/ORG/: Russian Comfy Edition

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Jeep passed it's WoF, taking it out with a mate next weekend hopefully, and finally got to take it home from my work where it has been for 5 months lol

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>>16749473
Finally someone who knows how to make an OP

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>>16749473
burb posting general?

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>>16749595
NEVEREVER

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Lol, this fucking op image.

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I have some cool ones.
This jump almost costed guy his front axle.

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>>16749809
WAT DE FUCK

>>16749809
>modifying vehicles

>>16749860
>owning a vehicle

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hello friends, rate my build

>>16750010
>knowing and understanding the concept of a "vehicle"

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>>16750021
Get off this gen and never come back.

>>16750041
>transporting one's self from one location to another

>>16750080
>thinking that you are a single being and the universe expiriencing itself

>>16750098
>existing

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>>16750133
>he hasn't transcended into a meme

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So a buddy of mine said Murphy needs an "I'm not a rapist" sticker on the back. I thought it was a joke until I saw how it looks parked under a street light in the back of a deserted carpool parking lot.

>>16749595
Ayyyyyyyy! Any progress on the 6.5 swap? Still curious on how you'll get a TCM to speak to an OBD2 PCM in regards to running a FB2 in there.

>>16749809
Russia has mall crawlers? This makes me sad.

>>16750021
Seems unfinished. What does the end game look like?

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>>16750385
I have a TCM that will work if I swap to a 91-93 80e. But my 97 80e has stronger internals. (IIRC they upgraded them in 94, 96, and 99) So I need a TCM from a 94+ 6.5 NA van, or I can go aftermarket. Local yard is parting a 94 P30, I need to call them up and see if it's a 6.5.

>Bought an HX35W because I didn't feel like cleaning the H1C to paint it
It's supposed to spool faster but the shaft assembly feels heavier. Could just be bearings aren't broken in? I'll probably put a wicked wheel in it.

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Sup /org/, I have some money coming into my hands soon, and I made the decision to trade in my 4WD RAV4 for something a little more hardcore.

Currently I'm trying to decide between a '04 Tacoma, '12 fj cruiser, '03 4runner, and a '99 land cruiser.

Leaning towards the land cruiser or the Tacoma, but I wanted to see what you guys thought, and what things would factor into the decision(room for improvement, cost of upkeep, part availability, integrity overall, etc.)

They are all stock, Tacoma somehow isn't rusted, is at 130k miles. I live in Tennessee and would take it out probably most weekends for respectable trails, but nothing insane. It would also get used for commuting, but that's not a priority.
The land cruiser is an i6, and in pretty decent condition, 150k. The fj is my uncles and he's used it mostly on pavement 110k. The 4runner has 80k, but has some cosmetic damage on both passenger side doors from sideswiping a pole, as well as being owned by a teenager who no doubt drove it like shit.

Unfortunately they are all automatic, so I'm unsure if that means I should not consider any of them. I drove a manual in high school, but automatic since. How important is it for offroading?

They are all decently priced. Mods would come later, and I'm less concerned about their cost than I am the initial investment. Although if someone has advice for ease of modding that would be helpful too.

>>16750592
The Tacoma isn't much more hardcore. You're just trading off wheelbase for a little more suspension travel, mostly in the rear.

I'm not big on yoters but my vote would be for the Land Cruiser.

There are several things I find worrying about your post.
First is the fanboyism coming from looking at vastly different vehicles that are related only by brand name.
The second is that you consider any Toyota "decently priced"
The third and most important, is that you think automatic is a disadvantage on trails. Automatic is an advantage for the predictability and ease of use on trails. Manual is fun to hoon in but let's be real you don't want to be traversing long trails making use of all three feet...

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>>16750617
I'm quite new. Yeah I like toyotas, but I figured it wouldnt matter since they are all in good shape. What I should have said instead of decently price is that I'm fine paying what they're all asking. The manual point was a question from ignorance.


I was mainly hoping for advice as to what would make people decide one over the other, as I am not really informed as to what matters.

Basically, I came in because every time I google offroading shit, it's just blogs/forums from wranglers or videos about mods without a lot of explanation.

>>16750645
Obviously you don't want a greyhound bus but length isn't as important as many here make it out to be. They're just fans of small "cute" vehicles and try to justify it. You can wheel any of them. Buy the one you like the most and make it work. All have shortcomings, but that's what mods are for. I've seen Wrangler guys go on about how difficult a trail is and about how great their Wranglers are only to be followed down the same trail by a crew cab F250 taking it with ease.
Buy one. Wheel it. Gain experience. Use that experience to figure out what you'd like to change about the vehicle. Figure out how to change that. Often those mods you didn't understand in the beginning will start to make sense once you have some context as to the purpose behind them.

My biggest issue with Toyota 4x4s is that for what you'd pay for a stock one, you'd have a pretty good build with anything else. Financially they just don't make sense to buy into the years that most people use for this stuff. Paying $6000 for a Toyota when a comparable 4x4 from a different manufacturer is $2000 because you think the Toyota "holds more value" is absolutely retarded, and yet people do it every day. Ignore the brand. Nothing holds more value than something that is already finished depreciating.

>>16750021
I like the ghetto snorkel

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>>16750021
>that fucking snorkel

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Uaz 469 reportin in

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>>16750592
L A N D C R U I S E R

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>>16750680
T..thanks desu, can you or anyone else give a probable list of mods that would need to be made for the LC and what I'd be looking at paying?

>>16750765
Is it gud

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>>16750385
Nah, only japs do this kind of thing.
Lol i can share some old photos taken by me and of me. These are from 1999, one of the first offroad competition here

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>>16751386
Of horse not.

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Buying a 3inch add a leaf lift with lower control arms from rough country on my 98 Xj. Does anyone know if the kit is complete or if I'd need anything else? I've never lifted a vehicle before.

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>>16751386
Good off-road? yeah, takes me where i want.
the thing about soviet cars like this is that they just don't care too much where you're driving.

Is it comfy? hell no
is it silent? pfft its a soft top.
is it warm? If you wear tulup and ushanka then yes.

But it is hell a' fun to drive!
And parts are dirt cheap.

Could someone plz gib quick rundown on the solid axle vs ifs debate?

>>16752167
No.

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Current stage of my build: Unsure of whether or not to upgrade my shitty lift kit(RC 2.2 2.5" kit) to a better brand and 3.5" or put in lunchbox locker up front n selectable in the rear.

>>16752167
no

>>16751321
Just fuck off. Nothing worse than borderline retarded millenials who want their hand held and given a paint by numbers build.

>>16752212
Why lift it more? Low is good for short wheelbase. Want to install bigger tires? You'll need some stronger axles first.

Just skid plate the bottom

>>16752328
Also if/when you upgrade to Dana 60s you can fit bigger tires with no extra suspension lift by trimming the body or buying hiline fenders.

>>16750592
How much is even " some money"?

Also where are you

>>16752378
~$10k at most.
Tennessee.

>>16752238
I will not fuck off, I simply was looking for handout information, never made an attempt at saying I wasn't. Figured since it was a general no one would care

>>16752212
Michigan bro?

>>16752328
>>16752336
Honestly, aesthetic. I would like it to be a little higher. Eventually going to go to a set of 37s once these tires are done (35s right now) I've got a truss/gusset kit for the D30 in the garage I'm waiting for the time off work to burn in.

I have been tossing around the idea of building up some one ton axles for some time but who knows really. Know a guy selling a set for $600 an hour away from here, deciding factor here is how much I'm willing to dig in and tear apart a '14 which right now isn't very much.

Could run 40s right now without any issues since I cut the stock fenders and run low offset rims other then eventually grenading my front axle...

>>16752408
Ontariobro
I think hes got the yellow YJ

>>16752403
Buy an XJ sitting on 33-35 tires for under $5000 (lots of them around with solid bumpers) and use the other $5000 to buy a daily.
Use your rav 4 money to maintain both of them for the next 3 years (depending on how "fun" you want the daily)

>>16752336
Do you happen to know where I can find an LSD for the Dana 60 in my ferd? Back axle btw

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>tfw no qt suzuki to lift

>>16752427
Why the ever living fuck do you want to do that. Aren't you poor?

>have '89 MJ project
>considering finally selling my bought-new econobox daily for a '99-01 XJ (fixed heads of course)
How stupid is this
How terrible would my luck have to be for the crank sensor to go out on both at once

>>16752409
With 37s you'll eventually pop a rear axle shaft. Unfortunately for you the rear axle is not full floating, so the wheel will walk it's way out once the axle shaft breaks. That's one of the many upsides of 1 ton axles, full float rear, so if you break an axle shaft, which is unlikely, you can still drive out.

With 40s your axles would barely hold together on the street. That Dana 30 won't like 37s at all either. Don't waste money on either stock axle, just save up for the rock jock Dana 60s that just bolt in using the stock suspension setup, they have the brackets already welded on for them to bolt right in. That's the easiest way to upgrade axles, regular one tons are not super expensive to buy, but once you've rebuilt them, regeared them and installed lockers and new brackets to bolt them under your jeep you'll be in at the same price or lower then just buying a prebuilt rock jock Dana 60. Plus then you have to run 8 lug wheels, with the rock jock axles they will use the same stock 5 lug so you can keep running your current wheels.

>>16752433
I love it!

>>16752427
What spline axle shafts is it?

>>16752167
Long story short, no one that wants to do serious offroading should have IFS. If all your doing is basic overlanding it'll do what you want though. (Pack some extra joints)

>>16752540
baja senpai

>>16752550
didn't we tell you faggots a while ago that driving in the sand off road really fast isn't offroading? fuck outta here

>>16752573
baja is a form of off road
no it's not crawling
crawling isn't the only version of off road
fucking retard

>>16752167
Unless you're running 50+mph through the desert, SFA > IFS

If you tell someone with IFS that SFA is better their defense is that they don't "need" SFA. But that's moving the goalposts. No one NEEDs SFA, it's just better.

>>16752756
Could I still do 50+ in the desert? As in is the IFS simply better in that case, or completely necessary for safety?

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>>16752813
IFS is better for that case, but is not required. Just have to be extra careful with the suspension and and steering geometry to ensure you have ZERO bump steer

>>16752861
>>16752813
>>16752756
>>16752705
I enjoy the fact that both /ORG/s (one capped and this one) have now both resulted into IFS shitposting.

We strongly need some sort of copy pasta to settle the debate in one post instead of 50

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>not having ifs AND irs

fucking plebs

>>16752938
>no dual i beams tho
lmao

i'll take $400 for "prerunner questions", alex

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>>16752938
>Not having 6wd with air lockers.
>not being a diesel
>not having 340:1 gearing reduction
>not having 42 inch tires
> not being on full floated axles
>Not serving in vietfuckingnam
>not carrying 5 tons of cargo, 30 troops and towing a howitzer
Fucking pleb

>>16753070
>howitzer
>vietnam
Thanks for pruning the trees in the jungles, anon

>6wd of air lockers
>5 hours of inflation and deflation
nah

>>16752924
This one's not shitposting though.

>>16753227
yet

>>16753083
Aww, what, you think I'm using arbs compressor? I got 120psi on tap. And pruning trees? I rip those bitches down. Enjoy playing in the sand box.

>>16753271
So far so good, IFSfag.

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>His front suspension isn't a strong independent black woman

>>16753355
I have a solid jeep. But nice try, IFSfag :^)

>be downtown
>no parking spaces in parallel park area
>pull an acura in front of a fire hydrant with my 20k lb winch
>park where he used to be
Damn /org/ life is comfy

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Bronco II or Ranger for offroading? Which is the better platform? Which will be cheaper to maintain?

>>16749473
>5 bros with matching cars...
>wait, only 4 cars

what's that one dude doin

>>16753942
>specifies bronco generation
>doesn't specify which generation ranger despite it having a longer year of service
Also why something from GM or Toyota?

>>16753942
Skele-truck

>>16753951

I was rec'd a bronco by my buddy for their durability because he has one but he also owns a miata so I'm not sure to trust his advice.

What dirt cheap cars do you rec then?

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>>16752924
We already settled it several times over... It just keeps coming back up though. The people that bring it up aren't even beating a dead horse anymore. It has already gone through a meat grinder and sold as Prime meat at a "suspiciously low price". The people bringing this debate up are just swinging clubs at nothing at this point.

>>16750419
Dat turbo

>>16751394
That really looks fun! I wish we did stuff like that where I live.

>>16753975
Those bronco and k5s are pretty good if you can find them without rust. Both are great vehicles. What's your budget? Our resident swiftposter has more information since he's the fordcuck here.

>>16754146

About 1k since I'm still paying off school and I plan to use this as a weekend hoon wagon

What does /org/ think about an off-road miata for shits and giggles?

>>16754283
Will cost around $5000 to upgrade with the appropriate tires and lifts and bumper guards. 1k will not be enough to buy and maintain (especially with the off chance of a used vehicle requiring some fix) and old offroader.

>>16754329

The lift kits I'm looking at for Miata's are pretty steep, I might just stick to a bronco or K5 depending on what's available.

>tfw no baja bug under 1500 in your area

>>16754353
for $1500 it'll be rusty as shit. buy it and run it into the ground. the most fun offroaders are the ones you can slam at 15mi into a tree and not care about. good luck anon

>>16754364
I'd argue that the best offroaders are ones that aren't totaled when you do dumb shit with them even if you're not worried about them. $1500 is a good chunk of money.

>>16754498
put a solid bumper with a stinger on any offroader with rock guards and strong skid plates and that's the point

i was just pointing out that due to the rust, you can bump into trees and rocks with them and not care about the dents you make. don't go driving into large stumps tho

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>>16753070
IS
THIS
BLUE
MEMELORD
CRUISER
GAL

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>>16754524

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>>16754618
>>16754524

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>>16754524
>>16754618
>>16754642
Welcome to baneposting general. First rule is you don't get to bring friends. Second rule is not to tell anyone anything.

>>16750057
ppl are using him now?

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>>16754673
Yes. The fire rises, brother.

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>>16754524
no but i am

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>>16754838
sup faggot

>>16754840
>saving my ebin memes without asking

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>>16754850
oops forgot my ebin meme

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>>16754850
what ebin memes you cuck

>>16754858
>forgetting your ebin memes
you deserve to be robbed and your truck deserves to be shot

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>>16754865
>he says while posting another one of my ebin memes

>>16754881
pls no

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>>16754914

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>>16754945
i am going to fucking kill you

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Just ordered General Grabber AT2s for my 3rd gen 4Runner (more or less stock, factory E-locked)

Hoping to be less of a bitch near mud holes this summer. Did not get M/Ts as this is very much a daily driver and road-trip vehicle.

>>16754516
>put a solid bumper with a stinger on any offroader
That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works. A stinger does fuck all for structural integrity and a bumper is is only as good as the frame it is bolted to.

>>16755345
ever hit a deer on the freeway with a stinger before? plus the skid plates really tenderizes the thing

>>16754524
Not sure about the blue or memes.

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Yellow yj guy here, I bet you don't set off 3 car alarms with your exhaust on your way home from work

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>>16755600
what about my butthole exhaust?

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>>16755600
>>16755606
this is exhausting guys

>>16755383
Stingers aren't for deer, stingers are for preventing forward rollovers on steep descents. A good bumper would offer better protection for deer but all it does is transfer energy so if your frame folds from the impact the vehicle is still fucked even if the bumper is still straight. I've seen multiple mostly undamaged aftermarket bumpers pushed into the front of a then totaled truck.

>>16755689
I'm not him but stingers actually help deer go under the vehicle or push them otherwise aside. The way they're shaped and positioned can actually help them brush under them. Otherwise, yeah. Only get a stinger for rock climbing balance when you have a short vehicle.

Or rear ending some SUV and smashing through his rear window instead of his bumper :^)

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>>16755600
so what happens when your brake lines snap?

>>16755732
I die, because I didn't put the new ones on

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>>16755742
o..o...oh ok i guess

>>16755771
you mean oh otay?

>>16755785
no currently on taystrike until tayrims are replaced

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>>16755771
For anyone who doesn't have a clue about what we are talking about

>>16755800
that's it. i'm going on a yellow yj strike too

>>16752436
Because I want to go drag racing and one tire fires are slow

>>16752466
Not sure, how do I find out?

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>>16756029
>nobody here likes initial d
>posting lies on the internet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiWk8U7iArg

>>16755800
>brake lines not the limiting factor in suspension travel

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you guys are a bunch of obnoxious niggers goodnight

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This guy about 4 hours away has a 1990 Isuzu Amigo with 4WD and tons of work recently done at 159k,, but claims that it won't run bc of some engine issue. He wants $500. Good first project?

>>16756279
For sure. You can probably part it out for more than $500 if you wait long enough, too.

>>16756279
Sounds dodgy but only $500 so why not

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>>16756609
it's not a dodge. it's an isuzu.

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>Night off this week!
>3rd shift, nothing to do
>Tinkering around with Murphy
>Find electrical load manager that's unplugged
>Hook it back up
>Headlight wig-wags start working
>Fender lights now work
whoops.................

>>16756917
Congratz wtf is a wig wag

>>16755054
Its a decent all round tire, I have em on my Jeep. Doesn't self clean very well but still half decent going through a small mud hole.

>>16755054
Great all terrain tire, just keep the tire speed up, gas pedal down while going thru the mud, and you'll be fine. I've used them in icy and muddy off road conditions, did very well for a standard all terrain.

>attach winch to rock sliders
>find parking spot just wide enough downtown
>1 inch each side
>hammer in land anchor onto sidewalk pavement
>drag vehicle into parking spot
Damn /ORG/ life is comfy

>>16757277
Looks like that alternating headlight thing that's going on in the gif

>>16752041
>parts are dirt cheap
that's definitely good keeping in mind how often russian stuff breaks

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A N G E R Y

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Did someone say stickers

I know this isn't really off road but I figure you guys are the best to ask, maybe. I'm downgrading from a full size chevy to a mid size bc I'only use the bed for motorcycle transportation a few times a year. It's between the frontier and Tacoma 2wd shitboxes. Is the Tacoma worth the general 3-6k extra? I'm looking at a desert runner trim frontier that's a good 4k cheaper than a comparable Tacoma. All my friends who've had frontiers say the are shit and I should just get spend extra and get the taco. Any thoughts would be appreciated again I know this isn't really /org/ but there is no /truck/ and usual truck threads are just filled with trolls.

>>16759432
were you the one who started that thread which turned into tacoma ranger and frontier shitposting about rust?

>>16759470

No I remember that though. that's the kind of shit why I don't want to start my own thread. I live in California anyways so the rust issue isn't really a problem for me.

>>16759491
lmao i remember that thread too

>>16759432
have you looked into older suvs? if you're in cali, an old bronco or k5 might be worth it because no rust.

older frontiers are fine. they're just no tacos. rangers and s-10s are also good.

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>>16759350
my fucking neck

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>>16759350
WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE OUR /ORG STICKER!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

http://watracing.com/?product=off-road-general

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Thread needs more best gen Dodge

>Tfw you have a pile of parts to finish your big block swap but no time to put it all together

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>>16759806

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>>16759819
Daily dose of big block Mopar

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>>16759806
anon are you trying to pitch a tent because your D is up.

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>>16759806
>>16759819
>>16759838
Ayyyyyyy! I haven't seen you here in a while. What do you need to do on the swap yet?

>No time
I know the feeling. My truck is still leaking oil. I work 3rd shift 6 days a week though so I have just gotten used to topping the oil off every now and then, all the while hoping my landlord doesn't notice the driveway is turning blacker than my ex's heart.

At least putting in all these hours allows my to squirrel money away to work on Murphy with when I do get some free time.

>>16760140
>valley pan gasket
>plugs and plug wires
>points conversion kit
>tcase shifter
>brake booster

i worked overnight in a bottling plant for a year back when, i feel you there

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>>16749473

Is the UAZ Hunter often used for off-roading in Russia?

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(((Jeep)))

>>16760669

Why even bother asking?

Yes.

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I hope y'all are as excited for the 2020 Ford™ Bronco™ as I am

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>>16760997
DELETE THAT FUCKING POST YOU GODAMN NIGGER JEW

Anon with the spare YJ fuel tank skid plate, have you had a chance to measure it yet?

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>>16759779
>http://watracing.com/?product=off-road-general
Because it's not a die cut? Or is it?

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QUICK RECOMMEND ME OFFROAD CARS FOR AROUND 1K

>>16761406
xj

>>16760669
It's mostly used as an excuse for living in garage.

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>>16761435
stolen xj

>>16761463
:,(

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>mfw three separate groups of friends cancel on me to go to the desert this weekend
Looks like I'm not going to TDS this weekend. Going to some shitty Subaru meet instead

>>16757823
Why should i care how often russian parts break?
I have never owned a Russian made car.
This as you probably didn't even read in the post you commented on is a soviet made car.
In 1981 it was made for the war in afghanistan but never went so it has been in daily use as transport vehicle at the "Over the horizon" radar in revda.
I have went through every square cm of the car now and nothing has been replaced since. (Except for the usual oil, oil filter etc..)
It still runs like a clock and has far better reliability than the chevy tahoe i used to own (wich ate parts like there was no tomorrow)

>>16761054
Derp, meant TJ.

>>16761406
GET A FUCKING SAMURAI

>day at the beach
>was a good day, packing to leave
>see car stuck in sand and water is getting closer
>decide to help
>fucking balls, they are all drunk af
>too late to back off
>suggest pulling him out, suggest using your special flexy tow rope
>owner refuses, says he got awesome rope himself, recovered truck with it
>it's cheapest chinese rope
>okay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-cwKGAZ2M

>>16749664
you stupid cock

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How's everyone doing? Sleeping 4 hrs and overworked this week. Eh.
Also!
>mfw
>couldve done a 3 night overland next week fri-mon
>called to attend conference Thurs - Sun
>group mandatory price $100 includes $20 bus fee
>eats it and decides to drive up instead wasting $30 in fuel
>probably going to take back roads wasting another $10 in fuel
>at least I still get the Sunday night???
>tfw could've overlanded but instead just driving down maintained back roads eating mcdonald's and listening to T. Swizzy and Kristofferson
At least I'm not 2wd so no tears tyvm

Depending on the weather, I might just sleep in my trucc bed instead of wherever they are

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>>16762916
Please tell me you left them there afterwards

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>>16763792
THINGS ARE NOT NICE

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>>16763792
>at least I'm not 2wd
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16763802
You are not nice

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Happy weekend /ORG/. How'd you spend your Saturday?

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>>16765102
No more plastic wheel covers!
Looks good, dude

Also
>Saturday

>>16765164
Meh my weekend is Friday and Monday.

nb for useless post

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>>16765102
why don't you just go bare wheels?

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>>16765102
Finally tay those look much better on the trugg :^)
gib more photos

>>16763792
>>16763804
>At least I'm not 2wd so no tears tyvm
kekekek

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>>16761054
not yet
work got busy af so i wasn't able to go back to portland
but i'll have my sister in law measure for me
i haven't forgot about you anon!

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>>16765342
bare wheels look so much better than any rim in the current market

>>16765440
>white letters not facing outwards

you're doing it wrong

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what are these rims called?

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>>16765440
Yep that's why I use rims that are no longer used from the factory :^)

Tbh though you're right, most aftermarket rims look like utter shit. I think the only aftermarket wheels I would get would be Pro Comps, but even then I'd get the beefier steelies they have

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>>16765597
AFAIK, the g-wagons are mainly used for CFB support and intracountry training missions. LUVW class vehicles aren't normally deployed by the canadian military anymore (since everything is just taken over by the larger heavy class outside of field support and comms) and i would love to own a surplus one in a couple of years when they start hitting civie markets. not sure if you'd be able to egt the rims, though. considering the whole military contracts specialty makes and all.

>inline 5 diesel
>turbo
>merc powertec
muh dicc

I miss my old colorado's I-5 engine.

>>16765342
>>16765359
protects against many rocks and some larger branches. i'm looking at something to armour the outer lining of the wheels too. doesn't help that they're aluminium. also duratrac walls...

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>>16765666
Here's a picture of the older MILCOT or what they called the "Milverado"s that are still used and around. Nice wheels too.

Rock guard heavy ones are found more on radio com HLVW vehicles instead. Look for those wheels instead of the light support/com trucks.

I just wish the colour wasn't reminiscent of Australian plain packaged tobacco, though.

>>16765697
24 volt?

>>16765697
i see Milverado's all the time at a local tim's

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>>16765793
Not sure what the MILCOTs are on. But I'm almost sure the I-5 G-Wagens are 24V for com support. I like how Mercedes got the Canadian contract for light vehicles, though. Surprised Ferd didn't take it up like all the regional / city police do.
24 would make owning a civie pretty difficult but worth desu.

I'm heading down to CFB Borden next weekend so I can go bombard the people with tact. questions, lmao. Then we can wank off to truccs.

>>16765815
Where at senpai? They're more road worthy since they don't cap out at something stupid like 120kmph like the HLVWs and other light support vehicles.

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>>16755792
Holy shit I just saw this. Weird.
Who r u...

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>>16765875
the look better than the other ones 2bqh

>>16750645
>I'm quite new.

Go to Pirate 4x4. It's beyond god tier. Save /o/ for shitposting.

>>16765905
/o/ is the mecca of the automotive world m8
WE PROVIDE SOLID AUTOMOTIVE ADVICE

>>16765919
So what's /ORG/?

>>16755689
>I've seen multiple mostly undamaged aftermarket bumpers pushed into the front of a then totaled truck.

That's because faggots don't design cushion into their bumper mounts. The sacrificial mount should yield in a crash to protect the truck.

>>16765926
It's like an encyclopedia of infinite off-road knowledge and experience

Better than any other off-road forum or club

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>>16765926
a nice place

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>>16765905
but pirate 4x4 is for people who actually have skill and money

>>16765919
>WE PROVIDE SOLID AUTOMOTIVE ADVICE

In the way Taco Bell provides solid shits....

>>16765597
Hutchinson Beadlocks.

https://www.g-wagenaccessories.com/products/16-inch-hutchinson-beadlock-wheels-vts-wa-1207?variant=12176732865

>>16765941
Making a sacrificial mount doesn't solve anything if it's bolted to literal spaghetti.

>>16765957
They'll scare you into having skill and devoting money.

>>16765824
nova scotia famalam

>>16766066
thanks senpai

>>16766228
CFB Halifax or more rural?

I didn't know we had east coasters on /org/!

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>>16765530
fuck the white letters
i'm not a drag queen

>>16765612
>pro comp
they do make some decent wheels

>>16765953
this is correct

>>16766251
rural but im trying to get into fmf cape scott as a fabricator

>>16766259
Nice. Lots of work there as the steel harbour.

Rural so that'd be CFB Greenwood or so? I wouldn't imagine the Milverados would be too present innacity

>>16766337
oh no im a civilian in a rural area. east hants to be specific

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>>16765612
If you buy anything, it better be FJC TRD wheels with white letter BFGs.

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Hey everyone I dont know if you remember me but this is the guy who brought a suburban for 1400. I think I fucked up buying this cursed truck. Both CV joints ate in very bad shape one of them is actually so bad that the shaft seperated from the joint. The truck has two hundred thirty one thousand miles on it and apparently the rear drums and shoes and everything else would the rearbrakes is original. Also the front and rear differentials and the transfer case is leaking quite badly. And my steering gear box needs to be adjusted to get all teh play out of the steering wheel so simply put I don't think this is a driveable vehicle. I must be cursed to never have something nice

>>16766832
Anyone have a rockauto discount code for this poor bastard?

>>16766832
Drain diffs and t case, refill with gear oil.
Replace CV shafts with junkyard units
Determine if steering play is coming from steering box or rag joint. If steering box, this is a common issue. As long as you can keep it between the lines you'll be fine. If rag joint, replace it.

None of the issues are difficult to fix.

>>16766909
>>16766832
6DCE9647C8CB6F is the GMT400 5% discount.

>>16766912
this this this
differentials wouldn't be leaking from the cases so the worst case situation is the mating surfaces are leaking a bit or rusted. get new caps. t case same issue. cv replace or eat the two hundred new. same thing with steering box.

>>16766832
>paying $1400 and expecting it to be "something nice"
i mean.

>>16766856
no. no dick riding in /org/

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Im going to be working on swapping the ball joints and bearings out on a dana 44 tomorrow, this is new territory for me, anything i should know before digging in?
i fortunately dont have hubs(vacuum axleshaft disconnect) to dick with so thats one level of screwing around i can skip

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>>16766832
>20+ years old
>200,000+ miles
>needs work

Well, no shit. It's been neglected and that's why it was $1400 and not $4000

>diffs leak
Rear axles commonly leak from the pinion shaft seal. Not too difficult a job for a tech (not recommended for a newb) that doesn't require significant disassembly. Probably knock this one out first since it's easy.

Front diffs on these things have the aluminum housing split into halves and they like to leak at the case-half seal. That requires complete removal and disassembly of the front differential assembly (pic related). It's a big job so I'd probably throw a half-shaft at it so you can use the truck and then monitor front diff fluid levels frequently until enough money is on hand to fix it.

Transfer case is similar in that it is a split case design that likes to leak from the case-half seal so it'll have to come out and be disassembled to be resealed. Probably be good to put a drive chain in while you're there before it develops enough slack to literally eat through the case on the slack side. Again, just watch fluid levels until you've got the cash for a fix.

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>>16766832
Forgot
>steering slack
Find and fix any steering items with any free play first. If it still has steering wheel free play on-center then the box has to be rebuilt (or a rebuilt installed, whatever) because adjusting the sector shaft preload (pic related) doesn't really work. I mean, it will give the feel of less free play on-center but at the cost of the box not returning to center on it's own so the truck won't go straight and you'll have to make continual corrections just to maintain a lane and that gets annoying really quick. You can use a parts store pos rebuilt if you want but Redhead Steering Gears is generally considered to be as good as you can get in rebuilt boxes now.

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/ORG/ actually answers >>16766832's question instead of berating him for 4 threads.

and people say we're the worst general on this boards...

>>16765824
Probably 24v to be able to hook up to all the other nato trucks.

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>>16767632
>and people say we're the worst general on this boards
is this real?
who says this?
/org/ is a nice place
/org/ is a general of peace

>>16767635
you spellted "NATO cucks" wrongly

but yeah. makes sense. that'd make buying a civie version rather annoying. though, you could just buy the civie version because they literally make one for civilians :^)

[spoiler]but then you don't get that Australian plain packaging colour[/spoiler]

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>>16767650
>general of peace

Convince me not to get a mexicant f350 crew cab flatbed for 2k and lift it into the sky

>>16767701
>mexicant f350
does it smells like beans?

>>16767701
Hilux instead senpai

>>16767754
I don't have $14,000 to spend on a truck from the 80s

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>>16767684
oy vey shut /org/ down goymin

>>16749473
Thinking about getting a 97' TJ with 88k miles for 5k. Guy says he replaced most ware parts and it looks bone stock, with minimal rust. Should I? Or there's an 01 Wrangler sport for 6k but needs a clutch and has something interfering with the starter. Small lift, new BFG's, snorkle, and aftermarket front bumper. Both have soft tops.

>>16766832
no offense but what were you expecting with a 20 year old truck with 230k that you bought for fucking $1400? obviously it will need some serious work did you not realize that going into it? my truck needed a shitload of stuff when i bought it too and I paid 4x what you paid

>>16768576
Are you planning on doing things to it? If so, then wait for a modified TJ or YJ. If not, then buy it.

Bone stock TJs normally command more money especially if they're nice without rust. But they have less /ORG/ value, though.
$5k is pre cheap for an I6 IF there's nothing wrong with it like he says

a buddy of mine is selling 4 for 37 inch bf goodrich all terrain fior 1000 dollars. should i buy them? do you guys have any opinions on those tires?

>>16769367
Holy shit this question comes up every thread.

If you're buying 37 inch tyres, shouldn't you know what you're doing already? $1000 is pretty cheap for bfg 37s. Check treads.

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>>16765440
Ditto, I like steelies as they're cheap and easy to replace. I'll probably switch back to some low offset alloys one of these days..

>>16766066
>Hutchinson Beadlocks.
>$600 each
Worth, or not?

The other point is if I get 16 inch rims, they'll be pretty much universal and retain some of their resale value later down the line.

>>16769423
they are brand new. i was just wondering if anyone has opinions on the tires, since i haven't used them ever.

>>16749473
Alright guys help me out here. My buddy has a early 2000s Jeep Cherokee 4 door in decent shape, 180k ish miles, little rust but not bad, but has a leaking headgasket. It's the 4.0L I6 engine. He's leaving for Europe monday and I said I'd give him $500 cash for it and he said sure.

How hard is it to replace a hg on one of these? Or is it worth to replace it? I figure at $500 I can't really lose on it and could probably resell it for what I paid for it. Any ideas?

>>16769956
here is a pretty good video on hg replacement.

https://youtu.be/O8crmszBklE

>>16769635
>>16769423
That's pretty damn cheap and worth the money. They might have some road noise issues depending on the specific make but you wouldn't be worried about that when running 37s.

What model are they?

>>16770074

T/A KO

>>16770103
Yeah they're the budget (younger) version of the KO2s. Still very capable but worth the increase to KO2s. They're louder and also suffer from bad "fuel economy".

However, in your situation, I'd take the cheap hit. Quick search in the onterrible off road store has them for $1550 for the set of four.

>>16769367
WHAT BFGs, how old, and how much tread is left?

>>16770220
Read the replies to the guy.

They're >>16769635 brand new and >>16770103 KOs. Also established that they're very cheap for 37s.

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>>16769469
i love the steelies
simple and functional

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Hey /org/, just bought a 4x4, 1985, 2.8l, S10 Blazer.
Want to get
> a 2-3" suspension lift
>A pushbar with a winch
>Tail light guards
>Roof rack w/ lights and tool holders
You can answer me piece by piece or all 4 at once.

>>16770498
>that
>what
>why
>how

>>16770498
>is
>price
>are
>much

>>16770498
>a
>range
>you
>is

>>16770498
>good
>?
>buying
>the

>>16770498
>idea
>[Placeholder]
>light
>rack

>>16770498
>!
>[Placeholder]
>guards
>?

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>>16770526
>>16770531
>>16770539
>>16770546
>>16770551
>>16770561
Is this a form of autism?

>>16770526
Thanks, I know it's a good idea, that's why I'm doing it.
Prefer to keep it all under 2k if I can go to a junk yard for the gaurds and pushbar, even better.
Lights would be to assist in offroading at night and general visability.

>vehicle is advertised as being an off road vehicle
>has none of the features common to off road vehicles besides 4WD
Why do car manufacturers do this?

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>>16771047
normies eat this shit up that's why

why do you think cuckutlity vehicles are selling so well?
>i wanna be a rouged individual
>look at my active lifestyle
>i wanna be a real offroader without ever offroading
all this stuff with modern cars really makes me sad

>>16771290
Vaping, ukulele toting, nu-male fucking, nu-male being, lens-less glasswes wearing, "photographer" Jeep owners

>>16771047
Do SUVs sell?
Yes.
>oh but i go up north every six months so i need a 4wd "off roader"

Can I get a schnell gestalt goyim?>>16770498

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>>16766832
Keep your head up pal.

Besides the CV joints everything else can be limped along until you get the cash to repair or replace. You've still got a very solid truck considering the price you paid.

Also, when we met up you said my truck was awesome. You think my truck doesn't have its fair share of problems?

Sometimes instead of looking at the entire forest and getting overwhelmed you have to focus on the situation on a tree-to-tree basis

>>16772041
Very wise words.

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>>16772041
>www. .com

hmmmmm what are u meaning by this?

i know

www./org/.com :^)

STAY WITH ME /ORG/

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>>16773050
where are we staying anon-kun?

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>>16767051
fuck ball joints...
spent all day changing one goddamn side.
ended up having to take the knuckle to the neighbors to put in the big press because the rental press does fuckall.
on the bright side the bearings were the easiest ive ever done.

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>>16773093
>dat hole
>when your bearings literally take a shit on you

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>>16773072
WHAT DID YOU TELL THEM

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>>16773124
no bearing there, the spindle supports the outer half and the inner has seal all the way back in by the carrier. so thats just an empty tube.
i just tarded out and forgot to lift the open end so it wouldn't drool.
i also need a bigger picklefork

>>16773124
You don't know how a solid axle works, do you?

>>16773150
>>16773162
sry am incredibly drunk

i meant to type "bearings" but it came out as "bearings"

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>>16773150
>moog parts

>>16773200
How did you think you spelled bearings, and how did that change the definition?

>>16773220
FUCk

i meant ball joints. i read it literally while typing and for some reason kept typing bearings.

>>16751554
anon are you still here. i can answer your question but only if you respond with "yes anon i am here bls help"

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>>16773241
get some coffee dude, jesus


>>16773203
i dont like having to go back and do shit over again when i can help it.

>tfw simplest hubs possible.
so much easier than fords autohub fuckery

>>16773279
Did you meet this >>16772041 birbfag, too?

or are you a different one?

>>16773279
Jesus dude just get Warn lockouts for $50. You'll save on gas as well as u joint wear.

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>>16773279
>i dont like having to go back and do shit over again when i can help it.

ain't that the truth
nothing sucks more than having to go back and redo work because of stupid shit

>>16773303
maybe later on, money isnt allowing for much else right now.
just tires and wheels are ordered and i need to keep enough funding for two weeks in the utah desert in a few weeks

>>16773302
no idea who that guy is

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>>16772059
>It's whatever you want it to be...

Previous owner had a movie company in Pittsburgh. He painted the truck with rattle can bed liner and used it as a promo truck. The company website was on the back window and was peeling pretty bad. Since the "www." And the ".com" were still good I kept them.

>>16773314
I'm one of the burb guys in Michigan. Who are you? Burbalade? Someone else?

>>16766832
You done fucked up. Did you not test drive it and get under it with a torch? No sympathy. If you don't know what you're looking at then take someone who does.

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When was the last time you were actually using all your ride's offroad potential and was glad you got 4wd?

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>>16773928
someone else, i have the blue (no)power ram in WA

>>16775084
last time i went to eastern WA to check on our cabin.

>>16775084
Like 3 days ago.

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>>16775084
every time I browse 4chan
if i had 2wd I would constantly get stuck with in all the shitposting

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>>16775084
>glad you got 4WD

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>>16775711
This desu.

I climb loamy-dirt hills once a month for work. With my old Colorado, I would just leave it with the people for them to tow their tractors up but so far they've been paying me $100 more in order to drive up a 50-150m hill. I'm getting less clients now that I got my 4wd but should pick up again this Autumn.

I need to get myself a good ground anchor. Anyone know of good makes or is it hard to fuck a large 50lb piece of steel in terms of build quality?

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Are second gen 4runners capable and reliable?

>>16776086
Nope, Toyotas are a shitty meme, they are overpriced junk. But to be fair so are jeep wranglers...

>>16776105
I'm only asking because the second gens are super cheap where I'm at. There's a clean 5 speed one that needs head work listed for $1100 on my local CL.

>>16776086
Yes they are a good choice for weekend wheeling/DD duty. Most who have the money get a 3rd gen as it is better in most ways (more power, no headgasket issues, more efficent, better on-road ride, available locker). But the 2nd gen is a solid rig. Torsion bar based IFS is sturdier than 3rd gen wishbone (lower balljoint failure possible). Just make sure the motor is sorted if its a V6. Rust is the biggest problem up north, but out West that is a non-issue.

>>16776105
Disregard what I assume is an XJ shill

>>16776134
XJs are also junk, but cheaper priced junk then wranglers or Toyotas. All older Toyotas are underpowered and shit to work on. Full size shit with a V-8 is where its at...

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Saw this Pinz today, thought y'all might like it.

>>16776187
Fair enough. Although around here XJs are getting to be every bit as overpriced as 'yotas. Then again there are plenty of guys with K5 Blazers and Broncos with the whole "I know what I got" attitude slinging rusted out crap.

>>16776214
Depends on where you are, but most 4wds, especially once they've installed a lift and tires, they think their shit is worth 2-3 times what the KBB value is... LOL

>>16776105
THIS. They're okay, but they are absolutely not the god machines their price would suggest.

XJs are at least quite often priced according to their shittiness.

>>16776105
Well sure. But the wranglers have the novelty factor plus being one of the last widely available AMC products ever.
Overrated, yes. Still good? Yes.

>m-muh removable doors and custom everything

>>16776214
Where is "here"?

XJs are still like $1500 here

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>>16753070

I never understood how the military used these to haul so much. Without cargo, they weigh almost 13,000 lbs. Yet they only have like 135 hp and 330 ft lbs of torque. Sounds like it would be terrifying to haul 10,000 pounds in one.

>>16776491
They're geared to like 6.17 or some shit. You're not getting anywhere fast but they'll pull down a house.
Same with the CUCVs. A stock K30 diesel is usually geared to 3.73, the CUCVs were geared to 4.56.

>>16776491
muh low range and lack of high speeds

also see: multi-fuel engines. ever reloaded your semi on the tarmac siphoning out jet fuel from airbuses?

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Hopefully picture isn't fucking sideways. My pathfinder in Bumblebee, Arizona

>>16776616
Hey speaking of re-gearing, since upgrading the tyre sizes and not doing anything else, muh Taynger is sitting at 4.8 something right now. Those 4wxs have a stock 4.10 gear which was already ridiculous. Does this help with general towing capacity?

I haven't bothered to regear since it's more hassle than worth. I was looking into the lockers, too so came across this "issue." With all the highway driving, it would make more sense to buy a samurai or heep instead of the gear swaps.

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>>16776636
here you go, anon <33

hope you're having fun out there!

>>16776647
that high of a gearing will fuck your towing capacity. you would barely be able to get started on a hill if you're towing a JEWP on a trailer with a shitty ford ranger on 4.80

>>16776647
Taller tires do the same as a taller gear (lower numerically) If you have a well balanced vehicle to start with, shorter tires will give you more effective power since the same work is done to travel a shorter distance, and taller tires will give you better highway fuel economy since the same work is done to travel a further distance. But going to too tall of a gear or tire can hurt economy as the engine has to overcome a greater force due to having less mechanical advantage.

What is you current gear ratio, what size tires did you upgrade from and to, how do you want the vehicle to perform compared to how it performed before the upgrade?

>Samurai or heep
>highway driving
Hell no.

>>16776692
4.80 with the same tire size would be far better for towing than 4.10.

>>16776666
Thanks man <3

That thing is an absolute blast to drive and was an incredible value. I spent $2,500 on it, and it only had 123k on it. phenomenal condition and I love taking it out to these short little day trips out and about in az. It's a dog on the street but in 4x4 low range it's a stump puller

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>>16776716
Nice. Hard body so they can take more hits and look better with rock rash than the newer [anything, really].

Old reliables. Picture of close up vehicle?

>>16776692
No. Other way around.

>>16776695
28 inch stock geared at 4.10. Was going to lift it to get some more clearance because of diff hits and got caught on a tree root once. but realised I could go up to 32s without lifting and having minor wheelwell rub. Just forced them in and gonna get lift done in the next month.
See: >>16765875 >>16765102

So I'm at 4.8 right now. Highway doesn't suffer which is my main concern and city driving took like a 2 MPG hit which I've been otay with recently (expected it when changing up tyre size anyway).
I don't mind too much the slightly higher range offroading because clearance was what i was looking for. Plus this thing will never be a rock crawler which is why I was going to get the heep or samurai.

Also, I meant with all the highway driving I do with my Ranger, it wouldn't make sense to go over 32s. Therefore, I should just get a Jeep/Sammy for fun along with my work Ranger. Sorry, I phrased that horribly, lmao.

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>>16761406
ZJ

>>16765440
>not rolling with a retro 80's wheeler

>>16776824
>zj
>not xj
r u even trying

>>16776836
>xj
>1 grand
>finding anything not trashed or 2wd

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I'm back, and my 'limiting straps' didn't break

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>>16776961
does that say "flex"
if so, good job.