Collectively, will they BTFO ze Germans?

>>16616666
Why is Cadillacs logo so ugly

>>16616666
easily considering how shit BMW and Mercedes have become.

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rooting for both genesis and alfa

they have the best chance

>>16616678
Because they had to pull the "futuristic take on an old thing" meme, which almost always ends in shit

>>16616666
collectively sure
>volvo makes safer, more reliable cars than the germans
>alfa romeo makes much prettier cars than the germans
winning combo

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>>16616666
*die
But at that point you might as well say der if you're going to mix German and English. Where did the ze meme come from though? It means "you" not "the". Or do people just say ze because it sounds good?

>>16616666 (checked)
Noone can beat the Porsche 918 in anything except for price and offroad.

>>16617283
>porsche 918
pretty sure the bulk of porsche's sales is 911's not 918's which are small volume hypercars, besides the ones they have to beat are BMW and Mercedes not Porsche who only has a meager share of the US market

>>16617175
It looks like GM just horizontally scaled the middle part of the old logo to 200%

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>Hyundai Genesis brand
Will do decent for a Korean brand, should have kept the coupe to build a loyal young fanbase
>Lincoln
Le v6 Ecoboost is future xDDDD. Fucking failure
>Alfa Romeo
Fucking V6 auto only. Watched all their Superbowl ads with normies and they thought it was a $30k car
>Volvo
Boring grandma cars. Care more about pedestrian safety than making them interesting
>Cadillac
Only brand capable of competing with performance BMWs. But then they take the CTS-V, make it auto only, drop the coupe and WAGON. Completely dropped the ball on a very promising performance branch.

>>16616666
Audi? Easily. Beating the Bavarians and the maker of Hitler's car? Not so easy.

What do they have to answer to the M2? To the endless slew of manual RWD models performance that BMW offers, or to the AMG models with monstrous V8 and V12 engines?

GM already makes a better plug-in hybrid than any German automaker, even besting BMW's i3.

>>16617363
>GM hybrids better than worst german hybrid

BMW i8 and Porsche 918 are the best hybrids available.

>>16617374
The i8 is a joke

>>16616666
holy shit, quads confirms...well, for volvo and alfa anyway, hyundai still a shit.

>>16617374

All electric range
BMW i8: 15 miles
Chevy Volt: 53 miles

Average fuel economy in hybrid operation
BMW i8: 28 mpg
Chevy Volt: 42 mpg

Cargo capacity
BMW i8: 4.7 cubic feet
Chevy Volt: 10.6 cubic feet

Seating capacity
BMW i8: 4
Chevy Volt: 5

Rear seat leg room
BMW i8: 28.2 inches
Chevy Volt: 34.70 inches

>>16617378
It isn't a bad commuter. Ridiculous to pay that much, but if I were filthy rich and wanted a cool looking appliance I'd certainly consider an i8.

>>16617417
It's an exotic sports car that happens to be hybrid for extra special snowflake points. It's not practical, it's not reliable, it's not efficient.

>>16617474
This

lol

no

>>16617416

Why not compare it to the ELR?

>>16618054
>>16617416

Or even the CT6?