ultimate 4x4

>>16713297
memes aside the G-wagon is 100x the vehicle an old FJ will ever be.

>inb4 it's a restomod so it runs/drive like my 3k civic
no it doesn't.

>>16713297
Both.

G-wagon. The FJ44 looks as bad as the 4-door Wrangler.

>>16713336

Here's the ICON guy shitting all over the G-wagon 4x4^2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb5WFXoxB0Q

> Portal axels are so heavy, very little upward room
> With all the computers, it only makes sense in for a 5 year lease

>>16713297
why 4x4 when you can 6x6?
why stick to land when you can also water?

ALVIS STALWART

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mr_pCrhTkk

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>>16713427

Sadly the G-wagon 6x6 is out of production

>>16713297
Get the Maybach G-Wagon.

>>16713297
Old FJ's were real fucking offroader at the time before they were turned into a gay mom wagon, G-wagon was too, and still kinda is but now it's just a dressed up mommy wagon for rich mother that want to show off their hubby's money.

>>16713449
>>16713297

There's a reason why /ORG/ ignored your question on the Maybach "offroader". Thank you for making a separate containment thread for this, OP.

>>16713450

As a luxury "off roader", the G wagon always seemed like a more expensive less drivable less functional range rover.

But reviews say the drive on the 4x4^2 is smooth...

>>16713297
Bentley Bentayaga.

>>16713297
Get the Toyota

>>16713336
First all, going to need a citation on your claim.
Second of all, there is literally nothing Toyota Landcruiser on the Icon FJ44. Absolutely nothing.

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>>16713450
Ah, about that, the J40's current successor is just as, if not more capable that it ever has been.

>>16714580
They might as well just come out and say these are strictly made for the Russian and Armenian mafias

>>16713474
The only reason USA went with the Hummer was because the Gwag was too expensive. It'll always be the most capable off road production vehicle

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One of those arab patrols with >1000whp

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No yuppy shit.
Pinzgauer

>>16715169
That's completely wrong though. The HMMWV was designed to complement the Bradley and Abrams.
Also the Marines have G wagons
Also the US military concerned about "cost".

>>16715018
The Icon FJ is a glorified golf cart for rich old people at the beach.

>>16713297
Just buy a 90s box Jeep Grand Cherokee and put in $35k and it will rape either of those.

You have the extended wheelbase you're looking for, seats four comfortable with luggage space. Very reliable engines and power train (especially manual). Get an adequate lift, transmission cooler, some proper tires, and an aftermarket locking differential and you'll be set. If you need real power you can supercharge the V8 and have plenty of power and torque.

Or just get the 98 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with the 5.9L V8 and the heavy duty automatic tranny. Makes 245hp stock and you figure with a supercharger making 8psi you'd be around 360hp+ and 450+lbft. Which is all you need for offroading when your vehicle weighs around 3200lbs.

Seriously though, the 212 and 318 are unkillable.

>>16716367
>unibody jeep
no

>>16716377
Just don't ram it into a tree or roll down a cliff and expect it to be easy to fix.

>>16716392
It would still be cheaper to fix than a G-wagon or FJ44 that did the same thing lol

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only dumb westerner with more money than sense spends hundreds of thousands of american dollars on car for going off the road.

sensible proletarian man buy lada niva for price of one month labour in kholhoz. can do same thing as fancy land cruiser built for california beach party girls or mercedes g-wagon built for arabic housewives.

I doubt you can afford even a base model G-Class.

>>16715025
I could really go for a 3 door offroader just about now. We have Jeep, but i'm tired of buying Jeeps. We have no open variety and importing is a big no-no here.

>>16716440

i doubt he can afford a used 460

>>16716438
Is that IFS with the lower control arms BELOW HALF WAY DOWN THE TIRES?

What is the point? You get neither the off-road ruggedness and travel of solid axle nor the clearance of IFS.

>>16714580
>wheelbase bigger than the boats in the background

>>16715025
shit that's kawaii as FUCK

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>>16716438
>tfw the only person selling new Nivas in the UK has gone out of business
feels bad
it means if I ever want to own a new one I'll have to learn Russian

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>>16715944
That's not a citation.
>>16716577
Good news is SWB Bunderas and J74 Landcruisers are old enough to import!
>>16716885
Where the fuck would you think the lower control arms are going to be mounted? Considering the axles ARE half way down, there's always a control arm below it. Irrelevant anyway, as there's no diff pumpkin to content with, and the penalty of clearance is greatly reduced the closer to the wheels you get.

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>>16716885
>lower control arms BELOW HALF WAY DOWN THE TIRES?

Like this?

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>>16717952
Instead of this?

>>16717657
i'm so happy now.

>>16717959
>>16717952
>portal axles
There's your answer strawman dipshit. Literally nothing to do with an arbitrary control arm layout.

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>>16716577
SAVE US FORD

>>16718436
Careful, you'll get a bunch of asshurt domestitards whinging that it's built on an SUV they're not used to.

>>16716906
>>16716438

nivas are extremely shit cars. Its like the proto-crossover. Underpowered, underperforming and unreliable.
Niva was built for "the people" in mind so that it could have maximum interchangeable parts with other lada sedans in production.

>>16715190
<3

>not getting a defender

>>16718436
Ford's not gonna save shit.

>>16713413

>Very little upward room

That has to do with the design of the vehicle and not the portals.

The portals don't take away from upward articulation, how could they?

>>16723104

I wish Land Rover was still making the defender for the US. Who is the best refurbisher? East coast defenders? Arkonik?

>>16723181

Couldn't say, I got mine from the military

>>16723104
Why would you choose a Defender over a G or a Landcruiser?

>>16718436
Wonder what class the new Bronco would be. A three door CUV, midsize, fullsize like a truck, or in-between midsize and fullsize like people rumored it to be... Anticipation is really killing me here.

>>16724227
Well seeing as though it's based on the global Ranger/Everest platform, logic would say it's going to be a midsize SUV in a similar vein to the FJ Cruiser. Body specifics like door count are a guess though, but I'd wager a "freestyle" type side entry.

>>16715190
In fact, any patrol for that matter.

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Bump for Ronny Dahl

>>16713297
why wouldnt anyone want either one?

>>16715302
Fuck that.

The only good ones were the ones manufactured by USSR for export, to try to save their face. Still, they were sold with the slogan "new for the price of old" and were shitty.

Today, they're junk.

>>16713297
>should I get
THE COCK REMOVED FROM YOUR MOUTH?
YES.

>>16715025
over-priced af though,

>>16730785
Nope. They're valued accordingly.

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>>16715302
>>16716438
>>16716906

If you're posting Russian offroaders, then at least post ones that's not total crap.

Niva is only good as a cheap base for mudding mods etc.