Porsche thread

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Well, this has been a while.

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SNUUUU

Oh hey guys I'll post the pasta in a bit

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So very exciting! Oh boy, Porsche!

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Huge wing n'stuff!

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Are we back?

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notice me senpai

>>16583510
>4 hours later

Want to get an early N/A watercooled 911/Boxster but are afraid of the infamous IMS issue? Well I'm gonna try to change your mind

>What is an IMS
The intermediate shaft has been present on Porsche flat 6 engines ever since the original air cooled 911 all the way up to the 9x7.1 generation 911s, Caymans, and Boxsters
It's used to indirectly drive the camshafts and is in charge of engine timing

>What goes wrong?
The IMS itself is perfectly fine, the problem was when Porsche switched to watercooled engines they needed a bearing on the flywheel side of the engine, and with their infinite wisdom they decided to use a sealed bearing with a lifetime grease
What happens over time to a small handful of these bearings is that the grease dries out and it fails, causing the IMS to throw the timing out of sync and grenade the entire engine in seconds
The bearing on the opposite side is lubricated by engine oil and has never been known to fail

>How often to these fail?
Engines from '97-'99 use a robust dual row bearing that has a failure rate of less than 1%, it's the engines made from '00-'04 that use a weak single row bearing that has a failure rate as high as 10%
But don't worry just yet, general consensus is that if the bearing in your car is faulty it would have failed before 40k miles
In addition the best way to keep it healthy is to actually drive your car like a Porsche should be driven; low mileage garage queens are more prone to failure

>How much would this cost me to repair?
If you have a higher mileage car I wouldn't worry too much, especially if your car has a dual row bearing
Fixes include:
>replacing the bearing with a new OEM part - $100
>IMS Guardian - $400
>replacing the bearing with an aftermarket ceramic bearing - $600
>removing the seal and adding a flange that directly feels engine oil to the bearing - $800
The last option is the only true way to fix the problem, but I personally don't feel any of this is necessary

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dumping Porsches

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>pog is back now that I've got some questions on my mind
Sweet

I've been looking at 996's for a bit of time now and only just realized 997.1 Carrera S's go for ~40k USD nowadays. That seems like an absolute steal for what you're getting.
Outside of IMS memes are there anything wrong with them? Is this normal? Anything to look out for not mentioned in the pasta?

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PB blast all of the things

>>16583099
resize your photos god damn

>>16585080
Get better internet

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>>16585164
tell that to gook moot

>>16585179
>>16585080
This is why I preload the images in the thread

>>16582991
Where'd you guys go? did autoib die?

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>>16584610
Shit yea got distracted.

>Air Cooled 911?
$20K+ SC
$30k+ 3.2 Carrera
$30k+ 964
$50k+ 993

>Water Cooled 911?
$20k+ 996
$30+ 997
$60k+ 991

>Boxster
$7k+ 986
$14k+ 986 S
$20k+ 987 (+$2-5k for Cayman)
$25k+ 987 S (+$2-5k for Cayman)

Based 944
>$5000 N/A
>$10,000 Tarbo
*Disclaimer: You can buy a 944 for under a grand, but the overwhelming consensus in the community is that sorted cars cost ~$5k... so if you buy that car for under a grand when you're done it'll be around or over $5k. YMMV.

>928
$8k+

>968
$12k+

>>16585708
*prices in USD as of last year

>>16584799

Nothing to be worried about, they are a blast. I have seen them go for 30k with about 80k miles.

Have a listen for the cat converter rattle. Nothing scary but the Porsche replacements are horrifyingly expensive. There are obviously cheap ways around this but it's good for negotiating.

Brakes, particularly rotors, are very pricy due to the size. Again easily done for cheap but something to haggle.

Try to avoid any aftermarket stereos, on the early ones the factory head was shit and many people hacked up the dashes trying to swap things out. reinstalling the dash is tricky and once removed it never fits quite right. Squeaks. Just don't.

Other than that they are a blast. Buy one. I have worked on and driven lots of 911s but for every day I have a serious boner for the 997S at the current prices.

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Also, I've been documenting the rebuild of my $800 944 on youtube, if anyone is interested. Its been going pretty well but really slowly.
https://youtu.be/7lR0h0-eivI

>>16586273
Nice bro

>>16584807
Is flachbau heathenism, or is it god-tier?

>>16586273
Oh this is neat.

>>16586273
>tfw I'm too autistic to make YouTube videos of me working on my car

Just bought a turbo back exhaust and Cobb AccessPort for muh 996TT. Let the slippery slope of spending too much money on parts begin!

>>16589713
Will it finally go BWAAAAAH SUTUTU

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Hhhnnnnngggg

Anybody ever gone the aftermarket route on their 944 headers and exhaust? It seems like there's very little out there

>>16589912
not much gains to be had vs stock as I understand it but I believe Lindsey racing makes a kit.

Never really looked though as the regs I'm building to don't allow anything other than stock for headers.

>>16590013
Yea I've read about the 944spec regulations and they require stock headers. Probably why stock headers crazy expensive and rare. Just had to dish out $70 for just the outer headers. Most expensive repair so far.

>>16590395
Not too bad for $70, you can sometimes get lucky on Rennlist with that stuff.

They've been trying to merge 944 cup and spec 944 so now there is an open class but at that price point you're better off with the turbo, so yea I don't think there's much out there for the n/a.

maybe go custom? What's your plan for the car?

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Hey can I hang out with you guys?

>>16589912
eBay headers, lol

>>16590639
Shoo! Shoo I say!

>>16590639
We should just make a German car general, and tell VW owners to fuck off

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>>16590654
>>16590671
But you guys....porsche built 3/4 of this damn car. y u so mean

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>>16590675
Well dang. I guess you're cool then. But none of the other Audi fags.

Really want to cop a 3.2 carrera or convert a 997.1 turbo to rwd.

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>>16590761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWA4uJOXF-g

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hi pog

been a while

thinking of deleting my muffler this weekend and trying it out. Primary and secondary cats will remain in place. I don't really know what else to do with the car besides adding an aux cord and making it louder.

also my fuel gauge is being finnicky. full tank of gas marks as half a tank in the gauge. Common issue apparently.

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>>16591835
I'm in the profess or trying to remove the muffler on my 986 right now, fucking rust welded the entire exhaust system together

Canada I swear to god

>>16592883
Process*

>>16591835
>>16592883


The spec 986's I've heard at the track (straight pipe exhaust) are loud as FUCK.

>>16593048
Yeah I plan on getting a pair of Thrush Turbo mufflers, just need to remove the OE muffler to measure things

>>16591835
TITS OR GTFO!

>>16593048

those have both cats deleted though.

we're only removing past secondary cats.
Still loud as fuck though. awesome.

>>16593753
no

>>16592883
>tfw no snow or salt

i haven't looked down there on my car but i'm pretty sure its literally perfect, shouldnt be too hard to take it off.

>>16594177
Lel I have a 2.5l, so I don't have cats built into the headers

>>16582991
Besides the IMS, what are the typical problems of a 996 and what should I be looking for in a good candidate car?

>>16594228
>damaged microswitches in the door handles (window has to move down a bit when you pull on the door handle )
>damaged microswitches in the keyfob itself or keyfob that works intermittently ( $300+ to get a new key as they cant be easily reprogrammed)
>cdr220 stereo is known to fail
>wonky fuel gauge, senders fail
>center console scratches easily and its a nightmare to fix and repaint
>mayo in the oil cap can indicate cylinder imperfections in early 996

>>16594228
Rear main seal can leak, not a very hard fix much like the IMS bearing iirc. Still, make sure it has been done or at least it doesn't leak.
Steering rack and such, again watch for leaks.
Coolant tank and cap can start leaking on older ones, these got updated later into its lifecycle.
As always, make sure the previous owner maintained it properly.

And you can check for Type II over-rev warning using an OBDII scanner, the Type II over-rev means a previous owner moneyshifted which is something you don't really want.

As for which options you want, full leather interior is awesome, sport seats are pretty cool, color-matched center console really makes the interior pop and Litronic (xenon) headlights make the weird headlights look much sharper with their clear lenses and projector housings.

See also http://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/414586-the-ultimate-preowned-996-buying-guide.html
Very useful guide. Everything I said is from there.

>>16594204

so in theory my 3.2 should be a little quieter yes?

i've only found videos of people with non S's doign it.

>>16594505
In theory sure, but I doubt you'll be able to tell the difference by ear

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Some AutoCAD shit in here

ded

>>16597510
No, ur ded

>>16597510
forgive us, we are out earning money.

>>16598077
Shots fired

Got a cutting disk to chop up the rusty exhaust
>inb4 my car goes up in flames

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>>16582991
Guys some fucking baboon child in my neighborhood scratched my car and I think this is a good reason for a lynch mob

>>16590771
Why is it necessary for a music video to go on for 3 and a half minutes before the song starts?

>>16600081
its art pham.

>>16600071
Mow him down with your ASSAULT HEADLIGHTS

>>16589751
No, I don't believe it will.

Cobb Accessport arrives tomorrow! Probably load their stock map while I wait for the exhaust to be built and shipped.

>>16600007
RIP in pieces anon

>>16600732
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

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>>16600749

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Why does it fire?

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Sup porsche anons

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Muh Porsche muh money mone money derp lerp

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>>16600797

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>>16600797
>derp
>lerp

>>16600813
Nice car anon! Congrats.

>>16600847
thanks I saved my foodstamps for a month!

>>16600797
why is suzuki so based? why did they have to withdraw from the US?

>>16600797
Britbongs confirmed for not being able to wrench

>>16590761
Isn't the AWD in Turbos only active some of the time?

>>16602357
It's sorta like reverse Haldex, I think? Basically RWD until it detects slip.

>>16604849

that looks 100% exactly like my dad's speedster replica, except his has a brown interior and fuchs'

Saving grace

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>>16605711
That was down in retiree-ville Florida.


Super pumped my 44 is going to the paint shop on Monday. Going all white exterior because race car but also the interior is all guards red so muh carrera.

Is it worth getting a 924 or a 944 as your first car? How much does it cost if something makes the car undrivable? And how is the fuel economy?

>>16608357
>first car
>or only car
A bad idea unless you are already comfortable wrenching and diagnosing issues yourself. If you have to take it to a shop expect to spend a minimum of $300-$500.

Get something cheap and reliable, then get the best 944 you can afford.
See>>16585708

>>16608357
Spend the extra money and get a Boxster, they're fairly reliable and can be daily driven without much drama

>>16608383
....and make sure you have a vagina an a couple of tits!

>>16608494
I love this meme

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>tfw transaxle prices have been rising sharply in my country
>tfw nearly every 944 is over 10k€
>tfw I might be lucky if I can find a 924 under 5k€

Fuck Portugal. Also, it's good to see /pog/ back.

>>16586273
I've been following your documenting for a while now, gg! 800$ for a fully functional 944 is by far the most amazing Porsche deal I've ever seen.

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>never ever

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>>16608767
why would you want one?

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>>16608563
Me too. I love memes which a true.

>>16609062
>>16608494
Busriders need new jokes

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>>16609400
You love the Gayman, don't you?

>>16608820
Why wouldn't you want a non-fugly version of the Panamera? Literally all it lacks to become one of the most remarkable car of the 21st century, much like the 928 was one of the most recognizable cars of the 20th century, is not looking like dogshit.

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>>16609795
>928 was one of the most recognizable cars

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>>16609816
>most expensive and prestigious car in the Porsche lineup during the late 70s
>easily the most futuristic design seen in a car until then
>blessed with the Weissach axle
>owned by prestigious personalities like Stanley Kubrick and the Prince of Monaco
>only sports car in history to win the Car of the Year award
>even had an entire Mythbusters episde dedicated to it

Sure, the 911 is possibly the most famous Porsche design, but most people who lived through the late 70s to the early 90s certainly remember this badass mofo, especially in Europe. It might not be the most recognizable Porsche but it might very well be the second most.

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>tfw not owning a porsche
>the closest ill ever get to owning a porsche are my prosche c2 rims under my golf mk2

>>16600732
>>16600777
>>16608494
>>16609062
>>16609568
>>16609816
>first /pog/ in a while
>someone had to show up and shitpost it up
Fuck off anon, no one's forcing you to like Porsches.

>>16609960
>Mythbusters

WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!

Looks like a Opel to me. No one cares.
Porsche is shit and without their fucking SUVs they would be long dead.

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>>16610000
>No one cares
Except for all the people who bought one and all the many more who still want to have one to this day. The fact that you don't like it doesn't automatically turn it into a disliked / ignored car.

>>16609984
It's just /o/ in general, the place just keeps getting worse and worse

>>16608753
Also was delivered to my doorstep. Sometimes people on craigslist can be cool

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>>16609982
>not phonedials

got new shoes today! Sumitomo HTR Z3.
old toyo proxes were dryrotted on the inside walls :( Scary!

Fronts are 215/50/17, Rears 255/40/17

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>>16610028
Don't feed him bro.

>FR
>V8
>coupe
>Porsche

It's a fuckin cool car

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>>16611283
I've been wanting to get one for a while now, a pity that simply maintaining them on an operational condition is far more expensive than anything else from the transaxle era. They look pretty sleek with racing mods tho.

>>16611182
I wanted phonedials but couldnt find a decent set.

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Flashed my car, feels good but didn't get a great opportunity to test it. Was raining like crazy and tons of people on the road, highway and city streets. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

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Alright bussriders, do you rate 996 2c over e92 m3?

>>16612960
996 C2 is more comparable to the E46 M6. At the very least a 996C4S is a better comparison

>>16611390

yeah one of the "perks" of having an ageing flagship model is that it's usually a test bed for new tech. i have driven a few and they seem to have similar electronic gremlins to the other transaxles, just turned to 11.

dat v8 roar when they work tho

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>>16612916
That car...
I bet you look like a douchebag.

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>>16613024
>>16613114
Do you ever feel pity for yourself, anon? It must kinda suck to feel bothered by how people enjoy a manufacturer that you're personally not all that much into.

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>>16608494
>>16609062
>>16609568
>>16613024
>>16613114
Are you this butthurt because you got overlapped by someone driving a Boxster or else?

what are some ways i can convince my stupid naive sister not to buy an obviously piece of shit 11000 porsche and ruin herself financially trying to fix/maintain it

is there some kind of chart like: "if your porsche is from this year and costs less than this its probably not running"?

>>16613199
see
>>16585708

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>>16613195
>996
>thinking people are jealous of that trash heap

sides, meet orbit

>>16613199
See >>16613210. If she really wants a modern-looking Porsche for less than that without blowing her entire finances then a 986 on the 6k-7k mark might be a good investment.

>>16613222
Here's your (you)

>>16613017
I know but they both cost 35-45k in EU.

>>16585708
>$30k+ 964
Good luck with that, any running 964 goes for over 40k.

>>16613331
Not that anon but I know a grill who found a running 964 on a ~30k€ budget. I guess you just have to look absurdly hard for one.

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>>16613331
2 minutes on google bruh

Those prices reflect when I put it together last year but are still fairly accurate. It doesn't mean a great example, just a solid running reasonable example

>>16613499
For some reason I didn't think about the cab while talking about 964, cheapest coupe goes for 44k, same dealer as the cab you posted.

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>be browsing local craigslist equivalent
>find 986 for 9.5k eurobucks
>dark metallic blue, not boring old black or silver
>2.7l and fucking loaded (xenon, leather interior, manual, even includes a hardtop in the price)
All of my want

>>16614607
What country, anon? You can usually find more 986s on the 9.5k eurobucks level in most of the EU.

>>16614659
Netherlands. Manual 986s are suprisingly rare for some reason, tiptronics are fucking everywhere.
Same with later/larger engined models, and hardtops increase prices even further.
And even if you find one with all the extras you want there's about a 60% chance of it being silver and like 30% of it being black.

>>16614673
Fun fact, they use Audi transmissions

>>16614677
I know, they bolt straight up to most Audi engines such as the 2.7TT and 4.2l V8.

>>16612916

>automatic

>>16614607
looks good. I want to get those 18" Carrera wheels on my 986.

>>16614484
Fair enough, but I have seen high mileage coupes selling near me for around $30k. Much of it depends on the regional market and time of year.

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Quiztime: What's the Porche?

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My turbo ss

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>>16615330
>>16615338
you are truly one of the most cancerous anons on this website.

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>>16615351
>biting

In other words this exhaust should be off soon enough

Gaymans are cheap and reliable so the meme goes right

>>16613222
That's a pretty car. Unfortunately they are going up in prices.

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Fucking finally. Shit's loud

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>>16613222
>>16615687
Anyone else thinks that, in perhaps 10 to 20 years, the 996 will be properly hailed as the classic it truly is? This was by far the greatest leap in 911 design and technology, and yet, most purists still look down on it because muh aircooled engine.

>>16615708
Well done! RIP anyone behind you

>>16615708
I dunno but your thumbnail is reminding me about Nakai-sans shitty RWB welds

>>16615814
Ouch

>>16615755
I hope not, I wanna buy one in a couple years like that Anon in Cali did

$13k for a face lifted 996 with a 6 speed in great condition, god damn

>>16615978
On that topic, where the fuck's the cool anon with the red 996?

>>16616258
Probably driving it

>>16615798
>>16615814
Made some short clips, more to come tomorrow

>>>/wsg/1530093
>>>/wsg/1530094

Damn I need to get me some new mufflers

>>16616340

sounds great dude

doesnt sound that loud but i bet its probably just the camera

Cant wait to take mine off !

i've dailied straightpiped cars before, so im not really afraid of it being too loud.

>>16616356
I think my phone is probably auto-adjusting the volume. I'll try out my dashcam tomorrow

>>16616407
also
>188k miles

holy fuck

my 986 barely has 30k miles

>>16616508
lel that's actually kilometres, so "only" 117k miles

>>16616575

still a fair amount, geez

Hypothetically if one was to buy a cayman and swap in a 911 engine, would it be impossible due to electronics without going to an aftermarket ecu?

This is with a PDK btw

t. fag with too much money

>>16600797
While the porsche may cost more to repair, it won't break as often as the ford that breaks 10 times a week.

Still cheaper in the long run.

>>16616779
You would have the car that Porsche refuses to build. Please do it.

I would expect to swap in a 911 electronic system or a custom system.

My head hurts now.

>>16616801
I mean i have the money and i think it would be fucking fantastic, i hear the caymans handle great (never driven one) and it's making me think i should buy one and modify it instead of paying for a 911.

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>>16613114
Why so butthurt anon?

>>16616779
Dunno about PDKs or newer Caymans, but my Boxster has a smaller version of the exact same engine from the 996
I could swap in a 3.4l from a 996, reusing the same wiring harness, and flash the ECU with the 911 profile to get full power from it

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Headers coming in Wednesday. Then I can complete the rebuild. Haven't driven her in ~5 months.

We /hype/ now

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>>16613114
>demotivational
leddit pls

>>16616834
Oh no, you got the gay one... in silver!
I'm sorry ;-(

Is there any Porsch from the last 20 years which actually sounds good?

>>16617033
>Haven't driven her in ~5 months.
Are you the 800$ 944 anon? If so, wasn't it already working when you got it? Why can you no longer drive it?

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>>16617874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncO4vGfvE34

>>16618693
Yes, and I blew a head gasket within the first couple of months, so the engine is currently being rebuilt >>16586273

The process has taken extremely long as I work full time and take classes full time as well. Not to mention having dremel off half of the bolts from being rusted to shit

>>16617874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmM_UMwbTks

>>16616811
>>16616896
That is a thought, perhaps the 3.4 or 3.6 will slip in there and work, but if it can be done with the 3.8 S engine it will truly be a beast.

Find an Indy Porsche shop and start chatting with them, see what they can suggest or if they are even interested.

Guesstimating that when all is said and done with a shop doing the work you'd be looking at $15-$20k on top of purchasing the cayman. More depending on which 911 engine you buy

>>16619430
I think all the S engines are M97s, whereas "regular" 911s, Boxsters and Caymans have M96s of varying capacities. A Cayman S is probably your best bet for a 3.8 S swap, obviously because of upgraded brakes and cooling and I think the engine is from the same family.

>>16619527
M97s were used in pre-face lifted 987s and 997s
M96s were used in 986s and 996s
This applies for both non-S and S models

Turbos, GT3s, and GT2s all used completely different Metzger engines

>>16619995
Looks like I made a bit of a mistake, a quick read through this thread cleared things up: http://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/730388-all-this-talk-about-m96-vs-m97-what-s-the-straight-dope.html

Basically the M96 was used in the 997, but only the C2. The C2S had the M97. I'm assuming the same goes for the 987, M96 for the base, M97 for the S.
You're right about the 996/986 all having M96 engines though.

>>16619995
>>16620049
Okay, this is where shit gets fucking weird. According to Wikipedia:
>2007–2009 2.7 litre "M97" 245 hp flat-six (VarioCam Plus)
>(211 hp version available in some countries)
>Late 2005 to Early 2006 3.4 litre "M96" 295 hp flat-six (VarioCam Plus). "M96" engine versions not sold in U.S.
>all MY 2006-MY 2008 U.S. delivery Cayman (245 hp) and Cayman S (295 hp) equipped with "M97" engines
>Late 2006–2009 3.4 litre "M97" 295 hp flat-six (VarioCam Plus)
>2009- 2.9 litre 265 hp flat-six (VarioCam Plus)
>(211 hp version available in some countries)
>2009- 3.4 litre "9A1" 320 hp flat-six (VarioCam Plus and DFI)

>Late 2005 to Early 2006 3.4 litre "M96" 295 hp flat-six (VarioCam Plus). "M96" engine versions not sold in U.S.

The 3.4l is the S, so it's the other way around for the Cayman I guess? Non-S is all 2.7l M97, S models outside the US between late 2005 and early 2006 have the 3.4l M96.

>>16620079
>>16620049
Fucking Porsche, I wouldn't be surprised if they just had some M96s left over and stuck them in some 3rd world 997s

My '98 Boxster uses a radio from the 993 so it's nothing new

i like the 930/964 and 912/E

>>16620157
The 912 is still my favorite 911 tbqh, although the 930 does come close.

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Muffler delete on a Boxster is too fucking loud, ordered a pair of Magnaflows

This should be interesting

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>>16582991
I remember seeing the yellow dented 924 guy on the very first /pog/. Did he ever show up again?

>>16624397
not sure, don't think so.

>>16622121
hah! i thought so. should be fine though.

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>>16624653
My god those are beautiful.

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Holy shit, why is this general so slow when someone isn't shitposting and insulting everyone?

>>16626759
Actual Porsche owners are too busy driving their cars, working, and living their lives

>>16626759
>Literally the most expensive general on 4chan/o/
>thinking it would be super active

Go to Rennlist if you want to talk Porsches

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paycheck gone in 60 seconds kek

>>16626792
>go to Rennlist
>"Gotta pay P money to drive a P car"
>boomer tells me the only exhaust I should put on my $5000 Boxster should be a $2500 Fabspeed kit

>>16627385

fabspeed sounds great

but god fucking damn they're so expensive

i can't believe people buy that shit.

>>16627385
The only person worth a damn on Rennlist is van svenson. But he is mostly a 944 guy.

https://youtu.be/hAPqGi3ryL0

>>16591835
i've removed the muffler off my 986 before and they sound great. Just make sure to rotate the pipes connecting the muffler to the secondary cats around so they arent pointing towards the interior of your fender.
have them point to just below the muffler and it'll be golden.

>>16627385
Can't help you with a Boxster but I have an inconel 625 exhaust being manufactured and shipped this week that is going to drop about 38ish pounds off the ass end of my 996T. Shit was expensive but supposedly doesn't drone even without cats (which mine will not have). Can't fucking wait!

>>16628172
This.

Guy is an autistic genius

Good tutorials as well

>>16628172
Nice

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She's done! i am so happy.

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>>16631352
Looking lovely, Anon.

Also speaking of 944s, am I the only one who has a massive hard-on for those center taillight panels?

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>>16631365
Thanks!

And yes they are totally the tits. But I am a sucker for light bars

>>16631352
Looks awesome, gg. The antique vehicle license plate is always a lovely thing.

>>16632785
Hell yeah it is, no state inspections or personal property tax. Besides of course looking sweet

Bamp

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Got the headers and A/O separator in place. Thinking about painting the headers before I get too deep into it. There's some open metal spots where I dremeled parts off, would painting it protect it? And how long would generic engine paint last on these?

>>16634564
It certainly wouldn't hurt them, but as far as how long it lasts I couldn't say.

>>16634564
Probably a good idea to use high temp paint to protect from rust

>>16631352
>>16633087
I had considered getting those, but here in PA a friend told me that he got in trouble cause a local cop noticed him driving it frequently, and if you have antique plates you can only drive it one day a week. He was forced to put regular plates on in the end. I DD my 944, so I didn't want to deal with that issue if it arose. Other people have told me that no one cares, but that cop is still sitting at the same place every morning on my daily commute...

>>16636962
Yea it can be tricky. If you want to DD it the only benefit to getting antique plates is the one time tax. In VA you can DD antique plates only if you get a yearly inspection.

Otherwise it's limited to one or two days a week (basically read no driving to work) and no farther than 250 miles away from home. You have to prove that you own another vehicle with normal tags. My 44 is a track build so it lives in a garage and will get trailered back and forth. So for me the limitations aren't bad.

Not sure how it differs in PA.

>>16638427
PA laws are very similar when i looked them up. The thing is mine is used for both DD and occasional track use... but it's got some rust on the frame that's questionable and the previous owner did work to it that's not exactly gonna pass inspection here, so I have to take it to a local shady mechanic just to pass inspection. I'd like the plates just to not worry about inspections.

>>16631365
Is that a Turbo?

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>>16639340
Think of it like an M sport package.

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Late night bump

>>16640172
Of course it's gonna be bought up by some Saudi prince

What the fuck happened with the value of 944s and 928s skyrocketing all the sudden? I bought a 944 S 6 years ago at 100k miles on it for 3.5k with decent body/interior, now I see normal 944 selling for 4-5k with high mileage and garbage interior/body. Also it's fucking impossible to find manual 928, want one so bad and have the money

>>16640873
I'm guessing they started to get rare because so many bought them as projects only to realize they couldn't afford it, and they're now old enough to be retro cool.

>>16640172
It's pretty ugly.

>>16640877
Feelsbadman I sold that one I had for 1k...started acting up toward the end and I was tired of dealing with it. I should have asked for more, it had a s2 swap in it.

>>16640745
>>16640883
Isn't it awful.

>hey Amir! Check out my convertable gt3 with the wrong size wheels

>>16640873
Where are you? I bet we can find you a 928.

As far as the 44's go, my guess is like the e30's they are being gobbled up by racers and so unmolested cars are getting less common.

>>16640172
>>16641070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y

I would still kind of want it though.

>>16641094
Ohio, Ive seen a couple go up in nky before but either s1-s2 or automatics. I'm looking for a s4 manual preferably that isn't 10k.

>>16641070
>and awful color combination

>>16641330
https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1987/porsche/928/100770874
In Tennessee but I don't know enough to be sure that's an s4. There is an 86 s2 for 12k on that same site

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HON HON HON

>>16642172
>"y-you're taking me for a ride anon-kun??"

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So /pog/, why did it fail?

>>16644309
It came out around the time the Boxster was teased as Porsche's new entry level car

And why the fuck would you spend $40k on a 25 year old platform with a 4 cylinder engine when a brand new mid engine platform with a flat 6 is just around the corner?

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>>16644376
Pic related

>>16596255
Pleb tier cad work m8

>>16644376
>25 year old platform
That's the actual answer. It was their final form.

Also several died before they were even 10 years old.

I love my 968.

>>16647672
I probably love your 968 too

>>16642172
Merci Twingo!

>>16644309

one of the guys that goes to the porsche specialist i take my 986 has one in dark blue

its pretty neat, inside it feels so 90's compared to my boxster, but strangely comfortable and simple aswell.

I also found the fucking massive rear wiper motor hilarious, it's a massive box in the corner of the glass, with nothing else near it.

>>16647672
>>16648033
I love all of you

>>16640172
Are convertible GT3s even a thing?

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968 Cabriolet

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>>16653948
One's always parked near my college, it's actually a pretty sleek machine. Pic related.

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>>16653654
no you dumbfuck.

>>16655421
Lovely

>>16655471
Apologies for not memorizing every God damn variant of the 911

>>16600902

my guess would be that they weren't selling anything. i live in canada and i think they dont have long left here

>>16584676
the perfect automobile.

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What the actual fuck happened to 928 prices?

>>16657334

later ones have always been very pricey

early ones are always as low as 5k.

>>16658750
>>16657334
Pretty much this, getting a funcional S4 for ~7k is my current stretch goal.

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>>16655932
you dont have to memorize it.

Why the fuck would Porsche make a car that's made strictly for the track, a convertible?

It's common sense really.

>>16659470
Because Arabs

>>16659498
what's with these arabs rich means? even india has more billionaires than arabs, the majority of rich people in dubai are not arabs

>>16659498
youre not making any sense the car here isnt even a real GT3.

if you want a fast convertible from Porsche you buy a 911 turbo S which is plenty fast

>>16659517
>>16659540
Saudi princes and shit don't make sense

>>16644384
I forgot how much they were going for the 550 with that concept.

>>16660861
It's a shame they didn't stick with it

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hello /pog/
I was wondering if I would be able to fit in a 996 or later 911 or any model Cayman
im 6'8"

>>16662674
I'm 5'10" and need to move the seat all the way back and telescope the steering wheel forward to fit comfortably in my Boxster

But later model cars might be different, best way would be to sit in one and see. Pretty sure seats in 911s can go back farther than Boxsters or Caymans

>>16662674
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-and-boxster-chat/7712-tall-65-250lb-feel-confy-cayman-wow.html?s=7b062c28b582964eb264a36bc6af4c4d

google is your friend

>>16662674
>>16662713
This

At 6'8 I think the cayman is probably out, but you should feel ok in a 996 or 997. The steering wheel is kinda low tho.

Go for a couple of test drives

>>16662713
Is it a 986 / first gen Boxster? The seating room in there is probably similar to the 996, methinks.

>>16662713
>>16662734
>>16662737
>>16662739
thanks friendos, ill look more into it

>>16662739
Yeah a 986, but the 996 has back seats and more room for the seat to slide back. The seat in my car goes right up against the rear firewall

>>16662739

I had a tall friend (around 6'2) sit in my boxster and he couldn't fit comfortably. his legs were touching the steering wheel with the seat all the way back.

>>16664361
>6'2"
>tall

Manlets, when will they learn?

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Is there anyone on this board that owns a GT3?

>>16665705
Lol no, even a 996 GT3 costs well over $60k
It just makes more sense to get a 996 Turbo, and there are at least 2 anons that own those

>>16665705

an anon's dad owns one and a couple other very pricey porsches.

You're thinking way out of budget for the average guy on /o/, letalone the average porsche owner.

there's a guy with a 356C which is worth around as much though.

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>>16665867
>>16666021
I understand how much they cost and the average /o/ user

still its possible that someone on here could own one.

>guy with 356c

yeah i remember that old dude. He said he's own a bunch of Porsches if I recall correctly

>>16666110
He said he raced a 914 with a 2.7l from a 911

>>16666110
I don't think we have any gt3 owners, we do have yellow 991 guy though.

Myself and another guy have spec 944s as well.

Some of us have money

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>>16582991
Should I get this, a BMW 1 series. or a Jetta?

>>16669337
a jetta you fucking idiot, you're clearly broke and need something that doesn't cost you 400 dollars to get an oil change

>>16669337
miata

>>16669459
>Boxster
>$400 oil changes
lol wut?

It costs me 55 canuck bux tops and needs to be changed every 24,000 kms

>>16669522
worked at a porsche dealership. dude is in the market for a 20 year old porsche, he probably works at mcdonalds and will be taking it to the stealership, and if not, guaranteed he doesn't know how

>>16669557
lel it's just an oil change dude. And there are plenty of guides on sites like PelicanParts and Pedro's Garage on how to wrench on these cars

>>16669459
>>16669472
>>16669557
/pog/ is usually a friendly place, what gives?

>>16669779
I doubt they're actual owners and have no idea what they're talking about

>>16669557
Sure you did buddy

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My 951... Gone but not forgotten

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>>16669337

i daily a 986 S

400$ oil changes are a meme, so is any kind of expensive maintenance.

I have owned both audis and BMW's in it's price bracket and so far the porsche has been the cheapest german car to maintain i've ever owned.

I would only trade my 986 for a 135i, any of the other cars are shit.

keep in mind that with the 986 you will not get any of the tunability or real aftermarket for the car. You can literally count the mods you can do to a porsche with a single hand, desnorkel, LWFW, 987 intake, plenum.

FI is out of the question because noone does it and it's cheaper to literally fit an ls1 in the car.

also don't forget 986 in general have open differentials, if it matters to you. You can get a quaife lsd for around 1k.

>>16672794
Does the 986 S not have an lsd option? I know it's an option on the 911s

>>16672977
I think later generations do

>>16672977

Not even an option.

On 987's and 981 it was an option.

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>>16673317
>>16673129
>>16672977
Can't afford to make them too fast, that'll upset the 911 crowd

Meanwhile at RUF...

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>>16673129
>>16673317
Interesting
>>16673851
Yum

>>16672618
What an ugly piece of shit. Glad you got rid of it.

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>>16675046
Mududlydupdap SPOILER WING MU MUH MUH BIG FAT WING YEAH BABE PORCHE

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Sooooooooooo reliable!!!!!

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/911-gt3-recall-update-porsche-reportedly-replacing-all-engines

>>16676203
>>16676205
>>16676209
found vendetta anon

>>16676209
>>16676205
>>16676203
Were you molested by a Porsche as a kid?

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The new main
>>16676203

>>16678695
Mmmmmm...

>>16678695
T H I C C
H
I
C
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my poster

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Almost done on the engine rebuild of
>>16617033

Anyone have experience torqing down the head nuts? Some of the nuts feel more loose than others, but my torque wrench says they're fine. Should I be concerned??

>>16676673
i think hes mad he cant even afford a $3k 944.

Out of his 2k civic budget.

>>16679786
Haven't done it myself yet but I wouldn't be too concerned if you trust yourbtorque wrench.

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/cyl-02.htm

Cheapest way to get into a reliable porsche?

(in australia or i'd be getting a 914)

>>16680274
>Cheapest way to get into a reliable porsche?
>in australia

Move out of Australia

>>16680940
Despite some pretty commie-tier legislation, i haven't found somewhere else i'd rather live. Seems like i won't be joining the Porsche club any time soon then.

>>16680955
Canada? Pretty similar except you trade venomous everything for the cold and road salt half a year

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>>16678695
Sweet, 928 is my dream Porscher and that blue is pure icing on top of the cake.

>>16672618
Your 944 was also great, fuck the haters.

>>16678695
Wacky exhaust angles are my fetish.