What do you think of the Alfa Romeo giulia? Its got a 500bhp

Name one parts number of that engine used by a Ferrari

Name one.

We'll wait.

It's tuned by Ferrari, but it's an alfa V6.

The Alfa Romeo nose isn't any better than the Edsel.

They both look terrible.

Quite a stretch to call it a Ferrari engine, it's not in any Ferrari and it's not assembled in Modena (I think they are assembled in the US but not sure)

>>16589732

Show me a more iconic front end.

>>16589744
Any BMW or Pontiac

>>16589724
It's a derived Ferrari F154 engine

FCA would be /o/'s favorite company by far, instantly, if they unfucked their reliability.

>>16589724
Same engine as the California T, 488 and GTC lusso except they removed two cylinders

>>16589854

So a Chevy Astro 4.3 comes stock with a Corvette engine?

>>16589724

The con rod bearings and hex bolts.

this thing is going to depreciate to less than $25k instantly because of the 5 figure repairs it's gonna need.

see
>e60 m5

>>16589867
If it was derived from the original then yes, same layout, same components, except they cast a 6 cylinder block

>>16589715
you mean fiat engine

>>16589748

BMW maybe, Pontiac went ugly instead of keeping it a split grill.

>>16589715
Originally I was going to save up for the next 3 years to buy a Cadillac because I really liked the last gen Cadillac aesthetics.

Now I know I'm going to save up for a 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti. It's sexy and beautiful. That vertical grille is so goddamn timeless.

>>16590046
Pontiac just became Lincoln. Look at the new Lincoln front. It also looks very similar to a BMW.

Gto knockoff no thanks

>>16589715
It's the best four door car.

>>16590871
What's a GTO?

>>16589715
I want one it's a four door family sedan godmachine it posted the same time as a gt350r which /o/ loves on the nurburgring I can take the family out for dinner and later make wrx vapelords/ricers salty

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I love alfas but I'm also a massive poorfag so any alfa of any year is unattainable

>>16589775
Agreed. They have great designs, but DOGSHIT construction.

On paper, looks great.
Time will if it's a giant pile of shit or if the Italians finally got their act together.

>>16589888
Then yes.
>TIL that I learned to drive in a Corvette inspired Chevy Venture

>>16591277
If you currently own a car in running condition with air conditioning, you can afford an Alfa Romeo Spyder.
It'll be a pile of shit, but it's an alfa
>satisfy your meme you /o/tist

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>>16589744

But what sort of strange quirks does it have?

>>16591877
Do you have a column on autotrader where I can read about these quirks?

>>16589739

All the engines are produced in Italy at FCA's production site in Termoli

>>16589724
Block, rods, heads. It's the exact same thing as used in the California T.

>>16589725
The Alfa (Busso/Arese) V6 has been dead for well over a decade now. The V6 in the Giulia is a Ferrari F154-derived unit (hence the 90 degree bank angle).

>>16592141
how block rods and head can be same as california t , if ferrari california t is V8 and alfa is V6 ?

>>16592148
Block and heads can be identical, just with a set of cilinders in the middle removed. Rods should bolt right in.

>>16589715
It is also the new Dino engine

>>16592153
>Block and heads can be identical, just with a set of cilinders in the middle removed.
>Identical
>Similar in every detail; exactly alike
The block and heads are not identical. They may have some similarities (ie, bore, stroke) but they are not identical. 6 is not the same as 8.

There is a strong possibility that the rods are the same however.

>>16592153
i think you have just fallen on good old meme called marketing , "ferrari made engine" sounds good but do you really want anything related ferrari really on car anyway ? not really since i would like my car last atleast 30 000 km before engine blowing up

>>16592297
nice memes anon

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Every Alfa Romeo should come with a foldable electric scooter in the trunk.

This way they can balance their reliability issues a bit.

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>>16589715
Pretty sure this offers more fun per buck.

>>16592315
issue is that electric scooter would prolly break down too, especially since alfa is infamous of electric problems

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>>16592330

>>16592330
They should outsource it to some korean or japanese company.

>>16592334
well better, but its better have 2 of those ,in case first one breaks too

>>16592297

Ferrari offers a 7-year warranty you stupid idiot.

Show me statistics! Ferrari isn't unreliable!

>>16592297
Actually Alfa officially says this engine was developed by them, in a joint venture with a Ferrari engineer. They don't say it's a Ferrari engine, reviewers say that.
Get your facts straigh, fag.

>>16592330
>>16592340

Are you retarded niggers aware of the fact that in 2017 electric parts and shit are outsourced by every maker?

They just buy the same parts as you get in a Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, etc..

Stop living in memes goddamned retards, you're ridiculous and disrespectful.

>>16589757
>>16589854
>>16589871
>>16592141

Idiots falling for automotive journalists bait.

>>16589854
((((ferrari)))) pentastar
http://www.autonews.com/article/20140908/OEM01/309089978/maseratis-secret:-chrysler-makes-its-engine-blocks

>>16592187
I can virtually guarantee that the construction, wall thickness, and such on the block is exactly like the V8. Also, combustion chamber, valvetrain - everything that makes the head function - will be identical in design, except for the scaling from 8 to 6.

>>16589715
So you are actually happy about the fact a manufacturer who makes sporty and exciting cars dies?

>>16592594

No.

They're not made on the same factory neither they use the same tooling.

I've been involved in the assembly of the production line and I can guarantee this. The Alfa V6 has no connection to the Ferrari engine other than some know-how.

>>16592461
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Giulia_(952)

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Nice fiat, I'm sure it wont break down.

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>>16589715
>auto only
It's shit

>>16589715
>fca
no thanks

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>>16593056
info on pic???

>>16593069
k faggot
it would destroy your shitbox

>>16589732
better than a Lexus, that's all that counts

>>16593069
Who told you that bullshit? I test drove a manuel 2 weeks ago.

>>16592327
It is a tasteless fatty ugly piece of shit though.

>>16589715
I'm already in love. Sorry Madeira, but I'm selling you in 3 years and getting Julia.

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>>16593141
delet

>>16589887
>I know nothing about the car industry but love to meme around

>>16593363
>Generic soap bar

At least Lexus has it's own identity.

>>16589715
Looks like shit anyway.

>>16593491
What country are you in? Last I heard burgers were only getting slushboxes.

>>16593539

this tbqh femme. what's the point of buying an italian car if it just looks like an m3 with a different nose?

>>16593524
Is that some disney shit?
Being unique is not ugly

>>16593502

The Wrong Trousers :D

>35 psi from the factory
what could go wrong?

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>>16593524
>At least Lexus has it's own identity.

>>16593056
yeah what the fuck is this

I sat in one at the dealer. Honest to god, the interior switches are all out of a VW Golf.

It's heavier and more expensive than an M3. I don't think it looks nearly as good as an M3. Aftermarket and community support will be absolute shit compared to an M3. I'd take an M3

>>16593673
The best rape
In the world

What if
I lease it?

>>16593682
It's lighter, cheaper, has more power, sounds better and is faster than the M3.

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>>16593642
you must like audi and vw

>>16592327
>i can drive really fast in a straight line
>but only when it's on smooth pavement, warm, and the weather is perfecg
ayy lmao

>>16589715
Rather have the Lexus.

>>16593682
Except that it's lighter and cheaper you fucking autist.

>>16593682
Damn you are extremely ignorant

>>16589715
Looks great but for a poorfag like me the 350 or the 280 hp engines would be already quite expensive to own and maintain.

Also
>fiat shitty reliability
Is it a meme or is it still relevant ?

>>16594018
It was relevant in the 90's and early 00's, but it became a meme. They had a lot of electronic and build quality issues but the electronics are outsourced and the build quality became much better.

>>16593739
>>16593943
The M3 rivaling Giulia Quadrifoglio costs $73.595
Base M3 costs $64.495
M3 F80 weighs 1520kg
Giulia weights 1524kg

>>16594221
Base M3 is basically an empty shitbox and you know that. Giulia is full-equipped.

>>16591818
>implying it's possible to find more obscure cars like that in the salt belt

>>16594280
full-equipped? Lol alfa fanboys lying on the internet again
The Giulia doesn't even have full leather heated seats as standard, the M3 does.
You need the additional "luxury pack" to get full leather seats on the Alfa

>>16594913

>full leather

It has leather alcantara as standard and optional the Sparco racing carbon seats

Also there isn't an online configurator in the American Alfa Romeo website, so...

>>16593051
Everyone knows it's a Ferrari derived engine. I'm just saying Alfa doesn't officially say that.

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>>16594913
Lies. The Quadrifoglio has leather-alcantara seats standard (with electrical option) OR Carbon-Sparcos.

>>16597413
Leather-alcantara is not full-leather. You have to pay extra for the Luxury pack to get full leather seats.
Also the M3 has heated seats as standard, the Giulia not

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>>16597828
You're such a dumb motherfucker it's unbelievable...

There are !THREE! seat-possibilities.
1.Two options for the Q: leather-alcantara sport-seats or the Carbon-Sparcos (which are also leather-alcantara) both with/without electrical-option.
2. One for the Normal and Super (cloth or full-leather -no sportseats!)
3. One for the Veloce (Ti): normal sportseats from the Q but with full-leather option.

Idiot.

Pic: Veloce-seats

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Quadrifoglio Sparcos

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Quadrifoglio standard-sportseats (no extra costs!)

>>16594910
>spyder
>obscure
lol

>not traveling to get the car you want

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>>16597943

Also let's say that past the first leather option, the leather trim included in the luxury pack of this car is made out from Poltrona Frau leather which is the same you can find in Maserati and Ferrari cars.

Absolutely spectacular quality, one of the best leather you can buy together with Lexus one.

At BMW you have to pick from 850 different leather grades which is confusing as fuck and if you don't know what you're picking you could buy some shitty leather like the Dakota. Nappa is nice for example.

In Alfa you have to choose from cloth leather mix, full leather and Poltrona Frau with is included only in the luxury pack which also gives a nice set of woods to choose from.

>>16598082
That is a gorgeous interior, holy shit.

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its great. test drove it here in poorope. but id much rather stick with a german. currently selling my 535d and considering this.
>inb4 lol bmw reliability
the humble diesel never failed me for 45k miles that ive done on it

I test drove the 2.2L Jtdm 180 hp and to be fair paired to that 8 speed ZF auto, it was smooth with good kick down and driving it through the worst maintained roads in the UK the giulia is quite comfortable, though I want the petrol Super.

To compare I drive the 1.9L Alfa 159, the car has its quirks, like being quite heavy upfront so loves to pitch its nose hard into corners which means grip in the rear tends to let go in the right conditions and the interior though still nice to sit in, compared to the cars I drive day in, day out it is feeling its age with the lack of certain features.

>>16589748
>pontiac
lul

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>>16589748

Very special reminder that your "iconic" BMW copied Alfa Romeos since the 70's.

Also

>suggesting Pontiac

Ignorant American spotted, talking without knowing.

www.drive.com.au/motor-news/alfa-romeo-giulia-qv-sold-out-20170201-gu3lln.html

M8

i like it.

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>>16599233
>bmw has been copying alfa
you retard
does this look like a bmw to you

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>>16599873
or this one

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>>16599888
BMW??
Also the Giulia was looking so similar to the 3 series even their designer had to speak out, lol
http://www.autonews.com/article/20151116/OEM03/311169975/alfa-design-chief:-we-did-not-copy-a-bmw?X-IgnoreUserAgent=1

>>16599888
massive underrated car. the 3.0 was fantastic and the interior was nice.

>>16599873
The anon said that the BMW front is iconic, I proved that it's not true because as you can see in the picture of the post you quoted they copied Alfa Romeo.

Alfa Romeo had their very distinctive face with the "trilobo" and in the years they evolved the style.

BMW started from copying Alfa Romeo and after that they evolved their own style...but they haven't started from scratch. They copied.

>>16599922
But you are wrong because BMW has had the "twin kidney grille" front end since the 1930's. Just because there was some similarly looking BMW in the 70's it doesn't mean shit.

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>>16599939
pic related

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>>16599939

Take a look here:

http://www.autopareri.com/forums/topic/60462-come-il-design-alfa-romeo-ha-influenzato-il-car-design/

>>16599975
Does not dismiss the fact that BMW has been using the same front end fascia elements for nearly 90 years, thus making it the most "iconic" front end.

>>16593056

Jezza skipped leg day.

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>>16600006
Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 1938

As you can see, they're equally iconic.

>>16600006
So, according to your argument the BMW 520i didn't copy the Alfetta because it's since 90 years that BMW uses the double kidney grill, it doesn't matter that the rest of the car is a rip off.
At same time the new Giulia is copied from the 3 series, no matter if it's using its own iconic trilobe...

>/o/'s logic

>>16589715
I want to hate it, but for some reason I can't, I like it but I probably wouldn't buy one.

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>>16589724
>>16589725
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_F160_engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Pentastar_engine#3.0L

suppose the upside is you can now put Ferrari heads on your Jeep engine block
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerrari

>>16598082
Alcantra is polyester, which does not make the base Q seats full-leather. Are you retarded?

>>16600104
Why hate it? Love trumps hate, you know?

https://www.alfaromeousa.com/hostc/bmo/CUY201703/models.do

Build and price now.

>>16593782
So you drive around an SUV?

>>16601316
Wow, those are some limited color options and packages.

>>16601225
no point in arguing with "muh passhun" fanboys

>>16601921
Alcantara is the material you want for sportseats you stupid idiot.

>>16601996
MUH FULL LEATHER MEME

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International police forces like it

>>16601996
But it's not a fucking sports car unless you buy the Quadrifoglio. And at that price you might as well start looking at real sports cars.

>>16602568
>7:32 at Nurburgring
>Real sports car

Fuck you with the force of a thousand suns, you hater scum

>>16602591
A real sports car is made for sport from the ground up, not just sticking some tires and a beefy engine into a generic multi unit body.

You want Italian sport? Get a Bugatti.

>>16602799
>poor bait

Are you troll aware of the fact that the Giulia is the only car in its league that is born from the beginning as Quadrifoglio and then on the same platform they developed the normal trims?

Every Giulia, even the diesels, have got carbon fibre shaft, sophisticated suspension geometry and weight distribution?

It's a top notch driver's saloon, end of the story. End of the trolling

>>16598082
>that matte wood finish
HNNNNNNGGGG

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>>16602940

>HNNNNNNGGGG
HNNNNNNGGGG

Spicy meatball.jpg

>>16602799
Bugatti is French.

>>16593056
>skinny Jezza
now i've seen everything

I think it's beautiful. But it only comes in auto in the US. And it's very expensive. No surprises, really.

Just can't part with $80k for one.

>>16603000
80k is the Quadrifoglio.

The other motorisations and trims are in line with BMW 3 Series prices.

>>16603004
That's the only one I would want though.

>>16602799

Wow, that comment is a total fail.
Bugatti=french.
The Giulia is based on the Quadrifoglio, not the other way around.
AR isn't Audi THANK GOD!

looks like it'll break before I leave the lot.

>>16603034
You're either female or stuck in 2007, I can't tell which.

>>16589854
are you fucking retarded or something?

>>16602940
I like it, but dear god why is it only on the top part of the console? Why can't we have just wood and leather visible, or at least extend all the way down to the console?

>>16589715

easily the best sedan out there, looks, sounds and drives the best, the interior is also beautiful without retarded chrome and dumb screens everywhere.

>>16592327
>fun
Only if your definition of fun is being too scared to drive your own car

>>16591182
GTO more like GTFO

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>>16603099
>drives an Audi
>thinks it's sporty

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GET READY NIGGERS

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BAM

Butthurt Germans with their fake charts always let the M3 win because their asses are literally on fire

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>>16603595

The Kekdillac

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>>16592031

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>>16589715
It's so unique in its styling I love it

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>>16603595
these charts are not good people, i tell you they are fake, fake i tell you folks it like these people are making charts but they lie...these are fake charts its a bad company

>>16603910
If you cant see the differences between those cars, get your eyes checked...by a shotgun.

>>16603595
I would be happy in any of those cars, dont care who makes them.

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>>16604000

You wouldn't be happy driving with this crappy plastic piece of shit in front of your eyes

>>16601996
why are full leather seats an extra cost option then?

>>16601996
My point was: the Giulia is more expensive than the M3 and it does NOT come fully loaded as standard.

>>16604050
i'd never be happy listening to phill collins thats for sure

They're finally supplying the US dealers with the Giulia and they'll have 1 or 2 Super Bowl ads, this month's sales will show how much potential they have in the US.

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>>16603910
Go back in time and look how much Alfa influenced the whole industry design-wise.

Just look at pic related. This was 3 years before the Golf...

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>>16604196

He doesn't have to go back, he can just click on the link here >>16599975
and see for himself

>>16604097
That's not true at all.
1.) In Europe the Giulia Q is cheaper than the M3. Fact.
2.) In the Veloce full-leather is standard. In the Q leather/alcantara is standard.

In the C 63 Amg s you have to pay for the carbon fiber interior trim...$975 + $2.500 for the ugly performance seats

>>16604097

It doesn't come with full-gps, Sparcos and carbon-brakes. The rest is pretty standard.

I seen one where I live (Scotland) they are fucking beautiful

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Fully loaded Giulia Quadrifoglio here.

Note: there are 2 extra series colours which costs $2.200 while the others like the blue I chose are $600

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Comparison M3/Giulia fully loaded.
I didn't choose TV and head up display because Giulia hasn't that option. Rest is pretty the same.

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I took the competition package btw.

Conclusio: The extras for the M3 are MUCH MORE expensive and the base M3 is pretty "empty"...

>>16604675
>>16604681

So it's true that the !base! m3 is indeed cheaper than the base Giulia but the Giulia is muchmuch better equipped than the M3 out of the box.

>>16597943

Those seats look pretty nice. I love horizontal lines.

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>>16602940
matte wood best wood

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>>16603943
Lol r u mad cause you have generic taste in cars
> it's not a car it's an alfalfa romeo

>>16605956

Is that person eating a camel fetus?

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Tobacco leather with luxury pack

>>16607032
oh look a 2010 bmw

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>>16607042

Seriously?

You're an idiof

>>16607045
That's a 12 year old E90/E92 you posted

>>16604681
Yet the base M3 comes with full leather heated seats, the base Q has half leather seats

>>16607045
that's actually older and looks better.

>>16607048
I'm sorry for you anon, should check with a doctor

>>16607053

It may have leather seats as standard but also as standard it gets pounded in the ass by the Quadrifoglio

>>16607032
>>16607036
>>16607039

>Buying beautiful new alfa romeo, a car people have been waiting for for decades.
>Post 3 pictures on /o/ in appropriate thread, rather then making a huge fuss about it like the faggot with a ralliart Mitsubishi
>Get shit like >>16607042 from poorfags


Shit, nice car dude. I bet you deserved it.
also requesting more pics

>>16589715
it looks pigfat though.

>>16602490
only romanians like it.

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>>16607056
Sorry anon that's not my car, I'm taking photos from an owners forum to show here the different trims.

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>>16607060
>>16607060
>>16607060

Interior is really nice, exterior is somewhat generic among its competition.

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>>16607055
You should check wikipedia, the E90 was in production since 2004
Also the Quadrifoglio is a straight line mobile just like AMG benzes, still cant beat the cheaper M3 on track Lmaooo
Can't fuck with the king of sports saloons

>>16607057
It weigs nearly 3800 lbs, it is pigfat.

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>>16607086

>what's this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5gEdJmIVqLY

Also the lap on Eboladrome was on wet and 1 second more than the Acura nsx...if that is slow...

>>16607086
>pretending you know anything about really driving these cars
>not understanding the implications of track times other than a simple minded absolute value of a single lap time
>not understanding fast laps conducted on different days by different drivers are only marginally comparable at best

GTFO with your database racing faggot

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>>16607174
>all these excuses for being slower
>MUH PASHUN
lmao FCA fanboy tears are delicious.
Also these giulia fanboy comments crack me up kek

>>16607086
>All German tracks with German drivers for German magazines
Obviously sabotaged laps, Germans are one of the most sleazebag peoples in the world, remember the 11 million (defeat devices).

>>16607186
Yes yes sabotaged laps the damn nazi Germans poured oil on the tracks as Giulia was lapping it!!

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>>16607189
Tell us why in every comparison then German cars are superior if the magazine is german.

M4 was every time a lot faster (many seconds) than the Lexus RC-F and in American charts the Japanese was rated better to drive and scored a nearly identical time on track.

Germans are absolutely butthurt losers unable to lose, we saw that during the past 2 world wars, and we saw now that they're so butthurt that the Fiat 500 is trashing their piece of shit non existent rivals (look at what the Volkswagen up is and guess why it isn't selling) that they managed to make a crash test Fiat 500 vs Audi Q7 just to claim that the little Fiat isn't safe. Next time what? Fiat 500 vs train?

Also, evergreen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb6dBj3ZbKA

Butthurt losers

>>16607215
The M4 was faster than the RC-F in every recorded head to head track battle or drag race. No matter if its a american, british, german, japanese or australian review.

>>16607231
That's no different from English always and always letting their car winning every time, literally the rest of the world doesn't give a shit about the Jaguar XE but according to the British magazines it's the god machine

>>16607090
3800lbs is lightweight for that segment.

>>16592424
WRONG
there is 3 years warranty and 7 years of free ferrari maintenance at ferrari genuine dealerships

>>16607246
Light weight?
The M3 F80 weighs a whopping 300 pounds less.
Alfa is up there with one of the biggest weights among the C63S sedan and the IS F.

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With the granny :3

#soul #passion

>>16607086
Watch the fucking 7:32 video on the Ring and shut up, bimmerfag

>>16607337
simply bellissimo.

>>16607351
>muh ring times
Too bad the M3 has never run a factory supervised ring lap.
Also it's widely known for manufacturers to ''tune up'' their cars for the best Nurburgring lap time yet the tuned version is far from the production model.
For example M4 GTS ran a 7:27 Ring time with BMWs own pro driver while journalists managed to get only a 7:3x time.
Journalist recorded times matter more than manufacturer publicity stunts

i like this car but i can see the autists just want to argue numbers & track ability despite none of you dumb neckbeards ever owning this car or taking it to a track as a professional racing driver

yeesh

>>16607365

Yeah because BMW fangirls did it right?

Double thinking, the best thinking

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>>16607365
It's just fun proving the Italifag shills that their ''muh passhun'' car is actually slower than the competition.

>>16607389
thanks for proving my point you fucking retard.

>>16607389

The more you know™

Most of the times you read there has been scored with the manual Giulia Quadrifoglio while M3 and C63 both have double clutch transmission.

Also, again, timed by German butthurt magazines defending national cars.

>discarded

>>16607407
Most of the times scored with manual transmission? Source on that?
The M3 comes with a manual transmission available too BTW
Not my fault that all of the actually significant tracks are located in Germany and car reviewers from the whole Europe are visiting them to review cars.

>>16607403
You see, the fact that they are really triggered and butthurting to an Italian car surrounded by memes and legends is a proof that actually the Giulia is a great car and a great Alfa Romeo.

They're scared, they can't cope with the fact they spent every single dollar they earned in the wrong brand and therefore girls will stop looking at them and their meme car. They have to justify their life choices and to be appreciated by the community standards even if they're based on memes like German cars = best cars.

>>16607407
but who fucking cares? it bears 0 relevance to using it on a cunting road you dumb motherfuckers.

>>16607418

Because at the time of that laps the automatic Quadrifoglio wasn't available.

>>16607426
But the German competition is still faster and cheaper.
So the if anything the Alfa is the meme car.

>>16607429
I'm not the one trolling, I know that.

Tell the German faggot to fuck off

>>16604675
>>16604681

>>16607442

We proved that you're not right, also the M3 needs the competition package to equal the Giulia. Also the same goes for the C class, you need the C63 AMG S because the normal C63 would suck the Italian cock so badly.

Guess what: they cost sensibly more

>>16607460
Competition Package?
That is the normal M3 you dumb retard>>16607086
The Competition Package M3 F80 blows the Giulia out of the water
Also there are no lap times recorded by the ''standard'' C63 so who cares.

>>16607460
Also a CP equipped M3 F80 is still cheaper than the base Giulia QV so fuck off.

>>16607054
it looks like shit

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>>16607476
It does matter you dumb motherfucker because of you want the Amg that can compete with the Giulia, the C63 S, you have to pay 10.000€ more than the normal C63 with 470 hp.

Please stop being idiots, there are people reading your posts here

>>16607495
Again, there are no recorded lap times of the ''normal'' C63, or if there are, they are added to the C63S page.
BTW the ''normal'' M3 is faster than the C63S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=594&v=Hf67GoQhFMk

>>16607500
>There are no recorded laps of the normal C63

WHO THE FUCK CARES?

The situation is the following:

>base 476 ho C63 amg costs like a standard Giulia Quadrifoglio

>if you want to rival a Giulia Quadrifoglio you have to take the pumped version of the C63 and get the C63 S which costs 9.000 more than the base C63

>the Alfa Romeo has only one trim called Quadrifoglio and if they're going to release a lighter and more powerful trim it'll be called GTA.

As of we're talking the base C63 doesn't cost less than the Giulia and it's slower, so stfu please in front of the evidence.

>>16607514
The situation is that you do not know how fast or slow the standard C63 is because nobody has lapped it, i.e there is no EVIDENCE that's why I am using C63S lap times.
Also: Giulia Q base MSRP: $73.595
2017 C63 AMG S Sedan MSRP: $73.725
Lol you have to pay $130 more to go faster on a track.

>>16607389
Tested from a german magazine PLUS the Giulia was a manual.

>>16607479
Yes, and it's totally empty as well...

>>16607561
Better equipped than the base Giulia Q.

>>16607364
>Journalist recorded times matter more than manufacturer publicity stunts

Nope. It's the exact opposite.

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>>16607540

>USA = The world

Just no, faggot.

>>16607580
>Not knowing manufacturers tune their cars for best Burgerring lap time records
stay pleb.

>>16607570
Holy shit you're a dumb motherfucker, aren't you?

We already showed you, that the Q has MUCH MORE STUFF IN IT out of the box than the M3 and that those extras cost WAY more than those of the Q.

>>16607588
So IF that's the case and everybody does it.... Where is your problem then?

And what about different grip-levels? Different tyres? Different temperatures? There are ALWAYS factors which can influence lap-times you moron.

Butthurt germön-fags. Giulia rules em all!

>>16607588

According to your logic the Giulia is still faster, even after the "tuning".

>>16607594
MUCH MORE STUFF
Lmao such as? The Giulia doesn't even get heated full leather seats as standard.
>>16607606
it includes engine and suspension tuning.
Journalists get the production models to review, that's why factory claimed and journalist set lap times often are much different.
>rules them all
By being slower? Lmao sure. No point in arguing with brainwashed ''muh soul'' fanboys

>>16607616

Yeah, like Horst Von Saurma and the 4C who drove slower than a professional driver...but no one gave a shit because the only kid here is you.

MUH TUNED FAKE CARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfsREt3SRt8

>still faster than things that costs twice or more

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>>16607626
>>16607616
Downloaded the January 2017 AutoBild (paid 1 euro) for this thread just to post these lap times.
Automatic Giulia. The C63S was the slowest in this test but the M3 is still not beat.
Overall winner was the M3.
The M3 created this class in 1985 and, unsurprisingly, is still the benchmark.

>>16604303
Is that US? Is Lipari Gray an option?

>>16607648
What is not clear about "German magazines will always let german cars win"?

This is another proof for that.

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If I was rich I would surely get one, too bad I'm a poor wageslave so I have to settle for used <10000 $ japanese cars

>>16607657
Yes and no.

Vesuvio gray is better.

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>>16607660
But that is false since the Giulia was rated better than the C63S.
Why cant you FCA fanboys admit that the Giulia is not ''the best''.
Or post a non-German track review please

>>16607665
Lipari has a beautiful sheen that Vesuvio doesn't. The Vesuvio is too generic too. It doesn't make a statement that this is not just a BMW with a different front fascia.

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>>16607045
Notch it up 8 months and we have this

2017 alfa looks worse then a 2011 bmw

>>16593141
rev up ur engines

>That retarded German who won't stop posting biased German magazines proving just how butthurt Germans are about the Giulia
Meanwhile in neutral US magazines >>16604216

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>>16607666

Because the Giulia is the rival for the M3 while the C 63 AMG is an outsider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js6bVw5FDx4

On Motortrend review the Giulia was faster

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>>16607673
He didn't post a 2010 BMW though
>>16607045
He posted a E90 3 series that was made from 2004-2009 to make german cars look bad.
And even the old E90 had some good interior setups available

>>16607673
That dash is disgusting

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>>16607700
nough

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Car & driver instrumental test results, strangely differents from the ones from Germans magazines

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This also is interesting for the faggot that keeps shitting about the Giulia Quadrifoglio being too expensive, for what it is

>>16607704
Actually they are exactly the same as the Autobild 2017 test
>>16607689
Strange that BMW's lose in literally every Motor Trend test. But I suppose it's possible for the Giulia to be faster on longer tracks hence the power gap

>>16607680
>>16607689
>neutral US magazines

But people call US magazines biased all the damn time especially when a US car comes out faster than a non-US one or they like the US car better than its none-US rival. Remember the first Camaro vs M4 thread? people couldn't stop saying they were "biased" and "payed by X company" so much so that Motortrend themselves were taking the piss out of the people who were saying it. i guarantee you sooner or later if a result comes out you guys don't like you'll call the US test biased as well.

not on anyone's side btw and don't give a shit.

>>16607724
What is the Performance Index percentages? is that performance per dollar or something?

>>16607553
Kek

>>16607703
Look at all the buttons and dials. And how the black plastic goes down all the way to the console. It's oppressive.

>>16607759
>What is the Performance Index percentages? is that performance per dollar or something?

Kinda, It's a mix of performance values (lap time, acceleration, top speed) compared to the final price.

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...and then we have the trashed Audi fangirls pretending that they drive sport cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A08GhsmlcBk

>>16607802
I hate Audi but I think he is implying that Quattros perform well on slippery surfaces

>>16607817

>I think he is implying that Quattros perform well on slippery surfaces

That's not even true lol + that's the joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzcuc4ErBzg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAusbzs_9eo

Those side license plates make me want to puke, they ruin the whole aesthetics of the front of the car. Doesn't this bother you people? Do you not see the the huge crap hanging in the there that doesn't fit with anything else?

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>>16607846

>>16607862
Nope, I personally find it awesome and unique.

>>16589854
GTC lusso has a v12

>>16607616
>heated full leather seats

Exactly those things you DON'T want in a lightweight sportsedan.

>>16607892
There is also a V8-version.

>>16607896
The lightest Giulia still weighs 270 lbs more than the M3 with full leather and heated seats.

>>16607908

Hurr Durr weight matters hurr durr

A pig fat Nissan GT-R is faster so argument invalid

>>16607974
>Exactly those things you DON'T want in a lightweight sportsedan.
>""lightweight''''
>>16607896
fucking retard.

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>>16607988
>spastic

KEK

>>16607908
And? Are you buying the damn thing to race? No. You're buying a luxury car to MAKE A STATEMENT. About you taste, your fashion sense, and you're uniqueness. Otherwise you'd buy a Tata Nano or some $3k Honda Civic.

>>16608542
>claims to be lightweight
>is actually not light weight
>AND???
fucking retard

>>16608551
A goddamn M3 is sumo car fat you fag. A Smart or a Yaris or a Scoot Coupe is a lightweight car.

>>16608596
see >>16607246