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FRONTAL COLLISION

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You are driving your current car (if have more than one you can describe them too). Conditions of accident are irrelevant, collision is unavoidable, it will be 50% overlap at 45 mph speed (you and opposing car both).

Name your car and try to forecast HOW FUCKED ARE YOU? At which level you probably won't survive?
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>>16762863

1979 trans am.

I would not survive the first level.
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>1986 RX-7 FC GXL
first level is probably too much, although there is all that empty space in front of the doritos
>1995 Nissan Pathfinder XE
probably could take the first level and not kill me, maybe second level wouldn't kill me.
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I have no idea how my cars would fair. I guess my is300 is supposed to be safe-ish so id probably be ok up to the focus, vic would hurt, if i dont die atleast cop can buy me a new one.
Idk about my gto. Its kind of a brick but has no safety ratings so i might die.
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>2016 Ferd F150 XLT 5.0L
I'll probably survive all of them, but leave with some nasty fucking injuries coming from the last one. I might be fine though, even though my truck is about 1000 pounds lighter than the police vehicle, it at least has somewhat decent crash ratings.
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Civic Eg

pretty ded
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wew all my cars are death traps.
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I'm really not sure; on one hand, 1960's safety regulations, on the other, several feet of thick American steel

At 45 mph I feel like I'll be alright

Too expensive to try to fix the truck immediately though
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>>16762924
>several feet of thick American steel

Crushing you like an egg
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>>16762924
Also lap belt will cut me in half
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>>16762926
America wouldn't do that to me
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>>16762924
>No air bags
>"I feel like I'll be alright"
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>>16762863
>mfw driving RHD car on LHD roads keeping myself away from most dangerous side of the vihecle
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>>16762937
Ascended
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>>16762935
>tfw I hope I die on impact because I never would never want to see what my truck looks like after an hit like that
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>13 sonic
I'd be fine.

>90 240sx
I'm probably ded. Cop might actually go over me.
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I will probably survive hard mode, there are a fuckload of airbags in there and the chassis is pretty rigid, it was specifically designed to pass overlap tests,

however my interior is stripped so I'll probably manage to smack my head on something sharp like the seat belt pulley bracket.

The cop Explorers are not invincible either, the'll crumple like any car. The most dangerous vehicle in that list is probably the body-on-frame Vic.
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>>16762949
>sonic
>fine
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>>16762863
>tfw RHD
I'd be fine
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>>16762951
It will crumble, but the mere mass of the vehicle gonna do horrible things to your car, also, cop interceptor might have reinforced front?
And why the fuck do you have striped interior?!
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>>16762966
He owns a FWD turdbox named after a great looking muscle car, he probably thinks about ways to write it off
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>>16762962
Hey, sudden stop is no less dangerous, if you don't have enough crumple space and front and side airbags you still will be in great danger.
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Well considering my truck outweighs the police suv by 600lbs plus the solid steel pipe bumper, ill be ok. Truck may not survive, but itll be much better off than whatever i hit.
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Considering the weight, lack of rust on the front frame, and solid as fuck front bumper I think Id survive as long as i wast flipped. Even then i think the stock PPG windshield would just pop out and lie on the ground intact like a retard.
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obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85OysZ_4lp0

also, how can I even know how my car will perform? Any guesses for mine?
http://www.autoblog.com/buy/2004-Honda-Civic/safety-ratings/
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>>16762981
what a beaut. How do those knobby wheels sound/feel on the highway?
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>>16762981
I doubt old 4 runner will save you in frontal collision with crown vic and explorer. Just not designed to withstand this while protecting the occupants.

>>16762980
As i said above, the physical deformation of car's body is one thing, but sudden stop is no less dangerous, your internal organs and most importantly head will fly towards the steering wheel and be held only by safety belt so only thing that might save you are airbags.
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I'd probably do fine up to and including hard mode due to how tall my truck sits, although the Escape would very likely kill me
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>>16763004
I think you can take out KA, but Focus can possibly kill you.
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>>16763019
dang, wtf. I feel like I need a safer car now. What makes a car more or less safe?
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>2013 Spark
Car is totalled, I brace for impact
Dance in the street because I have full coverage, and it's almost paid off
Use the payout to buy 2005 IS300
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>Mercedes w124t
I think with a bit of luck I could _Survive_ Hard Mode
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>>16762863
>1998 Mercedes C 180 with slightly rusted sills
Level one and two would be painful, but surviveable. Dunno about level 3. Level 4 would surely kill me.
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>>16763030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nXYES5MW88

W202 wasn't all that good even when new, so I think you'd be quite fucked even in normal mode
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>>16762863
I have an advantage of sitting on the "safe" side, but my cardboard box weights only 1050 kg, i think the outcome will depend on if oncoming car will "dive" under me. So it will depend of will i survive the rollover or not, no side airbags, so i am worried.
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>>16763044
Ouch. Gotta stay safe, then.
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>2013
>2011 Base Fiesta
>slam into front quarter of SL1 doing 35, t-bone it
>airbag doesn't even touch my nose
Say what you will about new model shitboxes but they'll keep your ass alive.
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>>16763048
You're never safe

Not even when parked outside your apartment
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>>16763046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-J7RBV4Hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciyz73c7uKs

>>16763044
I though benz would held "cage" around driver, that roof looks no good.
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>ITT, /o/ is reminded why their DDs should probably be on the newer side
God forbid this happens in my project truck. I'll die on easy mode with the steering column inside my fucking abdominal cavity.
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>>16763024
All cars are tested at ~43 mph being smashed at immobile barier. When you have frontal collision with another car it's almost twice as bad in terms of impact. In theory heavier car will always have an advantage. If to put it simple, you'll need heavy modern car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5E8agwuyk0
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>>16763071
I guess that makes sense. A heavier car will carry more momentum and won't slow down as fast as a smaller car. Because really, it's all about how fast you're coming to a stop. If it's too fast you die
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>>16763060
Nah

20 year old car, big focus on making it light with rounder shapes... going a bit back on what I said; for its time it was quite alright and you'd struggle to find cheaper cars of the same size/weight doing better.

Still; ABS, ASR, front and side airbags made the car decently safe
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>>16763057
How did that happen?
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>>16763057
RIP
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The Ka would certainly hurt, but I think I would be able to walk away
Same for the Focus, but it would hurt more. Wouldn't be surprised if I get some fractures
The Crown Vic would send me to hospital
Same for the Explorer, but it would hurt more. Wouldn't be surprised me if I go straight to the morgue.

>>16762924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U
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>>16762863
>S-Cargo
Survive Easy, Survive brutal because i'd just bounce away and probably end up in a wheelchair, not survive either middle because inertia

>Corolla
Probably survive all in my safebox
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it would be extremely painful
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>>16763095
>>16763096
You guys are a little too optimistic.
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>>16763090
>>16763093
Landlord was using a tractor & mounted blower to remove the previous nights snowfall, hit a small portion of polished ice and the rear slid out, hitting the front of the car with the blower

Wasn't that big of a deal. He paid for the parts & gave me a months free rent. Luckily there was a scrapyard barely a mile down the road with all the parts (with matching colors even), and I had in back to the shape you see on the same day
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>>16763071
Colliding with a immobile barrier at 43 mph is equivalent to colliding with another equal car at the same speed, because the opposing car will crumple as well.

Crashing with a car that's twice as heavy as your car is roughly the same as crashing into that same immobile barrier 1,4 times as fast (so 60 mph), although tipically because heavier cars are also stiffer the heavier car crumples less so the lighter car takes it harder so perhaps it would actually be something like an 74 mph crash for the smaller car, while the heavier car would feel an 35 mph crash.

However that doesn't mean the heavier car is necessarily safer, since the heavier car may not be as stiff as it needs to be and probably doesn't handle as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcYtskkzFo
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>>16763141
>Colliding with a immobile barrier at 43 mph is equivalent to colliding with another equal car at the same speed
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>>16763153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W937NM11o8
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Ded.
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>>16763141
these speed calculations have more to do with how well the car itself will take the crash, assuming that as long as the structure holds the passengers will be safe.

For the same reason, adding weight to a car actually makes less safe, since the stiffness ramains the same. Adding a roll cage may make a car safer... if it's well built and if the driver doesn't hit his head against it in a crash.

>>16763163
that only helps against an roll over, so yeah.
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>>16762866
I've got an 81 Camaro. Am I stupid to fear the steering column skewering me more than no crumple zones fucking my shit up in an accident >20mph
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>>16763172
>that only helps against an roll over, so yeah.
no shit, captain. thanks for explaining what a roll bar does
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>>16762863
I get a bit nervous passing big rigs on two lane roads with no medians or barriers.

Being that close to death is unnerving.
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>>16763188
See
>>16763070

The column will harpoon your ass. Drive safe.
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>>16763209
You can just sit behind them until you can see that it's safe to pass.
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1988 MR2, write pepperony and chease on my gravestone for me
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>>16763306
>pepperony
You want me to spell it wrong too?
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80s honda
rip me
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>>16763310
Absolutely
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>>16762910
i feel ya breh. at least my truck would fare better. my 56 bug with no seat belts or collapsible steering column would probably slaughter me even on easy mode though.
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>volvo 940
Should be okay until the crown vic. Would probably survive them all, but 4 would most likely give me some bad bumps.
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>>16763389
Lol, good luck m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtLLvXrrFs
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>2003 Suburban

hahaha I win
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Got one of these so I should be fine up until brutal
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>>16762863
2011 ford focus.

It's RHD, so I'd be pretty much fine. Maybe some whiplash, or some burns from the seatbelt.
I'd be more worried about the cunt in the other car, because I'd be inclined to drag him out of his car and beat him to death for destroying my car.
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>>16763025
Yep I know that feel. Bought a shitty econohatch before getting into cars, now see how bad I fucked up and wish I'd bought a based comfy, powerful sedan
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Accord coupe.

Hard mode is where things would get interesting but still be relatively evenly matched

Brutal mode would definitely fuck me up pretty bad
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>>16763441
Obviously if you are driving rhd car on rhd roads consider this collision as if both sides were driver's.
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>>16762863
well we all ride the bus so no seatbelts but i think we'd be okay
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>>16763010
But given that i have more weight, id more than likely keep moving forward with all except the police suv, which would be an even match for my truck.
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Fuck it, everything but easy mode means amputation to me.
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I think I'll be fine till hardmode. Brutal Will be iffy.
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>>16762863
>NA Miata
Even odds that I'd survive hard mode. If I got hit from the side though, I'd probably be killed by a motorcycle.
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>>16762863
Lifted Ram on big tires. Last level might hurt some but I'd be fine
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>>16763558
>redneck logic

what if i told you you'd be impaled on the steering column
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'89 Accord coupe... no airbags, any frontal collision at 45mph would probably force my guts through the steering wheel like mashing a boiled potato.

>>16763558
>Lifted ram tire drives up over the Ford Ka's hood and windshield
>Left side of the Ram is launched into the air, flipping the truck over
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>>16763459
5 star safety rating, long-ass crumple zone.
Easy mode would disintegrate.
Normal mode would be a mutual write-off, but my car would be in better shape because newer.
Hard mode would demolish my car, but I'd survive.
Brutal would also be survivable by me, but I'd have to be cut out of the car and have bits reattached in hospital.

A head-on crash at 45MPH with ANYTHING on my motorbike would kill me and the bike. A 45MPH oncoming vehicle would probably result in me headbutting the driver to death as well.
Although given the situation pictured, I'd have budged way over in anticipation of dipshits doing dipshit things, and possibly even laid the bike down to slide to a halt on the road, sacrificing my expensive biking gear and the bike's bodywork and levers for being able to yell obscenities and give the finger.
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try harder.
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>>16763694
At least nothing of value would be lost
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>>16763421
Yeah, seen that one. They removed the bumper charges and the airbags.
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>>16763004
>dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHhP0-jjx5w

>>16763707
>dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIJFLVkCuuI

>>16763513
>dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY

>>16762981
>dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEfr91PSwG0
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Ik think i'll be deadline within a second. My cat only weighs 720Kg, has no airbags etc.
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>>16763774

Look at the post above you. Ill be fine in my 940.
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>NB Miats
At least I'll die with the wind in my face I suppose
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not only will i live, but the accident will be comfy
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>>16763818
http://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/latest-safety-ratings/en/results/mazda/mx-5/15575

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sD4DEu9U7Q
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>>16762863
I'm going to survive the first two without any major injury. Against the crown Vic I will probably get something broken. Against the enforcer SUV I will either die or be the next Stephen Hawking
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I am the crumple zone

https://youtu.be/OoJqCsHAak8?t=39s
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>>16763814
Here's one of a friend's volvo after it ploughed through two roadsigns with concrete foundations at 80km/h. He drove it home unscathed. Thing is totaled, but he's a-ok.
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Statistics show that there's a good chance that I'll be alright.
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>>16762863
>2016 WRX.
Pretty fuckin safe, I'd say all the way up to brutal mode.
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This thread has removed pretty much all the shame I once felt about being super-cautious when I pass people on two-lane roads.
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>>16764284
>painted brake calipers
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>>16762863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz628gYZE5M
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>>16762863
WRX I would probably live through all of them. Might be pretty fucked up on the last 2.

On the CBR I'm dead as fuck inside other other cars windshield
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>>16763735
Not quite as good than if someone killed you on the road, though. That would actually create value due to removing you from the genepool and internet, and your shitbox would be off the road for good.
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Only found a small overlap test.

Might just make it.
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>>16762863

I'd probably be fibmne no matter the car since I don't drive like a retard.
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>Yamaha xt660r
I'd be fucked on all if I hit, but I'd be on the edge of the road so I think it'd miss.
>1985 hj60 landcruiser
It's got a fat bumper but I expect it's not going to do a whole lot.
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>>16762966
>cop interceptor
it is literally a unibody Ford Explorer with a bullbar, slightly hopped up engine and heavy duty suspension.
It's no tougher than your average soccermom SUV, because that's exactly what it is. The Crown Victoria on the other hand, is literally built like a truck and will be MUCH harder to kill than the Explorer Interceptor. If it was a CVPI, I'd be totally fucked.

Also my interior is stripped because Fiat Chrysler thought it would be funny to put a 1.4-liter engine in a 3000 lb car then give it more turbo lag than a 4G Supra. And I thought it would be even funnier to own one (it is).
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>>16762863
lets go BRUTAL MODE
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>>16762863
probably lose my legs at anything past normal mode
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>>16762863
My eclipse, up until the vic or copying car. The corvair, well...
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>>16762863
>1986 AW11
I mean the front is basically one giant crumple zone but it's also an 80's tin can with no airbags or any other safety features besides the seat belt.

I'm guessing easy mode likely puts me in the hospital, normal mode probably kills me, and hard mode + is basically instant death.
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>Mitsubishi Mirage

Not even my teeth will remain
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>but it's also an 80's tin can with no airbags or any other safety features besides the seat belt.
Ya, this is my Corolla. I'll just pray for swift death.
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>>16763027
yeah I feel a lot safer now that I have one of these as my DD, my suzuki swift might have a couple more airbags but a family member had the front end crumpled in a foot from a 10mph accident.
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>Volvo 850
I will survive all levels
>ferd zx2
Don't know normal level maybe
>what about bikes? Assuming some how I couldnt scoot by I think I'd be good as long as my head doesn't hit the car
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>>16765929
It's ok anon, we have a tire in the frunk to soften the blow
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77 280z.

I am dead.

but im okay with it
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>>16762863
2017 Mustang, would die on easy mode.
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>>16762924
that's a head on 85 mph crash- driver side impact

yer fucked.

we're all fucked.
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>>16767989
>85
meant 90
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>>16767992
no it isn't, its a 45 mph impact
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>>16767999
You're legit stupid, but hey- you'll probably die sooner. That's good news.
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>>16768001
are you trying to say that two cars going at 45 miles an hour has a similar impact to either car as one car going 90 miles an hour against a wall? because its not
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>>16762863
W12 Phaeton 2433kg airbags everywhere and a 6L engine between me and the active safety systems, Brutal might hurt but I'd still walk away.

My '69 KG would be wrecked instantly by everything but it's LHD so I'd be out of the firing line and the same is true for the '71 181.

The only one likely to cause me serious harm is the BRZ, it may have a good safety rating but lets be honest I'd be sideways at the point of impact with bugger all relative protection.
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>>16768005
feel free to try it
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>>16762863
Pic similar but not my truck.

My dad survived an accident just like this. The speed limit on the road was 50 so he was probably going 45 when the accident occurred. From what I understood a car was cutoff on the opposite side causing someone to swerve onto oncoming traffic. Amazingly he survived. The other car was totaled, don't know how our little truck held up. Honestly it should have been written off as well because the steering wasn't straight and it made a lot more nosie and rattles after it was "fixed".
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>>16768012
you're a fucking retard.

if you assume that both cars are the same, then two cars hitting each other at 45 mph will cause the same damage to both of them than one will at 45 mph. because BOTH cars absorb energy you retard
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>>16768012
Je is right the deceleration is equivalent to a 45mph impact into a wall. To be equivalent to a 90mph impact into a wall you would need to have a delta velocity of 90mph in other words your car would need to be propelled backwards ay 45mph. This is the sort of basic physics that showed up how bad mythbusters were because they simply didn't understand it.
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>>16768023
than one will at 45 mph against a wall, not 90 mph*
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>>16762863
>Subaru wagon
Bretty safe
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>>16768012
You're wrong m8, the wall is an immovable object, the two cars are not.

The wall doesn't have crumplezones or wheels. It's just a fucking wall.
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>>16765018
>Explorers are unibody now
Fuck, what is this world coming to?
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How would my 95 ls400 fare against the Crown Victoria?
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>>16768012
please leave 4chan until you learn basic physics thank you
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>>16764600
I'm always cautious as fuck on two lane roads. Having to go slow temporarily until I get enough visibility to safely pass is better then being dead or paralyzed and never being able to drive again or shit without help.
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>>16762863
>2005 Chevy Cobalt
Pretty fucked at normal, dead beyond.
>1982 DeLorean DMC-12
The thing went through a metal gate only slightly denting the hood. No airbags though. Car will do okay, but I'm dead at normal.
>2013 Freightliner Cascadia + fully loaded Utility 3000D
HAHAHAHAHA. Truck's fucked, but I walk away at all levels. Other cars are now fields of debris.
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>drive Crown Vic
>crashes completely through tiny Europoor egg-shaped abort-a-car like a toddler dumping a bin of Lego bricks, noise is inaudible over the soothing tones of Woodie Guthrie on the tape deck
>crashes into the Focus, sending it off-track in a barrel roll that would make Slippy proud, driver notices a slight bump in the road and wonders if his air suspension needs a sixth replacement, thankfully his pension will cover it
>makes impact with the opposing Panther body, both cars immediately halt and the drivers are thrown through the windshields from the comfort of their soft leather bench seats as "you know, back in my day we were safter because you got thrown clear of the crash in an accident!" and die immediately. the universe pauses for a moment as two of the hardest metals known to man collide (the first, of course, being a Volvo 240), before simply willing them out of our mortal plane of existence and into Valhalla, where they will ride shiny and chrome to the nearest ethereal Old Country Buffet and be home before 7 PM for an early night of M*A*S*H reruns
>the driver of the Explorer turns around and rethinks life. The Explorer itself also wonders where it all went wrong that it uses the same platform as a unibody crossover, and contemplates driving straight into a semi to end it all.
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>>16763105
Your a big guy
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>>16763906
that... that crash test dummy... in the third test... ITS FUCKING HEAD CAME OFF WHAT THE FUCK?!?!
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haha

>there's crumple so the energy is gone

nope. it's a 90mph impact. go die though.
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>>16768151
jesus christ you are a fucking idiot dude, do you think energy doesnt get absorbed by cars in an impact? are you actually trying to say that if two cars hit each other at 45 miles an hour, they BOTH will get the same effect as if they hit a wall at 90 miles an hour?
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>2001 VX commodore
I might be fine somewhere in between normal and hard maybe?
although i'm not sure if my airbags work.
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>>16762863
I'm sorry for the Policeman.
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>>16768151
>it's a 90mph impact.
6/10. You'll get a lot of replies for this.
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My current car is RHD so I might have a chance.

If we to flip the image so I am driving on the correct side then I'd be fucked.
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>>16768362
Mooie vulva vriend.
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anyone have footage of a crash test with a gc8
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>>16768362

kleine piemel ofzo?
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>>16762863
>1985 Celica Supra
:^)
>1996 Honda Accord
Prob survive up to Hard mode, but I may not have my legs. Easy and normal be aight.
>2004 Subaru WRX
I'd live against them all. Only because the "It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru." crash meme. Fuck yeah.
It wouldn't matter though, because the crash would aerate the oil and I'd immediately spin a bearing and the car would break down anyway.
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>>16763906
wow, no rust, nice one.
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safer than expected
https://youtu.be/yx0uShWhBxk
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>>16768372
Much less than a 6/10, because he has had to keep posting it.
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I'd be fine in all cases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLYdb-TNFLs
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Legitimately no idea. But given that the car was made with rally in mind I think I might be okay.
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New Edge Mustang

100% Dead
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>>16762863

KI survived this exact situation in my brothers Genesis Sedan with a f250.

Body was sore but no injuries but some small cuts
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>>1997 Ford Expedition
Easy thru Hard I'll be fine, probably still driveable once I pull the front bumper away from the tire.

Brutal would probably total it, maybe a few injuries.
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>dodge charger
lmao
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>>16763441
This
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2017 WRX
>dat knee airbag
>dat 8 layers of high tensile steel in the ring shaped reinforcement frame
>dem side impact beams

probably still dead because I'd be going faster than 50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StxR7ZKr5GE
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>>16768028
yeah the wall is even worse because with 2 cars, the stiffer parts and softer parts can sort of mesh to make a uniform softer crumple zone where with a wall you only have one crumple zone to work with. basically you might be able to cumple a little more with 2 cars so 45mph car = 40mph wall maybe?
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>>16762863
2013 Volvo V70, bring it on
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Id be fine desu
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>The Volvo S40 was the first car to earn a four star Euro-NCAP safety rating

i would do easy and medium, no problem. Maybe hard too
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>>16762863

>2012 Corolla

Id probably survive up until Hard Mode.

>2010 Chevy Malibu

This one is better but still questionable. I would def die at Brutal mode but might survive Hard mode but be stuck in a coma.

>2007 CBR1000RR

Should be able to swerve fast enough to avoid but if hit I'm dead on easy mode
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>W204 C-class
Bretty gud
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aw fuk bye
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Miata NA, no airbags
Dead as fuck
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>2014 focus st
Will probably survive the second car, die on the third

>2016 ram 1500
Will make it to the last level, but would be fucked up
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>>16763095
>That in-car view of the Bel Air
Holy shit
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>>16762863

volvo 240

I would insta-kill easy and normal mode.

Would take a bit longer for hard mode.

Might have a problem in brutal mode
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>>16763906
hnnngngg those wheels look goooood
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>>16762937

And I drive a LHD car on RHD roads.

But the roads aren't big enough for 2 cars so often one person has to stop anyway
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I drive a Vic, what would happen in hard mode?
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>>16768504
Dankje vriend.

>>16768512
Nee, rijke vader.
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>>16767984
lol wtf? do they make those out of paper?
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>mfw immortal
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>mfw this is what I rode in as a kid for years and years
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>>16762863
>2015 Focus

Probably fine up to hard mode.

>1998 Forester

Normally totally fucked, but it's a RHD import, so I'd probably walk away from all of them. Wouldn't be able to say the same about any passengers, though.
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>>16770496
I like those. Still would like to own one someday.
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>Platform designed by Volvo

I'll be fine.
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I drive the sedan not the coup, but results should be comparable.

I'd be cool, then I would murder the fuck out of the cunt that hit me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRYXjDweAmY
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>>16764284
Nice 9-3. How's the ownership been? I've been thinking about picking one up.
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