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Call someone explain to me why this was a good idea?

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Call someone explain to me why this was a good idea?
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It could've been a good idea if it hadn't been for the usual short sighted American thinking and shoddy workmanship.

Oh boy, who could've known that water may penetrate an underground concrete structure in the course of half a century?
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what are we looking at here?
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>>16609933
Not even concrete
Nigga just put it in a hole in the ground.
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>>16609997
It's also the courthouse lawn

50 years of sprinklers
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>>16609989
Apparently that car belonged to Elvis Presley.
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>>16609997
The walls are actually concrete though. Still a dumb fucking idea.
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>>16609989
your mom's colonoscopy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1_jEe7UBc

yay...
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>>16609921
The best part was the person who won it had been dead for years and his sisters did not want it. so a guy who sells a "rust removal" snake oil product bought it like he was going to use his snake oil on it to repair it, years latter he said it didn't work.
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They knew it was leaking but decided to honor the time capsule anyway.
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>>16610059
It didn't work because there isn't a molecule of non-rust
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>>16610053
Jesus man
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>>16610059

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNPx8jKX1fA
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>>16610067
any one who has used that shit knows it only works on surface rust and you might as well use a wire wheel
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>>16609921
And nothing of value was lost
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>>16610086
The fact that it hasn't dissolved after being soaking in muddy water for 50 years is a testament to super Chrysler construction.
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>>16610080
>jackstands on casters
What could possibly go wrong?
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>>16610091
cars usually dont crumble from a little water

hell this one was thrown in a lake and sat there for 75 years and its from the 1920s
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>>16610129
Yes because they were built good back then
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>>16609989
it's Miss Belvedere.
A town back in 1957 had a contest. Contestents would guess what the population of their town would be in 2007. The entries and a (then new) 1957 Plymouth Belvedere were then sealed in a vault and buried underground.
That pic is when they opened the vault in 2007.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Belvedere
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lol
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>>16610148
How much did these things cost back in the day? They were used as cop cars so i don't think they were that grand.
Thats just so incredible, setting up a lame event that pays off seven years after the turn of the century just for a shitbox for your kids. I couldnt even imagine where the auto industry is going to be in 50 years, fuck.
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>>16610148
>A large number of items were placed inside the trunk and glove box of the Miss Belvedere. A partial list of items included a five-gallon container of gasoline, a case of motor oil, a case of Schlitz beer, an unpaid parking ticket, a bottle of tranquilizers and items that were considered typical contents of a women's purse.
What the fuck. This entire thing is so fucking dumb it's unreal.
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>>16610947
>Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff
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>>16610882
>How much did these things cost back in the day?

according to my book

>Belvedere 2-Door Sport Coupe Hardtop, 6-p. P30-3 $2,349

thats base no options of course
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>>16611021
According to the westegg inflation calculator, that's $20340.03 today.
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>>16611091
yeah its not complete shitbox tier for the time a mid range car
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>>16611134
>base Plymouth
>not a shitbox
It would have had a flathead six and a three speed. No power brakes or steering. It would have been pretty shitty by even 1957 standards
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This is what it would have looked new. Tulsa also entombed a Plymouth Prowler in 1998. Although they did it above ground
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>>16609921
The whole Tulsa time capsule thing made me kinda mad. I found it interesting, though when they found that 1984 Iroc Z in some random trailer untouched. Pretty much an accidental time capsule.
https://youtu.be/qCK7N2SgJjE
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let's get to the real question:
what car would /o/ choose to (properly) time capsulate for 50 years?
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>>16611174
its not really

its priced around the same as a Bel Air and Fairlane 500 and was in a similar vain

by time you added a V8 and those options it would be $2,635


the Plaza was the shitbox which started at under $2,000 and would be with the Custom and 150
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>>16611011
Nice one.
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>>16611214
Porsche 911R
Porsche Cayman GT4
Mazda Miata
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>>16611214
nothing modern would withstand 50 years anyway you did it
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>>16611329
Explain with concrete evidence and proper explanation. Because objectively cars are nicer these days - in build and features. People replace them due to wanting something flashier or whatever.

As far as I know the only issue would be gaskets and what not which are designed with the engine being run in mind.

If museums can preserve pieces of art created a thousand years ago I'm sure car manufactured with the knowledge of today could be locked away for 50 years just fine, with minimal if any work needed upon retrieval.
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>>16611329
Actually, modern metal alloys, paint and rust prevention mean the shitboxes of today will physically last longer than anything produced back then.
The idea that "old cars were built better" is a boomer meme and another example of the older generation's unwillingness to learn or understand new things. The misconception that new cars aren't as tough comes from a complete misunderstanding of vehicle safety or physics. People who believe things like this also tend to believe that seatbelts and airbags are inherently dangerous despite overwhelming scientific and practical proof.
Wouldn't be surprised if they thought the world was flat and all speed limits are 55mph too.
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>>16611219
Yeah but any of the base model low priced big 3 in the 50s regardless of trim level would have had the same mechanicals. My point is that most people wouldn't have ordered a stripped out Belvedere or Fairlane 500. They would have taken the step down to the regular Fairlane and gotten the options they wanted. I'm well aware of the pricing of 50s American cars
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>>16611371
>>16611401
That Belvedere was partially subemerged in 4ft of water for 50 years. Anything would have deteriorated after that long.
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>>16611401
I cannot believe that there are people who actually believe that in a crash you're better off in something made in the 60s than any modern shitbox. How can one not understand crumple zones?
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>>16611459
I have a friend who legitimately believes every car made before 1980 was 'made out of titanium'
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>>16611174
>It would have had a flathead six
No, Slant Six had finally phased the flathead out by this time.
Belvedere was one of the higher priced Plymouths.

>three speed
Funny because they weren't offered with 3 speed manuals, only 3 speed autos.
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>>16611433
yeah and my point is that the Belvedere wasnt a shitbox (unless you bought a stripper one for whatever reason I guess)
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>>16611459
>I cannot believe that there are people who actually believe that in a crash you're better off in something made in the 60s than any modern shitbox. How can one not understand crumple zones?
While most are death traps for the occupants the car will probably come out with extremely minor damage against modern traffic.
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>>16611483
The slant six wasn't even produced until 1959. There was a 2 speed auto available that year I believe
>>16611484
Yeah but someone earlier in the thread introduced the base price. I acknowledge the fact that most Belvederes would have not been strippers.
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>>16611483
>No, Slant Six had finally phased the flathead out by this time.

nope

base engine for a 1957 Belvedere was a 230 flathead 6 and a 3 speed

>>16611514
yeah that was me like I said I have a book with this shit in it

and yeah they had 2 speed and 3 speed autos
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>>16611514
>The slant six wasn't even produced until 1959.
My bad
Anyway Coronet>Fury

>>16611536
>a 3 speed
Base was a 2 speed auto.
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>>16611536
Is it a Plymouth specific book? Or is it something more general?
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>>16611545
>Base was a 2 speed auto.

even wikipedia says otherwise


> A manual transmission was standard with the push-button two-speed PowerFlite optional and the push-button three-speed TorqueFlite automatic also optional on V8 cars.

>>16611546
its a book on American cars theres 2 of them 1946-1959 and 1960-1972

has prices shipping weight some options and dimensions on most cars I think
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>>16611557
>even wikipedia says otherwise
Look to the right of that sentence,
snip where it shows a manual transmission was offered.
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>>16611572
where it says auto were options?
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>>16611577
I have yet to see any 1957 belvedere with a manual.
Unless there's a citation, i won't believe it.
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S = standard
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>>16611591
Oh, so it's the Fury packages that got 3 speed manuals.
Sorry you didn't mention it.
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>>16611598
Can you not read?
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>>16611601
I don't trust your book since every other source i see makes no mention of a manual tranmission available in 3rd gen Belvederes.
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>>16611598
are you pretending to be stupid

Savoy, Belvedere, and Suburbans as coming standard with a flathead 6 and 3 speed

the Fury came standard with the Power Pak and 3 speed
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>>16611607
so your contradicting Wikipedia article is more valuable than researched publications

Allpar mentions the manual
Hagerty mentions the manual
Rockauto has it on their site that it exists
the Service manual has it

damn dude what more do you want admit your wrong and carry on
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>>16611644
fuck you man, I know im right and thats all that matters.

Your probably some transgendered freak.
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>>16611644
>damn dude what more do you want
I've been trying to get you into a position where i can shout DEEZ NUTZ and it would make sense but you're too even-tempered for it to happen.
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>>16611650
Im just autistically stubborn famalam

>>16611651
unless Im shitposting I remain cool
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>>16611651
i kekd
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>>16610129
1 owner classic car for sale! Light Surface Rust!!! Great for project car!
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>>16611708
oblig ran when parked
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>>16611401
its hilarious when you read this post and then read about modern Mazdas having rust repairs before they roll off the dealer lot.

I picture some fat neckbeard typing this all out then discovering his brand new lease (insert your least fave brand here) economy car has to be towed to the shop for the third time to replace a sensor.
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>>16611371
museums don't lock paintings away for preservation, they handle, clean, inspect and repair them continuously.

putting a complex piece of machinery away and not touching/using it is a death sentence.
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>>16611708
No lowballers or tire kickers. I'm not in a hurry to sell. I know what I got.
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>>16610053
the actual cupholders in a berlingo aren't much better, I don't know what the frogs were thinking
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>>16610129
There's over 1000 trucks sunk in the lake here during ww2, and a few of them have been fished out and restored to working condition using original frames and engine blocks.
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>>16611233
That's actually pretty smart, if the capsule got flooded, the car would float
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>>16611818
>cherrypicking examples

I bet you couldn't go outside and find an American car without any rust on it.
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>>16611914
You mean like how rotten eggs float so you know what eggs not to take?
Pretty smart.
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>>16612004
It was a boat reference but that works too
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>>16611590
There were 3 speed manual 3 on the tree cars. One of the surviving stunt cars from the 1983 movie "Christine" was a 3 speed manual Belvedere made to look like a Fury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYDfCYt-oLA
There were manuals.
Deal with it.
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>>16611906
That's some hardcore paint
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>>16612774
That one apparently sunk into some loose peat at the bottom that preserved it. Usually they raise them in significantly worse condition.
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>>16612823

>"When trucks sank in shallow waters, the headlights continued to glow faintly under the ice for a long time. The drivers nicknamed those "fireflies".
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>>16609921
>>16610148

> In line with the Cold War realities of late 1950s North America, the concrete enclosure was advertised as having been built to withstand a nuclear attack.[6] The enclosure, however, was not airtight and allowed water to leak in, which caused significant damage to the vehicle.

toppest kek

>American engineering
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>>16610053
>>16611873

Europeans prefer small PET bottles that you can close again instead of cans or paper cups, that's what these holders are meant for.

Nevertheless it's still a fucking stupid idea to make them horizontal like that.
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>>16612905
Americans are so retarded, they put glass jugs of gasoline in the trunk of that thing, thinking gas has a shelf life of 50 years and would be obsolete in 2007.
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Jeez man that thing must stink


Fifty years of sitting water? Fuck lol
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>>16612967
Old leaded gas had a really long shelf life. It's only the new crap that goes flat in a year while eating your car from the inside.
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>ran last time it was parked
>no tire kickers
>I know what I got
>priced with any issues in mine
>30million, no low ballers
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But what does it look like out of the bin and wrapping?
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>>16613242
after someone spent $20,000 (twenty thousand united states dollars)
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>>16613264
thank you for posting this. really wanted to know what it looked like now. pretty BA imo.

someone needs to flat clearcoat the car and put it running/driving again with some fresh white letter or white wall tires
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