My car is more fun to drive because it's manual and handles gre-

>>16623648
B-BUT MUH FUN
M-MANUAL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE FUN!!!

Hey guys it's my first week learning manual and I think it's a jo-

>>16623648
>implying that sitting in traffic with your foot on the brake is more fun than rocking back and forth in first
>being so incompetent as a human being you can't control your body to manage 3 pedals
Stay in your slush box and keep crying

>>16623648
There is literally nothing wrong with manual in traffic. It's not hard or tiring at all, and even if it was, I'd rather have fun when the road is clear and mildly annoyed in traffic than be bored all the time.

It really isn't that much worse than an automatic. Traffic sucks in ever vehicle.

>>16623662
>shills on damage control

>>16623677
>autotragic owners in denial
For all I care you can keep driving automatic "cars"

>>16623653
Job? You got that straight

t. Used to own manual then i turned 24 and got real

>>16623648
>not changing your own gears
What are you, a cuck?

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>>16623683
>driving automatic cars
>in the year 2030, operating manual transmission vehicles will be outlawed in order to satisfy current safety protocol measures affiliated with autonomous driving cars
>in the year 2060, operating vehicles with an automatic transmission is strictly prohibited

>>16623695
>following the law
What are you? Gay?
>honestly scared tho

>>16623648
What's next, you gonna start shilling mass transport because it's faster than being stuck in traffic?

>>16623683
>its trackday
>cant wait to show everyone how good i am
>ill take this corner like a god
>just let me shift a few thousand times
>w-why is everyone passing me
>b-but manual!!!

>>16623648
>>16623651
>>16623653
There's literally nothing hard about sitting in traffic with a manual. Slip that shit in neutral and whip the brake on.

>>16623662
This guy get it. First time getting stuck in traffic in a manual was after a 12 hour shift painting houses in 101o weather and it was actually EASIER to sit in traffic with the manual.

>>16623706
>>following the law
>What are you? Gay?

Disobeying the law can land you in a cell with Bubba. Pretty sure that's even more gay.

>>16623732
Not if you fuck Bubba first

>>16623738
Kek

>>16623738
I'd rather not contract AIDS

>>16623730
>>just let me shift a few thousand times
Surely you went 3 times, right? 1st to 3rd to top gear? MAYBE down shift the corner?

>not driving to the commuter train station
>not zipping home avoiding all traffic after work

Plebian.

>>16623731
doesnt change the fact that its unnecessary
>>16623749
>still slower than pdks, autos and tiptronic
KEK

>>16623751
>paying to sit on a public train you aren't in control of with smelly casuals

C U C K
U
C
K

Sure feels nice to live somewhere I can commute on country roads, and not in a degenerate liberal concrete shithole

>>16623811
>liberal concrete shithole

Literally nothing wrong with being liberal. This site was mainly libertarian in the late Bush years, eventually the pendulum will swing back.

>>16623811
>degenerate liberal concrete shithole
jokes on you, I live on a third world island with an overpopulation problem

>>16623695
>in the year 2525
>if man is still alive
>if women can survive
>they will fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind

that manual shitboxes still rule the planet.

>>16623822
/pol/tards and retard teenagers in general just hate liberals because goobergate told them to. They think anybody who doesn't agree with ther politics is a SJW

>>16623822
>libertarian
it's a difference between redpilled libertarians and 420 weed bro liberals,like half of /pol/ is libertarian

>>16623822
>Literally nothing wrong with being liberal

>>16623835
There really isn't, when it comes to most of the world outside of North America.
Liberalism = personal freedoms and economic freedom.

>>16623648
Dual clutch Audi ftw. I drove a manual Honda for 11 years and rarely find myself missing it.

>be me
>be 1886
>Chilling in my De Dion steam car
>Some kraut comes up to me with his autistic wagon
>Says it's powered by the stuff you put in lanterns or some shit
>Says it's the future
>Calls himself an enthusiast
>Tell him to fuck off
>How can you call yourself an enthusiast and connect with your motored carriage when you don't even shovel coal in it ?
>Fire up my boiler
>Drive home and write about it to my correspondants

>>16623844
>>16623834

SJW's have hijacked liberalism in general. Time for a 3rd party.

>>16623834
>They think anybody who doesn't agree with ther politics is a SJW
And libs think anyone who disagrees with them is a racist, misogynist, homophobe

>>16623853
I won't let some retarded socialists with an identity crisis make me stop using a word that has existed for centuries to refer to myself.

>>16623844
>economic freedom
Government-controlled economy is free?

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>tfw sitting in traffic driving a manual after going to the gym on leg day

suffering

>>16623853
>Time for a 3rd party
Agreed. Though I couldn't bring myself to vote for Gary Johnson. What a dope.

>>16623861
Define government-controlled.

>>16623754
Automatics are unnecessary, actually. There was literally zero need for them to even be considered, let alone created and put in every car.

>Still slower
K, you're obviously retarded.

>>16623648
It's not hard unless you've got a ridiculously heavy aftermarket clutch.

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>>16623648
>commuting
>fun

can't wait for driverless cars

>>16623754
It may be unnecessary but it's still easy as fuck to do and shouldn't be a problem.

>all these Burgers whining about manual transmission

I guess you can't blame them tho, since they were never actually taught to drive...

>>16623893
>I guess you can't blame them tho, since they were never actually taught to drive...

What are you on about m8? I had to read a ~100pg book and do around 20 hours of driving around with my parents to satisfy "Driver's Education" requirements before I went and took my 20 question multiple choice test to get my unrestricted driver's license.

>>16623893
My mom, dad, sister, and myself all know how to operate manual transmission. Turns out we're all currently driving automatics. That kind of shits on your little theory.

>>16623893
That's because nobody here wants to use archaic technology. Manual may be more "fun" but that is a completely subjective perspective and offers no objective advantage over any auto with shifttronic these days.

>>16623909
My family is the same. I'm the only one that drives a manual.

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>>16623648
sucks to be you anon. Don't forget, you ARE the traffic! Meanwhile:
>more manual
>more fun to drive
>never stuck in traffic
etc

>>16623878
It's not about necessity. It's about convenience.

I bet you scoff at people on elevators as you proudly march up the stairs.

>>16623921
>Sharing the elevator with filthy mouth breathers

>>16623921
>It's not about necessity.
Then don't bring up necessity. I'm sorry your argument failed.

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>>16623648

I've been driving for 10 years now, everything is b-roads and I'm yet to sit in traffic.
Stop living in shit areas.

>>16623938
Some people want to do jobs that are only available in the cities.
Also, if everyone stopped living in shit areas, the good areas would become shit.

>>16623935
>Then don't bring up necessity.
I didn't. This is my first response to you.

>I'm sorry your argument failed.
Not me.

>>16623938
>Stop living in shit areas
You mean high income areas with a good job market?

>>16623930
>being this autistic/antisocial

>>16623977
Then why are you responding to me, because the post I responded to was about manual transmissions being unnecessary.

>>16623938

>Some people want to do jobs that are only available in the cities.

Well you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want to work in a central hub, you'll have to accept living with traffic jams.
Luckily I was fortunate enough to live close to a small-medium city, but which is an haven for new tech companies (for a rough idea, fixed population of around 30k, that triples from 9 to 6), so I have a decent enough job with commodities not far from me, but without the hustle and hustle of a large hub.

>>16624008
I'm not allowed to contribute my opinion to the conversation?

>>16624011

And I meant to quote >>16623949

>>16624017
Not when it's invalid because the topic at hand was necessity.

>>16624011
>Luckily I was fortunate enough to live close to a small-medium city
So you admit you lucked out, but criticize others for preferring an automatic in more congested areas?

>>16624002
I'd rather just walk the stairs and get whatever little cardio activity I can accumulate throughout the day. If I'm really tired I'll take the elevator, but sometimes it's more inconvenient because people hold the door open for some sheboon slowly waddling her fat ass up to the door, and have to stop at every level before I get to the main floor.

>>16624039
if you worked out properly you wouldnt need to take stairs for exercise

>>16624038

No, I'm criticizing op projecting his own experience as the norm

>>16624034
What? All I did was explain why someone would want an auto transmission (convenience)

Why do you keep rambling on and on about how it's not necessary?

>>16624044
Why can't you do both?

Burgers are so fucking lazy I swear

>>16624046
But you said you were lucky, which seems to imply that your experience is not the norm.

>>16624054
Im not american as stated in >>16623827
should I start tripfagging maybe?

>>16624044
Kinda like how you don't need to drive a manual

>>16624049
Because the topic at hand was necessity. Why are so many people here incapable of reading what's being responded to before spouting diarrhea from their mouth and flat out refusing to accept when they made a fool of themselves?

>>16624059
exactly my point, manual shills need to stay BTFO

>>16624057

Did I say mine is?

>>16624065
I did read it. He said manuals are unnecessary. You said autos are unnecessary. Then I informed you that the choice to drive an automatic is about convenience rather than necessity. What am I missing here?

>>16624080
So if neither your experience or OP's is the norm, than what is?

>>16624082
The fact that the topic it hand was necessity. You want to discuss convenience? It's really pretty inconvenient when automatics decide something isn't right and that 2nd gear is the only gear. It's really inconvenient when you need to pass, but there's a 3 second delay before it down shifts, allowing you to accelerate. It's pretty inconvenient when your battery dies and you don't have anyone to jump you or a battery charger, rendering your vehicle unable to be started. It's pretty inconvenient when you have to pay $2000 for a rebuilt transmission instead of $50 for a new clutch.

>>16624084
None. As far as I can tell, no one is going "everyone needs to live in a large city/outside of it", unlike op saying each and everyone of us sits on traffic jams.

>>16624102
>unlike op saying each and everyone of us sits on traffic jams.

You probably sit on cocks, faggot.

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>>16624094
>The fact that the topic it hand was necessity.
So because you two were arguing about necessity, that bars anyone from bringing anything else up? Check your autism.

Listing every worst-case-scenario for auto transmissions is kind of desperate, no?

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>>16624113

Hi op, how are you enjoying being mad?

>>16624113
>being THIS buttblasted

>>16624102
>no one is going "everyone needs to live in a large city/outside of it"
In most cases, that's where the most lucrative jobs are found. A large portion of our population has this experience. You might even say it's the norm ;-)

>>16623757

>he takes the subway with the poor people

Like I said, plebian

>being a city cuck and mentally challenged american
I con only imagine how hard life can be

>>16624188
I bet you're self-employed, making six figures working from home.

>being a cuck to work for Mr. Noseberg

Autotragics everyone

>>16623907
And you'd be literally the only one in the history of your country not that anyone believes you anyway

It's hilarious seeing poorfags talk about how much better a manual is. My new car is 3x as fast as my old manual shitbox and I don't even have to bang through gears with my foot on the floor to get on the freeway. If I actually want to keep the revs up and shift fast I can just use my paddle shifters. It's ok, in 10 years you can finance my used goods and talk about how DCT's are sooooo much superior to whatever I'm using by then.

desu i work an hour from home and drive traffic everyday in my auto gti. im hopefully gonna be doubling my salary soon so im just gonna buy a week end car. why limit yourself to one good thing

>>16624235

>wanting to commute 1+ hours in stop and go then pay 20$ for parking near your office building

No thanks.

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>>16624235

>>16624250
>office building
>paying for parking
sounds disgusting
>>16624254
>not 5-speed with overdrive
disgusting

I don't see the problem with traffic in a manual.
I just put it in 2th and use the clutch.

I would have a manual trans if i didnt have a bad hip. back in 7th grade i had to get a screw in my hip. I test drove a manual because i was thinking of buying one but after about 20 minutes my leg started to cramp up.

>>16623648
>Living in a shit hole country.

>>16624235
(You)

>>16624284
Or you could just repeatedly let your foot off the brake and zone out for two hours while you think about how you're going to convince your thankless wife to blow you once you get home.

>>16624589
>automatic
>not husband

>>16624589
Luckily I drive manual and don't get that shit. I just have a wonderful and great girl waiting for me.

>>16623822
Most liberals are for big government. Libertarians are inherently supposed to hate big government.

>>16623648
>not having an auto for commuting and a manual for fun

It's like you people are poor or something

>>16623651
>not having property somewhere outside the shittt city

>>16623730
Not everyone drives a 1.3 diesel like yourself, nigel.

If you have to sit in traffic for more than 40 min just consider using public transport. You're part of the problem.
Happily my commute is only 10-15 min and 7 km.

>>16623648
good thing weekends exist so people can enjoy their cars.

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>>16623648
My car is fun to drive in traf-

Tbh having card as a hobby while living in a big flat city is a total meme. After I moved out of the mountains I havnt had fun with my car in a year or more. Not even sure why I still shitpost here.

>>16623921
You sound fat

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>>16623648
>living in a place with traffic

NAH SON

>>16623648
Joke's on you, I take the bus to work

>>16623754
Are you retarded?
This thread is about being stuck in traffic, no one is going fast kek.
>muh speed bcuz the machine does all the work

>>16624237
>Being this retarded

>>16623648
>>16623990
>living in a shitty area
>b-but muh income muh jerbs

pathetic.

>>16624129
No, it bars your dumb ass from chiming in with "necessity has nothing to do with it" then the entire discussion was about necessity. Your opinion has been BTFO and you have no counterargument now that I finally played in to your weak troll attempt.

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>>16623648
>Not lane filtering in your bike.

>>16623849
>be me
>late 1700's
>riding my horse drawn carriage
>this frenchie rides up next to me in his horseless carriage
>tells me it's the future
>calls himself an inventor
>tell him he's a heretic
>how can a good christian man ever ride a carriage propelled by witchcraft
>feed my horse
>ride home to tell my pastor

>>16623858
enjoy being lambasted by both sides then.

the side you claim to be for not being a "true" liberal", and the other side for just being a Liberal

>>16623648
Hey guys Im here learning manual with my friend candle

>>16623869
I think someone here shifts slow and doesn't put in neutral while not moving but rather holds the clutch pressed.

>>16626117
you're supposed to say all of the name "Candlejack" FIRST you r

>>16626007
>let me just open my doors for a bit to let that fart out
>oops, happen to do it just as this organ donor was doing the illegal thing he always does
>hope he won't be too fucked after he pays for my repair

>>16624797
>tfw live in SoCal
>there's literally traffic everywhere at all times of day for no apparent reason

>>16626007
>living in a state where your bike will be stolen by gangbanger thugs if you don't garage it

>>16623648
Literally just leave 3 car lengths in front of you (to help traffic), but it in first and let the clutch out slowly and wow it's just like an automatic.

Saged cause this thread is fucking cancer

>>16626554
>Literally just leave 3 car lengths in front of you (to help traffic)
This only lasts so long. Faggots can't help filling in the space, then you gotta back off again.

>>16623834
>goobergate
h e l l o r e d d i t

>>16623893
>taught to drive
>jerking off your car

wew

>>16623648
Id still prefer a manual. If im going to be in stop and go traffic id rather have something to do while stew in traffic. Most of the time i can coast in 2nd. Its not that bad unless clutching and sticking is that taxing on your body

>>16623844
You're thinking of libertarians you fuck

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>realistic dream car actually only comes in autostick
less or more douchey than auto?

(pic unrelated)

>>16625156
this. I live in a rural shithole, but it means I get to drive 55mph or more uninterrupted by anything but extremely short waits at stoplights due to no traffic home from work, every day.

>>16623844
No, he's right in general, when looking at classical ideology and what's been practiced worldwide.

t. political scientist

American "Libertarianism" is just classical Liberalism with all semblance of compromise removed.

>>16627971
That's actually an awesome deal if it was done well

>>16627988
so does everyone else in the country unless you happen to be on one of the 10 freeway stretches that gets parking lotted every day

I live in orange county, ca and cant remember the last time I had to go below 75 on the freeway.

>>16628002
>political """scientist"""

>>16623648

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>>16628128
I'll be the first to agree that it's a fucking joke of a science based on what gets approved for publishing in school journals these days.

>>16623875
Minimum wage

>live in West Texas
>every road is fucking straight for a zillion miles

I don't see a point in getting a manual out here.

What the fuck guys? Why can't both be good? Why do we have to choose one?

>>16623747
The top is less likely to get AIDS.

>>16628140
its basically extrapolating theories from ---big data--- and modeling or maybe even more basically and more rudimentary extrapolating from history it's not empirical or falsifiable.

really it's just the word "science" or "scientist" that annoys me more than anything.

>>16628235
Usually, yeah.

Qualitative studies that actually seek to go out and observe some shit don't tend to get approved by review boards, and otherwise aren't always the easiest to make extrapolations from unless you've got solid quantitative backing.

They also tend to cost money whereas most quantitative studies in the field can be done for pennies by making use of grad student slave labor if they actually require creation of new datasets.

>TRAFFIC IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN!! WHY IS THIS NOT FUN? I WISH I HAD AN AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, THAT WOULD MAKE THIS TRAFFIC SO MUCH MORE FUN!!!

>>16628225

>Allowing people to have fun in a manner I don't approve of

Bring that up again and I will discipline you.

I have literally never driven in bumper to bumper crawling and never will

High density living runs counter to basic human nature, and no amount of studies proving the existence of "more productive, creative, diverse workforces with high turnover rates and bonus skill innovation synchro-synergization" can silence the horror of what happens to civic life and individual mental health under such circumstances.

No, you can not "evolve". You can just delude yourself and live a terrible life based on robot "logic"

>i'm more efficient, i'm newer, i'm up to date...
>And those are good because?
>Lol I DUNNO

>>16623920
>Never stuck in traffic.
SON I PULLED YOU OVER BECAUSE THAT THING YOU DID DRIVING BETWEEN CARS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND IMPOLITE. DO YOU KNOW YOU COULD HAVE CRASHED AND HURT YOURSELF? GET A CAR SON, BIKES ARE WEEKEND TOYS.

>>16623920
>fall down
>get severely injured or die

Awesome

>waa i'm in traffic in a manual and my leg hurts!
you have to be a proper fat cunt for your leg to start getting sore.

>>16626155
Traffic doesn't usually stay stopped for more than a few seconds, rather it tends to crawl along at like 5mph.

>>16623648
Implying I have to drive to work during traffic hours.

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>>16626084

I live in rural Ohio
There is no traffic to get stuck in.

>>16632879
cow traffic?
no?