Are Americans too stupid to operate a standard transmission?

>>16770234
Yes.

>>16770254
They they can't drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg8Iec-uG_c

Are Europeans too poor to afford an automatic transmission?

>>16770270
In Europe, only retarded or otherwise disabled people need to drive automatic.

>>16770234
Yes, it is well known that the average American is moderately retarded.
just look how popular religion is over there, religion is only popular with stupid people.

>>16770234
I'm too poor to buy a car with standard transmission

>>16770270
Used autos are cheaper than manuals

>>16770270
Manual is the norm over here and thus we are accustomed to it. Once you've learned it it's a second nature.

>>16770307
The same can be said about tyrannical governments

>>16770234

We were driving standard model T's when you faggots were still riding horses.

The last time I checked most euro semi tractors were going automatic because it's more fuel efficient. Even our "steering wheel holders" fresh of the boat can still drive an 18 speed.

In America do people get their license and then have to redo the test if they want to have a manual after they realize they like driving and want to be more involved?

>>16770320
Exactly, the Americans would know the best.

>>16770324
Nah, they do take the one simple test and then they'll be allowed to drive pretty much everything.

>>16770324

Nope. You can take the test in a Auto then go drive a standard. I'm pretty sure you can even get your class 1 license without driving stick if you go to some shady driving school.

>>16770336
I thought you didn't even have to go to driving school in the US

>>16770330
That doesn't even make any sense.

Don't project you pathetic fuck.

>>16770351
Maybe he listens to too much Alex Jones

>>16770341
You don't.

>>16770351
assmad american fangirl

>>16770341
Technically you don't but most people do because they think they have to.

>>16770362
You better watch out, or I'll report that Hate Speech™ to your local Citizen Management Department™

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCEzEVJkO1U

Why can't americans into winter driving?

>>16770370
Be careful with these trademarks, you could get sued for unauthorized use.

>>16770265
At at least least we we can can type type

>>16770379
Because they don't use winter tires

>>16770351
>Be american
>Say something bad about the president or its wall street donors
>Sent to guantanamo for indefinite time

Freedom ain't free

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>>16770234
Most are, but I'm not

>>16770390
>be yurocuck
>get removed from home because """"""""refugees"""""""" need a place to stay

>>16770392
That shit doesn't happen though, does it?
Yeah I've seen that vid with the Italian hotel or whatever, but Italy is a shithole that doesn't care about its citizens to begin with and it wasn't a home.

>>16770392
1.- that doesnt happen
2.- Not a yuro

Keep sperging

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2gLjfE_3Y

Serious question here

Don't you americans learn how to drive during the winter time?

>>16770408
This isn't a matter of knowing to drive, it's just that they are driving around in summer tires.

>>16770391
tits or gtfo

>>16770434
Not a grill, sorry

>>16770417
>This isn't a matter of knowing to drive

But it is
The car won't be steerable if the wheels are locked up

You wouldn't attempt driving if your car isn't fit for the conditions

You would have your car's lights on making yourself visible

>>16770450
That shit wouldn't happen if they had the proper tires.
The majority of the glorified European drivers would do the same in that situation.

>>16770379

>flying over a blind hill crest in shit conditions doing the speed limit or higher
>blaming others for when you slide into the ditch

Classic. I'll bet half those people didn't have winters on either. Like having cones further up the hill would have done anything.

>>16770457
>That shit wouldn't happen if they had the proper tires.
The car could still slide with winter tires on. If you ever have been driving during the winter you'd know. And the wheels will still lock up if you'd apply the brakes fully.

>The majority of the glorified European drivers would do the same in that situation
Probably not as we have a proper driving education

>>16770270
Manual can utilize the power band of a low displacement engine better. Autos only make sense on boat anchors that blubber away at 2k rpm and 15 mpg all day.

>>16770486
lmao, displacelet excuses

>>16770480
Yeah it could slide, but not at those speeds and not on that surface.
>Probably not as we have a proper driving education
>implying this shit doesn't happen in Europe in icy conditions
>implying you can teach the general public how to drive in the winter without actual practise

During snow storms like this, you aren't supposed to go fast. We had a big snowstorm in my city this year when the winter was otherwise mild with little snow in general. I had all season tires and I ended up going around 20-30 kmh the whole way home from work because any faster than that would send me sliding out of control.

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>>16770492
>implying this shit doesn't happen in Europe in icy conditions
I've never seen this happen in person or on TV here in Europe.

>>16770500
Haha me neither probably because people use winter tires here.
It does happen on a smaller scale though

>>16770447
Manlet? That seat is really close to the steering wheel.

>>16770491
Are you stupid? A manual transmission can also help you make use of all the power of a bigger engine

Why do Americans call manual transmissions "standard" when they all drive automatics?

>>16770500
>"stupid people can't get up a hill! just watch this, suckers. OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT"

>"what a moron. watch how to properly drive up a hill. ohnoohnoohno!"

>"seriously? it's not THAT hard. Oooops!"

Is this how things like this happens?

>>16770516
They also call it 'stick'. Automatic cars do have 'stick's as well, though.

>>16770514
Seats are from another car, they're taller and longer than the old ones. I also prefer a more upright driving position for muh visibility, I don't see how people (mostly Basketball Americans) can drive with the seat reclined and pushed all the way back.

>>16770516
Manuals used to be standard equipment on most cars, auto was an option. The naming just stuck anyway despite it now being reversed.

>>16770516
My guess is manual were standard equipment while automatic were a feature when they first came out.

>>16770234
As an American, yes. Yes we are.

>>16770480

If those people are having issues with those conditions then they'd last 15 fucking minutes in Canada without crashing and dying. That's not even a fucking hill, My city has 20% roads and people can go up and down them without issues in winter. Even the national highways have way the fuck steeper and longer hills. Even our fucking immigrants that have never seen snow can drive better than those fucking idiots.

America would be fucked in a ice age.

>>16770265
>not going back ~500 meters and putting up emergency signs and/or waving to cars
Holy fuck amerifats, can you even be fucked to help save someone from danger?
You deserve to die out.

>>16770567
If you walk down the road, you'll get ran over by another shit driver out of control.

>>16770567
It's far more important making a video to post on facebook for likes than to actually warn others

don't you know?

>>16770577
Yeah but jumping out the car into the road while it's rolling is an ok, huh?

>>16770567
Walk on the other side then?
Is it so hard to think?

>>16770589 meant to answer to >>16770577
Sorry.

>>16770586
Seems like it.
Pitiful.

>>16770589
>there aren't cars driving on the other side of the road

>>16770397
Italy, Sweden, Netherlands and Belgium. These 4 I know for sure. I'm from the third myself

>>16770609
Proofs?

>>16770607
Are you a fucking idiot?
Is there a huge fucking traffic accident on the other side?
Will cars on the "other side" brake and swerve, sliding uncontrollably into you?
You are continuing to prove that amerifats are idiotic when it comes to situations which are not in their daily routine.
Please, think what would you do in that situation.

>>16770607
Sorry for calling you an idiot and an amerifat tho.
I was too angry, now I've calmed down.

>>16770631
>Will cars on the "other side" brake and swerve, sliding uncontrollably into you?
Are the drivers on the "other side" also Americans? The answer may surprise you.

>>16770640
What? Please elaborate, I don't understand your point.

>>16770379
>retards flying over a hill with 3 inches of snow in their worn out burgermobile tires
>dur NEEDA CUPPLE MOAR KONES
>Fuckin' Coporotions muh KOANS!

>>16770667
This

What if there were kids playing in the road? Would it be the kids' fault?

>>16770384
Don't Amerifats justify not owning winter tyres with the fact that it seldom snows where ever they might be living? Then they just keep driving as usual when it actually snows.

>>16770610
Sure friendo, I'm on my phone though, so it'l take a while.

Sweden:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/01/swedish-govt-kicks-family-out-of-housing-to-make-room-for-refugees/

Netherlands
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2015/09/hallo_nederland_u_wordt_vervangen.html
>Amsterdam
I know, it's in Dutch, but students were kicked out and told to go back to their parents because muh rapefugees

Belgium
http://m.metronieuws.nl/buitenland/2015/09/moeder-en-kind-3-moeten-huis-uit-voor-asielzoekers
Dutch too. Mother and child (3 y/o) kicked out because syrians have priority when it comes to living space

>>16770716
>"it snows? no matter 'cuz I got this SUV with ALL seasons"

>>16770565
>then they'd last 15 fucking minutes in Canada

And you peckers wouldn't last 15 seconds in the Yoop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtF_UiwPRYo

>>16770379
I'm annoyed by the fact that none of the cars hit the Comcast trucks or the cunts driving them.

>>16770729
So it's public housing/dorms? Things that people are not really entitled to? Heh, I don't support this by any means and I'd be outraged if that happened in my country, but it's that big of a deal. It's just stuff that people don't own in the first place being taken away from them.

>>16770565
>If those people are having issues with those conditions then they'd last 15 fucking minutes in Canada without crashing and dying.
Canadians are also fucking shit at driving and have retarded licensing system.

>>16770733
>even the police and snow truck loses control

Surely, a snow truck driver would know it was too icy to drive without tire chains?

>>16770729

Pastaland
http://clashdaily.com/2016/11/watch-80yr-old-hotel-owner-forced-house-muslim-refugees/

Bonus #1: Germoney
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/torben-grombery/platzmachen-fuer-fluechtlinge-stadt-wirft-achtkoepfige-familie-aus-ihrem-haus.html
In German. Family of 8 gets kicked out. I'm sure you'll be able to google translate this and the Dutch ones to whatever your native language is.

Bonus #2: Germoney AGAIN
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11902296/Second-German-woman-evicted-from-her-home-to-make-way-for-refugees.html
Note that the article says it's the 2nd german woman to be evicted. A link to the first is present in the article.

Because of the fake news memes, make of it what you will. I will say this, I rent an appartment in a fairly wealthy town, not too far from my university. I see 911's daily. A bunch of rich folks do not want the gubment to place refugees in this town because muh property value. Whenever the government sets its eyes on a piece of property, say, an empty gym, the rich folks pool some money together to buy it before the government can claim it. They start charity stuff in the buildings so the government can't say it's empty. The town is Haren, in Groningen, for any Dutchman reading along.

Just a couple more years untill I'll be done studying medicine, after that I'm gone.

>he NEEDS winter tires to drive in winter
might as well just turn in your license

>>16770733

I Don't consider anything east of Alberta to be Canada, It might as well be the US for all I care. The IQ drops the further east you go.

>>16770759
They are pretty fucking bad bot not no-snow US or the UK with a 1/4'' of snow retarded. It doesn't help that they can drive here after not ever experiencing snow before.

>>16770767

Tire chains do dick all on bare pavement with ice, That would only make it worse. It just destroys the road and your tires. They're french so what do you expect?

>>16770799
Of course, mr. Rally Driver.
Do you drive the same on snow as you do on dry tarmac?

>>16770795
>The town is Haren, in Groningen, for any Dutchman reading along.
Fuck, I went to high school there.

>>16770234
yes

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>>16770808
>Tire chains do dick all on bare pavement with ice
I beg to differ.

>>16770758
In most european countries, public housing is not really public but owned by these huge corporations which, along with regularly priced housing, also offer government subsidized housing. The corporation still remains owner of the property. No idea where you're from, but here in toothpasteland you can't evict someone unless they do something illegal or otherwise forbidden in the contract. Otherwise the renter can only be evicted after a visit to the court. For an example, in Germoney, someone opened a can of surströmming, the pig disgusting rotten herring. Even that took a lengthy court battle to get him evicted, even though the guy just left the can in the stairway of the appartment building

>>16770810
He's just b8ing, m8

>>16770808
And I don't consider anything outside the UP to be the U.S. and the average nineteen year old is effectively a rally driver here-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeqG0CqzHq4

Quod erat demonstrandum, everyone NOT American is a shit driver.

>>16770819
Really mate? The international one, maarten or zernike?

>>16770835
Zernike, before they moved to the new building.

>>16770827
I'm in Lithuania, and while I don't know much about public housing (thank god for that), I do definitely know that it's always owned by the local government.
Anyways, if it's illegal to evict someone without a reason, then it's a fucking blessing to the ones evicted. They can sue the government and win a huge sum of money.

>>16770379
>telecom worker puts cones out on the road without wearing a high visibility vest

As a former AT&T tech, that's an OSHA violation.

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>>16770500

Because Europe is densely populated and wealthy. America is huge and government workers are lazy; in many places snow is left on the road and they are not salted (especially in the midwest where most of the photos and videos come from).

Most European roads are cleaned by the hour.

>>16770855
OHSHI-

>>16770822

I don't see these guys using chains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nImA9omDSrQ

Those people are getting shit-mixed because they keep the brake pedal mashed down and their wheels locked.

>>16770866
That was a freak snowstorm from Georgia or like one of the Carolinas, where they literally have none or barely any provisions for snow removal.

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>>16770893
>I don't see these guys using chains

Because they're using studded winter rally tires

>>16770265
Also visibility in shit like this is zilch- I was on I75 this past December and in shit like that you're lucky to have visibility or two car lengths in front of you and you've gotta keep your head on the swivel doing about 45/50 so the soccer mom still doing 70 doesn't utterly ass pack you.

>>16770893
>>16770915
This.

As you can see in >>16770822 the chains have studs. The whole point of the chains is the studs, so if your tires already have studs built into them, there's no point in having chains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuTXUcoGdhw

>>16770897

makes even more sense then

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webm related is my RWD, open diff Lexus reversing out an inclined driveway with thick snow.
Tyres are completely legal Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 snow tyres with studs (NOT rally-studs).
Stop buying "all season" shit and every damn car in the world is good in snow.

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>>16770943

Chains are for deep snow only. Having a row of studs every 4 inches is going to do dick all on ice, It's like traction roulette at that point. Rally tires work because they have studs on every knob.

Big trucks over 10k lbs have pretty beasty traction even in sheet ice even with their hard and stiff tires. Semi trucks can rail the shit of nasty roads. Jaques ate shit because he kept his brakes locked the whole way which you never ever do in slippery conditions.

>>16770915
are studs necessary on roads that only get covered in snow and not ice?

>>16770965

You could of got out of that 5x quicker in a FWD shitbox. RWD is not ideal in winter unless you got some LSD and a fuckload of weight over the rear wheels.

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>>16770980
Studded tyres have studs all around and the placement as well as the rubber compound they go into is carefully engineered.. Pic related is what is used in >>16770965

It's not some everyday summer tyre that someone put studs in.

>>16770983
Studs are only necessary for the slick ice. A proper set of winter tires may be ok on ice, but studded tires are preferable.

>>16771000
Studs are absolutely great for hard packed snow as well. Not just "pure ice".

>>16771008
True.

>>16770983
When snow gets packed and people slide their cars around on it as they brake, it becomes slippery as fuck.

a thread revolving around tires, snow tires and chains and no MightyBenz to be seen?

wow

>>16770529
That happened near me here in central NC. Having that much snow on the ground around here is a rare thing. That being said, its no excuse for people being retarded.

>>16770729
>government puts people in public housing, government takes people out of public housings
THats exactly how public housing is meant to work
Otherwise you end up having places like australia where scum live in the same government owned house for generations.. While people actually in need of public housing are left on the street

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>mfw people actually replied to this

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>>16771022
I'm his replacement. I'm the replacement Norwegian. The "Look-at-my-utilitarian-Lexus"-douche. <3 <3 <3

>>16771048

>towing
>Subaru transmission

>>16771048
That's gotta be real fucking popular in a crowded parking lot.

>>16771061
>implying it's a damn subaru
>>16771065
Yeah, and I sucked at reversing with it due to the lack of view through the back window (car was filled with all our stuff. That white Prius too).

>>16770832
actually giggled at this one

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more snowy goodness

>>16770948
I'm a brit and it's never snowed where I live since I've been able to drive
Isn't flooring it the opposite of what you want to do?

>>16770234
Yes, Some shitskin tried to steal my 240. It has a twin disk, I woke up to *VRAAAAHHHHHH ERT* and by the time I had gotten to my front door he stalled it three times then got out and booked it
>welcome to south sacramento

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60 mph for miles and miles and miles...

>>16771112
If you're not moving at all and it would only dig you deeper, don't do it. If you get moving forward and don't destroy the engine/tires doing, then it's fine.

You should always try to go slowly, but that doesn't work in every situation.

>>16771093

Holy fuck that trailer hitch looks like a cuck. You people can't even get a trailer hitch right ffs. I guess you can use it to penetrate your life partner on the way to the vape convention.

>>16770995
Sure, but the point still stands that proper snow tyres do their job, even when all odds are stacked against you, like here.

>>16771151
How does a proper trailer hitch look like then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pUvJCfRUUQ

>>16771151
Please don't pretend to be retarded on purpose like you just did.

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>>16771164

Or a Pintle Hitch if you have a nutsack.

>>16771151
It's a small, rwd japanese sport sedan turned wagon. It's not by any means a workhorse, but it gets the job done. Maximum towing capacity on the car is 1200 kg (2645 lbs).

>>16771187
loltrucks

>>16771187
What's that top (furthest away) wire for?

>>16770234
But American cars are the ONLY cars that constantly come out with manual OR automatic options. Not just automatic with faggotpaddlewheelshifters.

>>16771312
It automatically applies the brakes on the trailer if it breaks away from the tow vehicle

>>16771312

4 pin flat connector for lights. Trailers with electric brakes have a 7 pin connector and a steel wire that pulls a pin and applies the trailer brakes if the trailer separates.

>>16771343
I don't see any manual lincolns. They literally don't exist. American "manual" cars have wheel assist so posers who drive "stick shift", as it is called in America, couldn't actually operate a true standard transmission vehicle. Face it, fatass, you're NEVER going to be able to compete with the average European. Your 10% African mongrel pea brain just can't cope with the multitasking involved in driving a manual car. If you ever decide to visit Europe just remember that you're going to have to shamefully order an automatic rental vehicle because you don't actually know how to drive and the employees working at the rental agencies will giggle and whisper to one another "this guy is asking for an automatic, he must be American".

>>16771436
Don't worry, the Asians do it as well.

Last time I saw an Asian with a rental car, it was an automatic, the guy parked it on lane when he needed to converse with someone and put on the hazards.

>>16771436
>wheel assist
I meant hill assist. Sometimes when I get very angry about how stupid Americans are I make weird mistakes in my posts.

>>16770234
>standard
Sorry bud, but you're an American from the 90's.

>>16771568
It is standard everywhere in the world. Americans have their own special transmissions tailored to persons of low intelligence.

>>16771436
Is this a variation of a pasta or did someone actually type this out?

>>16771436
nice b8

>>16771631
protip: most of the posts making fun of Americans not being able to drive stick are made by Americans just so they can get a giggle

>>16770924
I remember being ON Us-23 duriing this storm, one of the scariest times on the road in a while.

>>16770808
>Montreal
>pavement

>>16771599
It's called "manual" (manuell) in Norway anyway.

>>16770500
same never heard of it.
I drove up and down the biggest and most used highway in my country this winter every day for a month.
And it was the month that had snowstorms almost daily.
Never saw a single crash despite it getting so snowy and icy at times that going over 50 in an awd meant the car started sliding around on its own and the visibility was like maybe 100-200m at best.

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>>16770808
>I Don't consider anything east of Alberta to be Canada, It might as well be the US for all I care. The IQ drops the further east you go.


I Think you got that backwards mate I live in Alberta, Canada starts east of Alberta and BC is Cascadia. Alberta might as well be the US. As far as IQs go, this place is scary as fuck, as soon as you get out of the beltline of Calgary, it's like stepping into Deliverance with all those Mormons, Hutterites, and drooling idiots driving brotrucks.

>>16770544
I don't see how people (mostly Basketball Americans) can drive with the seat reclined and pushed all the way back.
It's not that they can, it's that usually they have to.
6'4" here (non-landwhale), 90% of cars I need the seat scooted all the way back to even be able to lift my legs off the clutch or to not hit the steering wheel with my gas leg. There are some vehicles that give you room and are comfy at multiple seat setting, like the mustang, early 2000s chevy truck and cadillac seville/Deville to name a few. Probably why you always see a tall dindu in them. You don't understand why the ride like that because they have a clear height advantage over you. Also I'm only talking about the bottom portion of the seat, not the folding portion, usually the top part makes no difference.

TLDR; no you're just a manlet

>>16770832
Needs more Yooper accent

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>>16770286

>>16775196
Yeah but with the seat reclined all the way back so you're basically lying down and your head is under the beltline by the b pillar? That's the part I don't get

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>>16775185

Hutterites are dope yo.

You think it's bad outside the city, try the hick town rural life. Driving and off roading while drunk are pretty normal as is shooting off guns while drunk. Bush parties are fun too. Nobody really gets killed too often so it's all good.

At least were rich rednecks.

No, but we are smart enough to recognize that the beloved "standard" is actually the worst tranmission barring the four speed automatic on a toyota corolla, and that the only completely manual gearboxes worth having aren't options on production cars.

>>16775249
Oh. Yeah that's just being a nig/chink.

>>16771022
I've given up arguing about tires, chains and winter driving in general... never gives any result

>>16771048
Under whose authority are you permitted to be within 50 minutes of driving from my location?

>>16770383
>grammar correction

btfo

>>16770351
>being this mad and delusional

I see the gov got you anyway

Why is Europe so obsessed with America?

>>16776265
Cant handle the banter

>>16770298
Yeah, manual is only offered on high-end trims for a lot of cars

Americans are not too stupid to drive a manual transmission. Instead, we have such widespread access to a luxury item that many of us are unfamiliar with the operation of the standard version. And you don't see us complaining about having luxury shit that you don't, do you?

>>16770286
yet the vatican city is in europe

>>16776265
We aren't in the real world, most people just think its a shit hole except new york

>>16770500
fucking north carolina

>>16776386
>luxury
>still "drives" the vehicles yourselves

okay

>>16775319
Hey-oh!
Didn't know you lived within an hour of Elverum! Would've stopped to say hi.

Drove some 1800 km from Jevnaker through Sweden and Finland and up to Alta last week.
(Hopefully) permanent move.

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>>16776584
Yup, Trysil - another hour north-east of Elverum

>>16770234
>Not one but two police cars going for a Sunday drive instead of catching baddies
>No one dares to overtake the cyclist even if iw definitely wouldn't be dangerous in this case

nice police state you got there I bet the speed limit's like 25 mph or something ridiculous as well there

>>16776643
Wasn't too far away :)
Crossed over to Sweden by Ostby.

Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byzdrx8i3Hg

>>16777613
UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdqJxiHPCsU

>>16770234
yep thats why i have to channel my inner eurocuck to drive my standard transmission american car