Miata General - /mg/

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>>16784433

theres another thread already

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oh shit i didnt see it

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white folcc crazy tbqh

>>16784437
Best colour

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>>16784679
t-t-thanks

>creates his own miata general despite seeing that there was another one before his
>pathetically bumps it

lol

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>>16784803
I have no idea what you are talking about.

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hello it me

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>>16785300
also have this photo in a landscape if anyone wants it

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>>16785309

How much fender rolling do I need to do to get something like a 15x7.5" +0 rim to fit on my NA?

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>>16784646
>>16785309

Fuck. I love the NA way too god damn much.

>>16785364
Mild roll if you're low, probably not necessary if you're anywhere near stock height. 8s would take a flat roll.

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Garage Vary NB8C

>>16784679
White with a black hardtop is best.

>>16784441
bump limit

>>16784433

m80s

tell me

I have a Mazda3 2015. Looking to get a 2017 Miata RF because it looks sexy as fuck and I'm rapidly closing in on the age/time in life where buying a sports car is not practical. I thought about Americna muscle, but I just don't like the look and the fact that most turds have American muscle.

Anyway, 2017 Miata RF, anyone have experience with it? I can't seem to find comparison picks of with/without appearance package.

>>16783198
Stock tires are 16x6.5, JR3s are 16x7, I'm euro so the only tire size I can mount is 205x50r16 so I guess I can't get 16x8 rims. Stock height for now yes. Do you think I still have to work the fenders with 16x7 +40?

>>16783233
I'm not that stupid
5x114 gunmetal are available on this site, are they lying?
https://www.cerchishop.com/16/4757-japan-jr3-70x16-gun.html

>>16787056
>"""Japan"""
>"""Racing"""
I have no idea how much 125 Es is, but I'm guessing it's way more than a shitty polish cast wheel is worth.

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>>16787078
Pls no bully
Not gonna buy used rims, and I want a 5/6 spokes with the outer spoke part bending into the inside. 500 a set is a fair price and they look sexy

>>16787153
At least get "real" Rotas instead of slavshit knockoffs of chinkshit knockoffs of flipshit knockoffs of the same Volks literally every ricer since the dawn of time has on their car.

>>16787165
Rotas are out of budget but thanks for the suggestion.

>>16787173
>Rotas are out of budget
Sorry bro, I guess you can't afford wheels then. Come back once you've mowed a few lawns.

>>16787173
>can't afford Rotas

lmao

>>16787181
>>16787839
I can afford them but I'm not gonna drop a grand for new rims for this shitbox I'm not even sure I'm gonna keep for more than 2 years.
Also fuck me for replying

>>16787969
>thinking $1k for wheels are a lot.

wew lad, cancerous people like you are why these shitty replica companies thrive

>>16787978
Are you trolling?

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>>16788005
>he legitimately thinks $1k for wheels is expensive & replicas are ok

shiggy diggy

>everything in pic related probably worth more than your house

>>16788005
he's either trolling or retarded, so the point is a bit moot. anything he says can be safely disregarded.

Hey /o/,

my shitbox on coilovers is getting really rusty, so I am considering to sell all the valuable parts and buy Miata.
Never drove any. I want bumby harsh ride, preferably without power steering and abuse that car, will NB satisfy my needs ?

>>16788067
Pretty much any car will do that if you rip out the factory PS and slam it on cheap coilovers?
Why a Miata specifically.

>>16785395
*how to get a boyfriend
FTFY

>>16787978
>thinking $1k for wheels are a lot.
Not a lot actually but in case of a miata it's probably 1/4 of the price of the whole car

>>16788082
My coilovers wasnt that cheap, they are just superstiff because of really low clareance.
and Miata because, I saw few videos people stating that NA can be only driven hard or something along those lines

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>>16788092
>but in case of a miata it's probably 1/4 of the price of the whole car

I bought my na miata for $3500

anyways people spending parts that cost more than their car isnt something new or crazy. but go ahead by shitty replica parts.

pic related are TE37's and cost around $2k-$2.5k for a set.

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>>16788042
>I put $4k worht on wheels on my 3k Miata
>I am a smart person

Guess what, forged wheels on a miata are not smart. The first rock chip on them means they are worth shit.

Even if you tell me that you go racing, they're still not necessary. What wheels do you think they run in Spec Miata? TE37s? No, they run $135 cast wheels. pic related.

Stop being retarded, people who blow $4k on wheels for a shitbox are about as dumb as you can get.

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Does anyone know where I can get NA center caps? All the ones I can find are stupid expensive.

>>16788964
Your best bet is probably buying a used set of chipped or damaged OEM wheels with center caps for as cheap as you can find.

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>>16788964
For the daisies no idea, the later wheels on the NA have a more reasonable sized center cap though. Honestly look for a set of these, they're lighter and look better imo. You can probably get a nice set for around $100

>>16789083
That wouldn't satisfy my autism. My rims have a channel that runs around the center of the rim for caps to snap into. I would never be happy with anything else.

>>16789152
Then I'd do like the other guy said, find someone with some daisies and call to see if they'll sell you the caps. Or just pay extra to get them off ebay or something.

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Anyone know where i can get a set of wheels similar to this? I love the look of them. And would really wanna put some of these on my 93 NA

>>16789204
You can either look at some genuine OZ Rally Racing wheels, which will run you a hefty chunk of change, or something sorta similar which are some BBS wheels with the turbofan covers, replicas of course. The other option is to buy some vintage OZ wheels which will also be expensive, but maybe will give you a more reasonable rim size, the new ones start at 17 inches

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>>16789204
Zenders are similar. The VW fanbois might have ruined the prices though.

>>16789204
Sparco terra

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>>16789204
why dont you say it, you want a shitty quality replica set of wheels.

>>16787969
They're like 600 eurobucks for a set. How fucking poor are you?

>>16788092
He drives an NC.

>>16789253
How do you convert 4 bolts to 5? All my stuff is bolt ons.

>>16789444
I'd pay decent money for a set of wheels if they're the wheels Im looking for

>>16787181

Says the guy driving a Miata

>>16789495
There was some talk of a a 5 lug conversion kit being developed, but I haven't heard anything since. Your best bet is either to find something 4 lug (the OZ wheels have a 4 lug option)

>>16789444
>all reps are bad
>you'd better be willing to shell out $2k for some used wheels

guess what, not all reps are chinese knockoffs. something close to the original wheel design, without costing an arm and a leg is perfectly acceptable. Your car is putting down at most 300hp to the wheels with a built engine and turbo, you're not going rallying with your car. Buying some original OZ wheels is nice if you have the means, but don't act like they will be the difference between life and death on a daily.

>>16788136
>tfw at about 1:1 on mod cost to car cost
Yes it's nothing new or crazy but i had this odd moment of realization

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>>16785395
thx

>>16789553
t. poorfag

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>>16790143
i like this shot a lot and idk why

>>16789512
At least I didn't blow all of my money on a cuck-tier NC and then trade my food stamps for shitty polak cast fakes for maximum street cred when my buttbuddies and I go out hard parking.

>>16790153
My house is worth more than everything you own combined

>>16790153
t. Miata driver

>>16785300
Can I get this in higher res?

>>16790223
me on the left

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>>16790309
What size do you need?

>>16792093
350

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I want this bad.

Does anyone have 6ULs?

Can you use hammer weights on them or are they sticky weights only?

I really hate sticky weights.

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This happened today.

>>16792372
mine arrives this Sunday. Pretty hyped. looks gorgeous up close and in person. go test drive one for kicks man

>>16792600
fuck that sucks.

im assuming you were putting the top down and it ripped right

>>16792600
F

Have fun replacing that. It took me 3 days to replace my convertible top because I got the $150 ebay one. Don't get those.

Replaced up and lower shift boots under 3 years ago with OEM

Both are destroyed.

Is there a better than OEM option?\

>Jass Performance
Expensive and only the upper boot (Which is arguably less important) (125 for upper boot)
>Mx5Doctor
Lower boot looks stronger, upper boot is trash ($100)
>5X Racing race kit
OEM quality ($180)
>I.L Motorsports
Appears to be the same as OEM quality, also expensive once shipping is included ($140)
>OEM
Broke after less than 3 years last time, hardly worth the money at that rate ($130)

>>16792600
Time for a canvas top with glass window. Just make sure you get one with a zipper so you can put it down with the bar there.

>>16792620
Is this for an NC or something? Or with shipping to Australia?

>>16792617
I'm having the same issue, i can't find any instructions which match my top and it doesn't seem to have the slip over bits for the b pillars?

Any ideas

>>16792635
Shipping to ausfailia

Regular old 5 speed.

Seriously are you guys all just using OEM and replacing every few years?

>>16792658
Get one of those $50 short shifter kits. It comes with all the plastic bushings, and the short throw is definitely worth it. It feels amazing. For the lower boot, get one for the NC. It fits the same and they're a lot cheaper for some reason. Only source I've got for the upper boot is 5xracing, so I guess just get one of those universal rubber accordion boots to replace it and the leather boot at the same time.

>>16792609

Cool. I've been trying to find a picture of the appearance package, with no luck.

>>16792609


Post here when you get it, pls. Pics!

>>16792093
Can you do it 4k long?

>>16786614
slower and heavier, looks amazing but no potential for more power atm.
any extra packages that aren't for performance are a waste

>>16792699
NC fits too? That's interesting.

Not so interested in a short shifter though, i feel like the shifter is already quite short and well positioned.

>>16785395
Cyuuuuut3

>>16793489
The are some turbo kits in development
200hp at crank is possible without going FI
http://www.bbrgti.com/product/bbr-mx-5-nd-super-200/

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Some guy bumped my right mirror by accident and now I can't place it like it was before.
This is disturbing

>>16794448
thats fucked lad

>>16793529
Short shifter kits don't cut down the length of the rod, they raise the pivot point. The knob stays at the same height but the length of the throw is reduced.

>>16793761
You can get 200 BHP tunes that don't require a cam and header like that one does.

Is it worth replacing all the bushings in my control arms and inspecting the tie rods and shit on an old ass NA? Are these components that even wear over time or does it not matter?

I am in the market for new summer tires. Wut does /mg/ rock?

>>16794871
It's hard to say. They do seem to hold up quite well on Miatas even after many miles, but track driving or frequent autocrossing with sticky tyres can tire them out quicker.

If you see cracks from the outside, they can definitely do with replacing. I still have the original ones on my car, but I don't know how different it would be with new ones. 60k miles, only occasionally autocrossing.

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>>16789204
I'm seeing Ronal R10's as a relatively cheap option in 4x100. I'm on the fence about throwing white turbo wheels on my white NA or just going with 14" RPF1's and thicc tires

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I'm going to be purchasing a miata this may. Which color??

>>16795497
Definitely green. Red is faggy.

>>16795497
Hot pink

>>16795497
Red is the original miata color. Getting anything else is just wrong.

>>16795497
Red

>>16795497
Green.
Reminds me of an old Jaguar.

>>16795497
Get red nigger

>>16795497
green, it looks subtle and somewhat classy
red is just "look at me driving a gay looking red convertible"

>>16794694
Yeah which means less movement correct?

I feel like it's already pretty much perfect, i have no real interest in one that feels like my G25 shifter with tiny little movements into gears.

>>16795497
Red and green are the two colours i can never decide between

>>16795497
green is pretty good but I like red better

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>>16792249
loch ness monsta aint gettin no treefiddy
>>16793452
i just reexported it so there you go
http://i.imgur.com/MReeS1E.jpg

>>16795945
Thanks. I really like that shot, it has a low-key cyberpunk look going on.

>>16795984
no it doesn't

Alright faggots, its time to get some coilovers. Any recommendations? Currently I am considering some Yonakas from eBay

>>16795999
Suit yourself.

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>>16795984
thanks my dude

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I'm 6'3" with the big wide frame of a linebacker but not fat. Is there any hope of me fitting in one of these comfortably? Ive been driving 90s hondas for a decade with no problems.

>>16796560
>find one on your local craigslist
>sit in it
>test drive it

ta da now you can figure out if youll fit in it

>>16794871
They definitely wear over time and replacing them will make your car handle much better, but they typically have a very benign failure mode so you're not going to crash and die or anything if you don't replace them now.

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>>16785510
I completely agree. Pic related

>>16796560
See
>>16796571

I'm looking to get a Miata for a DD Is there a good year/ model? I don't mind doing a lot of wrenching (that might even be fun) but I'm a bit spooked at some of the complaints of dieing electronics in a lot of the older models. Am I being silly? And suggestions?

>>16796792
Ok? I saw it. Not my first day on 5chin.

>>16796560
I'm 6'5" with a normal build and I can semi-comfortably fit in an NA at least well enough that the degree of discomfort is outweighed by the amount of fun I have driving it.

>>16785510
Only if you paint the mirrors and windshield frame black as well.

>>16796818
NA8 = 1994-1997

came with the 1.8 as opposed to the earlier model (NA6) which came with the 1.6

My miata is running 15" 8j et0 wheels that look stunning, but I can't lower it because the tires rub against the fenders.

What are my options? Can I get away with just rolling them? I would hate to cut into my stock fenders to make room for overfenders. Because the body is in pretty good shape.

>>16797026
Howabout not being a fag and leaving them the way they are?

>>16797067
Lowering is ascetic DESU.
>>16797026
But I wouldn't lower it if you're so worried about how clean it looks stock.

>>16797077

It's not really about the look, but more about the fact that about 70% of miatas here have rust all around the car, and mine is pretty clean, so i'd rather roll them than cut into them.

Besides the stock height, my car is far from stock.

>>16797067

but then i can't lower the car senpai

>>16797106
Yes.

>>16796625
Thanks. I looked into it and it looks like bushings are a fucking bitch to replace without a proper press kit. Guess I'll knock it out one of these weekends...

>>16797139

b-but

>>16797161
http://www.miataturbo.net/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/bushing-swap-$5-tool-no-fire-needed-56160/

>>16797239
Maybe I am ignorant but why can't they just be hammered out with a screwdriver or something? Suspend the control arm in a vice grip, grab a metal rod with a slightly flared end, put it up against the bushing, and just hit it with a hammer as hard as you can. It wont move?

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>>16784433
Picked up a 1997 NA about two weeks ago, I've taken it on so many adventures and I love it already.
(pic related)
Thanks /mg/ for driving me to get a Miata.

>>16797314
nice post more pics and its specs

>>16797269
They're rubber. Rubber flexes. You're welcome to try, but I can tell you it's no fun. It's possible with a torch (the rubber gets greasy when hot) and a big enough hammer.

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>>16797339
It has the 1.8L, 5speed. and powersteering. No ABS, no A/C.

93,000 miles. I picked it up for $2700.

It doesn't have any issues except for the top not sealing completely on the front/windows.. Any way to adjust that?

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>>16797387

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>>16797314
>>16797387
>>16797410


Front licence plate is required under CO state law anon, putting it on the dash is acceptable as well

i realize condition and milage is going to be main factors, but are 90s miatas still around $5k? i ask bc it seems like 10 years ago, i was looking around and they were around this price. now i browse Cl and find similar condition ones going for the same price.

>>16797467
About 5-10 years ago they were a third of the price they are now.

>>16797269
At that pint just make a diy press with a bottle jack and some steel

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Still thinking about this.

I know it's possible. its just a lot of fab work.

>>16797740
A beams would be really interesting, I've always loved the sound. As you say though, it is a lot of fab work. If I were to swap in another 4 pot, I'd go either K20 or K24. Apparently the K24 needs either a hole in the hood or a new hood though.

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>>16797841
Yeah my buddy tried to talk me into doing a k20 swap. But honestly I'm so deadset on the BEAMS 3S-GE.

It has the perfect amount of power (around 220hp to the crank iirc). I'm looking for that balance. Also the Beams 3SGE weighs about 100 lbs less than the k20

if I don't end up doing it to my current miata, I may pick up another NA shell to fuck with or better a Corolla GTS.

>tfw all these fags on CL are asking absurd amounts for their miatas

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>>16798285
where are you

also you have to learn how to make yourself a deal. its craigslist not carmax.

https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6000280734.html

Why do I feel like this thing is worth like 1500.

>>16798340
because it actually is. meet up with the seller check out the car and bring $1500

if he doesnt take it, walk away.

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>>16797454
Every car I've owned hasn't had it's front plate on. Never pulled over for it, I don't think they give a fuck at this point

>>16798340
or you could buy this

https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/6033792307.html

>>16798368
BRUH! I love you.

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Best color for an NA?

>>16798680
https://www.miata.net/gallery/na.html
Here's all of them

>>16798680
Sunkist Orange

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>>16798680
yellow or white

>>16798340
Hardtop is worth $800, so you're expecting the entire car part of the car for $700. Good fucking luck.

>>16796000
If I didn't live in TÜV-land I would have gotten Meisters.

>>16797387
Nice. Have fun!

>>16796000
FM V-maxx are great, TEIN Flex Z are good, MeisterR ZetaCRD are good as well

>>16798340
because it's actually worth less but people overprice these cars to hell

Anybody going to Willow Springs this Saturday?

Anyone in New England going to Thompson Speedway this Saturday?

Lock City Drift event is going down.

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>>16798782
Patrician taste good sir.

Would a popular V/I-6 swap cost less than the LS1 swap? I'd rather die than listen to my wimpy ass 4pot, but am not too keen on a $15k swap

>>16799162
If people pay it, then it is worth what it sells for...that's how value works, regardless of what dumb shit kbb/nada say.

>>16799316
K24 is going to be the cheapest engine swap unless you're rednecking everything, and even that is going to run you $8k absolute minimum. The LFX swap isn't meaningfully cheaper than a V8, and the Honda V6 swap kit is a fucking joke.

Just stick a huge muffler on the back and you won't have to hear the engine at all anymore.

>>16799117
VMaxx are trash, they're literally Racelands for VWs.

>>16799331
guess I'll just go for the ls1 then, have a wrecked gto sitting in the family, anyway

>>16799338
Cool. Just remember that it's going to cost $12-15k just in parts in addition to the engine and transmission, and the car isn't going to be worth more than 15k when you're done. Unless the car is in particularly good condition or means a lot to you, you might be better off buying a completed swap.

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>>16799338
If you were a real nigga you woulda sunk your teeth into that bitch the minute you laid eyes on that glorious aluminum goldmine of horsepower. Get your bitch ass a two bit welder and a 20% off coupon for babbys first engine hoist and get to work punk, then you can talk like yous about this life.

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What kinda wheels these be

>>16799479
Discount tire house brand garbage. They're worth maybe $20 a corner if you're feeling generous.

So I don't know how to drive manual but an automatic miata makes me feel like i'd rather not own one.

Good car to learn manual in? Despite people thinking you're gay for driving one here in the bible thumping Georgia town i'm in... I'd rather drive one and fuck what they think.

Color scheme
dark green body/hardtop or black soft.
white body with black hard/soft top
dark blue hard/body

>>16799656

They're pretty forgiving and easy to learn manual in desu

>>16799656
It's probably the best car to learn manual in.

If you're going to be painting a car, I'm a fan of lighter colors with a black windshield frame and mirrors. It hides the height and lack of rake of the windshield and makes the car look less bubbly. Otherwise, buy whichever car is in the best mechanical condition or newest or cheapest.

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wasn't emission exceptions at 25 years for most states? I recently got this in the mail, but my car is only a 94. Regardless, the first thing that came to my mind was instantly removing my cat and putting a nice racing beat race pipe in its place.

>>16786614

From an aesthetic standpoint it's beautiful. Looks like the old Z4M Coupe's which is one of the best looking cars ever built.

That said, same engine. It's an extra 600 pounds. It's going to be slower. If you buy one, throw a turbo on it. AVO and TurboSource both make fairly priced units - Around $2000.

>>16799691
>extra 600 pounds
Seriously? That's like 1/4 the entire car

>>16799705
He's exaggerating. The car is 113lbs more, but keep in mind it only comes in nice trims so you're getting all the extra leather and other stuff, so comparing to a base model is sorta disingenuous

>source: http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/a32413/the-rf-is-the-miata-for-you-in-twenty-years/

>>16787153
that looks fire

>>16799117
>>16796000
Bilsteins with coilover sleeves are the best option until you get into the $1500+ range. There's megathreads on the subject on m.net and mt, and probably cr as well.

>>16800951
Yeah, I agree that if you want the best coilovers you can't really cheap out, but I think most people are looking into decent coilovers, not full on 10k springs and 60 way adjustable dampers.

I think something like a tein flex z is good for most people. Reasonable spring rates and separate preload and ride height adjustment. That and an upgraded front sway bar will make most cars much tidier around the corners.

>>16799117
>>16801147
REMINDER:
Adjustment knobs on shocks do nothing (or make it worse) until you get into the really high price options.

www.farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets18.html

Bilsteins with threaded sleeves and Hyperco springs are you best bet for something cheap and good.

www.fatcatmotorsports.com/

>>16801164
That was actually a really interesting read anon. Does this all apply to road use though? How much are some bilsteins with sleeves and springs? I'm just trying to gauge if some $800 coilovers will be worth it in comparison.

In my case my car is mostly a dd, with occasional road racing, and backroads. I also need to maintain a reasonable ride height for daily use since potholes are incredibly bad here.

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>>16801257
I recommend everybody to read that entire website. There is a ton of info there.

Here are some Bilsteins for sale

www.summitracing.com/search/brand/bilstein/part-type/shocks-and-struts/make/mazda/model/miata

Goodwin Racing all sells Bilsteins

I forget which one it is but here are the sleeves.

www.summitracing.com/parts/bsn-b4boa0000187/overview/
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/bsn-b4boa0000117/overview/

And then just look up the Hyperco spring by the part number. Pic Related.

If I got miata could I do slight off roading with it? How much space is in the trunk / behind the seat?

>>16795497

GREEEEEEN

>>16801482
no
no

>>16799196
>unironically liking drifting

lol

ill be there for car track days and motorcycle track days

but not for drifting

lol

what are you haggard garage?

lol

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>>16801482
you need to put some money into lifting it yeah its very possible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lfiGu113DI

https://www.flyinmiata.com/lift-kit.html

>>16801605
I dont like drifting much, I just want to watch, plus I've never been to Thompson

but if it makes you feel superior to like something else cool.

I plan on going to Lime Rock Track Days this year. What will you be driving at Thompson

>>16799196
I'll be there because I have a few friends driving that day.

>>16801605
a bit pretentious of you no? You from CT as well or Mass?

>>16801634
>>16801623

i live in norway and dont even have my license yet. i just saw his post while scrolling for threads and commented.

>>16801715
but you just said

>ill be there for car track days and motorcycle track days

Im confused.

I feel like at one point there was a miata checklist to go through when buying one.

Anyone got the link? Also what's best year?

>>16801147
>>16801257
You don't need separate proad and ride height adjustment when you're building your suspension yourself, because you can get exactly the ride height and preload you want with a tape measure and and a little math.

At the cheapest end, you'll need a set of used OEM Bilsteins ($150-300 depending on wear, these things last basically forever unlike the OE Showas), a set of eBay coilover sleeves ($35), a pair of eBay springs ($60, usually you'll be able to use two of the four springs with that come with the sleeves), and a set of Honda bump stops ($20). That's less than $400 for a ride that's quite a bit better than your average eBay coilovers like Racelands, Megan, Yonaka, or V-Maxx.

Then, if you want to spend some money up to the $600-800 range, you can get stronger sleeves (no problems with mine but I'll be the first to admit Chinese engineering and machining isn't confidence inspiring), deepened top hats for more compression travel (ISC racing makes these), brand name springs (Hyperco and Swift are best, Eibach are okay), torrington bearings to keep your springs from binding on the perches (only one necessary per corner), a rebuild and custom valve job (local circle track shops will usually do this for $60-75/corner), etc. Buy whatever matters to you, don't waste money on shit you don't care about.

Once you get into the $1000-1200 range, it's time to start saving pennies until you can afford real coilovers from Feal or 949Racing. There's honestly no reason to buy new coilovers from anyone but those two, but if you find a set of used ohlins for $1200 or something, by all means buy that.

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>>16801920
google is a cool tool

http://wiki.miata.net/tiki-index.php?page=Checking+Out+a+Used+Miata


'94-'97 is the best year if you want an NA with the 1.8 and LSD.

>>16801920
It's a Miata.net garage article. I recommend you bookmark the garage if you're just starting out with Miatas.

As for the best years, I suppose you could make a case for 93, 94, 96, 97, 99, 01, or 04-05. Honestly, I wouldn't really worry about the year so much, just about anything from later years can be swapped onto an earlier car down the road if you decide you can't live without it.

A quick primer on generations:
>89-93: 1.6L NA, aka NA6
These cars have weaker everything, but they made more of these cars than 94-present combined. Some people like the 1.6L better for muh feels, but everything about them is objectively worse. They have the best dash out of all Miatas, but the radio bezel cracks all the time and is expensiveish to replace.
>94-97
Bigger engine, bigger brakes, stronger transmission, stronger diff, etc. These cars (and all afterward) were available with helical (torsen) limited slip differentials rather than the useless viscous LSDs on the NA6. Expect a $500-1000 premium over a similar condition 1.6L.
>98
Doesn't exist, at least in the US. The handful of NAs built in 98 were sold as MY97, most cars built in 98 were NBs sold as MY99.
>99-00: NB1, aka early NB, aka zenki for weebs
No popups and piggu fattu, but everything else is better. These cars are slightly stiffer, in part due to nearly 100 pounds worth of bolt-on chassis braces. They have more power, more fender clearance for wide tires, and better suspension geometry. Notable are the ('99) 10th Anniversary Edition and the Sport trim. Both came with yellow 'Hard-S' Bilsteins included, the 10AE came with a 6-speed (which was the only way to get it before '01), and the Sport package came with larger brakes.
>01-05: NB2, aka NB facelift, aka VVT, aka kouki
All of these cars came with the Sport brakes, and had the 6 speed transmission available as an option. They also had a more powerful engine with VVT can phasing on the intake side. These engines are highly sought after.

>>16802059
So if I want aesthetic paradise pop up wink action go with the NA 94-97 for the better upgrade package.

Pure performance oriented go with 01-05 for the powerful engine and 6 speeder.

Now for the real question!

Yellow or Black for the color.

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Fellow homosexuals, I come to you seeking guidance. I recently purchased an OEM Shifter Rebuild Kit for my NA and when I received it today, I noticed that these little washers or whatever the nigger they are are kinda bent. Is this normal?

>>16802132
6 speeds weren't standard except on the 10AE ('99) and MSM (Turbo, '04-'05), so don't be surprised if you find an NB2 without it. The 6 speeds also had a shorter top gear but compensated for it with a taller final drive, so the actual top speed/cruising RPM is the same as with the 5 speed. The 6 speed has closer ratios, which can be fun if that's your thing, but some people find it dreary to have to shift more often. The shifter on the 6 speed also isn't as smooth as on the 5 speed, but it can handle more power than the 5 speed (about 220 ft-lbs for the 6MT compared to about 180). They also tend to be more expensive due to their rarity and strength, so a replacement 6 speed is about $350-500 compared to $75-175 for a 5 speed.

Yellow was only available as a color in 1992, while black has always been an option. I had my white car resprayed yellow forever ago, so clearly I approve of the color. If you're getting your car painted, keep in mind that yellow is a tricky color to paint and will often cost more (yellow was a $2000 option, IIRC, which is why no one bought it and it was discontinued) and will fade faster than other colors. If this is a Maaco job, don't even bother. Black is a bitch to keep clean, but summer heat isn't too bad of an issue because opening the roof for 10-15 seconds will cycle out all the hot air, and then you can either leave the top down or put it back up to enjoy the AC. If you live anywhere hot, I'd recommend shying away from leather because your seats will get painfully hot if you park in the sun.

>>16802154
Yes, those are spring washers that are supposed to take up slack in the bushings. You'll see that the ones you take off are bent in the same way.

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>saw three NAs and one NC in the space of an hour today
>tfw no miat of my own

>>16787153
I really really don't like this image

>>16790092
Mine has about 11k into it.
Wheels 1200
Tires 1200
Brakes 900
Coilovers 1300
Body kit 400
Final drive change 1000
Big Enchilada 4000
Tuning 800
On a ~7k car. So I'm like 1.5:1

I guess it's not that bad.

>>16802964
Pictures.

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>>16802059

Ayo hol up hol up

You be sayin dat LSDs are standard on all 94-97 Miatas?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Just bought my first Miata.
$3100 for a 95 with 130k on it and TA Technix coilovers that I'll eventually swap out. I'm in love already

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>>16802981
I really only have 2, I always feel like a fag taking pictures of my car.

>>16803026
Not all, but they were standard for a couple of years (94 and 95 I think?) on all cars that weren't absolute bottom barrel shitspec cars and standard for a bunch of trims after that. If you have leather seats or power windows there's good odds that you have an LSD, but you'll want to check to make sure.

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>>16803065
Not bad at all my man.

>>16802981
After a wax

Should I get a Miata or a MR2? obviously you guys are biased but I'm seriously conflicted and could use some input. I figure you guys have strong opinions about this.

>>16803075
>>16803088
Nice. Looks like 6ULs and R1Rs with one of the older BBKs with 11" rotors? I jelly. What suspension do you have on there?

>>16803128
MR is a meme. FR is better unless you're building a single seat racecar with your balls located where the driveshaft needs to be, or you're building a supercar and you need to use the same bland supercar styling as everyone else so no one mistakes it for a riced out Corvette.

>>16803026
>Black forest little tree
Patrician taste my dude.

>>16803133
Yes yes and yes if you mean Wilwood Big Brake Kit.
They're Tein adjustable coilovers raised all the way up so I can get out of the driveway.

>>16803128
miata you pussy

>>16803216
Nice. Is that an MSM or sport NB1 or normal NB2? I'm not good at identifying NBs, I'm too poor. How much power are you making?

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107k miles
95 mx5
1.8l / 5 speed

Post says $4500, I think I can pay less.

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versus

96 M edition
5 speed again, 112k miles
Better color combination with that purpleblue+tan+leather
Says cold air intake (why do people act like this makes the car instantly worth more?)

$5k

>>16798168
is this a thing?

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>>16803088
>>16803075
>sinking $11k into an NB

>>16803345
No, because a K20 swap is better and easier and cheaper.

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>>16803345
what do you mean is it a thing?

It's not something most people do but its been done >>16798145

https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=553442

>>16803362

and like I said before the K20 weighs 100lbs less than the 3S-GE

BUT you can make way more power with the K20, but power isnt what the miata is about, it is about balance and a stock JDM 3S-GE makes the perfect amount of hp for the NA chassis

>>16803409
Where are you getting 100 pounds from? The only numbers I'm seeing are ~280 dressed for the 3S and ~275 dressed for the K20. They're basically the same weight. Are you looking weights for a Rover K or Nissan KA or something?

>>16803473
don't bother that nigga is stupid, one of the worst trips

>>16784433
Dunno who's car this is, and fuck miata's, but nice beading bro.

>>16803318
>>16803326

Going to bed would love some input when I wake up.

>>16785395
did that motherfucker wink?

>>16795497
red will be more expensive insurance-wise

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my baby at the racetrack.
still need to get a roll bar and replace all the bushings

I want a roof basket for my hardtop so I can carry more stuff when I move later this year. Is this unreasonable? I've only found a few pictures of something like this. Mind you, I have a white NB and black hardtop

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>>16804790
Forgot my pic

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>>16803144

It's not mine but I'd love a Miata on Rpf1s.

>>16804841
I just wish they came in man sizes. 15x7 is scrawny bitch tier.

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Stook 94 looks so good

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I'm picking up this 94 on Saturday. 66k miles for $6,100. Thoughts?

>>16804978
Buying old low mileage cars is a waste of money if you ever plan on driving them. Buy something with more reasonable mileage on it and spend the money you save on replacing wear items and you'll come out on top in the end.

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Any red flags /o/?
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/6030675679.html

>>16805184
>drift missile

stopped reading right there anon

>>16805184
its been modified, move along unless you plan to replace everything the previous owner 'improved'

>>16805012
>>16804978
Don't listen to this guy. 6.1k for a miata is not unreasonable if it's in good condition. If it's rust free, the paint is good, the top is good, includes a hardtop, has the torsen LSD, and has a service history it's a decent price, maybe a bit on the high side.

If you want to pay 2-3k for a miata in the current market you'll either be waiting forever until one shows up that will sell very quick, or you'll buy a real piece of crap

>>16805184
That has every single red flag possible:
>JDM Swap
I have no idea what this moron means, the jdm engine and usdm engine are the same
>has a hole in the exhaust and the owner left it that way because he likes it
owner is clearly an idiot who would gladly have a straight pipeed stock honda
>rota wheels
would be fine except if like he says they are reps it means the owner is so cheap he can't even afford to pay $130 a wheel for some rotas, which is a bare minimum
>car is slammed
that speaks for itself
>paint looks like it was done with a spraycan
>it has those retarded clips between the fenders and the bumper
>full on aluminium race seat
>4 point harness
retarded

In conclusion, the car is owned by a retarded moron who likes the sound of a 1.6 miata with an exhaust leak, is riding on possibly rota reps which is as ghetto as you can get, the car is slammed so you know it's been scraped to shit, whatever swap the owner did is "JDM" apparently which makes no sense, the paint is shit, the clips on the bumper and fender are dumb, and the car was a drift missile.

Offer $2k because at least the hardtop is worth something.

Wanna be drift fag here

91 Miata convertible pops up on craigslist for $500 USD, doesn't run, poster mentioned something about the harmonic balancer being wallored out. Not exactly concerned with that because I was hoping on swapping it anyway and the body was in decent shape and the top wasn't torn to shreds. Has anybody here done anything similar, have some advice on which way to go about it? A 1.6 I4 doesn't appeal to me all that highly, but perhaps you guys know something I don't? Was originally thinking a 302 swap for nothing other than keeping the costs low, but perhaps I should be thinking something light to prevent messing with the distribution. Thoughts?

>>16799479
MB Drifters, actually kinda hard to find.

>>16805314
Look up the crank wobble problem on the early 1.6s. You're gonna need a new crankshaft if it's bad enough. Also the 1.6s either have a open or viscous lsd which both are pretty bad for drifting. Best to just look for a 1.8.

>>16805314
Not personally big into drift builds, but general knowledge helps I guess. If you want the ass to come around easy, just throw a 302 in there. You can get into a full swap for around $5k if you keep it reasonable. Less if you fab shit up yourself and get a good deal on an engine/tranny. The weight distribuition isn't that bad, but keep in mind it's still a heavy engine. An LS swap will keep you around 54/46, but a swap is around $15k.

If you want to go for the absolute cheapest build you can, buy that car, source a 1.8, and weld the diff. You can get into drifting and learn proper car control for like $700 for the engine, ecu, and misc crap. After that you can throw some forged pistons and a turbo and put out around 300whp easy.

>>16805358
Thanks. Probably another stupid question because I'm too lazy to look it up, but does the 1.6 and 1.8 have different trannies?

>>16805375
Same tranny, but the flywheel and clutch are bigger on a 1.8. You can run a 1.6 flywheel and clutch on a 1.8 motor and it will be lighter, but reduced area for the clutch means it might slip. I'd just get a 1.8 with a 1.8 flywheel and clutch.

Also, I forgot to mention but the final gearing on the1.6 diff is more aggressive to compensate for the smaller engine. This might be useful for drifting since it will accelerate faster, but it will lower top speed and make the highway a living nightmare. (70mph on a 1.8 with 1.8 gearing leaves you sitting at around 4.5k rpm)

>>16805388
Excellent. Thank you for the heads up, I'll keep this in mind

>>16805184
I don't understand why people try to make their cars more "JDM". No matter how much you do, the car will never be JDM. At the end of the day you're just playing dress-up.

>>16805236
>In conclusion, the car is owned by a retarded moron who likes the sound of a 1.6 miata with an exhaust leak

Literally me.

I don't think they craigslist listing is that bad. You could part it out for more than that just based on the hard top and coils alone.

I'd prefer an unmolested stock with low miles but those are going to be expensive

>>16784433
Okay, never visited /o/ before but I think you all will enjoy this.

>be me
>be driving home at 3:00 in the afternoon on a Saturday
>have to go over a hill, but the SUV in front of me is going ridiculously slow
>speedthefuckup.jpg
>SUV is obviously pissed too, I wonder why.
>they turn off into their subdivision and I see it, the glorious Miata of an insane friend of mine and his motorcycle trailer
And I shit you not the fucker had a jacuzzi rigged to it. He had to have another guy sit in the passenger seat because the Miata wasn't heavy enough to tow the damn thing.

He even made it up the hill.
Anyone here tow shit with a Miata?

>>16806118
I've seen a Miata towing a single motorcycle before on some dinky trailer. It looked ridiculous but the guy was hauling ass no problem

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Dirty pigu!

>>16805314
miatas are terrible drift cars with their short wheelbase and anemic engine.

not worth the swap unless you have the money to do it and if you do, you should do an SR20 swap

>>16806363
This. Miatas are not made for drifting. The geometry is too ideal for handling. You should look for something similar to a 240

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I think this company sent me the wrong rebuild kit. This boot doesn't fit like it's supposed to in all the tutorial vids I see. I just left it like this and took it for a test ride and it shifts beautifully (noticeably improved) so I guess mission accomplished?

man

also

the shifter rebuild didnt fix my weird 2nd gear issue. at least the rest of the gears are smooth as butter now

>>16807610
describe 2nd gear issue

>>16807786
it just doesnt take it as easily as the rest of the gears. whats interesting is that it only happens when the car is moving. if im under hard acceleration in 1st and try to bang it into 2nd, theres some resistance. it almost feels like im not hitting the gate dead center.

Where can i get the cheapest cooling reroute?

>>16808002
jdm

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big booty bump

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>>16808052
have a OE rep lip on the way

kinda nervous about the decreased clearance but i desperately need to mitigate the lift/ sketchy feelings i'm experiencing at highway speeds

>>16808069
>sketchy feelings i'm experiencing at highway speeds
never felt that in mine. could it be the alignment?

>>16808085
>>16808069

My '90 feels surprisingly stable on the highway and I cruise all day around 75mph. I got it up to 100 and it started to feel kinda light so I pulled back. But this is on stock suspension and factory wheel/tire size. Throw on some phatty 205s and lower it and I am sure it would feel completely fine at 100+

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>>16808085
nah the alignment is perfect

because its a daily drifter the stance has a slight reverse rake
And I have a custom exhaust
so the added area in front of the rear bumper + no bumper cut makes for a lot of turbulent air under the car and some noticeable lift

hoping the lip will deflect some of the air

>tfw dont want to do a bumper cut

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>>16808108
but the car is a heavily modded NC1 with NC2 bumper
tires are much wider and stickier than oem
i think the prob is reverse rake with no lip

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>>16808141
why would you run reverse rake?
in >>16808116 it looks like it's raked a bit forward but maybe that's just the angle of the photo

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>>16808052
>>16808069
>>16808116

nc a FAT


A FAT

>>16807371
The rubber boot and plastic ring are supposed to go under the upper part of the shifter, over the big ball. I never figured out how to do it, the stock shifter is definitely one piece and the plastic ring is too small to fit over either end.

>>16807941
Worn shift fork. You're not going to fix that short of a rebuild, and even then it'll take some welding and grinding to fix the problem. If it doesn't bother you, ignore it and if it does bother you, source a replacement transmission. Fortunately they're ridiculously cheap.

>>16808116
>Daily drifter

>>16808169
God fucking damn it. I knew I should have purchased from Moss Miata or 5XR. I went with Amazon instead because they had an actual Mazda dealer on there selling it. The kit I bought was a 1990-2005 which should have been the first red flag. I am assuming they tried to make a broad rebuild kit to target as many models as possible. I put it all together and it works beautifully but it pisses me off that I paid $123 for literally one plastic ring, a little washer, that little pad that slides over the shifter (which I also have no fucking clue if I fitted correctly. It was a bitch to get on and didn't look correct), and the boot which doesn't even fit correctly either. I guess none of it fucking matters in the end because it works great and cosmetically there is zero noticeable difference once everything is back together.

>>16808450
I bought mine from 5X. You have the right parts, I just have no earthly idea how to install them. I never figured out how to take the original factory parts off the stock shifter either, I replaced the entire thing with a two-piece short shifter.

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Should I get the cheapest best condition miata I can regardless of color and just get it plastidipped and also dip the hardtop? I'll probably almost never take the top off.

I ask because I don't want to spend $2k for a non maaco paint job on a car that costs under $5k.

>>16808568
Just spray it yourself. You can pick up a 20 gallon compressor, DA, and HVLP gun for under $200 from Harbor Freight.

>>16808671
Apartment complex. Don't really have a place to do this in and too many bugs for outside.

It would be like rattlecanning it at that point.

>TFW may just do a cheapo maaco spray that'll peel in 6 months.

Looked at "official dip shops" on their website and half had broken URL and the other 2 were over 6 hours away.

Any ausfags buy shit from Repco? Need a new battery and they got 20% off. What should i get?

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>Hunkeleposting

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>>16808833
>implying

>>16798296
At least in SoCo, miatas are fucking absurdly expensive. I looked for months and the ended up settling for a DECENT '01 w/140k for $3.6. Cars in general are more expensive in San Diego.

At some point it's not a matter of talking someone down.

>>16808909
>3.6k for NB with 140k
>expensive<

yeah it wasn't perfect value at those miles but unless it's a shitter then not that bad.

Most around me are 5k for the non crap ones with 95-120k miles.

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WHY THE FUCK ARE OCILOVERS SO GO DDMA NEXPENSIVE AL LI WANT IS JTO MAKE MY RIDE MORE COMFORTABLE JESUS FUXKING CHRIST HOW IS IT $1000 FOR SOME SHITTY FUCKING HYDRAULIC TJUBES WITH SHITTY UCKING SPRINGS

>>16809196
You know that there's no performance benefit for having threaded bodies on your shocks, right? Why do you require coilovers?

>>16809218
I don't have a spring compressor so I can't do regular springs/shocks combos

>>16808450
The shifter and transmission between 1990-2005 is exactly the same dude. That's why it's marked like that. There's also like a 13 dollar kit on Amazon for ford rangers that you should have bought because again, it's the same transmission.

>can I fit?

What if I'm 5'8 and overweight?

Can I still fit?

>>16809523
yes

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>>16784433
I Like the NC. I want one because I think it will be better for me than an NA or NB. But why the FUCK does the NC not come with any kind of spare.

>>16809253
I don't really understand what you two are talking about but you can borrow a spring compressor from Autozone.
Also I put $100 new coilovers on my cheby and they worked OK but squeaked a lot. Maybe that where the other $900 goes, anti-squeak technology.

>>16799732
I want to like the NB so bad but it look like a pigfat alien

>>16795497
BRG is better than anything else

>>16803300
MSM. Puts down about 230hp at the wheels on a cold day. Needs a better intercooler and maybe relocate the intake, intake temps are pretty high and had to retard the spark quite a bit. But it's still plenty fast.

>>16803349
Worth every damn penny

Are any of these worth looking into?

I feel like 3/4 of them are overpriced and junk.

https://greenville.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=miata

>>16809253
You can literally buy them from Harbor Freight for $5. I'm not dead yet.

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>>16809544

weight reduction bro

>>16809906
No, but this is. Head is identical to the one from the 2.6L pickup, they're all over the place in junkyards.

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6034293897.html

>>16808974
Fair enough. I missed out on some really good deals, but for $3.6 it wasn't a terrible buy. I'm from MD where shitboxes are a'plenty, so i'm probably just being biased. The ones out here that are expensive are in good condition, and my whole time searching I didn't find one shitbox miata. Maybe that's why. I am sad to say the days of cheap miatas are over, unless you're really lucky.

Where are you from?

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At what price would a miata situate? I found one for 3.1k yuros and another one for 1.5k.

>>16799479
$90 dumpster find wheel

these are mostly bought by people who sheared a rim doing stupid shit, probably going to have questionable rubber skinned on too since we're on the theme of image over substance

>>16799479
OEM wheel weighs 14.5lbs, less for BBS, around 12lbs IIRC
MB Drifter 16x7 16-19lbs

>what is unsprung weight
>how do I ruin miata
>this kills the enjoyment

just sell the car and buy a 96 Mustang already

>>16809986
Why would I want that?

>all these pictures of white NAs
I see NAs everyday here in the UK but never once seen a white one, what gives?

How to pronounce Eunos?

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Spring is near and I washed my soap bar today. Also got a 2$ trombone brush from aliexpress to clean my rain drains, and some chink led parking lights (waiting for spare plastic rivets to arrive before installing them)

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I have a weird problem with my NA. Water is collecting above the top seal, between rubber and metal. Water flows out when car is moving.
Is this a known weak spot or do I have to find some DIY solution for it?

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>>16784433

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do u guys like xander cage?

>>16811167
The BBS wheel weighs like 10.8 pounds. Anyway, GRM tested the difference between a 12 pound wheel and a 20 pound wheel and found it to be immeasurable.

>>16811637
You-noss

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>>16812104
nice boat

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>>16808683
find a smaller body shop that has a paint booth and time to properly prep yer shitbox

maaco a shit

should be able to find a shop to paint for way less than $2k that wont half ass it

>>16809954

If it wasnt for the front i would say that the NC is a beautiful car.

Anyway, from what material is the window on the hardtop made? I want to use it for the front for muh weight savings.

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>>16812104
>tfw trombone brush was the first and best purchase for my NC

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>>16812389
that car a has a power retractable hard top so the rear window is glass, as is all other oem tops

there are some light weight tops available in CF and fiberglass with lexan windows

http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/21-1006.html

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reminder NC is the manliest and happiest miat

nc a ok