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WOULD A MIATA MAKE A DECENT OFFROAD CAR

TELL ME

Any of you guys watched the Rudnick live stream? Surprised they even held the event given how fucking cold and shitty it was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJAMBbsIPsk

>>16813253
No, but they might not be bad for rally with a lift kit.

Are the big brake kits worth it? Like the willwoods and shit?

>>16813253
Depends on what kind of offroading you want to do. Miatas are very popular in rallycross, and you don't have to lift them for that. If you want to go on trails with the big boys in jeeps then you'll have some trouble keeping up even with the 3" lift kit.

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>>16813247
what if im 6 foot 4 and 300lbs tho

Here's some reading material if you want to make your car better without just buying the entire Flyin' Miata catalog, or just learn more about stuff. Enjoy.

>Suspension
http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets5.html
http://www.miataturbo.net/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/warning-take-fat-cat-motorsports-spreadsheets-grain-salt-71140/page2/#post1397495
http://www.miataturbo.net/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/better-bilstein-ebay-coilover-thread-78451/
http://www.miataturbo.net/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/miata-bushing-megathread-heirarchy-diy-delrin-dimensions-info-discussion-87573/
http://949racing.com/miata-race-alignment-info.aspx

>Brakes
http://www.miataturbo.net/general-miata-chat-9/anyone-have-any-brake-questions-81577/
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=363284
https://www.blackartgraphics.com/pages/mx5-brake-bias-model
http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/dual-bias-calc/

>Tires
http://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep-75/tire-hierarchy-chat-76811/
http://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep-75/2017-tire-updates-200tw-crew-91658/

>NA Power
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=5704021&postcount=24
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=551662
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=449286

>>16813892

Mind if I shill my buddies company? He makes alot of aero parts for miatas.

http://lrbspeed.com/product-category/mazda/miata/

>>16813521
I'm 6'4 and 260. I wonder how much modification I would need to fit.

>>16813947
>>16813521

I am 210 @ 5'7 and I am starting to kinda max out the lateral space I have (at least comfortably).

>>16814042
i can drive a 2007 civic and a Chevy sonic with no discomfort. are miatas far smaller than subcompact cars interior wise?

really want an na miata as a project car because dem pop ups and rwd

>>16814062

NA Miata is about 20% smaller driver's space than 07 civic. Mostly in headroom and steering wheel height.

>>16814062
the biggest issue you're going to have isn't but just managing your legs. its gonna be right up against the window roller, right against the steering wheel, up against the console, etc....

try it

>>16814071
i guess i can just drive with no roof :(

head is about 2 inches from the roof in my civic

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>>16814062
Why not get an s2k instead?

>>16814138
Because the NC is a better vehicle and usually cheaper, probably.

>But the NC is the worst Miata!
Sure. But what does that say about the S2000 when the NC is objectively superior?

>>16816000
don't be delusional

>>16816000
Unless the s2k is a salvage, there is no "usually" about it. NCs in great shape can be had for under 6k

>>16816262
I'm not. As I've pointed out many tines before, the only advantage that the S2000 has is power from 6,800-9,000 RPM. There is no other metric in which the Miata loses: it's lighter, it's stiffer, it handles better, it's more comfortable, it has more power at any given RPM up to 6,800, it has more usable storage space due to a larger trunk opening and more rectangular trunk space, it's available with a retractable hardtop, and it even has more power potential due to being able to bolt in an Ecoboost engine with the only change necessary being a firewall modification to accommodate the HPFP.

The delusional people are the Honda fanboys who think the S2000 is somehow better than the NC, when it was barely a match for the existing NB Miata (based on a decade old platform) when it was first released.

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>tfw a squirrel chewed a hole through your NA's soft top and a new top costs you a cool $1500

>>16816381
Listen, I am as big of a Miata fanboy as the next, but the S2000 for all intents and purposes is better than a Miata. It retains virtually all of the handling characteristics, suspension geometry, and all in the same roadster package. Oh, and it produces double the power while also revving to 9k.

But that isn't the point. The car costs 2x-3x what a NA/NB/NC does and can easily be matched by simply adding a turbo to the equation

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>>16813255
I was at this event. jfc I have never been so cold in my entire life. It was around 15 degrees but felt like -5 with the wind.

the only Miata there that could perform well was this K20 swapped one

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>tfw no bumper cut

>>16817179
nice.

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How impractical is a miata as a daily driver if I don't regularly have passengers during work and my buddies have sedans so we ride those as a group.

How slow is the NA vs NB?

How expensive is it to add power to a miata?

>>16817013
NC vs S2000 is a bit less clear cut. For what I've put into my NC I could have had a S2000 (though I'd probably end up spending more on mods on the S2000 too). I'm about 20% down on power, but to me things like having a retractable hard top whilst still being lighter and the other stuff that >>16816381 mentioned more than make up for it.

One big difference is that the S2000 is considered a modern classic and has been appreciating in value. But then the question is should I prefer that car just because other people prefer it.

I do like the S2000 digi dash though.

>>16817615
- Pretty practical. Dailying my NA for half a year and couldn't complain.

- Both are slow but NBs 1.8l engine has somewhat more power

- Cheap if you use stickers only

>>16817615
Been dailying my NA for the last few months and honestly have no complaints. I am a manlet so the stock seat is super comfortable for me. Despite the age of the car, there is no insane rattle or shakyness on the highway. Plenty of passing power if needed although I just chill in the slow lane at about 70mph. I sit at around 3.5k-4k rpm in 5th and it's not unpleasant at all.

My biggest complaint right now is that the wind noise with the soft top is pretty bad so it's difficult to listen to music. I really want to add a hard top soon which I hope will reduce wind noise and will also add a little rigidity which will help on windy days.

>>16813247
any good looking bodykists for na or nb?

>>16817978
Hardtop won't do anything for stiffness. It will help wind noise a bit, but adjusting or replacing your window seals will do more.

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>>16818046
There's a couple of great unibody kits out there.

>>16818059
anyones that preserve streetability and the soft top?

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>>16818073
Not really, no.

>>16818085
how about a detatchable windshield on a stock body?

Hey guys, do you think this NA is too much? Miata prices in Tennessee are kinda fucking weird.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/6030078406.html

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is this worth it and how would i fix this shitty capote

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>>16818106
>is it too much

what?! thats perfectly priced. I'd offer $3k and work from there.

>>16818046
What type of areo/body kits are you looking for? Like pic related which is perfect if you are looking for that aggressive japanese drifter style.

>>16818162
looks like dogshit
the miata is all curvy, they just taped a lip all around

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>>16818090
I guess you could buy this car, but you'd probably prefer a brand new Porsche for that price.

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>>16818174
and thats your opinion you are entitled to. ;)

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>>16818176
And windshield off.

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>>16818174
this would be a Miata with a lip all around it.

But of course you wouldnt know that because you are an idiot.

>>16818106
that is a pretty good price. because its a Tennessee car, i am willing to bet it has minimal rust (if any) which is a good thing. i personally hate that color but there are some autists that go ape for that british green + tan interior combo

offer $3k no beeswax tell him youll take it immediately wont even test drive it

Are NBs that bad? Its the only mx-5 I can get in my country with an LSD within my budget

>>16818303
No. Why would you think that?

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>>16818303
NB's are literally better than NA's in every way shape or form

t. NA owner.

buy an NB and enjoy it.

>>16818303
Nope, go for it. Also NA owner here. Biggest reason I had for NA was turbo build and local emissions laws meant the older car is 100% immune and legal. Newer NB would be no good and have to pass emissions and I would have to rip out the Megasquirt to replace with the stock ECU every year. Lots of mods people have to do to the NA are just stock on the NB.

>>16818303
Protip: don't rely on CL ads that say "LSD" in them. Look up what trims came with them and how to identify those trims. LSDs are very common on several years of NA.

>>16818144
Pls guise

>>16819065
>Outside
>Top is up but not latched, presumably broken
Maybe, do you live in a desert?

>>16819089
>Mid Italy
Might as well be
Never snows, but rains sometimes, can It be easily swapped?
I like the convertible, but otherwise i can find an hardtop on the cheap
>also, i'm 6'3". Will i fit?

>>16819221
>also, i'm 6'3". Will i fit?
It will be tight. Your forehead will definitely be at the height of the windscreen frame unless you modify the seat.

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>another week of rain

I just want my convertible feels.

>>16819272
Dunno
I fit in a yaris
I can't imagine a more tight car

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>mfw clutch kick on gentle corner with cold tires

>>16819575
try fitting in a caterham
makes the miata look spacious

>>16816956
>$1500 for a soft top
u wot m8. That's even beyond scalper prices for hard tops. Is that in canadabux or something?

Are NA miatas increasing in price?

>>16820826
Slightly, but that might just be my area

>>16819435
Just shut the fuck up. You have no idea what kind of bullshit I am dealing with here in New England. I patiently sat through the bitter days of February expecting Spring to hit at the beginning of March. The last week of February we got hit with brutally warm weather (65-70F) and I sincerely believed that winter was over.

You know what happened next?

The biggest assfucking I've seen in the last 15 years I have lived here. The weather took a straight nosedive down into the sub 20F with insane wind chills and it's been like this since the beginning of March.

Most of the salt was washed away from the roads from the rain but they just salted the fucking shit out of it again now that we have 14 FUCKING INCHES OF MOTHER FUCKING NIGGER SNOW COMING TOMORROW FUCK YOU GOD YOU PIECE OF SHIT AND NOW THE WEATHER FORECAST AND MY HOONING IS FUCKING ALL LOOKING LIKE SHIT

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>>16820910
I really wish I was somewhere else. It's always cloudy here and cold as fuck.

>>16820948
You gotta get out to Nevada man. It's just beautiful, temperate, and consistent weather year round. It certainly gets cooler in the winter but nothing like New England. You have every type of road a man could possibly dream of. Flawlessly paved, unscathed, wide open desert straights or the twisty roads of the grand canyon, hoover dam, or mt. charleston.

>>16820990
After this year of university I'm either going down to Maryland or Georgia, which should make it a lot better. Since I'm an AeroEng major, I'll probably find myself in the DC metro area or out west in someplace like Nevada, which is comforting.

>>16820990
not the person you replied to but I am also from New England ( Connecticut) and what to move out West

where in Nevada are you from? Maybe I'll say fuck it and get a job at the Tesla Factory.

>>16821038
I am not from Nevada but I visit the Las Vegas area several times a year and have been to the Reno area a few times as well which is where the Tesla factory is located. Both are great areas to live for car enthusiasts but you'll have to learn to deal with the desolation of the desert landscape and literally the same weather year round. Day in, day out, it's just the sun in the cloudless blue sky.

Probably not a good area to live by yourself without knowing any friends/family nearby

>>16821058
>Probably not a good area to live by yourself without knowing any friends/family nearby

What a weird way to think. Why is it not a good idea for you?

Personally I dont get to see family much rn and I make friends easily wherever I go.

>>16821058
>same weather year round
We have 2 seasons (FUCKHOT SUMMER and winter) broken up by mini-season buffers of perfect weather and/or lots of fucking rain. Also the drivers here are truly awful, but if you're from the northeast you're probably used to daily vehicular near-death experiences already.

>>16813247
Is there a way to wind down the electric windows with no power in a mk1? Looking online just keeps throwing manual to powered upgrade guides.
Would it just be a case of removing the door cards and pushing it down by hand?

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>>16818358
This, I love my NB.

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>>16822060
I honestly just want to lower it a tad and then do autox, that's it. The clear coat is so ugly but the car itself is pretty low mileage. I love this car more than anything

Getting a miata to learn 5 speed on hopefully this week :)

I'm so excited yall!

>>16821532
Yeah, probably. The electric motor's don't like to be worked backwards though, so you might as well slide the window out of the rail

>>16818191
>that license plate
>not a baka

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Should I buy a miata or an AW11 for the same price but the MR will need a paint job and rust control

>>16823319
You should be able to find a much nicer aw11 for the price of an average NA.

From experience I can tell you that any kind of "rust control" is the worst fucking thing to do. It's difficult, annoying, and easy to fuck up. Never start with a rusted out chassis. If it's a body panel or whatever that at least can be replaced. In any case, stay away from rust.

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>>16823319
>the MR will need a paint job and rust control

>>16823628
Well no, actually for a running and in order but with body issues AW11 you have to pay around 7K€
You can have a Miata NB in great condition for 5k€

Yeah plus there's something more, I'll have to find a drivetrain and an engine+gearbox for the AW11

>>16823789
Why though, in a few years the MR will value much more wouldn't it ?

>>16823952
damn miatas in America are expensive
In the UK I can get a decent NB for like 1k

So i have a problem i just put a 1.8 in my NA6 and it won't crank at all i hear the fuel pump priming and when i try to hear for the starter clicking i just hear fuel overpowering it, so i can't really hear anything how can i just check the starter easily i already tried smacking the shit outta it, the starter has been sitting for a month without use please help spring breaks here and i wanna take my miata to the beach before its over :(

I'm looking at a miata, but it needs extra force getting out if reverse, should I go for it if I'm broke and won't be able to fix tranny?

>>16824327
Also forgot to mention it's an NA

>>16824327
>extra force getting out if reverse
Are you fat, forklift? elaborate what does this mean, you needa thrust it into gear? or higher rpms?doesn't want to go into reverse? grinds?

>>16824107
I don't know about the US but I live in France and Japanese cars are overpriced and rare here because of a ban during the 80's - 90's

>>16824347
Seller didn't say. Just says it has trouble getting out if reverse and would need extra force

>>16824347
Reread, he just said it gets stuck

>>16824352
>>16824356
if it does get "stuck" and its a 1.6 it might just be the reverse light switch problem and its a easy fix

>>16824376
How would I go about fixing that and how would i ask the seller if that's what it might be. It's a 91 with I think a 1.6, and they said it has a new clutch and was rebuilt.

>>16824327
It's a 1.6, right? The early transmissions had a problem where they could slip a fork and get stuck in reverse, and the dealership fix made pulling the car back out of reverse really stiff. It won't cause you any other problems, just give it a good whack to get out of gear.

>>16824382
Yeah, it's a 1.6. so if it needs extra push to get out of reverse when shiftedto I should be good and not worry about my tranny crapping out?

>>16824381
https://www.miata.net/garage/stuckreverse.html
>>16824393
if your saying this it's probably not the above problem then if it just needs a extra "push"

>>16824393
Yeah, that just means it has the preventative fix done by the dealership. Apparently it's questionable how effective the fix is, but the actual problem itself is fairly rare and it's unlikely that your transmission would be affected if it's gone this long without shitting itself.

>>16824395
Yeah that doesn't seem to be like anything he's talking about.

>>16824442
Alright so if I get it I should be good, and just probably have some muscle building.

>>16824444
No, it is.
>The deletion of these washers is a factory attempt to increase the detent spring force by increasing the compression of the detent spring.
If you ease it out of reverse slowly it can get stuck in reverse. The fix tightens up the reverse detent so it's impossible to ease it out, you have to slap it out.

>>16824473
Yeah, just give it a sharp whack with the heel of your palm. You'll get used to it.

>>16824474
Sweet. Thanks.

>>16824266
It's probably the battery. If it's the the battery, you wired in the starter wrong. If it's not the wiring, you have a bad starter.

>>16822828
Have fun!

I have a miata that I bought for 1000 bucks. It's shit but drives. What do to make it rally ready? I wanna tear shit up. Also how do you dry the seats. They're soaked

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Coolant reroute is in the mail. My journey into wrenching begins here.

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>>16824678
Post feet

>>16824655
>Also how do you dry the seats. They're soaked
Your best bet is taking them out of the car and putting them somewhere mildly warm in your house for a few days, like a radaitor.
Alternatively, wait till it's summer and park the car top down in the sun for a day^^

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>>16820810
str8 burger bro. 1500 is for the nicest fabric one with glass window & defroster. Cheapest ive found anywhere is 850 for vinyl/plastic window.

>>16824678
That's a long reroute.

>>16824687
>Washington in rainy season.
Fug
What's a good way to sit on wet seats and not be wet?

>>16824777
Nude is one option.
Checked

>>16824794
I have a wetsuit. Would that work? How much damage can water do? MY roof leaks

>>16824530
Your m8tie, thanks i took the starter out and took it to autozone and its bad, should get one by Wednesday hopefully

>>16825155
If there's a starter/alternator shop near you, you can probably bring it in and have it rebuilt today.

>>16824750
at $1500 you might as well buy a hardtop.

>>16825193
Nah i really never looked but i guess its too late now though... hopefully this is the only problem i'm gonna run into

>>16824750
Bargain bin tops are $350, not $850. Are you shopping at dealerships or something?

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brump

Two questions:
Where are you supposed to put the hardtop if you want the roof open?


Why did you buy a convertible?

>>16826708
They actually come with a wall mount holder thingy from the factory. But most people just put them on blocks of wood or some shit

I didn't even care it was a convertible. I bought it cause I wanted something fun and engaging to drive. The convertible aspect was just a bonus (I didnt realize this until I actually flipped the top down)

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Bought a miata 4:40 friday evening, flipped it coming down the mountain 1t 1:20 am saturday morning no more miata. Not even a full 12 hours.
now i need to buy this shitty dodge intrepidas a daily till i can afford another. Worst weekend of my life guys...

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>>16827119
Elaborate

>>16827119
>>16827138
>Elaborate

This. Were you trying to dagumi on 10 year old tires?

>>16827119
pics

>>16826730
>I didnt realize this until I actually flipped the top down

absolutely retarded

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>>16827138
finnaly got my rx7 sold and went to go check out this nice black 95 with 125k miles on it. bought it for 2200, kinda noticed the steering pulling a bit right but I out it off out of excitment and wanting to deal with it later. About 5:30 showing it to some friends and go up the local mounatin and drive down fine (even beat my best time in my rx7 by 27 seconds) well considering the 1st time up and down was fine I had kind assumed it was alright o be driving it if I dont go too far beyond my limits in a new car especially. Well late that night at 1 my friend and I get in the car and gonna take the lower easy mountain pass to del raco but I decide to go up the harder section for some reason... its going fine until I get to one corner that becomes one of the higher speed sections. I overspeed and try to adjust my speed by slowing down in a straight line, well since the allignemt was slightly off me holdinh the wheel straight was actually just 1 degree right which cause us to go up the side of the mounatin to the right and after some of that it flips, we slide for 40 or so ft, I get out and pull my friend out and 5 hours later I go back up and inspect the situation. Feel free to ask more or if i missed anything, still kinda fucked from the crash.

>pic related, lucky to be alive

>>16827159
tires were great, falken azenis. brakes were good too. alignment and me not being adjusted to the car enough were major factors.

>>16827202
how can a rx7 be slower than a (presumably) stock NA

>>16827202
>>16827202
why the shitty pic

do you have autism?

post a normal pic of it you clown

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>>16827202
god damn you guys this thing was so nice. im so disappointed in myself to have done this.
:''(

>>16827233
well im a failry good driver most of the time so getting rid of the 500 extra opounds the rx7 was carrying only for a 50 hp loss only made my driving faster. which is why i bought the thing...

>>16827243
fuck you, thats from the night of the crash right before i got put in the ambulance. if you cant tell what it is from that you have autism my dude.

>>16827202
If you're not 15 you need to reevaluate your risk-assessment skills, life choices and start doing some autocross before you get wicked on the toe-gay.

>>16827276
1st accident isn't gonna deter me, sorry. I will build a new one and be up there even more, its all I know. Wont give it up, you can but I wont let this stop me. A race car driver will experience an accident, if he doesn't he inst a race car driver.

>>16827306
you aren't a race car driver either by the sounds of it

>>16827355
Just watch then, you dont know anything from across the screen. I certainly cn say you are farther and will stay farther from becoming one than I have ever been.

>>16827202
>>16827246
i didnt know you could roll a soft top and walk away with your head attached. Gr8 story m8.

>>16827390
fine i won't shit on you for crashing a miata because one day i might too, but you don't know anything from across the screen either. and i have driven some race cars as it happens.

>>16827410
dude thats one of the most insane parts of it man. No roll bar either!
My theory is since it was sliding slightly down hill and the force of the car was thrown more towards the front of the hoddd towards the bumper it kept the rear slightly lifted up until it stopped for me to pull myself out.

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>>16827390
>>16827306
Oh ok so you are actually retarded. So nvm just disregard any honest advice given because you are a full dunning-kruger autist and muh anime dagumi skillz.

>>16827202
>holdinh the wheel straight was actually just 1 degree right which cause us to go up the side of the mounatin
What the fuck did I just read? You steered into a mountain and somehow it's because your steering wheel is aligned 1/360th to one side?
Protip: don't buy another vehicle. You and the bus were made for each other.

>>16827423
neither of us should be hostile, youre right it could have happened to any one of us if were doing similar stuff. Hope you dont have to deal with it man, at least hope you have a roll var unlike me haha

>>16827448
well cosnidering you dont understand how a wheel alignemt works i think youre projecting. let me break it down easy for you buddy. If im trying to brake in a stright line, holding the wheel straight but the alignment is off sho stright on the steering wheel is actually slight right hard braking would exaggerate it. Do you not understand how a cars alignment n and steering wheel can be off from one another?

>>16827444
You don't know what you're even talking about you fool. What kind of advice could you even give, nothing because you've never dealt with this. You sit there and type like you do shit while people like me are actually out in the real world.

>>16827233
FBs have wagon axles and FCs weigh close to a thousand pounds more and don't actually make any more power stock.

>>16827478
I don't get why you're pointing the wheel straight ahead instead of pointing the tires straight ahead. Surely you're capable of telling that you're getting closer to the mountainside and adjusting the wheel to compensate.

>>16827503
the fc was the heaviest car iver ever owned too which is mainly why I wanted to sell it, going back to something lighter was so nice for a while, cant wait to build another one!

>>16827202
This has got to be a troll. Bread on hood, please.

>>16827457
>>16827478
>>16827494
Holy shit this is gold.

>crashes his miata the first day
>but it totally wasn't his fault guys because it was the alignment that I couldn't correct or foresee that pulled me off the road!!
>b-b-but I'm totally a race car driver guys!!

You realize a lot of the people in this thread track miatas and get hektik on back roads right? We just don't have sever delusions of grandeur like yourself.

>>16827517
first 6 hours in the car, first time having power steering, first time going back to a short wheelbase after over a year of a longer one. Considering all my other times doing that section in any of my past cars its been my instinct to hold the wheel straight to brake quickly in a straight line so thats why my instinct were to do the same in the miata. By the time I was trying to react it was too late and it was going a tad too far right o recover from.

>>16827539
When did i say i wasnt responsible?
I just explained what made the car do what it did mechanically and admitted it was me. You seem to have missed the point about being a race car driver though, maybe due to autism but nevertheless ill explain it better for you. The "career" of being a race car driver is bound to have a crash or 2 in it if you are actually doing it often and as hard enough in the first place, if I let a crash stop me from following my dream then I shouldn't have got into it in the first place. An accident is promised if youre really getting somewhere, you've probably just never been close to it before.

>>16827545
What even is straight? It's not like you whipped out a protractor to ensure that the wheel was indeed pointed directly ahead and not ever so slightly to one side or another. I suppose I could understand it if the wheel was wildly off center by like 45 degrees, but claiming you drove into a mountain because your car was pointed ever so slightly toward it and you couldn't figure out how to steer away is fucking retarded.

>>16827573
Lol no I've never had an crash within a day of owning my car. That honor is reserved for a 15-year-old in his new Mustang and you apparently.

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>>16827545
>>16827573
>stock 1995 miata brakes work so well and so fast that you couldnt not drive up a mountain and flip it

youre a shit driver bud. and youre lucky to still have a head

>>16827591
kek

>>16827588
straight is when the front wheels are straight which on the sterring wheel is actually turned left a tad. IF you've ever raced down a mountain around a corner into a longer straight section you don't understand how quickly you need to be on the brakes to get any real braking done. It was a slight left so coming around at high speeds meant i did the corner perfect, came to the straight carrying all my speed but since the steering wheel was held straight instead of slightly left I carried all that speed into my braking which was angled into the side of the mountain to my right.

>>16827591
stick to youre shit boxes and country roads bud. keep up the bench racing too. You can never understand it and Im glad you cant, someone as stupid as you shoudlnt be racing a car. Leave it to me.

>>16827613
werent the stock brakes but from that shitty reply I could tell how little you know about cras hahaha the braking force comes from the rubber on the tires, pads only there to slow down the wheels. Figure out what parts of your car do what.
oh trust me. I know im a better driver than you, thats for sure. I doubt there is even a mountain road within a 100 miles of your house

>>16827627
>which on the sterring wheel is actually turned left a tad.
Yes, but the steering wheel position is irrelevant and impossible to check unless it's off by a large amount.
>IF you've ever raced down a mountain around a corner into a longer straight section you don't understand how quickly you need to be on the brakes to get any real braking done.
I have, which apparently means I don't understand.
>but since the steering wheel was held straight instead of slightly left I carried all that speed into my braking
What is this even supposed to mean?

>>16827645
are you seriously saying that? you can let go of the steering wheel while driving in a straight line, and see if it has a bad alignment or not by it turning on its own, how do you not know that?
Means exactly what it says, i came through a corner fast carrying a lot of speed. All of the momentum of the very fast braking threw the car way off balance and the shit alignment was magnified by all of that sending it right before I could correct it.

>>16827645
>Yes, but the steering wheel position is irrelevant and impossible to check unless it's off by a large amount.
?

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>>16827644
the more you post the more i wish your carcass was still embedded in that road

>>16827644
the delusion lel
I've held a scca license for 9 years, road raced for 8 and have done 20+ hpde events

ive crashed but never flipped a car on public roads

you cant drive and flipped a car on public roads


>>16827703
yea the kid should be a bit more humble about a near death experience that was totally his fault

>>16827703
I can tell youre getting mad, hopefully you realized how little of value you have to say about this considering how little experience you actually have in this field. Go out, do some more driving and hopefully get in a roll over crash!

>>16827714
If you have had so much experience then you should know a crash couldn't deter someone who is following that path too.
No i certainly can drive, how could you possibly think thats at all a quality judgment from a single crash, thats stupid to come to a conclusion from that.

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>>16827644
>stick to youre shit boxes and country roads bud. keep up the bench racing too.

Lol I track a miata NB (unflipped as of this writing). Stay delusional lol

>I doubt there is even a mountain road within a 100 miles of your house

jesus the muh towgay meme is getting worse and worse. Seriously stop watching anime and filling your head with sugarplum fantasies of being dagumi, there's 10000 kids like you in miatas doing the same thing right now, we see them every weekend.

>>16827757
You really dont get it then. stick to the track bud never get to any real limit. Really cant wait to beat people like you on or off the track.

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Is it worth the money to let a company tackle the rust on my NA 89 and sand down the exterior so it can be sprayed/wrapped?

I really like my mx5, but I'm not sure if I should commit to it or get a different car.

The issue is that I want to change a few things like suspension, brakes etc but I don't want to invest money if my mx5 dies on me.

What do you guys think?

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>>16827729
>lol u have no experience in the field of apeshit hooning down a mountain in an unfamiliar, unproven car.

Like i said, part of me wishes you bought the farm if for no other reason than to keep the rest of the innocent miats alive

>>16827202
You know, part of me wants to believe that this is just a troll since I see no conceivable way of surviving a flip in a soft-top (and also this being 4chan and all) but a few months ago I saw someone exactly like you in the /dbt/ threads with a Ninja 250. Anything is possible I suppose

>>16827777
>track and toe-gay are mutually exclusive and no one can do both
>muh anime dangerous pass meme
>t. someone who has only ever raced against a clock

Yeah nah. Seriously you have to be under 16

>>16827834
they are completely different scenarios with wildly different variables that come into play. You guys really do get caught up too much in itial d and thast the difference between em adn you, it only inspired me its not at all a factor in what im doing years after watching it. Ive been doing this for 5 years, 6 come this july and thats the only type of course iver ever known so I really would say I have more credibility specifically for touge racing. I get that most of you autists arent able to separate intial d and the touge from one another but trust me, you need to if you are ever to begin understanding it. I agree intial D kills kids but thats only if they get locked in that story instead of taking it into their own hands to learn and grow.

>>16827828
Flipping a Miata isn't necessarily a death sentence; even when the windshield frame collapses it provides a fulcrum that the engine levers over to raise the cabin. You won't be pancaked, but you can still hit your head hard enough to be killed.

>>16827898
yea seems to be designed pretty well with that in consideration, got a 1 1/2 x 4 inch bald spot now, 4 stitches in my right palm and some road rash. Not much else besides that. Would've been less had I had a roll bar.

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>>16827893
>been doing this 6 years
>You guys really do get caught up too much in itial d and thast the difference between em adn you, it only inspired me its not at all a factor in what im doing years after watching it.
>I agree intial D kills kids but thats only if they get locked in that story instead of taking it into their own hands to learn and grow.

this can't be real. Am I being rused?

>>16828055
Just stay online anon, ill stick to driving though.

>>16828116
>ill stick to driving though

Your scalp is sticking to the road because you thought you could drive like an anime lel

>>16828134
thats was too easy of a joke, knew an autist like you couldnt resist, think something moreclever next time and learn to not make a judgment off a single crash. Thats just stupid to do so.

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>>16828209
>when they pretend to see it coming

>>16824750
300 bucks on mossmiata.com nigga do you even google

>>16816274
where can i find an NC for under 6k

Thinking about buying ND, but I would be giving away half of my monthly income for 3 years. Is this too much? Half of my pay is still more than a minimum wage.

>>16830283
>half your pay on your car
no.

Unless you live with your parents and don't pay for food/rent/etc....

>>16830333
750 for mx5
130 for rent (i live in a shithole but i kinda like it)
that leaves me with 620 for food and living. i also have free lunches at my job.

at the end of the month i will be still saving about 300 a month and i wouldn't be exactly living on a bread and water (living expenses are cheap in my country).

>>16830380
Maybe consider a higher down payment to lower that monthly cost. I'd shoot for a $500 monthly payment with your conditions. It's better to have extra cash just in case. Also take into account service costs and gas on the car

>>16817013
This, NB looses out easily to an s2000 but they're hardly comparable cars based on price.


Also since when could you easily ecoboost swap an NC? are you talking about duratec? It's not THAT easy a swap really.

>>16830540
Ecoboost is a Duratec with a turbo.

>>16830543
I worked it out, the ecoboost doesn't fit RHD cars which is why i've never seen it.

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>>16830548
Is there really that little clearance to the rack? The turbo doesn't take up that much room...

>>16830568
The ecoboost is also a pretty expensive engine to buy atm.

>>16830568
the 2.5 is a common swap here in aus

http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67063

1990 miata 5 speed. 160k

What do I need to look for? What's common issues I need to look for?

>>16830598
You can buy an average condition NC and give it a brand new 0 miles crate engine for just $2000-3000 more than a similar condition S2000. Remember that the NC was already the superior car with 165 horsepower; the S2000 gets completely blown out against 310.

https://lmr.com/item/M600723T/ford-performance-23-ecoboost-crate-engine-m-6007-23t

>>16830609
Short nose crank, reverse gate fix, and it's probably getting close to timing belt and water pump time. Plus all the stuff you'd normally check for.

>>16830609
how much does it cost?

>>16813247
Why are mazdas so unreliable?

Also which Miata will be best for taking my wife's kid to school every day?

>>16830659
>mazda
>unreliable
>the king of dirt cheap low displacement engines that outlast the frame of the vehicle
>the only company to bring one of the most unreliable and fuel inefficient engines into a commercially viable and somewhat practical package
>the only company to pioneer a way to literally turn a gasoline engine into a diesel engine by running such high compression

Mazda is one of the GOAT manufacturers buddy. They aren't unreliable. The only thing you can hate on them for is not creating a proper performance vehicle yet

>>16830619
Here in ausfag land that's not the case at all

an s2k is 15-20, an early shitty nc starts at 12-14

Even in the case of your 7k crate motor i'd expect a minimum of 3k on extras, and that's at murrica prices, to do something like that here would be 40k to get road legal including the car.

Easier to put down 15 for a well preparted turbo miat at around 250 horse.

>>16830700
Over here, an NC in the same condition as a $15-17k S2000 costs $6-8k, and there's no legal shit required except in CA and NY, where you need to get a sticker that will costs under $100.

Sucks that Australia hates horsepower, I guess you'll just have to make do with a car that's better than the S2000 in every way but one.

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going thru search tempest just randomly finding Miata's on Craigslist

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/6019339843.html

not bad for seattle i guess

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https://boulder.craigslist.org/cto/6043681500.html

this nigga smokin THAT stronk ass colorado crack

>>16832013
Seems pretty okay. Highish miles and a 1.6 though.

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https://terrehaute.craigslist.org/cto/6032510437.html

>>16832055
>muh parts and labor costs
I fucking hate craigslist

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>>16832091
I'm emailing him now

>>16816274
I'd sell you mine for 6k if i hadn't dumped money into simple mods for it. At current exchange rates I'd even make a profit

Unrelated, just saw a 124 abarth for the first time [spoiler]while waiting for my bus[/spoiler]. I still don't know if i prefer it to the ND, it looks striking but the styling is a bit fussy with its colored hood and red accents

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>>16832150

>>16832055
>Adult-owned and tastefully upgraded - no boy racer abuse/mods

proceeds to list shit tons of boy racer mawds

HUEHUEHUE

>>16832150
>$20,000 built 150 race hour engine
>$9,000 custom fabricated 18- point roll cage
>FIA 8862-2009 carbon/kevlar containment seats, $5,000 each
>One-off custom engineered pushrod actuated suspension using NOS titanium housing rotary dampers from Ferrari's 2005 F1 car

>Eh, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it.
Fucking jalopshit.

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>>16832150
Ok technically that articles points are correct and I agree with the sentiment, but you just sent a jalopnik doug demuro article to some poor guy. Nobody can even read half of one of his nerd faggot paragraphs without wanting to end it.

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I'm in San antonio, Texas and I genuinely can't figure out why NA miatas are cheaper than NBs here. I thought NBs were considered the cheapest miata

https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/6037917583.html

this is the one i'm thinking about.

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>>16812303
fucking this.
can yall quit sperging about this now

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>>16832349
Sure but usually the mods are something more like pic related (an actual ad from my area, written in spanish only)

Other than all the fake vents/body work he also wrapped the radiator in red electrical tape

>$5000

>>16832445
*radiator hose

>>16832445
That's an example of mods that don't make the car better in any way. Of course they won't add any value if all they do is make the car slower and uglier. Anything that makes the car better is worth money, though.

>>16832369
>90s cars are cheaper than 2000s cars
You don't say? Anyway, the car you're looking at is a basket case. Don't go anywhere near it.

>>16832515
Sure IF they objectively make the car better and he has receipts on any major engine work done. If he doesn't it's a total gamble on what his work is like.

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>>16832526
well yeah but i thought miata enthusiasts had a bigger boner for NAs than NBs.
Also thanks for the advice.

>>16832055
hahahaha that guy is fucking delusional. not as bad as this though (guy started at $11,500 lmfao)

https://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/6026267778.html

>>16832537
Sure. I just hate all this "mods never ever ever add any value and usually subtract from it" bullshit. The right mods add value, and although it's basically impossible to make a profit off of it, a return of 80+% of the money spent on mods isn't unreasonable if you know what you're doing.

>>16832607
This car, for example, has reasonably okay mods that make his car better. The problem is, there's not more than $3000 worth of them there, which means he's trying to sell a 1.6L Miata for $7,000 and $3,000 worth of mods for $3,000. If we were to go with a more reasonable $2,200 for a clean NA6 and 80% return on his mods, the car would be less than half of his current asking price.

>>16832683
Agreed. Most of that article comes from Doug Demuro not wanting to modify anything because of his inate jewish fear of doing labor himself instead of paying someone.

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>>16832778
BEGONE U ANTI SEMITE

OY VEY DIS IS ANUDDA SHOAH

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>>16832908
>>16832913
The shroud just doesn't work in an NA. Exposed doritos look so much better.

>>16832969
>stripping an innocent rotary so you can rape it with your eyes

lewd

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>>16833000
I know, I'm a terrible person.

>>16832372
Autocross is hardly a good test for this

Besides, have you driven a miata with steeleys? It fucking sucks.

>>16832969
Other than the cool factor, why rotary swap, why Renesis over 13b? A turbo BP8 will likely perform better.

>>16833100
but a turbo BP8 doesnt make 235hp stock.

>>16833100
>Because it's cool
>Because at some specific power targets it's actually cheaper than a turbo BP
>Because brapbrap, motherfucker
>Because a 13B weighs 100-350 pounds less than a BP depending on power levels
>Because doritos
>Because rotaries are legendarily reliable for racing
>Because why not?
Take your pick. Renesis a shit, though. Side ports are cancer.

>>16833125
>>Because a 13B weighs 100-350 pounds less than a BP depending on power levels
I meant to include how much money you throw at it, as well. A 350 pound lighter 13B (compared to a big turbo BP) would cost easily upwards of $12,000 just in parts.

>>16833032
>>16832372

the tire has a lot to do with it too. you're going to notice a difference going from 205s to 185s + wheel weights

>>16833155
I've driven with 195/50s on steelies then had them put on my mazdaspeed ms02s, which aren't even particularly light and the difference was immense.

Alright fags, I want to get a car for open track day and because it's the one the makes more financial sense I decided to get a Miata. I've been looking at different miatas for sale on different websites and the price difference between an NA and NB is not that big. Which one should I get and why? I intend to use this car on a track only and never on a road. I also don't care too much about speed but I definitely want it to be fun.

>>16833732
Get a NB for sure. try and find one with a roll bar already installed. You'll be good to go out of the gate

>>16813247
I really like Miatas, but I'm 6'2" and have very long legs. How much modification is required and how much more space can be added?

>>16834064
google is your friend.

https://www.miata.net/garage/foamectomy/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nz-1Lsutl0

Just got a mr2 instead of a miata
How does that make you guys feel

>>16834081
indifferent

>>16834081
I like mister toos as well, friend. Enjoy your new-to-you car.

>>16834081
which gen? MR2s are sick, I almost got a corolla fx16 instead of my miata

>>16833100
A Renesis makes 260hp na, is bullet proof as fuck (lasts SEASONS in star mazda before any noticeable loss in compression), and will clock 200k on the odo
Unlike a turbo BP that you are afraid to bounce off the limiter, or take anywhere near...

>>16834081
You have my condolences.

>>16834081
>mfw these faggots constantly try and turn our thread into some mr2 vs mx-5 debate when in reality everyone here loves the mr2 and would get one in a heartbeat if they had the money and room for it and also this is all implying that the mx-5 and mr2 are 1:1 exchangeable vehicles price wise when they arent really.png

>>16824349
I didnt know about this, why were they banned?

>>16834269
To keep their domestic manufacturers in business

>>16834300
>>16834269

liberals in action

>>16834128
>Renesis
>260hp

>>16834190
why