[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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First for best beginner bike

>Honda's design department loves you
>Honda's engineering department hates you

>>16622947
opposite way around.

>>16622950
I too loved having the same CBR600 to buy for nearly a decade

It really gave me no reason to ever get a used one

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post bikes

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>>16622965
Lean more

for those of you who commute on your bikes, what kind of boots do you ride in?

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Nice day for a ride

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>>16622965

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>>16622977
Some Sidi City boots for winter/wet. My old combat boots when it's warm

>>16622989
There's wearing mere abrasive-resistant boots because you never lean anyways and then there's this shit

>>16622989
>look like a retard on the bike
>look like a retard off the bike
nice

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>>16622965

>>16622977
USMC RAT boot.

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>>16622977
I still don't have boots.

>>16622977
Some black Sedici ADVboots. The were nice until my highside compromised the waterproof seal on the right boot. They're fine in the dry though.

>>16623081
what front fender is that?

>>16622977
I wear my work boots on the average day. I wear Dainese TRQ Tour's when I'm not commuting or just heading to the cafe.

>>16623143
>in b4 dildo commentary

Is your DR-Z functional again? I haven't followed dbt in a few weeks.

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>>16623137
Chopped stocker

>>16623143
>heading to the cafe.
Is this a joke?

>>16623159
He's in California. They have cafes everywhere.

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>>16622965

For litrebikes: vtwin or inline 4?

>>16623162
And I'm in Italy. That doesn't mean I ride with my bike to a bar, trying to be a cool kid as hard as I can.
Not that I could anyway with that shitty winter jacket I use.

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>>16623166
>For litrebikes: vtwin or inline 4?

Seriously nigger?

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So yesterday I found out a riding buddy of mine was hoonin it up on a road that contains an elementary school, middle school, and community college all on the same strip of road, with 3 lanes on each side with a concrete median in the center.

It's reported that he was doing a wheelie, lost control, and the bike managed to jump the curb striking a 15 year old girl who apparently broke both her ankles and her arm.

On a scale of 1 to Pornhub, how fucked is he?

He was arrested on site for wreckless driving.

>pic related, it was sent it to me by another riding buddy who wasn't with him but was in the area.

>>16623166
4 cylinders.

>>16623181
What a cunt. Completely fucked, he's getting jail time.

>>16623181
Efukt

>>16623166
V4. Duh.

>>16623175
>tfw no bike with RC51 looks but I4 power

>>16623175
Damn, and I thought vtwins were supposed to make lower rpm torque even if they dont make quite as much power.

The RC51 gets walked by the blade until redline, and then the blade keeps on going... literally has nothing on the 4 cylinder.

>>16623181
>it's okay to ride recklessly, you will only endanger yourself
>/dbt/ will try to find a way to defend this
Get fucked, hooligans, I hope you stupid fucks will end down a mountain before actually hurting a poor kid, like this one.

>>16623205
>implying
There's an etiquette to being a suicidal hoon. Generally not doing stupid shit around schools is one of those things.

>>16623171
I ride to two different cafes here in Iowa because I like the food and the coffee. I can't into the bar scene, but that's because I'm halfway to NEET status. I certainly don't look cool in my dorky Cortech gear but IFGAF; it's comfy.

>>16623181
They can slap him with anything from assault with a deadly weapon to child abuse and gross negligence leading to injury.

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>>16623166
Are you going to spend all your time near redline? If so inline 4. If not V-twin

>>16623214
But if it's a V-Twin like my V-Stronk, the former God's Sake, get a PowerCommander to smooth it out. It's not Harley-tier but still.

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>>16623181
>aussies

>>16623210
>hooning
>etiquette
Don't even try, please.

>>16623195
>thought vtwins were supposed to make lower rpm torque
They do that through displacement most of the time.
Consider the 959 Panigale vs Aprilia RSV4RR.
The Aprilia makes much much more power and more peak torque with just 40cc more displacement. The Ducati has a slight edge on low-end torque HOWEVER because the redline is significantly lower, it is likely geared longer, so wheel torque will be less at any road speed.

>>16623166
4 cylinders have flatter torque curves and more linear power delivery which is more predictable.

Vtwins a shit.

>>16623222
>implying there isn't
Basic not being a stupid cunt endangering others 101 m8
>Don't fly by schools
>Don't piss off cops intentionally
>Don't go through residentials revbombing people like a retard
Common sense shit. Squids don't into common sense tho.

>>16623222
He's right. if you're going to act a fool you do so somewhere you're not going to hurt anyone else.

Hooning near a school or in traffic is full retard.
Hooning on an empty back road is something else entirely.

>>16623227
>hooligan
>not being stupid
Again. Stop.
>>16623231
>fool
>making intelligent decisions

You guys are pathetic, I want you to know that.

>>16623171
so riding your bike to a business makes you a tryhard?

>>16623237
Your complete lack of argument betrays your shoddy position.

Try harder fag.

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>>16623226
>4 cylinders have flatter torque curves
Kek, where do you guys get this stuff

>That low rpm sine wave

>>16623216
I always figured the V-strom would have a pretty clean power curve

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>>16623241
>Kek, where do you guys get this stuff
Reality.

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>>16623241
>That low rpm sine wave

Lets play spot the Vtwins.

Which torque curves have the largest difference between when they sign on, hit peak torque, and sign off?
I.E.the ones with the least flat toque delivery.

>Spoiler:
>It's the Vtwins

>>16623249
>the ones with the highest torque have the highest displacements by over 200ccs

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>>16623244
Yeah man real flat power curve you got there

>>16623240
My argument is that if you drive dangerously on the road shit is bound to happen, not only to you but also to other people. As you can see from what happened to that anon's friend.
Meanwhile your argument is
>dude just be careful while you wheely and do other stupid dangerous stuff
If you can't see the oxymoron you're an idiot who shouldn't be allowed to ride motorcycles.

>>16623253
So I'm guessing you sit in the center of your lane, never go beyond 5mph over the speed limit, and never lean more than 1 degree because "that's stupid and dangerous!"

Driving dangerously and having a complete disregard for the safety of others are two different things if you save the dangerous driving to places where you only jeopardize your life.

I want reddit to leave.

>>16623252
That is a flat as shit torque curve retard. You think ANY engine isn't going to ahve some form of torque ""curve""?

Look at the "flat" ducati Vtwin torque curve shown here:
>>16623249

Then tell me that R1 dyno sheet isn't flat.

>>16623249
Man wtf is Ducati doing

>>16623253
>ride over brow of hill
>low hedges + elevation let me see road ahead
>no one around
>only pose a danger to myself
>hoon time

Lemmings squeezy.

>>16623253
>My argument is that if you drive dangerously on the road shit is bound to happen
This is a given.

>not only to you but also to other people.
If you don't hoon around other people, how is your hooning going to hurt anyone?

>As you can see from what happened to that anon's friend.
He was hooning like an idiot in front of a school with kids around like an idiot. That's the point.

>dude just be careful while you wheely and do other stupid dangerous stuff
No, my argument is if you're going to do dangerous things on a motorcycle, you do it away from others so if you do fuck up, you hurt yourself and no one else.

>>16623261
>muh superquadro
they can't make competetively powerful twins without ridiculously oversquaring their engines, resulting in gutless engines low-down, unless displacement is increased beyond any comparison (hurrdurr we can make a 200hp engine like BMW but only if we use 30% more displacement)

>>16623260
Compare the R1 to the RC8 in your graph. That's the best comparison considering they were probably run on the same dyno with a similar environment. I won't apoligize for Ducati's curve there I don't know how you lose that much torque down low with a large twin

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>>16623267
Okay.
Looking at the power curves. the R1 has a much more linear delivery and a nice plateu near peak power up top, meaning it can accelerate at near peak power for longer than the RC8R which hits it's peak power and fuel cut immediately after.

The RC8R also hits a big midrange surge but then starts to flatline at ~7krpm until it squeeks out it's peak power and signs off immediately after.

R1 has a mostly linear ramp up of power until 10,000rpm until it levels off and holds near peak power for about 3000rpm.

>>16623257
This argument again.
Riding dangerously doesn't equal riding spirited.
>>16623262
Given how stupid hooligans are their judgement about "this only poses a danger to myself!" has no value at all.
>>16623263
>hooning like an idiot
Only way to hoone, otherwise it wouldn't be hooning.
If you wanna do this shit you do it on the track or places for stuntmen, but then again you wouldn't be a hooligan anymore and that's the only thing you obviously care about.

>>16623279
>Only way to hoone, otherwise it wouldn't be hooning.

Your argument is that you're going to hurt other people.

This argument fails because you can "hoon like an idiot" by yourself with no one else around. In which case you are only endangering yourself and your property and your entire "B-but you'll hurt someone else!" argument completely falls apart.

Thus there is "hooning etiquette". If you're going to do it, don't do it around other people or in situations people are likely to be, endanger only yourself and your own shit.

If you can't understand this very basic concept you're a fucking retard.

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>>16623279
>If you wanna do this shit you do it on the track or places for stuntmen
>go to a race track if you want to pull a wheelie

>>16623279
>spirited riding
>not dangerous
AYY LMAO

>>16623279
>Given how stupid hooligans are their judgement about "this only poses a danger to myself!" has no value at all.

Your simplistic one-size-fits-all assessment of people who would pull a wheely and baseless generalizations show you're grasping for straws to pigeon hole the argument in your favor.

It is entirely reasonable and likely that there are people who enjoy hooning and are smart enough to hoon responsibly in situations where they will not hurt other people.

>>16623241
In my generation of V-Stronk it's a bit rough below 3,500 RPM or so because Suzuki tuned it pretty lean in a certain band for economy/emissions reasons. A PC fattens up that part of the range (and a little bit elsewhere) and makes for a smoother experience. I haven't invested in one yet, but all the posts I've read about rave about the smoothness.

ITT: guys who don't know how dynos work

These are all measurements taken by wotting in 6th gear
If you don't take into account the lower gearing of SS i4s it's useless
It's clear that more cylinders are better in a race environment, but the argument here is that v2s are better for city riding

When you're not wotting until redline
In 6th gear
An overdrive gear

>>16623283
>This argument fails because you can "hoon like an idiot" by yourself with no one else around
>you can hoon by yourself
Yeah but will you? Is your judgement, the judgement of a retard that behaves like this on public roads willingly, a quality one?
>likely
Lmao.

What a retard.
>>16623286
>or places for stuntmen
Reading only the parts that you want, uh?
>>16623287
Depends on your skills.
>>16623289
>hoon responsibly
This is my favourite one this far.

Please go kill yourselves on a mountain road, I have no desire to continue this farce.

>>16623298
>or places for stuntmen
Yeah because there are motorcycle stunt parks all over the place, right?
>Depends on your skills.
So it's basically hooning then? If you're shit you will lose control of your bike and possibly send it flying into someone.

>>16623298
>a retard that behaves like this on public roads
Rich coming from the guy who does spirited riding on public roads. Go to a track if you want to push yourself and your bike.

>>16623293
>If you can't see the oxymoron you're an idiot who shouldn't be allowed to ride motorcycles.

Most dynos (all of the ones plotted here) are plotted over RPM as the 'time' component. This effectively invalidates any differences in final ratio between the bikes.

The story is different if you plot wheel speed at the 'time' component.

>but the argument here is that v2s are better for city riding
No, literally no one has made that argument here.

>When you're not wotting until redline
The argument was that inline 4's offer a flatter torque curve and a more linear power delivery, which is true. linear power delivery is less likely to catch you off guard or surprise you in a turn.

On the other hand, overly strong midrange torque and sudden increases in torque/power do catch you out and are more likely to overwhelm rear wheel traction.

>In 6th gear
>An overdrive gear
Pretty much no sport bikes have an overdrive 6th gear. 4 cylinder sport bikes typically ahve around a 1.2:1 6th gear.

And your argument further doesn't make sense because a vtwin sportbike with it's shorter redlines would require overall, taller gearing per gear. As a general rule if a bike has a 30% lower redline it will typically have around 30% taller gearing per gear to compensate for road speed, and thus will effectively have 30% LESS torque available in a given gear. Which means a Vtwins torque advantage disappears for any given speed unless it makes more than 30% torque than an equivalent 4 cylinder at a given read speed in a given gear.

>>16623313
This guy speaks the truth.

>>16623298
>Yeah but will you?
You can, and many do. This invalidates your argument that "any" hooning is going to hurt someone else and that there is no etiquette to it.

>the judgement of a retard that behaves like this on public roads willingly, a quality one?
Nothing suggest it is impossible to have good judgement and enjoy hooning in a responsible manner where you only endanger yourself.

You are trying to fabricate a false dichotomy where anyone who is going to hoon lacks the judgement to hoon responsibly and with other people's safety in mind. This argument, logically, doesn't hold up. you have not proven anything to that effect and you are simply spraying your biased and generalized opinions with no basis.

>Please go kill yourselves on a mountain road, I have no desire to continue this farce.
Someone killing themselves on a back road would not prove your argument as they would likely only hurt themselves because they were hooning responsibly.

Enjoy riding a motorcycle without ever actually enjoying it to it's fullest because you think it's unsafe to do anything other than peter along a the speed limit.

>>16623305
>Yeah because there are motorcycle stunt parks all over the place, right?
You don't have to wheelie, you know that, right?
You could, god forbid, have fun riding the bike.
>So it's basically hooning then? If you're shit you will lose control of your bike and possibly send it flying into someone.
Yeah, except there's a thing called "riding license" that should avoid that.
>>16623309
Never said I do that, I said there's a difference.
>>16623324
>Someone killing themselves on a back road would not prove your argument
No but it would make the world a better and safer place for everyone else.

>>16623313
>And your argument further doesn't make sense because a vtwin sportbike with it's shorter redlines would require overall, taller gearing per gear. As a general rule if a bike has a 30% lower redline it will typically have around 30% taller gearing per gear to compensate for road speed, and thus will effectively have 30% LESS torque available in a given gear. Which means a Vtwins torque advantage disappears for any given speed unless it makes more than 30% torque than an equivalent 4 cylinder at a given read speed in a given gear.
I think I understand that but my brain hurts from trying.

>>16623333
>and safer place for everyone else.
This is the premise of your argument but logically it doesn't hold up and you have not demonstrated it.

False dichotomies are failed arguments.

Lost my license for 6 months.

>>16623340
>I think it's safe so it's safe
Yeah, tell me about it.

>>16623343
I never claimed anything was safe.

I stated the simple reality that if you don't hoon around people you can't hurt other people. Thus is is possible to hoon responsibly, conform to a basic etiquette, and only endanger yourself and your own possessions.

You claim otherwise and fail a basic logical argument.

>>16623349
1. You can't know if you're alone on the road
2. You can't predict what will happen if you lose control
Note how I used the form "can't", not the one "don't".

>>16623341
how

>>16623333
>have fun riding the bike
But they do? They just do it with one wheel off the ground sometimes.
>a thing called "riding license" that should avoid that.
Having a motorcycle license doesn't make you a good rider and it sure as hell doesn't mean you're capable of doing any spirited riding safely.

>>16623354
>1. You can't know if you're alone on the road
This is false. Simple eyesight can tell you whether you are alone on a road. People and cars are not invisible.

>2. You can't predict what will happen if you lose control
You can't know exactly what will happen, but you can be positively sure your bike will not fly 2 miles into the next town and land on a toddler.

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>tfw oil leak between head and cylinder

>>16623358
>Having a motorcycle license doesn't make you a good rider and it sure as hell doesn't mean you're capable of doing any spirited riding safely.
>murrica
That's why I said "should".
>>16623362
Do you realize they're called accidents for a reason, right?

>>16623356
Speeding offences lead to good behaviour period, neg riding charge breached that. Selling my bike and going travelling for 6 months throughout the suspension

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>>16623371
TRAFFIC COLLISIONS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puK5CwThaq4

>>16623365
What bike?
>Welcome to the Harley lifestyle

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AAAAAHHHH
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/vacation?iso=20170729T10&p0=%3A&msg=SUPER+EUROMEET&ud=1&font=slab&csz=1

>>16623376
No, I used accident on purpose.
He thinks he can predict while he can't. If you're doing something extreme you can't avoid accidents.

>>16623380
1971 CT90, just rebuilt the engine a few months back. Not sure if it's because I decided to use the old head as is or if I just rode it too hard.

>>16623371
>Do you realize they're called accidents for a reason, right?
They are called "accidents" because the term does not assign blame to any parties and is used as a means for explaining an incident without attributing fault to oneself or others.

This is irrelevant to the current discussion however.
If done responsibly you can hoon without the possibility of "accidentally" landing your bike on a toddler by choosing your location carefully, prerunning the area, and ensuring you have adequate sight lines.

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>>16623241
>>16623252
I always feel like you should be smarter than this but you never are. Like you should know that flat torque curves are about more than just the cylinder count and a flat torque curve has as much to do with bore/stroke as it does with the fueling and ignition timing.

I4s can be just as linear as V-twins and generally are more linear when it comes to performance models, a lot of v-twins are tuned to be flat which is why they are, when I4 engines are designed to be flat they are.

You're posting engines from 1000cc superbikes, but you won't find a flat torque curve on a superbike v-twin either, have a look at a dyno from a panigale.

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>>16623400

>>16623371
>Murrica
Nice try but no, m8.
>That's why I said "should".
Yeah, well it doesn't. Not even in the places with the most mandatory training.

>>16623383
Thanks. I always wanted a countdown timer to my birthday.

>>16623205
>Hoonigan

>>16623393
>>16623390

>>16623391
As someone whose owned 3 old Honda's, sounds like an old Honda. How hot is it where you are? Also what's it like to ride? I want a shitbike and I like the xr100 but those aren't Street legal

>>16623413
It's pretty comfy but I'm on the tail end of winter. People ride my ass because I can barely manage 45, but with low range you can climb just about anything. I got stuck waiting on a train once and slapped it in low and rode a quarter mile of loose rocks to the next crossing.

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>>16622977

>>16623427
It could be you just ragged the shit out of it. Did you replace all seals and gaskets?

>>16623439
probably, that's the plan next pay check. The oil flows into the head through one of the stud holes and out through the cam chain cavity. they're right next to each other so I can't tell exactly, I figure replace them all while I'm at it and if it continues replace the head or get it machined, whichever is cheapest

>>16622977
Alpinestar gortex

>>16623477
I'm liking the detail

>>16623463
A replacement head for a ct90 has to be super cheap

>>16623503
Head*

>>1662350
$200 for NOS heads that you'll have to install and ream valve guides into or $250 for DrATV's rebuilt heads with everything but rocker arms and pins. Though I think I might try and swap in an ATC125 engine if I end up having to spend that much

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Come across anything cute n furry while riding lately lads?

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>>16622965

>>16623544
More like rip in pieces

>>16623552
HIYOOOOOO

>>16623528
That's honestly not bad at all.
>Not running a cr125 powered trail 90

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>>16623544
yes

>>16622923
this is fucking Bullshit
I crashed my bike a month ago for the first time and the only replacement fairing I could find is a slightly different color from the rest of the body

will this stand out? I feel like shit man

>>16623578
Good. It will show people you're an autist

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this is my bike and i love it

What would /dbt/ buy between an ETV 1000 Caponord (with abs) 2005 and a Moto Morini 1200 Granpasso (2009), about the same price and equipment ?
Both are reliable, even ultra reliable for the aprilia, comfy, cheap, about the same torque but a bit more power for the granpasso (118hp vs 98hp), Granpasso is a bit lighter (about 10-15kg lighter), Caponord is a bit cheaper but uglier and less hard to sell than the Granpasso...

I'm really attracted to both, the idea is to get a reliable bike to make an European tour (about 21 000km) with something reliable, comfy but still fun to ride.

Which one would you chose ?

>>16623597
>the idea is to get a reliable bike

something japanese then

>>16623601
yeah sure but i still want something more fun to ride than a japanese bike. And the rotax engine from the Aprilia is rock solid, the Granpasso have the reputation to be reliable as well.

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>>16623611
fun comes from the rider, not from the bike.

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>>16623618
nah there is some engine who give you more sensation than others, that's a true fact.
Anyway, that's not the answer i want
>get something else durrr

Pic related, both bikes

>>16623627
>Anyway, that's not the answer i want
Stop trying to be a special snowflake

>>16623544
I haven't ridden in 2 months, what's riding like

>>16623647
What's wrong with wanting to be unique

>>16623665
It's glorious. Gonna be in the 70s today and gonna go ride the ferry

Should i purchase a ke100 2001 street legal dual sport as my first bike, or do you guys have a suggestion for a real one that i can beat up? (since im a fuckin noob, literally neverridden a motorcycle before. I am really good at normal bikes tho, so i can balance and what not) please help im looking at this $950enduro on craigs and im wondering if there's a better option. https://raleigh.craigslist.org/search/mca

>>16623647
i don't want to be a special snowflake, i just asked about a choice between 2 bikes and people just answer me to not take thoses 2 and buy another one, that's just dumb.

Best cheap smol supersport?
Wanted a vfr for racan, but they cost upwards of 8k around here

>>16623578
forgot pic
>>16623585
come on man most of us here have crashed atleast once.

>>16623562
There's be so much cutting and welding to get that to fit the frame it wouldn't even resemble a super cub once you were done.

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>>16623714
400cc supersports are not significantly lighter than any modern 600, in fact most are heavier.

I know you wannabe a snowflake real bad, but the answer is just a nice modern 600.

>>16623676
pls somebody answer ^

>>16623666
Nothing wrong with being unique, but buying a bike like that for the sake of uniqueness is stupid.

>>16623700
It's like asking what's better between choosing to get syphilis it herpes.

Why not just avoid either and fuck a girl (or boipucci in your case) who doesn't have problems.

>>16623676
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/5992783730.html

>>16623727
I don't want to get a 600 because
>I already have a 750
>I don't need ~150hp
>I am looking for something cheap
That said i might actually go for an RS 250
Seems best value at ~900€

And yes, i will properly care for it, it wouldn't be my first 2t not my DD

>>16623736
>do you want it
Yes!
>buy it

Yw

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>>16623718
how fucking autistic am I

>>16623745
If he wants to be unique he should get a Harley

>>16623753
Agreed, then he'd have a REAL motorcycle, brother

>>16623748
a 900eur rs250 is probably fucked
post ad

>>16623759
Personally I like spending more time cleaning and miring my hawg than riding it.

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>>16623727
>tfw I've gone off onto grass like that
Shit's fucking sketchy m8.

>>16623772
>poser boy racer
>almost dies
All adds up

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>>16623778
>almost dies
Fiery crash and death soon™

>>16623778
Kek

>>16623784
At least you dont have poser race livery on a poser race bike.

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>>16623771
Kek
>TFW not much chrome

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>>16623787
FirebladeAnon isn't a poser boyracer, he just rides like a nigger who can lean.

I'm the other boyracer

can u guys help me

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/5992783730.html

or

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/5985331828.html

>>16623793
Needs more chrome phamalamdingdong

>>16623800
Obviously the XT

>>16623800
Blue one

>>16623745
I dont want to buy one of thoses bike for the sake of uniqueness. I just like them, what's wrong with liking them and wanting to chose between them ?

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>>16622965
Notice me sempai!

>>16623800
4 stroke will be better to learn on and require less intensive maintenance.

>>16623802
Tru

>>16623813
Because my autism won't allow it.

>>16623797
>who can lean
>proceeds to post pathetic strips
uhhh

>>16623814
Wtf is a sempai? Fuck off newfag

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>>16623828
Nah his tendies are alright

>>16623813
don't take advice from kit kat.
here's a list of people to ignore:
Kitkat
Keenyo
fireblade anon
MV anon
Anybody with a naked SV650
Anybody with an R3

love from your friendly neighbourhood oldfag

>>16623627
Aprilia simply because it doesn't look like a retarded bird.

>>16623800
This looks like shit but you could pick it up for 700 and it has a title

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/5936451588.html

>>16623181
>doing wheelies on the fucking road
>not going to a parking lot
>clearly trying to show off to the underage girl her ended up hitting
hes gonna get everything he deserves

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>>16623833
Fuck you and your dubs

Now post your bike

>>16623894
Can't argue with dubs of truuf nyukkah

>>16623833
for real kit kat makes me hate browsing dbt

>>16623906
depends, he's less than 10% of the thread right now.

He used to be 20-25% of any /dbt/ he took part in, so I guess compared to peak kit kat kancer this is pretty tolerable.

>>16623899
Jesus Christ he did it again (⊙﹏⊙'\)

>>16623800
Hey Raleigh senpai. Hmu thru the map if you wanna ride together and catch my cancer

>>16623833
thanks for your advice mate

>>16623837
honestly i find the MM more esthetic, but that's purely personal.

>>16623833
>love from your friendly neighbourhood nobike

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http://www.windburnedeyes.com/bikes/cleveland-cyclewerks-will-manufacture-motorcycles-in-us

What do you think? Good move for them?

>>16623923
What part of Carolina you in? Va here

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>>16623996
wait that's why the bruce belfer EBR deal fell through?

I need a moment.

God I hate the stupid fucks that buy those CCW pieces of shit.

>>16624007
N Raleigh

>>16623914
Thanks senpai

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>>16623996
>The company is small and lean but powerful, just like the motorcycles it sells.
>As you can probably tell, I'm a big fan of Scott and all that CCW does.

yeah I'm officially mad, thanks anon.

>>16624035
Yeee. Only 3hrs away.
You going to the obx bike fest? Hopefully hurricane free this time

>>16623996
I think it's cool. Glad that there's a cool looking entry level domestic made motorcycle that looks genuinely American.

>>16624048
I very well might. I think Indian anon is gonna go again, maybe we can meet up

>>16624063
Das me yo.

It's about an a half for me to get down that way. Not sure what days I'll be heading down. But I'll be there I'm sure

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>>16622984
my bike>your bike

>>16624073
Oh hey. You mean bike week? That's the one in April, bike fest isn't til fall.

>>16624083
Yea. Honestly didn't realize they had different titles.
How's the weather for yall today? Gonna hit the 70s up this way today. Might as well go hit up some old battlefields

>>16624093
Yeah it's just as nice here. Bike night tonight, I may go to that. Otherwise probably gonna head out to some back roads

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>>16624101
Nice! We had a pretty good turnout last night at the local chill spot.
Bit cloudy here but im sure after work plenty of people will be out.
Thinking of doing a blue Ridge Parkway run if it's nice all weekend

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need to take my gas tank off to check the valves. Can't find a fuel valve anywhere. How do I disconnect my tank without it pissing fuel everywhere? never had the tank off a fuel injected bike before.
2001 F4i

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>>16624125
>admitting you ride a bike with a valanced front

>>16624141
Disconnect it from the fuel rail.

It's generally easier if you siphon the fuel out first.

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>>16624125
Yeah I'd like to get out over there, but I think it's gonna cool off after tomorrow

>>16624141
you realize what a fuel pump does, right? there should be some breather hoses and a clip style plug for the fuel. just unclip it like you normally would. it won't piss everywhere except for what is in the fuel line itself

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>>16624144
K den

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>>16622965
just washed the ol' duc'

used some muck off

>>16624163
Rain tmrw but sat and Sunday are looking to be in upper 60s low 70s. Plenty of hooning to be done

>>16624169
How about you lean it and wash those fat chicken strips off

>>16624178
I haven't rode it for like 2 months

That's just wet tyre from rolling it about

>>16624144
What did he mean by this?

>>16624176
Oh hell yeah, maybe I'll get out to the beach this weekend or something

>>16624178
are you retarded? (rhetorical q obv)

you cant even see the chicken strips from the angle of that pic

>>16623578

yeah buddy welcome to the club. it's virtually impossible to return a bike to OEM condition after a crash at a reasonable price. that is why my ninja 250 looks like a fucking frankenstein now

>OEM blinker on one side, chinese on the other
>missing bottom fairings completely
>dented gas tank that is a different color cause i had to replace mine
>missing windshield because i have no idea how the fuck to attach it back on

thing runs nice tho.

also the front brakes are a little wonky because....

>took off front caliper to clean the pistons
>forgot to push the pistons out before removing them
>have a genius idea to put brake fluid in through the brake line valve, plug it, and then use a torch to heat the caliper up until the brake fluid boils and builds pressure to push the pistons out
>mfw sat there for 15 minutes doing this
>mfw it worked
>mfw completely destroyed the rubber seals so now the front brakes are a little wonky but still work ok enough

>>16624192
>not buying a front caliper rebuild kit

>>16624190
That's what's up. I need to stop slacking and go down to my buddies in Avon and fuck around on some boats

>>16624185
t. cantturn

>>16624191
t. cantsee

>>16624202
t. cantthink

>>16624214
>Puffs vape pen angrily

>>16624198
Good friend just got a 50' Viking. unfortunately it's still down in West Palm, he isn't making the trip back up here for another few weeks so I have to wait :( I wanna get out on the water though

>>16624227
Fuck yes! Boats are where it's at. Same buddy of mine has a good size sailboat he wants to give me. He has to many boats and just wants to downsize. I wanna say it's around 20ft ish or so.

Maybe I'll stop slacking and go snag it this summer

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R E A S O N A B L E

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R O T K E H L C H E N

>>16624317
>>16624322
Would rather a v twin peterbike

>>16624331
More like you'd rather have twin peters in your v, amiright?

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>>16624335

>>16624335
>2l v2
>breathe on throttle
>loop

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POST

ROADS

Post your favorite local road and rate others'
Put area code or nearest city to help build the official /dbt/ suicide list

>>16624367
Most modified s&s motors are well into that range

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>>16624373
Forgot, this is near Austin, TX

>>16624347
do you have to try hard to be this gay or does it come naturally?

>>16624381
Only 4 u BB ;)

>>16624381
Kit kat is way too shitty at everything, even being gay doesn't come naturally to him.

>>16624388
you've been on this website for like 4 years at least but you're still as much of a newfaggot as you were on day 1

>>16624420
I've been here a lot longer than that famalam

>>16624161
>>16624164
Disconnected the first fuel line (clamped on) and it started pissing fuel. I let the whole fucking tank drain out that line into another gas can. Then when I disconnected the other one (bolted onto fuel rail) and just a little more came out.

>>16624192
>>have a genius idea to put brake fluid in through the brake line valve, plug it, and then use a torch to heat the caliper up until the brake fluid boils and builds pressure to push the pistons out
jesus what the fuck

Who /250cc/ here?
what do you ride?
I ride Kawasaki Z250SL

>>16624540
>Vfr800
>Cb250

I ride the 250 more than the vfr. Its a pretty good shitbike.

>>16624192
jesus christ you're retarded

>>16624373
>post favorite road
>not really interested by click image and look anyways
>instantly see jew rubbing hands
god damn /pol/

>>16624584
okay cool post road

>>16623181
hes fucked

>>16623727
how the fuck is he sliding the bike like that

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>>16624540
R25 here
>14k rpm feels

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Guys help, i have a bit of panel gap

>>16624831
Post boipucci tho

Regarding goretex lifetime warranty....
how do I get a pair of boots replaced?

And how do I make them leak?

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>>16624888
Anon, i'm a 90kg hairy fatass, you don't wanna see pucci

>>16624981
>90kg
lol start cutting for sem

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>>16622977
A Stylmartin riding shoes.

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https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/mcy/5989647432.html
Someone buy this before I go and make a bad decision

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>>16622977
Alpinestars SMX-6

Not waterproof, but they're so damn comfy I don't care. Great protection, too.

>>16622965

>>16625011
>Gpz series started the superbike trend
First real sentence is a lie
Would not buy

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>>16622965

>>16622977
Alpinestar Roam2, comfy waterproof boots.

>>16625011
You could get a fuel injected fz6 or vfr for that much

>>16625124
Yeah but he wants to cuckfe that because he needs a bike with a soul and passion

>>16625138
Plz don't cafe a stock good condition ujm, just buy a cafe project that's already started

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http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/project-chieftain#bike-gallery

vote and you get entered to win a Chieftain

>>16623752
Which part is the new one? Can't spot a color difference.

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Jesus, look at this hektik filtering.
ALMOST DIED 720p MOTORCYCLE NEAR CRASH HAYABUSA

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>>16625461
>>16625484
Take it to a parking lot, godamn hooligan

>>16625461
[british accent] Madman.

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>>16625507
ikr
look at this corner, I should really start doing track days before I kill someone

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Though my braking is on point.

Okay guys. I haven't ridden since I was 8 or so. What motorbike should I get for commuting 10-12 city miles a day? Preferably gas efficient.

>t. newfag to /o/

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>>16625527
You madman, I'm amazed you have any footpeg left to ride on!

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A classic.

>>16625539
The GS500 is objectively the best beginner bike.
> mileage
It's a mid-sized 4stroke twin cylinder bike, so it drinks less than 6 liters per 100 km.
> handling
It handles nothing like a supersport, spoiling you for when you get something else. But it can also corner much better than something like a cruiser, and actually uses its entire rear tire unlike a Ninja 250.
> brakes
They are complete shit and their only redeeming feature is that they're disc brakes. This is good because the longer braking distance forces new riders to plan ahead and start braking early. No ABS means they learn to brake properly I'd they don't want to get shrekt.
> power
It sits right at the power limit for A2 bikes which is great for euros. It's torquey enough to be faster off the line than most cars you'll encounter in the city. But it also feels relatively gutless so a) it's forgiving of mistakes and b) you can ride it at the limit without putting yourself into too much danger. It reaches up to 180 km/h which is fast enough for highway riding.
> carbs
It being carbed means that if you run into problems, you can learn to fix them yourself instead of heading to the mechanic every time.
> seating position
Upright, slightly forward means it's a neutral riding position so you can figure out what you want afterwards. The seat is relatively uncomfortable making literally every other bike after it will feel like heaven on your ass.
> price and availability
Parts and the bikes themselves are cheap and plentiful. If you crash and fuck up one of your fairings it's 40 euros to replace it with original parts. Engine needs little maintenance. Beginner riders are typically not financially independent, so this is a big plus for them.
> suspension
It's a budget suspension factoring into the overall low cost of getting a GS 500. If you want better suspension it's easy to swap. Therefore it gives beginners an opportunity to learn working on suspension while keeping the cost manageable.

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Not even the GS 500 wants to be near itself.

>get overtaken by car for no reason
>wasn;t going slow
>filter past him at traffic lights anyway

Also, is it ok to pass stationary cars on the left? (in the UK).

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And to top it off, the final classic. Thanks for sharing this throwback with me.

>>16625544
Jokes on you, the GS doesn't have footpegs anymore.

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>>16625552
>gets btfo by a 400
GS a shit

>>16625573
Not uk, enerally I simply go where there's space, left, right, it's all the same.

>>16625580
T H I C C

>>16625585
what if its a bicycle lane, still ok?

>>16625552

To make the GS500 the objectively best beginner bike, you will have to make the SV650 not exist first.

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Fucked up my LH fairing pretty bad on my ninja 300.

Want to sell my bike, trying to figure out what I should do. Should I try to DIY? (Tried to sand/prime/paint once and it got all fucked up), should i buy a new fairing + decals? What's the best way to sell this bike for the maximum amount of money, should I buy new parts for everything that is scratched or try to find someone who will buy as is?

I'd like at least 2300 USD. It's got less than 2k miles

>>16625603
You mean FZ6
Since its better in every regard

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>>16625603
I don't need to make or unmake anything, the GS 500 is and always has been the premier beginner bike.
Even the ancient Egyptians knew this, devoting a glyph to the one and only true meme bike.

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>>16625608
Total damage:

LH Handlebar slightly bent, scratched on bar ends
LH Mirror scratched
LH Lower belly cowl scratched
LH Lower cowling scratched pretty bad, I can fix it probably but it would require removing the decals to look decent...
LH Backseat cowling chipped

I'm estimating close to $500 or more to fix this shit. Is it worth it? I don't plan on keeping it, I just want to sell it.

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>>16625613

>>16625610
Fz6 is 100hp. That's a lot for a beginner with a 420lb bike

>>16625635
Its super tame. Go ride one. You dont notice the power unless you want the power.
Unlike the GS. Where you never notice power... ever...

if I want to filter in a narrow road should I just fucking do it? I am scared of hitting the car coming at me.

>>16625608
>>16625613
>>16625632
Why do you want to sell it?

>>16625598
Pretty sure that's a technical no but who gives a fuck. I do it sometimes because it's just safer than going down the right.

>>16625709
I'm moving across the country

>>16625645
If you've never ridden a bike, it's about the equivalent of putting a brand new driver behind the wheel of a gt500

>>16625598
I avoid filtering up the far left of traffic simply because people don't expect you to be there. Most drivers check the right hand mirror more than the left.

>>16625729
Seriously no. Unless youre a total retard.

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Why don't you ride faster than the photographer can shoot, /dbt/?

>>16625745
I do though. Why do you think there aren't any photographs of me actually riding?

>>16625745
Suzuki riders cant.

>>16625734
You do know the gt500 has a power to weight ratio of like 5.5 pounds per horsepower. An fz6 is around 4.5 pounds per horsepower, with less wheels and stability

>>16625768
You realize they both only make that much power at wide open throttle at or near redline?

>>16625768
Don't bother shitkat. We all know you just have to 'respect the throttle' and everything will be good.

>>16625720
I'd fix it before selling if I were you.
A wrecked bike will be a pain to sell. I mean, I wouldnt even consider buying a bike with such damage.

>>16622989
fucking retard

>>16625784
theres no mechanical problems, nothing crached or broken, its literally just scrapes

>>16625779
That doesn't negate what I say at all. Hell an sv650 accelerates 0-60 in less than 4 seconds. That's stupid quick. Something in the mid to low 3s is a lot of bike for someone who doesn't know how to ride. There's a reason the sticky says what it does and I believe it

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>>16625839
Then every beginner should start on a pw50.
So they can step up slowly to an adult bike that normal adults can handle.

>>16624144
i don't get it

>>16625608
Damn that slid a long way. How fast were you going anon?

>>16625839

Not everyone is a literal nigger with no impulse control who will rip it and think about consequences later while brand new to the hobby

>>16625849
I wish I'd had one as a kid, I'd be raw at riding.

There's something to be said about yurops system. It makes you better

>>16625539
Where's are you from?
Any 125/250/300 will have ridiculous fuel economy compared to a car

>>16625827
Its not about what is actually wrong with it, but about what it looks it could be wrong.

If its not confident inspiring, it wont sell.

>>16625883
All yuros are gay
All yuro riders did yuro training
yuro training is 4 gay

>>16624831
clean your bike shivvy

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>>16625883
But in America, you're already better than everyone

>>16625925
Checkmate, atheists

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>>16625973
Freedom ain't free

Should I get an adventure tourer or a normal tourer?

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>>16622977
Sidi B1 for commuting over half an hour or outside of the city and my Dockers Boots for short trips around the city. In the summer heat I also wear some sneakers for town trips.

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>>16626059
Smaller dual sport

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>>16626059
Adventure!
Because the best places dont have a paved road.

>>16626059
why do i get the feeling that when you say "adventure tourer" you mean "pigfat 1000+ cc bike that's way too big to actually go anywhere other than the highway"

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>>16626098
i mean something like one of these.

people say its ugly but I like the rugged aesthetic.

>>16626132
Looks like if a busa raped a striple

I'm not into the MotoGP but I watched a few videos in youtube and didn't see any Kawasaki, why is that?

>>16626138
>>16626138

New thread

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>>16626159
Kawasaky is so good they don't need to compete.
At least this is what they tell to themselves.

>>16624817
This Bike isn't sold at european market, probably because Pollution Regulations.
where do you live?

>>16625933
No dirt
That is all rust and caked dust

>>16626189
eurofailia has been cucked by the squirrel squeezing envirofags