What cars have bottomed out in value and can only go up?

>>16613337
Bmw wont come back up in price.
No one wants slow shitty cars

>>16613350
>Useless opinion

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>>16613352
Honestly terrible cars

Z32tt
3kgtvr4

Only the value of non-fucked e36s will go up

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>>16613368
>More terrible cars
Holy fuck
>delusions the thread

RX7 FD

E36 M3 EVO with the 3.2 liter 321hp engine values have been going up for the past 2 years or so
dunno about the U.S models

>>16613350
What about E30s, my dumb friend?

>>16613380
It never bottomed out.
Its been peaked for years too.

>>16613380
These are low?

I feel like mkiv supras have come down

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>>16613384

>>16613386
>>16613389
mainly because of the rotaries are unreliable meme has spread among car enthusiasts

>>16613398
Its the most reliable car posted in this thread.

>>16613392
E30 M3s cost $100k and above
That is 15 times more expensive than your favourite car

>>16613392
What is your point? Could it be, that you have none?

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>>16613404
>100k for a car slower than a corolla
Wew

>>16613416
Even if that was true, you would only be digging yourself a deeper hole.
If E30s are so shit yet so expensive, it means that people fucking crave BMWs and they will surely skyrocket in value.

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>>16613432
>typical bmw fag delusion

>>16613416
source on this? when did a corolla beat an m3?

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>>16613445
Its well documented that the corolla beat it a few times.
Bmw a shit
GMs are faster

>>16613451
can you give me one definitive example?

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>>16613455
>google

Maybe the C5 corvette?

>>16613404
What the fuck are you talking about?

Maybe one that is all original with 3k miles.

>>16613460
interesting... you cannot name a single race in which a corolla beat an m3, yet claimed it happened various times

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>>16613337

>>16613451
How many times did the m3 beat the corolla though?

>>16613472
CASH ME DOWNHILL
HOW BOW DAH

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>>16613472
Just google corolla in btcc
>>16613477
Once is enough to say bmw a shit. Was more than once however.
In fact civics have won in the past 4 years or so.

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>>16613337
I'm surprised nobody mentioned it earlier.

>price bottomed up
>will only gain value


>thanks americucks

>>16613486
looked and could not find anything. weird how you can't link me to a reliable source showing a corolla with a better time than an m3.

>>16613492
These could legit become classic Beetle-tier.

>>16613416
a $1.3 million 1957 BMW 507 can also be slower than a corolla
It is still better than a Corolla though because it is rwd

>>16613486
Did the M3 ever race in BTCC?
I can only member boring 3 series saloons

>>16613494
The E30 M3 is the most successful racing car ever with the most outright motorsport wins, the only car with more wins than the 911.
The corolla autist is just a well known /o/ troll(s)

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>>16613494
Not that hard to find

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>>16613534
The miata is the most successful race car ever
The corolla is the most sold car ever.
Bmw makes shit cars

>>16613362
>sloyota holding up a bmw about to lap him

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>>16613451
>>16613460
Seriously GM what the fuck.

>picture of an m3 triggers a Toyota fag
>Thread ruined

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>>16613602
Its an over hyped shitbox that bmw fanboys cant accept is shit.
>>16613593
Sweet sweet denial

>>16613577
>corolla passing a parked bmw
>corolla is faster than bmw!!!
holy fuck

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>>16613577
That pic looks suspiciously like a Carina E and not a Corolla, desu. The Carinas did quite a bit of racing, Not familiar with the E10 Corolla doing the same.

>>16613577
Street races and touge battles don't count as motorsport wins you weeb.
Sorry to hear about your awful taste, you sad deluded person
https://augustman.com/sg/Gear/Motoring/BMW-M3-The-Most-Successful-Car-in-Motorsport-History
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/general-car-chat/296392-bmw-e30-m3-most-successful-touring-car-all-time.html
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2009/05/07/the-road-cars-of-touring-car-racing-bmw-m3-e30/
http://www.motorsportretro.com/2013/10/pure-intentions-pure-handling-pure-sound-the-legendary-e30-m3/
Some articles to open up your disturbed mind messed up by Japanese cartoons

>>16613610
This thread isn't about the me specifically

You're gay

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>>16613631
>most raced car in the world
Miata
>most wins by a race car
Miata
Bmw could only win in btcc. And even then was beat by a corolla more than once.
Stay deluded bmw fag

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>>16613646
The Miata may be the most raced car in your local track during track days. Does not make it the most raced car in the world though
And too bad you're illiterate, otherwise you could actually open and read the links I posted, or just stay deluded, whatever makes you feel better.

>>16613398
Not a meme if it's a fact, right? Some people will keep defending a flawed design.

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>>16613662
>if you cant see it, its not true
Stay in deep denial bmw fag

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Way to devolve an actual useful topic into autistic screeching. Fucking idiots. My pick is the Lexus sc300

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>>16613689
Bmw fags need to learn

>>16613689
These were not popular enough when they were new. Will not go up in value.

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And now a BMW that will actually go up in value

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>>16613673
so assravaged

>>16613702
>proves bmw can only win (barely) in btcc
Ok then.
No one cares about a hyped shitbox
Still lost to a corolla more than once.

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>>16613692
Tons of cars weren't popular when they came out but go up in value later. But I think theyll go up because they are literally 200 bucks for a clean one a blown motor and you can slot in a TT 2jz easily. They are already becoming a popular car in the US to strip out and go drifting with. So over time they will be crashed and become scarce and expensive like 240's. This is in the US I mean.

>>16613710
>muh BTCC
The E30 dominated in Group A not BTCC you autistic jap dicklover

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>The 240SX will NEVER be cheap ever again
>A clean stock 240SX in decent condition is essentially Unicorn tier rarity

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>>16613729
Never said i liked jap cars
I posted fwd GM shitboxes dominating bmws as well.
Its just pathetic when muh ultimate driving machine gets beat by fwd shitcars.
How could anyone without brain damage defend such a pile of shit?
>muh luxury
But its terrible quality
>muh rwd
But its heavy, unreliable, and slow.

How can anyone defend any of this? Its pathetic as fuck.
Get over yourself and your delusions

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>>16613337
>What cars have bottomed out in value and can only go up?
I'm no economist, but I don't think that's how depreciation works

>>16613747
>I'm no economist
It's evident

>>16613747
>Being this retarded

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>>16613337
F150 Lightning. Prime time to pick up a first gen project or a clean second gen.

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I would have to say that just about every bmw between e30 and e39 has bottomed and won't ever be seeing the absolute ridiculously low prices they were selling for right after the financial crisis. M cars in particular, any e30, e34, e36 and e39 with larger engines or factory body kits. Clean low mile e30 and e36 especially with manuals are becoming very hard to find in Europe. When people figure out the e31 was the most Ferrari german car ever built and even the base models do 165 mph without a chip, at that point they will become unobtanium.

There are some real good candidates elsewhere. Mercedes, the SL's and the SEC with larger engines and luxury configurations will do well. Mustang GT's with manual transmissions or cabrios will also do well.

Rice is already cooking. Try finding a clean, rust free Skyline is already difficult. Wherever you are. The Kei cars like the Cappuccino will get wiped out once legal. Figaro is headed there now already too. Toyota, Mazda, Subaru all have cult followings, flagship sports cars with low miles and a stick will do well.

>>16613744
>ignoring literally everything posted before
Stay assravaged.
Your taste is so shit I bet you jerk off to granny scat porn.
if the e30 was a "pathetic car" it would have never been called "the most successful racing car" and it would have never ever skyrocketed in price.

>>16613813
>over rated
Thats all it is.
Like the 787b is considered one of the greatest because it won one race. It really wasnt a great car though.
Stop defending a hyped shitbox that got beat by fwd shitboxes moron

>>16613817
Except the E30 has facts and numbers to back up it's price - no other car has ever won as many road races.
Also the E30 M3 created a new category - compact sized luxury sports saloons - the formula other automakers have been trying to reproduce ever since.

>>16613750
>>16613770
>implying a piece of shit is going to suddenly appreciate after years of depreciation

>>16613813
Don't feed the troll. The market is talking, for a car with production totals somewhere around 3 million price appreciation has had to match massive demand to massive supply to see prices go up. It is the most iconic model of the late 80's early 90's. With that resto mod on ebay back in December topping 30g USD its pretty obvious where that market is headed. Other than the Corvette I can't think of really anything eventful Chevy did in the same era. Maybe the SS454.

>>16613855
But performance cars always do exactly that.

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Third Gen F-bodies. They used to be everywhere and were thought of as shitty mullet mobiles, but now they're sought after classics.

>>16613877
>but now they're sought after classics.
Not really. Even in yurop you can pick one up for a couple grand.

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http://jalopnik.com/why-the-audi-tt-is-the-next-great-future-classic-511987797

I'm sitting on a goldmine.

>>16613887
Send me a link, I'll snag one up

>>16613891
>jalopnik
Maximum lols

>>16613877
Solid example. Scarcity of clean examples is driving them up

>>16613392
nice meme retard

>>16613898
http://ww3.autoscout24.nl/classified/288246599?asrc=st|as
http://www.autowereld.nl/pontiac/firebird/u9-inruilmogelijk-21510504/details.html
http://www.autowereld.nl/pontiac/firebird/3-4-v6-t-bar-10966862/details.html
http://ww3.autoscout24.nl/classified/304546572?asrc=st|as
http://ww3.autoscout24.nl/classified/296440302?asrc=st|as
A bunch of V6 Firebirds and a couple V8 Camaros, between 2.5k and 5k eurobucks. Dutch sites.

>>16613932
Dang dude I wouldn't call 4,5k "a couple grand". Still a good price for Europe though.
And I don't really care for the 6cyls.

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Depending where you live but mr2's are slowly going up in value in this order
>turbo sw20
>N/A sw20
>super charged aw11
>zzw30 spyder
>N/A aw11

>>16613948
Yeah, I'll admit the Camaros seem to have gotten rarer and more expensive.
I'm surprised with the amount of Firebirds though.

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>>16613775
Fucking love performance trucks. speaking of which these were said to be future classics. you can probably add the V10 Rams too.

>>16613955
This. MR2's will become the obtainable dream when RX-7's get too expensive.

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>>16613972
Cyclones and typhoons are already going for premium, they're the next grand national

V10 ram is an interesting one

>>16614002
Those things have to be ridiculously front-heavy.

>>16614024
They are.

First Generation Dodge Diesel. I've seen clean examples going for decent $$$

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>>16613337

Pretty sure m3 E46 will start goint up soon, E39 m5 "Best sedan ever made" will probably also follow, albeit picking up slower since 5ers are always less popular.

Toyota mr2 second gen

Merc 190E, tho Im not 100% sure on them.

Regular E36 will become future E30, but will not achieve same heights I think.

Stancenation might as well be called BMW nation, almost every page is filled with BMW's.

>>16613337
first gen RX7s are going for absolutely nothing right now. you can get a garage kept model with like 50k on the clock for under five grand.

I think they have to bounce back: first RX7, first serious rotary sports car, basically the only iconic Mazda aside from the MX5

>>16614424
>Stancenation might as well be called BMW nation, almost every page is filled with BMW's.

BMW has always been the only car brand to ship with minimal wheel gap, they basically invented the look

>>16613646
>>16613610
>>16613577
>>16613416
The only "true" E30 M3 competitor considered is the Mercedes 190E, not some chink garbage.
Can't believe certain people on /o/ actually believe that some Toyota is even worth mentioning

>>16614477
>prove bmw was beat by a fwd economy car
>refuses to believe it
This is why everyone hates bmw fags

>>16613737
there's one sitting in my buddy's garage. A white S14 SE with factory 5 lugs. He's the second owner. I'm intensely jealous

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Here's my input. Pretty low production numbers, especially with a manual trans. I doubt you'll ever be able to grab one for less than $8k ever again.

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>>16613337
In past 4 years the value of e30 grew 2,5 times, you could buy one for 1000-2000 now its about 5000+, I think e36 would follow as well

Prices of Golfs MK1 and MK2 started growing too

>>16613492
Just buy all the ones you can find and hoard them.

>>16613891
>The first Audi TT is timeless. It looked amazing when it first debuted in the late 1990s, and it still looks amazing today.
How could someone be so wrong?

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A-bodies

>>16613631
Your "sources" don't say anything at all
Just fanboys jerking

Fairly sure the Mazda rx7 has more wins in imsa than shit box e30 does racing against touring car spec corolla and civics

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These are legal in the US in about 8 months. Once they are 25 year legal their price will sky rocket. It is already going up but soon there will be a huge boom.

>>16613833
How many races has it won then? Everything you post says the same thing but not a single number of races won :^)

>>16613337
what crack are you on, unfortunate things to say is that the crash of e36 prices is over. 3-4 years ago, you could pickup an e36 m3 for about $2-3k in good condition. Now, its moving towards 4-5k

>>16615365
You live in a lie

>>16613561
not an m3, retard

>>16615415
I live in california. Which is the equivalent to living in a lie.

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>>16615363
A lot of races.

>>16615456
And 99% of those were against shit box front wheel drive corolla civics and twingos lmao
What an accomplishment it is certainly the best race car ever because it had literally zero competition

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>>16615464
You are very very wrong.
It was constantly competeing with mechanically superior machines, yet still raped them all.

>>16615505
also this>>16614477

>>16615355
The RX7 has about 100 IMSA wins
The M3 has 14 times more victories than that
Very funny seeing "x car" fanboys always in denial, hard to accept the truth that you all drive inferior machines and that the "douche bag mobile" you hate so much is actually the best ever produced.

>>16615505
Mechanically superior machines Lmao, most of its life was racing against fwd ecoboxes

It didn't do shit in australia
Could only compete with the pigfat v8s when it was making near 400hp
Got wrecked by Moffatts live rear axle 1st Gen rx7 :^)

Kek at Bathurst in 83 the e30s engine shat itself and lost so hard the team was so distraught that they actually tried claiming other teams sabotaged them! Lmao!!!

>>16613720
For a car to go up in value, there needs to be a group of potential middle-aged buyers that wanted the car when it was new but were too young to afford it. This is true for the sport GTs of the era (supra, 300zx, 3000 gt), but I don't remember anyone in the 1990's truly obsessed with the SC300/400. It was just a car that your tax guy drove.

No fanboys = no value.

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>>16615558
>didn't do shit in australia
It won the Australian touring car championship in 1987
It was constantly competeing with much more powerful cars
>in 83
nice try, the E30 began racing in 87
Fuck this, getting tired of repeating myself and arguing with braindead tards

>>16615614
One atcc, that is less than the mazda rx7
Rx7>e30

>bbbut muh races in europe against fwd corolla!!!!
Lmaoo

>>16613775

>it would be a shame
>if i ejected my spark plugs

>>16615623
Races in Europe against much more powerful awd/rwd cars*
What did the RX7 achieve worldwide?
Has it ever competed in Europe, where it actually matters?
No?
RX7 discarded.

>>16615623
how obsessed are you about corollas? is that your only defense that a car was racing against fwd cars? please. bench race some more.

>>16615648
Imsa and 24h spa, much more big boy than touring spec econoboxes

What more powerful cars in europe? It races against fucking corolla Lmao

>>16615558
>didnt do shit in australia
Europe is the home and birthplace of touring car racing.
Who gives a shit about downunder?
Australia doesn't even have a well known racing history or anything.

>>16615649
No no stop mentioning That the bmw raced against fwd shitboxes!!!

>>16615665
T. Newfag wannabe who doesn't know anything about motorsports
Keep jerking to the e30 bevause you read some article on jalponik though

>>16615657
>IMSA
Lol the E30 was competing in Group A.
Cant get much more big boy than that
The E30 was routinely raping 460hp Sierras, Benz 190E's, Audi 300 Quattros, Skylines, Commodores etc.
Also
>RX7 100 wins
>E30 1400+ wins
stay assblasted

>>16615277
Shit that's a nice looking car and I'm dissapointed in myself for not knowing about it sooner

>>16615716
>100 wins in imsa
>vs
>irrelevant "wins" in sprint races against touring spec econoboxes
Lmaooo, but you beat some corolla good for you

wtcc is extremely competitive in terms of engineering. Winning or losing doesn't mean the roast variant is awesome either.

Road car wise I'd rather drive almost any BMW from any generation with a manual trans over a Chevy Cruze or a Corolla. Come on now.

BMW are road car specialists. They're not without fault but have a lot of perks.

>>16615675
Jalopnik is a liberal propaganda shithole.

You have obviously never drove an e30 or any BMW for that matter. e30s and e36s are the best drivers cars to be had for the price. I literally can't stop buying these fucking cars.

>>16615732
>Group A
>WTCC
>d-don't count!
Lmao so assravaged

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mark my fuckin words, e39 m5s are going to be the next e30 m3s in terms of value

>mfw pic related is mine

>delusional bmw fanboys still crying because their jalponik meme mobile could only compete against fucking front wheel drive corollas
>and still got beat by corolla
L
M
A
O

>>16615796
still butthurt that your favourite "JDM legends" were actually nothing noteworthy in comparison to the M3

>>16615812
No FWD vehicles in Group A btw.

Non M's are fucked to be some teens drift missile

wrecked cars, they scrap for more
than they sell for

>>16613473
>Muh "Fried egg headlights
>Muh watercooled
>Muh IMS bearing

It's never going up anon, but that's a good thing.

>>16616035
IMS is an easy fix, water cooled is good, but yeah the headlights suck

I think you're right though, the 996 will never be a collector's car. Good entry Porsche though

>>16613362
DELET

>>16616793
what this anon said

my dad has a 996, and im glad they will never be collectors - i love that car so much. I want a 996 carrera S or a targa sooo badly. people dont realize how much fucking car they get buying one of those, and the fact that theyre under 20k is absolutely insane to me.

Guys please stop. Leave the weeb alone with his toyocuck.
His ass can't take anymore and my sides are passing pluto.

>>16613891
Looks like the light aspergers brother of the full-on autism audi a2 (my dd, so i'm allowed to shittalk it)

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ITT: people not knowing about the law of the greatest idiot.

these cars will keep selling untill there are no more idiots to buy them. It's a massive bubble investment.

>>16613492
they still cost 400-500€ here

>>16613955

I see value in a NA sw20 but if you think its worth shit youre delusional. Thinking a zzw30 is less than any aw11 or na sw20 is crazy too. A stock w30 sits with the sw20 turbo at the top and a stock hardtop aw11 is the most fun.

>>16613700
>tfw last night I used one of these to pull an engine out of a 300ZX

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i have had 3 of pic related..
sold my last one (a very clean, late model before they brought out the mk3) for £500
lucky to find one for under £5000 now

wish i had some land to keep cars on...

>>16613402
I don't buy into this >>16613398 know enough about rotary engine. A well sorted 13B-DEI or 13B-REW with a single turbo, electronic boost, tune, etc is a pretty reliable car as long as you let it warm up, cool down, etc.

But the S50B32 in an E36 M3 is a much more reliability engine. S52B32 in the USDM E36 M3.... not so much.

>>16615327
I think I'd get too attached to them and not profit because I couldn't bring myself to sell my new friends. Need to capitalize on less cute cars.

>>16618475
>live in eastern yurop
>look for golf 2 gti on ads
>they're all around 10000 euros and most of them have shitty tasteless wheels and paint jobs
>TEN THOUSAND EUROS
found an integra type r for 6k eur
vw fags are fucking deluded

>>16615277
I had to chance to buy a stock clean manual one.

But then I drove it. Holy shit, they are totally overrated.

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>>16613337
Any sub-10k E36 is a beat up pos
Although there are some low mileage (40-80k) examples in great shape going for 20-30k

>>16613737

It's pretty sad that you can straight up import an s13 silvia for less than what a clean 240 goes for these days.

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>>16615768
While I do think that the E39 M5 is an awesome car, it's still overshadowed by the E46 M3 in terms of reputation and status.

The E46 M3 is seen by some as the last proper M3 and the proper versions (coupés with non-SMG manual) are already hard to find, at least where I live.

>>16619025

Nigger, are you kidding me? The E39 is seeing as one of the greatest cars ever made.

I don't remember hearing that about the E46.

>>16619025
guy youre responding to here.

I disagree that the e46 m3 "overshadows" the e39 m5. While the e46 m3 is an awesome car, i think the main thing thats going to keep it less valuable than the m5 is sheer production numbers. they imported a little under 10,000 e39 M5s, and over 26,000 M3s. Yeah e46 m3s might be rare, but e39 m5s are literally 2.5x more rare.

nonetheless, both are definitely collectibles and fucking awesome cars, and both of their values are only going up at this point

Isnt s2000 going up?
Why are they so fucking expensive anyway?
A almost new one costs more than it originally was sold at

>>16619025
>>16619126
also, that 26,000 number is just COUPES. they imported an additional 17,000 m3 verts. so total over 40k e46 m3s in the US, compared to 10,000 e39 m5s

>>16619129
Because they are great cars?

>>16613337
Foxbody mustang

Also nice numbers and a complimentary bump

>>16614477
>chink
toyota is japanese not chinese you mong

>>16618696
I never said you had to sell them.

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>25k new

>selling on ebay for £950 now

kek remember the whole rotary meme

>>16620470
Do these things even into torque?

>>16619137
How many of those coupes were "no thanks" SMG equipped though? We are probably getting close to 1:1 with the M5 (all manual).