luck getting in a collision in your oldsmobile and walking away from it

>>16820477
>tfw Roadmaster with glorious 5.7
Maybe I want to blow your fucking doors off, autismo.

>>16831957

Yeah because your loud ass bumbling guzzler does anything other than be obnoxious on the road, my daily driver is faster, with better economy and would take a hit way better than your "glorious" clunky pile of rust cancer

leave me alone and let me drive my classics in peace

>>16831965
I can't believe how assblasted you are. What, besides a bus, do you drive, chump?

>safer
>than a B Body GM

Oh I am a laffin

>>16831982

Just admit they have nothing going for them other than looks and catering to a preference and we are fine

>>16831987
newer cars blow them out of the water on paper, yes

But classics have more style and even theater to them

you're a cuck if you have a car/loan payment

>>16831924
>best selling
By this logic the Wii was the best console of that generation.

>>16820627
it doesnt look good either, and is probably just as prone to breaking as the old one, for all the wrong reasons.

>>16831999

New cars are lovely, old cars just look nice

That is all yeah

>>16831677
The 455 wasn't even available by that point, stop talking shit about shit you don't know shit about shit. Shit.

>>16834331

gotcha bitch

>>16817297
>Most old cars shared a platform with at least one other thing that had a comfy suspension.
You mean most american cars between 1950-now

"Old cars" is a much larger pool of vehicles than that.

>>16821185
>Korean
>golden decades

pissing myself laughing @ your life

>old cars
>bad gas mileage

I have an 82 that gets 45mi/g on the highway.

>>16835760

A diesel...

>>16817275
>>16817297
Why don't you convert it to CNG?
Tons of people do it, a shop here did even V8 big ass jeeps too.

You get a fucking low consumption, nearly the same amount of power. The only drawback is the reduced storage space in the trunk.

>>16834331
For good reason, sodomite.

>>16836777

Nice trips, but you are a retard

>>16836929
That is a very good reasoning anon. So wise, so smart.
Glad we have such smart people on /o/.

>>16836936

Just replace the motor with like a cummins or something with a bay that big, why turn the car into a fucking fireball ready to explode at any moment?

>>16836959
Fireball how?
No one said you should install a CNG system by yourself, or let some ghetto shop install one.

A proper installation uses a normal verified and tested pressure vessel which will never blow up.
HVAC systems have serious pressures inside of them, but these vessels never ever blow up or break.
Even if the pressure goes up.

It's 100% safe.
About engine durability - I don't know.
There were some concerns, but using quality injectors and whatnot the said shop tested cars for several years now and had no issues.

Seriously, it's not rocket science.
+ Piss cheap fuel.
+ Switchable fuel on the fly, huge range.
- It costs (here) ~1000$ or so to convert a V4, but V6-V8-V12 is not worse, they just add like +100$ / 2 cyl.
- No trunk or less trunk space.

>>16836979

Why would you bother suggesting something like that to someone who is already willing to waste money on their "classic baby" anyway?

>>16837024
Well, let's say you are some young fella, don't have much money, but have a hard-on for older cars...
You can just convert it to CNG/gas and have a cheap running older car.

>>16837028

And if you are in such a position and have a car like OP, the money it would cost in parts and labor would cost more than quite a lot of fuel

Not to mention you ruin part of the value of the car

>>16837032
Nah I drive a shitbox.
I am planning to buy a new used car soon, a wagon, but it will be petrol.
Even though it costs more to fuel, diesel is a fucking bitch.
(all the extra maintenance is far more costly than the petrol price / fuel consumption diff alone)

>>16817275
>no useless """"safety"""" features
>no tech garbage ruining your driving experience
>no plastic fucking everywhere like in modern shitboxes
>easily removable emissions bullshit (no emissions bullshit before the 70's)

>inb4 cucks on /o/ will tell me the shit above is pros & not cons

>>16837042

Why aren't you driving a model T or riding a horse then...

>>16837042
> T H I C C fog
> Going way below speed limit
> Stop sign pops up
> It's already like 50m away from me
> Emergency breaking without ABS
> Push on pedal trying not to lock it
> It just skids and does fuck nothing
> Car literally flies through intersection
Luckily there was no one on the other road, they were like 1km away.

> Front on collision with another car
> Car is totaled
> Feel nothing, not even a shake, a hit, anything
> I get out just fucking fine, like nothing happened

> No cruise control
> Do long trip
> Leg hurts like a motherfucker from holding my foot in the same position

God, I HATE useless tech shit! Ewww!

>>16837070
>> T H I C C fog
>> Going way below speed limit
>> Stop sign pops up
>> It's already like 50m away from me
>> Emergency breaking without ABS
>> Push on pedal trying not to lock it
>> It just skids and does fuck nothing
>> Car literally flies through intersection
Wrong, well adjusted drum brakes can stop quicker than ABS discs.

>>16837112

Okay you get to prove that sort of wild ass claim or be called a liar.

>>16836979
Not an I4?

>>16837142

You could fit an l6 5.9 in that caddie

>>16837163

Just because a vehicle has a large engine bay does not mean you can put whatever in it

>>16837136
Drums have more surface area of braking material than discs. The issue is heat dissipation only.
If you need to slam on the brakes then drums are the way to go, riding drums down a hill is an excellent way to crash however.
Keep in mind most people can't synchronize all 4 drums together so that they get an acceptable braking force.

Also i should point out in some cases locking your brakes may be an effective method of stopping if you don't mind fucking up your tires.

>>16837204
Roadkill put a 5.6l I6 in a Caddie.

>>16837112
Thick fog makes this slimey gooey surface on the road.
I pressed on the brake, not so hard, cause I am used to the no-ABS, and it just skid, nothing.
So I pressed on the gas and picked choice B.

There was NO fucking way to stop it at the STOP sign.
I was only going with 30mph or so.

>>16837261
>Roadkill put a 5.6l I6 in a Caddie.
> tfw I saw a European Ford Kuga with an open engine bay

HOLY FUCK guys.
It looks like a fucking joke.
The engine is so fucking tiny small, it's crazy.

>>16837309
unfortunately wet drums also just do not function whatsoever, i know from experience.

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>>16820453

12 year old car is old

I would be enraged if I wasn't already used to a guy I know IRL that literally scraps his cars as soon as the warranty ends, because "they're outdated"

>mfw death count includes a Mazda 6 MPS
>his current rx-8 is next in line

>>16837335
Bro, if you buy a current-gen car, especially diesel, just fucking sell it.
It starts to have issues at 75k miles. Small ones.
Then some moderate repairs at 95k.
At 125k miles, all hell will break loose.

You can get ~125-150k mile warranty in my country for most cars.
So once that's over, just sell it. That's the best you can do.

With petrol... I don't know. I suspect "fine tuned" engines like EcoBoost may have similar troubles along the line.
Normal petrol should be fine though.

>>16837357

The hell makes a person this ignorant?

>>16837363
Having a fleet of diesel vans and cars?
Maybe?

>>16837381

Tell that to our 2012 and on 6.7 diesels that have 600k miles on them

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>>16837357

I said nothing about them having problems, he literally sends them to the scrapyard because they "are not technologically advanced anymore". Hell the MPS was still mechanically sound afaik.
He's kind of a nutjob about this, something must trigger in his brain that the car is now unsafe, and he's doing the world a favor by not letting anyone else drive it.
Or could be a stupid new-rich asshole attitude, which is common in this kind of people (poortuguese emmigrated in Luxembourg).

Oh and I know diesel very well, this fucking country is littered with them.

Even if you like old cars the same today is true decades ago

Cadillacs look nice, but are garbage functionally

Get a Civic for DD and use your landbarge in the weekends and roadtrips

>>16836777
CNG is a meme. The engine runs on higher temperature, everything erodes faster and fuel economy is much worse (it's cheaper but you fill up much more often) and you lose boot storage. Only if you drive more than 50k kilometers a year is CNG worth it

Op>>16837536
I disagree, functionally they are excellent boulevard cars, not racers, but those caddy 500s can put out some monster power

The fuck is up with people defending this shit?

Are we talking american classics or literally any other classics

Because there is a huge difference in longevity and QC