Good cheap car chart

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ayyyy

>>16737098
Still have the master excel file if people really wanted to make an effort to update it.

>>16737333
That would be amazing.

>>16737333
HE LIVES

hot hatch should definetly be and Abarth 500
they're quick, nice to look at, handle great and are cheap plus have a huge aftermarket.
mid/full sedans should be Chrysler 200 or 300
smaller SUV/crossover a cherokeee

>>16739331
Git out you newfag.

>>16739331
>under 5 grand
>good

>>16739331
They are FUCKing ugly and if you do like the looks, almost nobody says anything good about the seating position.

Do you guys think $1000 Mustangs are reasonable? I see lots on Craigslist. Do you think the price is reasonable or is it a scam?

civic @ $3k. always

>>16737333
What happened to the lost TFTD?

>>16737333
why no 350z?

>>16739773
>350Z
>under 5k
pick one. The sticky ALWAYS has worked on a 5K budget.

>>16739512
Depends, I see a lot of v6 autos for that price around here, and more often that not "v6, automatic" is posted as a con. The only other Mustangs I see for that price are rollers, totalled or halfway-complete project cars.

So I think if you're looking for a v6 auto that's not bad. Bear in mind it's not overwhelmingly expensive to flip that into a v8 manual if that's your end goal.

>>16739519
Same with Corolla or Camry for $1.5k+

Scion tC's should be on there, you can probably find one with the bolt-on supercharger for under $5k.

>>16739867
>Scion tC's should be on there, you can probably find one with the bolt-on supercharger for under $5k.
Yup. I'd say replace the Prelude with the tC. and replace the CRX with the Scion xA/xB (because good luck finding an unmodified CRX), and replace the Tercel with the Echo.

>>16739260
>>16739284
>>16739717

Still alive. Work just kicked my ass through the holidays. My immediate boss got shit canned, so I did his job plus mine for a solid 2 months. Next Friday/Saturday I have off, I'll drop the TFTD Lost Chapters

>>16739331
>>16739512
>>16739519
>>16739773
>>16739792
>>16739867
>>16739934
As far as people actually wanting to update the sticky, keep in mind the sticky is for cars on a 5K or less USD budget. If you suggest a car, be willing to show that it can be found in somewhat reasonable condition for five thousand dollars or less, why it should be on the chart, as well as pros/cons/problem areas for that car

>>16740231
>If you suggest a car, be willing to show that it can be found in somewhat reasonable condition for five thousand dollars or less, why it should be on the chart, as well as pros/cons/problem areas for that car

Will do.
I suggested replacing the Honda Prelude with the 2005-2010 Scion tC.
>Pros: Camry engine in a Corolla sized car (so it's decently quick), massive aftermarket, toyota reliability
>common problems: poor modifications, bearings on TRD supercharger, oil consumption
>proof of budget:
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5989386839.html
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/6014075079.html

I also suggested replacing the CRX with the 2004-2006 Scion xA and xB
>Pros: spacious, attention grabbing, fuel efficient, reliable
>known issues: Poor modifications, poor maintenance
I can't find much else for known problems beside problems after 150k resulting from poor maintenance.
>proof of Budget
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5979922303.html
https://nwct.craigslist.org/cto/6013598623.html
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/ctd/6004751432.html
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/6018515019.html

And replacing the Tercel with the Echo
Pros: same as Scion xA/xB minus attention grabbing
Cons: The xA and xB were built on the Echo so the same issues carry over. So not many. Toyota reliability tax
>Proof of budget:
https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/cto/6010204075.html
https://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/6016948157.html

>>16739331
Wait at least another year for Abarth 500.
The 200 is shit.

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>>16740231
does the P80 platform really need to be on there twice?
probably could replace the 850 saloon, it's still on the list under wagons anyway
a Mazda 6 or some shit would be a good replacement
>Pros: good aftermarket, good DD, parts are cheap and plentiful
>cons: Trans issues, excessive oil consumption/leakage, blocked purge valves 2003-04 models can be total lemons
10 y/o mazda 6s are definitely less than $5k

>find out about TFTD X-files
I want to believe

>>16739331
The stick is for a $5,000 budget.
WHY is this so hard for morons to fucking understand?
Not a single one of these suggested cars would be cheap enough to make the sticky.

>>16739331
>all these replies
damn got them gud

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>>16737333
It's good to see you lpg

>>16737098
The Dodge Durango should absolutely be somewhere on here. Years from 01-08 should be under $5k in most places.

Can be had cheap with low-ish miles, and its not a bad SUV.

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>>16740338
picture suggestion for the tC.
Another pro is that Scions period come loaded so if a sunroof was available or ABS or A/C were available, they have it. The only options were all aftermarket accessories.

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>>16740338
picture suggestion for the Echo.

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>>16740338
and a suggestion for the Scion xA/xB picture.

Hey lads

New driver here looking into Ford Focuses

Any advice on milage and what to look out for?

good luck OP

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>>16742017
sedans and wagons were available with a SOHC engine. Avoid those. Here's a picture of the engine for identification. The 2.0L Split Port engines are part of the CVH engine family and well known for dropping valves, which of course destroys the engine.

Go for a Zetec or Duratec engined car

>>16740231
how about adding "no older than 3 years" section per class? would it be too much a problem?

>>16739934
This
Scion tC should be in the coupes.
Also maybe Acura rsx somewhere??

>>16742159
>how about adding "no older than 3 years" section per class? would it be too much a problem?
yes it would be a problem. The sticky operates on a 5k budget. You are not going to find ANYTHING in that price range under 3 years old.

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>mfw I was able to find aw11's cheap and decent a few years ago before the sticky with the chart was made
I blame you tube faggots that make videos like "cheap sports cars you can buy today" or something like that and you guys for making some cheap fun cars more expensive on Craigsbitch

>>16737098
Alright suggestions so far:

Prelude replaced by 05-10 Scion tC

CRX replaced by 04-06 Scion xA & xB

Tercel replaced by Echo (no years given)

possibly add older model Mazda6

possibly add Dodge Durango (very skeptical about this one)

>>16742887
>Tercel replaced by Echo (no years given)
2000-2005 which is every year the Echo was made.

>possibly add Dodge Durango (very skeptical about this one)
I'm not the guy who suggested it, but I think it's a good idea. It's basically an SUV based on the Dodge Dakota. So long as it's a first gen 1998-2003 model, I don't see a problem 2004-2008 models were trash though, just like the Dakota of those years.

>>16742887
>>16742978
Also, Though the xA and xB would be replacing the CR-X. I think the Civic hatch should move to the honorable mentions, and the xA/xB given the big spotlight. They're generally easier to find, even if the Civic is more fun to drive.

>>16742887
. I'm here looking for a reliable car and checked craigslist for the durango and they are some nice looking ones for under 5 but for example how many miles are left on a truck like this <https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/6005837979.html> nobody wants to pay 5 thousand for something might die within the year. so someone would need to vouch for how many miles you can get out of one.


If I spend the 5K I'm hoping for 3 years at least.

>>16743194
see here's something people don't think about often.
When looking at a car, don't just look at ones you like. Consider your lifestyle
>What do you need the car to do?
>Any special luggage requirements?
>Fuel economy requirements?
>size/space requirements?

If you're looking for fuel economy, a truck is not the way to go, no matter how cool you think they are.

Here. This should last you forever, provided you keep up with maintenance.
https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/6022058891.html

why bother no one ever fucking reads that shit

>>16743246
>no one ever fucking reads that shit
clearly you didn't. You leased an automatic Scion FR-S

>>16743235
thanks, I'm in hard time financially than i'm accustomed to. I just had a baby, I'm big and fat, and often haul furniture for resale on craigslist. So I'm trying to split the difference like station wagon, van, or suv. but that scion defiantly looks like a good fallback plan. actually i would rather have that than blow a lot on a van that doesn't last. in some strange twist of fate gas is pretty cheap in NJ so its not that big of deal.

i appreciate the suggestion I might go have a look at it.

>>16743295
space is a concern, you may rather take a look at these. They're more spacious but should be just as reliable.
https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/6016261157.html
https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/6011898942.html
https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/5960212163.html

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Can someone recomend some trucks i should look for with a 10k budget? I was really looking at tacomas but it seems like everyone asks stupid prices for what they are and when i ask people i know what other options there are for a good 4x4 medium sized truck that can do some mild offroading sometimes i get different answers from everyone and it makes it difficult when people say oh X is shit you want Y etc etc.

>>16743465
The mid-size truck market is pretty shit. For the money, you're better off with a used full size truck.
Heavily recommend the Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra.
Though if you HAVE to have a mid-size truck, the Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon are every bit as good as the Tacoma, but without the numerous frame problems.

>>16743362
wow, thanks you saved me so much time. I will never be able to repay you. I will leave you with my lifetime inexpensive used car knowledge. Ttops always leak, the old Camry engine was so good I think they made a mistake, Subaru paid to fix my transmission after the warranty just because they care, chevys last longer than expected if you take care of them, cheap fords that look good are a disaster waiting to happen. that is all i know.

>>16743481
Its not so much i have to have a mid size but since i dont tow anything and mainly use the bed every now and then i figured it would be better on gas and space.

>>16743568
>i figured it would be better on gas and space.
the gas mileage difference is negligible. One of the Tacoma's competitors, the Honda Ridgeline, uses a 3.5L V6. This would be fine except the Honda V6 gets the EXACT same gas mileage numbers as a 4x4 Silverado with the 5.3L V8.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=30164&id=30471&id=30451

The fuel economy numbers don't lie. There's no noticeable difference.

>>16737333
upload it dude. I would take a go at it

Whoa, the sticky image is magically back.

What happened?

>>16742017
I picked one up as my first car, and for what it is, its pretty nice. Don't have many KM on it (16000), but no issues yet. Smooth drive, nice and quiet inside. Can't complain for a first car, besides maybe wanting an ST instead.
If you are getting an auto, I've heard the pre-facelift DCTs are prone to issues and have a lot more stuttering than post-facelifts.

DESU I'm not sure what advice you'll get, aside from people going
>Ford

>>16740231
For the full-size sedan section, it would probably be worth changing the Crown Victoria spot to just Ford Panther Platform, as Grand Marquis and Town Cars can be often found cheaper and in better condition than a same year Crown Vic and definitely less beat to shit than a P71. Also, if you're going to keep the model years including pre-2003 cars, DEFINITELY DEFINITELY DEFINITELY add the cracking intake manifold (one of the most well-known problems on the cars) to Common Problem Areas and Issues.

>>16743887
>comparing brand new Focii to old early 2000's models
kill yourself

>>16743946
>guy asks for advice
>inform him of what I have read from other Focii owners
>that's a bad thing
?????

>>16743901
I wouldn't mind consolidating the panther platform to one entry under the sedans.

That would create an opening in the luxury cars segment however, as the town car would become redundant

>>16742017
>what to look out for
RUST
U
S
T

>>16737333
Where my stories at you lying nigger

>>16743970
In that case, maybe leave the Town Car where it is but add in the Marquis to the CV slot? The CV and GM are basically rebadges and share everything from the sheetmetal (from '02 onwards of course) to the shop manual while the Town Car has all sorts of weird little bits and pieces unique to itself anyway.

Either way definitely mention the intake manifold for pre-2003 cars, it's a time bomb waiting to happen if the car hasn't had it replaced yet.

>>16737333
THE LEGEND HAS RETURNED

>>16744078
This

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>>16743965
Name anything about the new Focus models that also applies to the old ones and is actually helpful to him.
Oh wait. Absolutely nothing. Kill yourself. The ST and DCT you mentioned weren't available until 2012 for the DCT and 2013 for the ST.

>>16743970
Maybe replace the Town car with a 2003-2007 Cadillac CTS. They're in budget luxury cars.
Pros: great handling chassis, comfy, and fun
Cons: Timing chain issues, intake gaskets, and brake issues on early cars

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/ctd/6013480003.html
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5994637452.html
https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/5994240990.html

Something that shocked me, for a Cadillac. When looking at CL prices to prove it's in budget, I came across several cars with over 200k and running fine.

>>16743295
>I just had a baby, I'm big and fat
Work off that baby fat now or you'll be fat for life

Are the ~07-09 Corolla or Camrys still good cars?

I have $6000 and can find them near me with 90-120k miles on them in that price range.

My 94 camry has served me well the last 7 years, but im looking for a newish standard looking car that doesnt stand out at all.

I looked into small SUVs, but CR-Vs and Rav4s are prohibitively expensive, while Equinoxes have shit engines and Ford Escapes have shit transmissions.

At this point in my life I just want to fit in with the crowd. What reliable car/suv in my price range would do that?

>>16745862
They're still good. 09+ cars use a different chassis and engine though, but still good

>>16745711
or maybe he just doesn't give a shit.

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Suggestion for another section since it always gets asked on here
>wat drift car should I get for cheap
some cheap options are NA fb/fc rx7's, s13/s14 240sx, bmw 3 & 5 series, then a curve ball to be different could be d21 hardbodies & tacomas since they can be found often in RWD/Manual configurations.
(prices can be found for less, but suggested is for out the box with little problems)
>240sx $2k-$6k
the go to drift shitbox
cheap, but drifttax drives up prices
crazy huge & cheap after market
basicly drifts itself with a welded diff & coilovers
underpowered, but stock KA can take boost easy, engine swaps leave plenty of options and are cheap + well documented.
rust on frame rails is a big issue
abused from last owners with bad mods
preventable oil issues with KA's & SR's running low from unattended leaks then oil starving while going sideways under high G's

>BMW E36 $800-$4k
plenty came with manual
can be found for dirt cheap left over from lower middle class family's that thought it made them look wealthy until the repair bill comes in.
cheap aftermarket
can be an electrical nightmare
stout engines with some cooling issues

>FC RX7 $1.5k-$5k
NA's are cheap but have no power
APEX SEALS
keep up on rotary maintenance and it be very reliable as far as drift cars go.
upgrade the cooling ASAP
light as hell cars
LSD options stock
great chassis if you wanted to put a 'merican V8 in
did I mention extremely underpowered in NA form?

>D21 Hardbody pick up $200-$2k
dirt fucking cheap, (I was offered one for my xbox one & I said no)
would be a practical daily aswel
KA24 similar to the 240sx
only single cam tho so no power
can be modified to throw 240sx suspension in
removing the bed and adding some power can make one extremely tail happy.
rust can be a big issue

>honorable mentions/ cars from other categories
Miata
SN95 Mustang
Foxbody Mustang
3rd & 4th gen Fbody
mk3 supra
select luxary boats like GS300 & LS400 if you want to commit to a trans swap

RX-8 for special snowflake section?

>>16746418
It's already there. Bottom righthand section.

>>16746200
Everyone cares about fuel economy and suspension wear and tear, especially poverty cases.

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>>16746391
If you're going to include the Nissan Hardbody, you can also include the Chevrolet S10, GMC Sonoma, Toyota T100, Ford Ranger, and Mazda B-series.
Might as well just say any small pick up truck.

98-04 Chevy S10s with 5speed and a 2.2l are bulletproof.
They cant haul much, they barely get 25mpg highway, but they are reliable easy to find and can be bought for $1000 sometimes less.

Everyone knows about civics and jacks the prices up. Maybe you could shoehorn it in as a "maybe" candidate for someone looking for dirt cheap

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>>16740231
The answer is always Fox Body Mustang

>>16739792
z's can be found for 5k though
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/6020835294.html

>>16747396
>salvage title
We said decent anon.

>>16747418
>salvage title is not a good car
F A G G O T
A
G
G
O
T

>>16747427
>wanting a car that's been wrecked by Tyrone
C U C K
U
C
K

>>16747459
>now wanting a car that got in a minor fender bender by a grandpa
imagine being this much of a cuck

>>16747499
>minor fender bender by a grandpa
That's what they say. Don't believe Tyrone. That car is fucked. Let me know when you can get a decent car with a clean title in budget. There are a lot of states like mine where they won't let you register a car with a salvage title. You have to bring it in for a DMV inspection to prove the damage was fixed and get it transferred to a rebuilt title.

>>16747396
>>16747427

>decent

>salvage title
>convertible

04-09-2015
IAA

WESTCHESTER IL

Phone No : 7084927000

Damage Type : Junk And Salvage

Disposition : SOLD

Intended For Export : No

04-09-2015
IAA

WESTCHESTER IL

Phone No : 7084927000

Damage Type : Junk And Salvage

Disposition : TO BE DETERMINED

Intended For Export : No

>>16747499
how can someone be this fucking stupid?

>>16746391
>dirt fucking cheap, (I was offered one for my xbox one & I said no)
what the fuck is wrong with you?

I hope LPG knows he is the best poster on 4chan.org

>>16746391
>dirt fucking cheap, (I was offered one for my xbox one & I said no)
wut. I'd have taken that

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>>16747707
KEK. probably a gm fanboy

In my opinion, all cars on the list should be from 2000 and onward. It's 2017 guys, an '00 model is now SEVENTEEN years old. The average mileage on these will be nearly 200,000 miles. It's time to move on from the 20th century.

>>16748874
The problem is not many cars have depreciated enough to make it into the sticky. Cash For Clunkers ruined the used car market so it's taking a lot longer than usual for newer cars to properly depreciate into that $5,000 golden budget. And no. Salvage title cars don't count.

>>16748874
you can't be that picky if your budget is 5k

>>16737098
I vote that instead adding cars to it, right now we just focus on shit we need to remove because you'll never find a decent condition one under 5k unless it's a fucking unicorn of a grandma driving it she don't know what she's got. That and ones that have all been completely riced to shit by 2017.

For instance
>Subaru WRX
>Supra
>MR2
>Corvette
>Turd Gen F-Bodies
>Integra GS-R
>Eagle Talon TSi
>Taco and Ranger (can't find even a single one on my local CL under 10k and I want one so bad)
>RX7
>944

Feel free to correct me as I haven't shopped for sports cars in a while, currently looking for trucks though and holy fucknut is this list outdated.

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I'd like to throw in the 2005 - 2011 Hyundai Accent, especially the hatch. Decently quick with the 5-speed, dirt cheap (5k) to buy and maintain. Good like an old Honda civic without being from the 90's.

>>16749024
>>Subaru WRX
>>Supra
>>Corvette
>>Turd Gen F-Bodies
>>Ranger (can't find even a single one on my local CL under 10k and I want one so bad)
I have no problem with any of these in my area.
proof:
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/6001776489.html
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5993568856.html
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/6012261403.html
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5985743796.html
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/ctd/6022233785.html

It all depends on where you live.

>>16749071
>https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5993568856.html
>a fucking supra for $1800
That EXACT same car would go for at least 6-10k in the condition its in. Holy fuck I'm so jelly. Moving to Jersey as I'm typing.

>>16748874
If there's still plenty of reliable examples out there i don't understand what your problem with the age is. Many of these cars will go for 100k more miles.

>>16749048
and all the aftermarket support of a pineapple.

>>16747567
>Junk And Salvage
sounds about right.

Good Cheap Car Chart EU EDITION
when?

>>16751718
when we have enough yuropoors to chime in and make it. it's been tried before, but not enough people participated to make it worthwhile. Most of /o/ is American, so that sticky is easy.

>>16749107
Then that Supra should be in range for you if you rent a truck and a trailer. Connecticut should only be a 3 hour drive away, depending on New York traffic.

>>16751718
It isn't possible because it depends of the country you're in and the currency you use.

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We should update the poor mans special section

not OC

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Is it possible to buy a decent truck for $1500 cash?

>>16746391
>dirt fucking cheap, (I was offered one for my xbox one & I said no)
dude, it's a free fucking car vs a console

don't be a bitch

>>16751893
depends on where you are, but generally yes.

>>16752091
In central TX. Looking for an old truck as a beater/work truck

>>16752114
post you cl.

>>16752123
Austin

>>16752133
https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6005097035.html
https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6021209457.html
https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6014873738.html
https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6007526802.html
https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6009282014.html
https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/6019816623.html

is there a europoor version of this

>>16752224
Thx mate

>>16752229
see
>>16751738
>>16751855

>>16752224
Hey some of those are manual, is that something I can learn on the fly? I ride motorcycles so I know how to use a clutch and switch gears.

>>16752262
I don't know about from a motorcycle to a car/truck, but it took me about half an hour to learn. Should be similar for you.
Wasn't looking for manual trucks, just trucks in good condition.

>>16752386
No that's cool, I don't mind either since I've been riding "manual" bikes for years. I mean it's the same right? Clutch, shift, unclutch get off throttle while shifting etc

>>16752402
same principle, different movements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gmGoQ1dI2E

>>16752470
Looks easy enough. I'm sure manual vehicles are cheaper too due to supply and demand

bumping for LPG

>>16752047
>>16748744
>>16747934
I have 4 cars with no room for any of them & the hardbody was rotted & needed brake lines.
If I actually wanted it I wouldn't pay more then $200 for it.

>>16737333
LPG is best fuel.

>>16753229

>>16754621
bump for glory.

>>16743529
Define old Camry engine, like 90s?

>>16740231
when you say
>Next Friday/Saturday I have off
you mean tomorrow/the day after tomorrow?
Or the next time you'll have a day off which can be in a couple of yeat?

based LPG, pray for him

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These are pretty cheap now days, but I don't know about the American market

Pros
>fun
>relatively reliable
>practical for a sports car

Cons
>slow
>expensive to make faster
>Neglect can make ownership a pain

Would anyone want a cheap motorcycle chart? Say, $3,000 or less?

>>16746391
how is the e36 mechanically though ?

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>>16757428

i daily one of these

It's been the cheapest, most reliable german car i've ever owned. And i've owned multiple BMW's and Audis.

at 252hp i think it's pretty quick. Deffinately one of the quicker roadsters one can get excluding BMW's M roadsters. (Z4 M's are more expensive, Z3 M is slower except for EU spec S50b32)

>>16759427
Personally i believe bmw M52/M54 engines are extremely solid, their only issue is the waterpumps that give away at 85k.

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>>16759427
I haven't owned one myself, but I have a few friends who have owned them & my girlfriends current daily is a 5Speed 528i E39.
So far girlfriends car has only needed tie rods & the throttle body sensor. Some random electrical gremlins here & there. One sketchy one being the traction control turning itself back on mid burnout & fucking something up so it doesn't have TCS anymore.

As for friends E36's, one blew 2nd gear trying to clutch kick. The other hasn't given him any problems yet in the past 20k miles & this red vert is a glorious shitbox.
I first ran into him when me & my boss where sliding the Genisis & 240 on a rainy day. He came out of nowhere, flew into the corner too close to the apex, panicked & lifted when he oversteered, snapped the rear end the other way. Smacked the curb & flopped it into the median.
He drove away & we found him at walmart with 2 flats getting new tires.
Later ran into him again & talked a bit. Wasn't as much as a fuccboi as i thought he would be, was just eager to drift. Brought his car to the shop to check the damage..
Unibody & pinch welds too rotted to lift from
Front end was loose in everyway (which seems common)
All bushings shot
Curbed side LCA bent
And half the electrical components including the vert top didn't work.
But as fucked as it was, it could still move on its own & slide, so I guess theres that

>>16756060
I've had a 94 and 97. i put 100000 miles on the 94 with no oil changes. made it to 270000miles before I had to scrap it for a transmission sensor. it wouldn't pass in my state. and i couldn't get to the sensor.

I'd switch the Tacoma and ranger around, the Tacoma has too much Toyota tax.

>>16761219
Without an oil change? Sounds like bs, that car would've coked by then

>>16739867
I am planning to get a v6 manual Mustang on Craigslist. So you think is most likely a scam? Still, just need a good looking car that can drive temporarily for graduate school.

There should be a cheap to own and operate section. May include a few from other sections though... would probably include things like, prius, civic, Other little cars that are highly reliable and get good milage.

Ford Fiesta may be here (though I know little of it's reliability) Toyota Echo and Yaris would fit.

>>16761915
If he never did short journeys it's entirely possible

>>16747529
Go to copart.com and see for yourself what "salvage" can mean. It could literally be a dented fender. It all depends on how the insurance company quotes it.

When is new sticky?

>>16763284
when LPG posts it. We've made the suggestions, now he needs to do the edits.

>>16762385
>Ford Fiesta may be here (though I know little of it's reliability)
not cheap enough. America didn't get the Fiesta until 2011, so they haven't depreciated enough to get into the $5k budget

What do you guys think of early model Mazda 3s and 6s? They can be had for super cheap and the design+interior is great

>>16763581
Fuck off

>>16763857
Thanks for the reply

what do you guys think of the 2002 monte carlo ss

>>16765380
reliable, decent handling, shit interior, shit transmission. And I don't mean a shit transmission because it was automatic only. I mean they were known for breaking often shit. Not as bad as a Nissan CVT, but noticeable enough. The transmission failures are FAR more pronounced on supercharged cars though.

>>16761915
for awhile I added lots of oil. then slowly over time it required less oil. i just added oil when it was low. stupidly short trips or very long trips only.

>>16766949

>>16767987

>>16769366

>>16769375

Mid 2000s Buicks need to be on the full size list. You can find plenty of low mile Buicks of any model for under 5k thanks to them being the official car of the elderly.

>>16762228
V6 mustang are shit just get a clean civic and get a proper mustang when you get enough money.

come on LPG. Update.

>>16770615

What can I get for $6k if I want to compete with a 350z?

If that's not an option.

What can I get for $6k that has power and 20 mpg city and not a piece of shit that breaks down once a month.

>>16772694
C4 Corvette or an F-body Camaro/Firebird

>>16770615
LPG you fucking faggot. Don't tease us.

Thoughts on buying a former rental vehicle?
Beat to hell, but have full documented repair history.

>>16775244
I bought a taurus like that a long time ago. It probably had the typical life of a taurus.

I wonder about going to those auctions where the dealers sell all their trade ins.

>>16749048
I know this get's thrown around a lot but those things are legit sleepers, they have the same 2.4 engine from the bigger sedans in a smaller lighter hatch with a manual.

>>16749782
>caring about aftermarket on a $5k or less shitbox
All you should care about is easy-to-find and cheap replacement parts.

>>16737333
I read the whole "tales from the dealership" pdf. good shit

>>16737098
Could we get a separation between mini-trucks and full sizes. I feel like lumping a f350 and a ranger in the same category really doesent do justice for either

>>16773436

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Seriously am having trouble deciding between these things.

I have a truck and family with larger trucks so hauling stuff will never be an issue.

I'm looking for
>good gas mileage
>4 cylinder - v6 with good power feeling
>comfortable ride
>2006 or newer (I've driven a 93 dakota my entire driving life)
>Under $12k used

I'd like something that looks sporty and has a little power but honestly speaking i'm never going to push it past 80 mph unless in an emergency situation.

This would be a daily driver car but I do not drive more than 10 miles an average day with weekends being more.

>>16778315
what do you consider good gas mileage?

>>16778341
Anything above 20 city would be way more than I get now.

>>16778341
wew

>>16759467
I also daily a Boxster, little to complain about

>>16778348
>>16778315
I'd recommend the 2008+ Cadillac CTS. The 300+ HP V6 is glorious, they're within budget, they're comfy, and sporty at the same time.
and EPA estimates aren't too shabby. 18 mpg city, 27 highway.
http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=26395&id=29587

Best automatic under $8k

Southeast region no salted roads.

Yes I know I should know manual but for now I'll stick with automatic.

I want comfy reliable ride with decent power and good mpg

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>>16779234
all except the good mpg. it's decent though.

>>16779268

Crown Vic? I'd go Impala if I wanted to look like a cop

Yo who got suggestions for the small SUV/ crossover tiers or is it good as is?

>>16745611
>replace the Town car with a 2003-2007 Cadillac CTS
This.

>>16748874
Cars have been slowly getting more reliable since the 60s. The average age of all cars on the road in 2009 was 14 years, and because it makes sense that the least expensive used cars would be older than average, it'd be almost impossible to find enough cars from 2000+ to fill the list well.

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Hey boys, is a 2000 Mercedes C230K (W202) reliable?
How much is it worth with 95k miles? I want to get better at fixing cars, is it easy to DIY repair?

>>16780438
>is it easy to DIY repair?
>Gernan
>easy or cheap to repair
pick one. Get something else, Personally, I recommend any GM car with the 3100 or 3400 V6s;

>>16779234
Bump

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>>16780644
>german
>easy AND cheap to repair
FUCKING DEBUNKED GTFO

>>16780940

Silly american. The pre-2005 german cars are made out granite and are cheap to maintain and repair.

>>16780438

it's an old pig with loads of reliability. Good to go for the W202. The W203 may be a nightmare, but the W202 is one of the final hur-rah of the old Mercedes.

>>16780968
I don't even think Americans had the Audi 80. But nice try.

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>>16780992

Silly anon. The B4 AND the B3 were available in the US. Now go back to /r9k/ newfriend.

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>>16780999
>be wrong about 1 thing
>suddenly newfag and /r9k/
Another miss. Keep trying, one day you'll get it.

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>>16781009

>>16780933
This

>>16751747
I'm in Florida though

>>16781880
You said you were moving to Jersey though

And Florida's not that bad. I once made a trip from Connecticut to Florida in 21 hours.

>>16781967
>driving 21 hours to buy a car
>not understanding the "I'm moving there tomorrow" ancient normie meme
I was being fecicous. Not actually moving anywhere. Also I have no time to drive anywhere further than an hour away.

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Finding these '01-03 with low 100k's mileage all over the place for dirt cheap. They're on the chart but having a tough time believing that they're not shit.

>>16782036
>driving 21 hours to buy a car
wasn't to buy a car. Went on vacation.

>>16741972
>those wheels

omg so cute

>>16737098
Has anyone suggested remove the WRX? I don't think finding one in worth while condition under $5k is very reasonable any more.

Maybe replace it with a SRT4?

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What do you guys think about 3-door focus 2007/2008 purely based on looks?

I can't make up my mind, but I'm talking with a guy who might go way down on price. Low milage too

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>>16783032
Can't add it. The sticky is for Amerifags since most /o/ users are American. The hatchbacks you Europeans got from 2005/2006 to 2011 were not sold in America.
2005-2007 hatchbacks were the same as 2000-2004 hatchbacks but with a Duratec engine and a facelift.
2008-2011 US market Focus's were based on the gen one cars and only available as a 2 door coupe or 4 door sedan. Pic related, a 2008 Focus Coupe
All 2005-2011 US-Market Focii used a 2.0L Duratec as the standard engine, with a 2.3L available on sportier ST models from 2005-2007. There were no US market turbos until the MK3 ST.
The 2008-2011 Focus Coupe and sedan were unique to the USA and Canada. Oddly enough, the coupe is actually the lightest of all "Gen 1" based Focii

>>16742017
Try to find a ZTS model. My wife's ZTS is coming near 300k and has minor rust (new jersey). The thing is actually OK to drive when my car needs something replaced. Fastest mom car I've ever driven...

>>16782472
There seems to be a communication issue here. I meant it was implausible for me to drive 21 hours to buy a car.

>>16737098
Please annotate part difficulty for the SVT Focus. Ford no longer produces many of the parts for it.

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>>16785539
honestly, it'd just be better to replace it with the PT Cruiser GT Turbo at this point. same 2.4l Turbo as the SRT4, but parts are still available. Still technically a hot hatch, still fairly reliable, and easy to find non-fucked

>>16786031
But has a way worse body platform and shittier suspension setup.

>>16783155
anybody else have a 2008-11? I have a 2008 coupe. Been reliable, just all kinds of interior plastic shit breaks.

>>16786081
The P platform itself is great The problem is they used a twist beam rear axle as opposed to the Neon's IRS in order to get the PT Cruiser classified as a light truck to help with CAFE standards (which requires a completely flat flooro in the back as well as a certain ride height to be classified as a truck). And that has led to the CUV craze today using the same loophole

>>16786031
>PT cruiser
>3,123 lb
>215-230hp with turbo
>180hp without
>150hp standard

>SVT Focus
>2750lbs
>170hp no turbo

If anything you are better off getting the ZX3 over either of those.

>>16786031

That's a sexy PT Cruiser.

>>16741979

Amazing, the Scion xB's doors are almost perfect squares.

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>>16786789
any car can be sexy if you know what to do.

>>16786831
That's gay af. You cant take tinfoil cars seriously no matter how much le mead max accessories they put on.

>>16786853
it was a concept done to promote "The Walking Dead" which is sponsored by Hyundai.

>>16786868
double gay

>>16748874
Depends on the market segment. Economy cars and SUVs tend to reach the magic price point fairly quickly, while luxury cars need to depreciate for quite a bit longer to get down that low. You can find a lot of cars newer than 2005 for less than $5k, but you´re not going to find a lot of mid-range sports cars newer than 2005 for less than $5k.

First gen Jeep Libertys are hitting the sub5k price point. Could be a candidate for crossover. The 3.7l would be pretty beasty compared to what constitutes a crossover these days. Easy to maintain, decent after market, decent suspension and 4 wd shenanigans.

Cons: eats gas, engine eats oil kinda hard in old age. Electricals are wonky, lots of lights burning out at the same time.

Somebody convince me not to get a 2005 Titan V8 as a towing and farm vehicle workhorse. 115k miles and King Cab for $11500, which is under budget (13).

I know nothing about import trucks /o/, halp. I promise I'll stop shitposting so much.

Bump
Lpg at least give us the file

>>16737333
Can someone tell me who the fuck this guy is?

Would a frontier be a good alternative for a tacoma? Ive heard some sketchy things about them so im kind of wary.

>>16788680
What are you some sorta freshhomo?

>>16788760
Only been browsing /o/ for a few months so yes.

>>16788949
LPG is an oldfag here, famous for his "Tales From The Dealership" from when he worked at a Mercedes dealership as a salesman. He got a different job a few months back. He also helped make the original sticky and the current one redone in 2014 to replace the original

This would mark the second time the sticky has been redone.

>>16789053
Oh, I think I've read a few of his screencaps then

I've forgotten what productive discussion looks like until this thread.

´For the purposes of the sticky, it´s actually really hard in most of the US to find Jeep Wranglers for less than $5k with no major issues. There are a few, but they´re usually beat to shit or from the 80´s. I cant really suggest another off-road option that isnt covered by the trucks and SUVs already listed, just saying.

Monteros are great beaters, but there´s no aftermarket support and I don´t think Ive ever seen one outfitted for rock crawling.

>>16789645
My dad had a Montero sport, good beefy car. Mpgs weren't hot though
Isuzu rodeos might be worth looking?

What cheap car would you guys recommend for a 2darks4you guy like me?

>>16790196

>official dindu cars

nissan altima
nissan maxima
dodge charger
chevy camaro
chrysler 300
chrysler 200
cadillac escalade
lincoln navigator

>>16790280
>>16790196
And if you do get one of these sedans, they must always be painted white, with tinted windows and sporadic body damage

>>16790280
I mean dark as in gothy.

>>16740231
I'll be around next Friday and Saturday to assist with ideas if you will actually be working on it.

>>16788736
my old man had a 84 nissan pickup and put 300k on the thing now the newer ones ive heard that they have electrical issues but thats just a nissan thing if you are looking for other mini-trucks you could try s10/colorado depending on your price range also ive heard good things about the rangers/ b series

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>>16790410
Cadillac Fleetwood Hearse

Also acceptable is a second gen Pontiac Firebird (reference to the movie Gypsy 83)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8zYDqGdXA

>>16790677
Aren't firebirds super expensive? At least the good ones. And the other would be too try hard for me. I'm not a gringy goth kind. I love the music and I dress black, but mostly formal, casual/formal. I want something I would feel comfortable and confident picking up girls with.

>>16790864
I imagine any black firebird would suffice. That movie came out around 2001 when the second gens were dirt cheap and worth virtually nothing.
Turd gen would probably be the go-to these days. Besides, isn't the phoenix on the hood of Firebirds something related to Gothic culture? A bird of fire that raises from the dead?

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>a good /o/ thread
bump

hey, is the third generation Camaro still a viable option for as fast as you can go under 5k?

>>16791478
totally. There's an IROC Z on my local craigslist, complete with 5 speed manual, for $1500.

>>16791502
about how reliable are they for a daily driver?
assuming the car doesn't already have some sort of serious issue making it unreliable already.

>>16792433
pretty damned reliable. 1986+ V8s had the block and crankshaft redesigned to accept a 1 piece rear main seal with solved the small block Chevy's only real problem (rear main seal leaks. 1955-1985 SBC's used a 2 piece rear main seal).
The 305 5.0L V8 is completely pointless to even try to modify, since the maximum power the thing can make while still being streetable and without fucking with the displacement is around 300 HP. The irony here is that only the V6 and 305 V8 cars got a 5 speed manual transmission. All the 350 5.7L V8 cars were automatics. Ideally, you'd find a 305 equipped 5 speed car and swap the 350 in. The 350 bolts right in to the 305 car, and right up to the 5 speed manual there. I've actually seen many cars on craigslist that have already had that done and it does make them more sellable.
The V6 models are often looked over, but if you know what cars to pull parts off of in the junkyard, you can build a very decent motor from the 2.8L (1982-1989), 3.1L (1990-1992) or 3.4L V6's (1993-early 1995).
1995.5 to 2002 V6 models used the Buick 3.8L 3800 series V6 which is unrelated to the 2.8/3.1/3.4 V6's from before, so nothing interchanges there. Be careful looking at 1995 V6's. I've seen some with the 3.4, and some with the 3.8. It Depends on when in the year it was built. But this is also getting deep into the 4th gen cars that started in 1993.

Will an E46 really put me under financially? And is it reliable enough to DD a 12-20 y/o car? I think it's one of the best looking mass produced cars, but I'm leaning IS300 or TL so I can go to work every day.

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we should add the Suzuki Vitara/Chevy tracker to this list. 2000 and newer can be had for less then 3K TOPS and they are reliable, cheap, practical and fit in both the small SUV catagory and the off-roaders as an honourable mention. however they suffer from poor MPG for a 4cylinder, being slow as tits and prone to rusting out fast.

bump of life