Brand New Toyota 86... Buy It?

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>>16593225

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>>16593225
>Auto but with paddle shifters....

>>16593225
I can't even drive manual and I implore you to fall for the manual meme.

>>16593225
>>16593228
Huge mistake for various reasons. But you don't care about that cause this is either a troll thread to get people angry or you're the sort of person that asks for opinions knowing you'll ignore them and do what you want anyway.

>>16593225
I personally wouldnt. For $30k you can get a better overall vehicle. But if you really like the car, i say go for it. I have driven them before and they're pretty fun to drive. Not fast but "snappy" as people say

>>16593233
Ftfy
I don't want to learn manual

Do not buy new, buy used with as few miles as you can find. Picked up a 12k mile 2014 model for 18k and that leaves cash to spare and is closer to what it's really worth so I'm happy

>>16593232

Whats wrong with paddle shifters? Taking it for a test drive again tomorrow.

>>16593233

Manual is overrated.

>>16593235

Not a troll thread I just kind of fell in love with it.

>>16593241

It was so much fun to drive im testing it again tomorrow before I decide lol

>>16593260
If i was to go used it would have to be certified pre owned and the best one is red with 20k miles for $19k.

I hate red.

>paddle shifters
You a fag or something?

>>16593296

Rich fag yeah

>30k to go slower than a miata

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>>16593299
>30k
>Rich

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jesus fuck, that kike nose on the front is hideous.

the jews are even ruining our sports cars.

go get a late model frs or a new brz, do you really want pic related on the front of your new car?

>>16593225
>buying new
>buying a sports car to be engaged in the driving experience but an auto to be less engaged in the driving experience
>paying 30k cash
This is definitely a troll. No one is stupid enough to buy a toyobaru over a C5, C5 Z06 or Cayman S, or mustang gt 2015+

>>16593265
The auto is full second slower on the 0-60. Like 7 something seconds. It's not a true DCT. I'd recommend at least test driving the manual.

>>16593313

>$5 million dollar trust fund
>$500k in stock holdings
>21 Years Old

I'm the richest kid I know of in my town.

Bought my mom a Porsche Cayman when she turned 45 for her birthday.

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>>16593339
whatever dude my dad works for nintendo lmao

I learned manual on my own, don't be a pussy. You are buying the wrong car if you want an automatic, you will have regret in a few months knowing this car would be fun with a manual rather than something to commute with

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>>16593265
>What's wrong with paddle shifters?

You're buying this car because you want a fun rwd driver, right? Listen, I own a shitbox without power steering or abs, and with a stick and a steel cable controlling the throttle. You literally can't get more connected to the road and car than that. I know I eventually have to get a new car and I hate the fact that it'll have power steering and abs, because every car does nowadays. Now the car you're about to buy already has every electronic nanny you can image, if you decide to buy it with an automatic transmission and paddles, you might as well get a boring econobox.

But I guess there's a price to pay if you buy a brand new car and don't want to drive around on someone else's farts in a second hand car. It's a shame though, you'll have more fun in that fart chamber than you think. But if you like new car smell, go for it dude.

Pic unrelated.

>>16593346

How many people you know can just pull over $30k out of the bank on a new car and not have any financial issues?

>>16593265
Im not an manual fag, i prefer it but in some cars it does not make sense. The 86 whoever is a car much better suited too manual. You even get a little more power from the factory. The auto in these cars are slish boxes. In this case in particular, you would be completly retarded to get an auto 86. But its your money, you are retarded anyway from buying a 86 and that price anyway so go figure.

>>16593357
with that much money you wouldn't be throwing it at boring 200hp shitboxes
welcome to an anonymous imageboard where nobody cares enjoy your stay

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>>16593365

Hurr durr heres one of my investment accounts faggot.

Its only a shitbox because you cant afford one lmao

In this thread all the anon's know you are definitely a faggot for buyibg this in auto dct.
>OP knows he's a faggot anyways and still buys.

>>16593357
If you were actually rich you would buy something better than an 86. But i guess money doesn't buy smarts. I doubt you know much about cars anyway and only want the 86 because its a generic coool kid car.

>>16593368
bro ive got like twice as many dollars as you? enjoy ur slow shitbox lmao

What the actual fuck is the point of buying an automatic sports car?

>>16593368
If you want a car that's not manual try finding a used (or new if you want) Lexus rc-f they have a better resale value (if you get bored of it) and if you get it used it's very unlikely that someone thrashed it around mainly because they are kinda pricey to maintain

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>>16593249
Can you fix this for me too?

>>16593398
you can still drive manual dude
get a car in manual and youll have it down by the time you drive it home
go break a leg pal

>>16593225
>no 0% financing
I didn't jew my way to a 820 credit score to be fucked like this by Subaru.

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>>16593404
"go break a leg pal"

FUCK

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>>16593265
>>16593249
>>16593265

This is how the car looks in the manual version, notice the sexy engine? most cars have a crappy plastic cover these days.

>>16593225

I would buy one used. I believe you could find one with around 30K miles for 15-16K leaving some room for modifications if you so desire. A new car is nice, but do what you please with your money. Most of this board rides the bus and is cynical about nearly everything but 20yr'old shitboxes.

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>>16593430
This is the same 2017 car in the automatic version, notice how it doesn't look as good as the manual

Listen kid, I am not a manual fanatic, but in these type of cars you buy a fucking STANDARD TRANSMISSION.

>>16593437
Why mod an autotragic pile of shit

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>>16593225
>Auto but with paddle shifters....

>>16593430
>>16593440
>Oh man I painted my ka's valve cover red that's gotta be 15hp right there

>>16593483
>implying rosso corsa paint doesn't give you extra 59hp.

torque converter autos suck

>>16593430
This looks so easy and simple to work on, literally no bullshit.

Is the opposite of my BMW.

>>16593368
Anybody on here actually impressed by that?

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>>16593225
just fucking kill yourself my man

you'll never fit in with any real car guys with an automatic 86

>>16593225
>Auto
NO.

>>16593548
>thread

>>16593225
>Auto
Like painting a dirty sanchez on the Mona Lisa.

For $30k shouldn't it have the brembo brakes and some other stuff? Or is that BRZ only? Just seems steep.

>>16593225
>auto
>paddle
N O
K Y S
B U Y A F U C K I N G C I V I C 3 K

>>16593331
>German/American cars
>good

>>16593225
> Auto but with paddle shifters
Because that makes a difference. Buy it so you can be laughed at by anyone who passes by and sees the faggot flaps.

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>>16593225

>auto

>>16593269
Get red you won't regret it. Gray is boring as fuck. So much better getting a fun color.

You got enough to money to waste. Go for it. Once you get blown away by a fucking minivan from a stop light you realize how retarded you are and throw the thing away.

Honestly, for 30k, the 86 a shit.

>>16593368
Dude the 86 is dumb as fug
Don't buy it.
Go buy a real car that isn't an auto 86

>>16593368
>putting over 250k in one account

Enjoy getting raped when the fdic doesn't cover you

>>16593512
Let's see you change the spark plugs.

>>16593225
do you really want to buy a car from someone who parks like an asshole

>>16593225
you have access to an unbelievable range of cars withing the realm of 30k

examples:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ctd/5982150508.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ctd/5957121137.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ctd/5976688054.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ctd/5953773858.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/5982176529.html

http://southbend.craigslist.org/cto/5909914119.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ctd/5983835041.html

etc.

>>16593225
I'm not gonna tell you what to do with your money but the "facelift" reminds me of that girl in my grade school art class who was really into anime and always autistically screeched "YAAAAAA" and would close her eyes to make them look chinky.
Do with this info what you wish

>>16593346
Kekd hard at this

>>16593656
Used vs new. Young virgin vs old whore.

>>16593665
the only reason anyone would buy a new car is if money is truly no object, and if they're planning to not give a fuck about it at all. unless you're clueless as to how to hold a wrench, used is always the better decision.

>>16593339
How does it feel knowing you will throw away your dad's hard earned money?

>>16593656
>7849 years old
>2534 previous owners
>73557243 miles
>1830273 farts in the driver's seat alone.
No thanks.

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>>16593674
>disdain for used commoner trash
enjoy overpaying

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>>16593368
boasting with money you did not make.
Your parents raised you wrong, charles

>>16593689
I'm always buying my cars 2 years old with under 20k miles for around half the new price. Buying something old and run into the ground is a stupid as buying brand new.

>>16593708
which is precisely why you do a thorough mechanical and visual inspection of any car before you buy it, regardless of its age/mileage, you mong

>>16593421
>>16593404
I tried M8. Feet are too big, I can't depress the clutch all the way because no ankles. I can drive memeual on very particular cars but it's harder when you have no feeling or joints. It's like trying to drive with a clown shoes tied to a broomstick that's strapped to your thigh.

>>16593669
How can I remove previous owner farts from my interior with a wrench?

>>16593720
Same way you remove the 20 peoples farts that farted in a new car before you bought it

>>16593716
Pardon the woman argument, but you just don't get it.

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>>16593720
>implying the final assembly tech doesn't fart in the car when it's rolled off the line
>implying the dealership employees don't fart in the car

you need to calm those neuroses

>>16593430
TOYOTA TESTAROSSA

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>>16593728
no, i get it. you need a status symbol because owning an older car is passé.

>>16593225
>Auto but with paddle shifters
>Paddle shifters

Nope.

>>16593368
That's not $500,000, fag. Way to lie on an anonymous message board.

>>16593741
I don't need to prove to myself that I can keep a piece of shit car on the road with nothing but a wrench, duct tape, WD40 and my sheer force of will. My friend bought a 30 year old car because he thought it was cool, it didn't have a single problem when he bought it. Guess who drives when we pick up parts for it.

C6 corvette for 30k

>>16593440
>>16593430
I'm like 90% sure that the steel intake manifold was introduced on the 2016 model year. My meme machine is a 2014 in MT and has the plastic version.

>>16593771
>"my friend is full-blown retarded so he drives an old car with no reliable backup"
can either of you into preventative maintenance or did you meet through Mensa?

>>16593225
Just get a camry. The experience of driving it would be the same. They're both auto and boring to drive and nobody will look twice at you're little grey Toyota.


If you "can't" drive a manual get a Lexus. Then at least people will think you have braincells in that empty head of yours

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>>16593225
>ask /o/ for advice
>/o/ gives advice
>disregard advice
>shit talk /o/ and flaunt imaginary money
>"why cant i find real friends or happiness?"

>>16593225
the front bumper is making the same face i made when i first saw the new front bumper design......EW

>>16593829
this guy has never driven one

the auto is much more fun than any FWD car

it will drift also, its not for racing other people

its for skids and fun

its definitly a car with soul

its a car that if you are a non car person it will make you into a car person just through joy of ownership

>>16593858
This is the dumbest shit I've heard, it won't drift. It can slide around a corner like any other RWD car

>it's another americans moan about manual transmission thread
lol

>>16593875
Yes, I know it's embarrassing plenty of lazy pussies that don't want to enjoy cars. Really makes you think why they are on Cambodian auto enthusiast board with little interest in cars

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>>16593858
i test drove the auto 86 five days ago it it was the least fun ive had driving in a while

the steering felt really good

but if you are going to buy a car THAT IS MADE TO BE FUN the only reason to get auto is if you are physically incapable of using a clutch.

like this badass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWX4y_870c

>>16593864
i bet you dont own one and havent driven the maunual or auto

ive owned both

both drift in the summer, winter, wet, and dry

both cars are really fun to own and use on a day to day basis

stop bullshitting
you really have no clue

>>16593880
I TEST DROVE IT

IT WAS THE LEAST FUN IVE HAD


how long was your test drive??????

ive owned the auto for 3 years

and the manual for around 3

you dont even own one yet here you sit acting like you have any idea

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>>16593883
Brz was my first manual, I was able to learn on my own. Test drove auto for shits and giggles and it was horrible. Sad you went through and got an automatic, are you the amputee above because "hurr Durr nobody to teach me" is no excuse

>>16593232
It is the best combination. Fun of manual with the economy and modernness of computerized auto.

>>16593225
Glancing at the thumbnail, I couldve sworn that this was a shitpost with a Tesla. I've been dormant on the /o/ scene for a while, when did they re-design the GT86? It looks nice

>>16593898
>Brz was my first manual, I was able to learn on my own

This. Had no practical experience driving a manual, but understood the concepts. Test drove a auto to see if I liked the car, bought one and learned on the way home. Took me like 5 minutes to get it off the lot

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>>16593887
generally driving a car is a good way to get an idea of how it is.

it was ~20min.

im comparing to my Suzuki X90s and Fieros. Those are fucking riots, especially compared to this auto 86.

i really went into it wanting to like it. i wasnt trying to be a shitlord

>>16593357
Most people over the age of 25 should be able to.

It is important that you have things like an 9 month emergency fund, 20% per paycheck into a retirment fund, and are setting aside fun money for vacations and hobbies in your early 20s.

>>16593225
ima say nah

>>16593634
Looks like a merlin lynch investment account. That wouldn't be fdic insured regardless.

>>16593339
>Bought my mom a Porsche Cayman when she turned 45 for her birthday.
So you bought her a car with money your parents gave you. Congratulations.

>>16593355
>tfw my old shitbox (that I'm replacing very soon, within a week hopefully) has powersteering but it only works some of the time so you get horrible feedback AND it still takes effort to turn the wheel

>>16593339
>Has enough money to buy any car
>Buys automatic GT86
>buy a bus pass, you don't deserve the privileges of driving, or posting here.

>>16593979
maybe he bought the car with capital gains from good stock trades made in the last few months

or not

>>16593670

My grandfathers not my dads. Hes dead now so who gives a fuck?

>>16594233

Dividens and profits made from trades in Tesla. Got lucky with Tesla put a bit in when it was in the $50 range.

>>16593600
Red is ugly and the most common color. There are way more red cars on the road than black, white, or gray.

>>16593523
I am. I'm poor.

no because the auto variant will drop money faster than you can think because in 5-10 years all the enthusiasts who want to pick one up don't want an autofaggot and would rather a manual.

not like your going to listen because like everyone who asks for purchasing advice your just going to continue shilling for it because you've already made up your mind.

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>>16593332
Tacking on, the gear ratios make this so
It's objectively slower
I learned on my frs

>>16593225
>>16593228
I don't think there's an uglier car, so you better have the budget for a new aftermarket front bumper nad matching paint.

Meanwhile, the new MX-5 is fucking gorgeous inside and out. The front could be slightly better on it compared to the stunning rear and sides, but at least it's not ugly like the new FR-S.

>>16593339
you bought your mom a car with your parents money lmao such a gentleman #raisedright

>>16593225
I recommend a manual transmission simply because they're loads more fun, but if you want auto then I probably can't change your mind. Either way, enjoy the shit out of it if you buy it.

>not financing
You're better off investing the cash and financing instead of tying up 30k in a car
>auto
If it was a Porsche pdk or something I'd say have at it but just get the manual

>>16593225
I can't believe how expensive that is.

When I was looking at cars, the Mazda dealer offered me a brand new RX-8 for $22,500, which is a much better car so long as it's maintained, outside of the fuel economy.

Where does Toyota get off trying to sell the FR-S for as much as a fully equipped CX-5?
You can get a 2 year old Porsche Cayman for just about $12,500 more.

>>16595384
>you can get a used caymen for only 42% more
As it 12 thousand bucks just magically appeared in OP's bank account
The brz is too expensive tho

>>16593225

I wouldn't buy it unless you really want it. The current MX5 is much better looking and the Fiat 124 is nice too with the turbo. I bought a 15' BRZ and i love it but i only appreciate it because i already own faster cars, even though they are a bit more heavier. The slower tossible brz is great for someone like me who want to downgrade in power without sacrificing its fun factor. So you might be disappointed in the premium for something like this if it the experience isn't something your looking for or whats important to you.

>>16593225
Get manual or don't get it. The Auto is so much worse, they didn't even bother giving the 2017 the lol5/5 hp/torque upgrade to the auto version

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I think that's totally fine OP, just negotiate the price as low as possible.

Don't listen to these immature dumbasses. The autotragifail 86 was reviewed recently on Youtube (can't remember vid) but guy gave it a great review compared to the manuelle.

Autotragifail FTW. Srsly grow up, nobody cares about your waste of energy jerking off your automotive dildo. It's simply not what 99% of the world population wants or needs. Ppl just want to go from A to B, a sporty ride is fun along the way, but we're not pretending to be Fast and Furious characters.

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>>16593225
>buying an auto 86
Why would you do this?

>>16593331
>buying new
>BUYING PRE-FARTED

>>16595455
>this
i already own to other older v8 coupes. they are way more fun in the straights, but at their age, mpgs, and reliability they are strictly weekend warrior/nice weather cars. i dd my frs and its a perfect comprise of practicality and fun

Get a fucking v6 camry instead. I'm not even joking

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>>16595680
YEHH BUDDY

Have fun getting your fuckin doors blown off by a 2002 Honda Accord at a stop light.

>flappy shifter pedals

You don't want to compromise your right hand with shifting a stick so you can go home and give your faggot boyfriend a smooth handjob

>>16593225
For god sake don't get the auto. The car is already slow as a manual but the auto is fucking dangerous to drive on the road. You will have trouble merging on the highway.

>>16593265
>manual is overrated

t.guy who has never driven manual, and never will because he is a lazy fuck.

>>16593417
0% on anything that's not a failure.

>>16596275
>right hand
Being this cucked by the French army.

30k to go slower than a $3k maxima. I say go for it best performance bargain.

>>16593981
Just try to disconnect it? If you car weighs less than 1000kg's it should be no problem daily driving it. Probably has a fuse somewhere.

>>16597136
not even worth the effort
it's a beat up old '01 Camry with almost 300k miles on it, getting a 2017 Civic hatchback tomorrow hopefully

>>16593225
>Auto but with paddle shifters....
no

i wouldn't buy it based on the fuck ugly grille alone

i'm too tall for this car

therefore i advise you not to do it.

>>16593225
why did they have to ruin the front like that?

I'd get it if it was a manual and at least 20k cheaper.

>>16599242
u mean if it was 10k new?

u guys have impossible standards

>>16593635
Wtf do you expect from a boxer engine?

>>16599280

well, it's /o/.

>>16599280
everything is overpriced when you're a NEET poorfag

>>16593225
Are you really gonna blow 30k on a fucking 4 cylinder n/a that produces like 200hp?

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Mfw OP pays 1k more for automatic option

>>16593241

Get a car that you won't hate paying for every month no matter how much it is or if people think it's worth it. That's all opinion. If you love it and can see yourself loving it throughout the loan get it.

>>16599280
Didn't realize they were still making these hunks of shit new. I thought Scion died and this car along with it.

>>16593398
Good luck Manual-sama
We believe in you

>>16593398
Woozie drove, and he was blind.

Is it true this car takes premium gas, and isn't even that fast?

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>>16599303
You're overpriced

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>>16593339
fucking lel

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>>16593398
That's definitely a good excuse to not drive a manual. However, the automatic in the 86 isn't very good, it slows the car down considerably compared to the manual. I would look to other cars for an auto.

Pic related, good dual clutch automatic.

I think the auto Mustang and Camaro are pretty alright too.

>>16593225
Lease it to be the latest hot /o/ meme.

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>>16600837
Looks like a turd.

>>16595491
>>16596209
>Owns a fucking Camry
>Thinks his opinion on sports cars matters
Though honestly for $30k you have such a wealth of good cars to look at that you'd have to be retarded to buy a GT86.

>>16593398
That british midget actor on top gear set a better lap time with a Pringles can taped to his clutch foot. Than some other people who actually could reach the pedals. I've see a 1 armed man drive stick. You can do it with a fake leg just need practice and the will to learn. If you stick till have your knee I bet it wouldn't be that hard

>>16600875
The newest Camry's have sporty handling. Go drive one.

>>16593430
Where are the other 2 cylinders?

>>16600875
The Camry is probably faster than the GT86

>>16593398
Hahahaaa oh man keep your money pal I'd rather have real legs that don't freak women out any day of my life

>>16600837
Matt Farah has stated many times that the auto in the gt86 was one of the better torque converter autos out there right now. What is the basis for your opinion that contradicts his?

>>16601772
the only woman thats freaked out is you, faggot.

but seriously bragging about money is totally lame, you are a bit of an elitist bitch faggot yourself OP

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>>16593225

Get one and join the worlds most prestigious ricers and bench racers OP.

>>16593265
Why the fuck do you ask if you should buy it then? Seems like you made up your mind.

>>16593339
>rich
>on 4chan asking for advice
>Toyota.

Sure.

>>16602743

autism

>>16602784
Shhhhh, it'll be over sooner since the Hyundai is faster.

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>>16593225
>Auto
If you want a slow 86 just buy a Miata

86 is compromised by the committee power plant.

The Fiata is significant because of the multi-air, not just the superficial... and Skyactiv wins engine design awards.

When carbon fiber miatas are running around in two years the FRS will be the worst looking toyota on the road.

>>16602762
You don't get/stay rich by spending all your money. A toyota is a sensible decision that many rich people make.

>>16602967
>The Fiata is significant because of the multi-air, not just the superficial...

you mean the 20 year old SOHC chrysler parts bin with economy turbo fiat has been using in EVERYTHING? its a garbage fucking engine.

the 86 has a gearbox from a WRX/S2000 at least. the fiata has a fucking NC transmission, and the ND an even smaller and weaker unit.

at the end of the day, the 86's engine produces more horses per cubic centimeter. and its potential isn't limited by a transmission which was purely put into the car as a cost/weight saving measure.

>>16593225
So did OP buy it?

Why not get a wrx? They're the same price and you can get it auto if that's your thing.

>>16603083

entry level WRX isn't any faster than a 86.

generally speaking I believe it will be a fair bit slower around a track.

>>16603059
>SOHC
It's DOHC but the intake cam is metaphysical. It exists only as a lobe smoothing profile in the ECU. The intake valves can be operated independently of the exhaust camshaft to which they are attached via pushrods.

>economy turbo
21 lbs of boost is not economy. At full throttle you can watch the fuel needle drop.

>garbage engine
With a Fiat 1.4, whether or not you get a 500 Abarth, 124, Renegade or Dart, you get forged crank and pistons and an oil separator, shit that Subaru won't even give you on their highest tier WRX STI.

>>16602801
Doesn't matter if it drives like shit.

>>16593225
Get an older one, it's essentially the same car

>>16593225
So what's up nigga, you waste your money on this shit yet or what?

>>16593225
DON'T

The car itself is great, but with auto it's ruined. So many people in the club here bought autos, regretted it and then sold them to buy manuals. Not only do you pay extra for the auto, but it ruins the fun and drops the resale value too.

>>16602634
Adds 1.7 seconds to the 0-60 time.

It's a good car, you'll be happy with your purchase.
Ask yourself if it is really worth 30k.

>>16603956

This. The GT86 and miata makes you really appreciate the clutch pedal when driven on the limit.