Lights

For what application?

>>16578199
I drive a Jeep and go off road a lot

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>>16578218
LED, definitely

Takes a beating way better, doesn't have bulbs that burn out unless its chinkshit-quality, more light per watt, less heat, easier to hook up

Negative stuff is that due to lack of heat it can ice up if you're driving in snow

What're you buying, lights or doing kits into the original lamps?

>>16578231
Was looking at just the lights

>>16578247
LED is still better

Even so, you get much more/better light from something like a LED-bar

>>16578288
Thanks...the bar is coming not too long after

>>16578314
Make sure you get a proper conversion kit tho, with bulb coolers and all. Dont get the cheapest of the cheap

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at the current price, HID

>>16578196
there are brotruckers who drive around with their LED light bars on in my town, so I'd assume they help you see really well.

>http://www.news-medical.net/news/20170127/Light-emitted-from-digital-screens-can-cause-irreversible-damage-to-eyes-research-shows.aspx
JUST

>>16579281
Oh wait, that one just says screens...
>http://www.livescience.com/31949-led-lights-eye-damage.html
>prolonged, continuous exposure to this light - from computer monitors, mobile phones and television screens or indoor and outdoor lights - may be enough to damage retinas, she said.
JUST...

>>16578196
Depends on the application and lense.


Some factory stock lenses don't diffuse properly with some Led replacement bulbs.

>>16578231
>praising LED
>tons already burned out

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While this thread is alive,

Anyone got a fav LED conversion for 9006 style bulbs? Looking to upgrade soon and there's sooooo much chinkshit to wade through

>>16578218
LEDS
E
D
S

BIG WIDE THICC LIGHTBAR KGO

>>16578196
The one that isn't installed on the lifted Jeep behind me, flooding my interior with light and blinding me

>>16579683
I have 9006 leds with the heatsink attached to the light.. dunno where they're made they are just too freaking bright. And the bulbs are in such a way that I cannot set my headlights like normal so they're pointing right at other drivers. Went back to halogens

>>16579636

That's what happens when you skimp out and don't get Rigids.

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>>16578231
>doesn't have bulbs that burn out unless its chinkshit-quality

But your lightbar already has so many LED all burned out already. How many hours have you turned on the LED lights?

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>>16579636
>>16581288
>doesn't have bulbs that burn out unless its chinkshit-quality

3 month old bar, $110 total with shipping and 25% tax. Shit tier

>>16580035
Funny you should mention that. Look what I just finished mounting & wiring

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>>16579636 #
>>16581288 #
I probably should have added "like the one I currently have" after chinkshit quality

They were probably eBay, but I hated the HIDs that came with my car. They were also in the stock reflector housings so they weren't up to their full potential. Eventually got projector housings and LEDs and love them.

>>16578196
>LED vs. HID....which is better?

LED headlight bulbs are not one single light source unlike HID or halogens. If you look closely, you see a bunch of separate LED lights mounted on a stem. So that LED headlight may dim a little after a few months of night time use just like >>16578231 or >>16581288 as some of the individual LED lights burn out.

That's what happens with cheap LED that didn't get a burn in test.

>>16581499
>3 month old bar, $110 total with shipping and 25% tax. Shit tier

Wouldn't your cheapie bar actually be cheaper than Rigids (especially if a few in Rigids burn out too) if you bought two cheapier bars? Then as the individual LEDs burned out, you'd unsolder them from the spare bar and replace them? I'm assuming the individual LEDs are in their housings, so it is their housings you unsolder and resolder instead of those delicate LED chips.

LEDs are great and can compare to OEM HIDs if they're stock from factory.
And by that I mean they need a proper glass prism projector to actually have the same range.

i just bought top of the line halogen bulbs for my car, i'm sure the oem hid housings+bulbs are expensive as fuck

>>16579281
this is such fucking horseshit

the amount of light we are exposed to on a sunny day is magnitudes higher than anything we see on a screen

fuck this article

>>16582402
It would be cheaper, but the Rigid has much better lighting and a five year warranty

Looking forward to the drive home now. 75km in pure darkness... hope it aint foggy as fuck

>>16582509
It's not the light but the amount of UV. The screen is also close to the face and is emitting the light. Outdoors, you are seeing reflected light and that is quite different because the UV was absorbed by the objects (unless it was snow).

>>16581513
Rigid is so expencive

>>16578231
I've had a chinkshit light bar I bought for 50 bucks for over a year and all the leds still work. Anyone who buys a rigid is a chump.

led niqqa

>>16578231
Is that just an array of 10mm LEDs?

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>>16583457

Enjoy your 200 lumens.

>>16582402
>especially if a few in Rigids burn out too
That never happens.

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Light bars.

>>16583624
Lord have mercy

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>>16578196
>LED vs. HID
Mercury vapor Fluorescent is where it's at.

>>16583612
I'll just buy two and still have spent less.

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>>16583731
You can buy fucking 30 light bars for the cost of a Rigid.
I'm not even joking right now.

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>>16583767
Oops, they got cheaper since I last looked. 36, you can get 36 light bars.

The ones that aren't aligned to blind oncoming traffic and the interior of the car in front of you. Get your eyes tested first you stupid cuntbags

>>16583782
Rigtards will still try to justify their purchases

>>16583717
can second this. inb4 pollusions

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>>16583577
Might've just been something they salvaged from Fisher Price toys, given the quality

>>16583423
>>16583457
>>16583767
>>16583782
>>16583789
SUCK MY 50" RIGID

I have the Rigid Radiance 50", which is a lot cheaper than their "tradtional" products like the SR/SR-2 series and the E/E2-series. You really dont need those tho if you can fit a Radiance 50", which is fucking plenty

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>>16583881
>400 dollars

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>>16583899
Shush, when you drive as much in the dark as I do its worth every dollar

And it was more like $740 due to norwegian prices & tax

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>>16583907
How do you stop people from stealing your Rigid 50-incher when you drive to a store or mall parking lot? They don't make anti-thief condoms that big.

>>16584636
they have guns in Norway

>>16584653
>they have guns in Norway
They have guns in the USA too but that doesn't stop the thieves. And you use a gun then you end up "guilty" for shooting.

>>16584636
Dunno about him but I just welded the bolts once I got it adjusted right.
Just takes a grinder to get it off, but ain't no nigger got time for that

>>16584636
everyone deserved that, follow the rules of the road

>>16578196
Whatever is stock.

>>16584636
Eh, I'm not worried; stuff like that doesn't really happen where I live

>>16585757
What did the truck do to deserve that?

>>16578369
they fucking suck unless theyre factory self leveling adaptive units

>>16583624
>traveling down country road
>no reflective center line
>thick fog
>this monster comes from behind a hill with highbeams and all light bars on

what do

>>16586639
Pass onto the other side and stop

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>>16582509

>>16585757
some defensive driving, im sure he and the brotruck were thumbs uping each other. ease of the gas and create a gap

>>16583767

An LEDfag who runs a flashlight/LED parts site called mtnelectronics is now making his own light bars that RAPE Rigid's overpriced crap.

Rigid E2
50 inch
24000 lumens
$1800

MTN 12
12 inch
27500 lumens
$465

Literally a quarter the cost, and a quarter the size for the same brightness.
http://mtnlitebar.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=63

>>16584636
Benz doesn't live in nignogville so he's gonna be fine

>>16586981
>implying lumens alone give you range

>>16587246

And how the fuck did I imply that you fucking moron?
Could you project your own narrative any harder?

Who the fuck uses LEDs for range anyway?
If you want range get HIDs.

>>16586981
Alright. You buy that one, send it to me and I'll run a detailed comparison on it vs. my 50" Rigid Radiance

>>16586981
I'm seeing some additional weird stuff.
Calculating the watt vs bulbs he is running 13.5w bulbs. These can get quite hot and it would not be a good idea to put them in such small housings/reflectors.

No breather/pressure valve.

1 year warranty

Honestly, if this guy made 13 inch bars that beat E2-50s he'd get a job as top designer over at Rigid or Lazer

LED is solid state. Not prone to failure like HID or halogen for that matter.

HIR are better than either LED or HID.

Never heard of them? Look into them. It's what they use on heavy equipment like bulldozers and shit that still needs to be productive during the nighttime.

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>>16579683

http://www.rallylights.com/

Give these guys a call. They make custom wiring harnesses for you car and can give you some great suggestions about what to run to modernize your lighting system.

This guy: http://danielsternlighting.com/ has some really good info about why you want to upgrade your wiring to make sure you are getting full voltage to the lights and why LEDs are a bit of a meme.

I have a 1988 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park and I got a new harness and new hella H4 housings. I cannot believe what a difference it makes to have a modernized lighting system, and that is still with the stock bulbs the housings came with. And the harness was completely plug and play with good wire and ceramic plugs.

>>16587442
HIR is shit compared to LED. And you can barely get real HIRs anymore. Just Phillips junk branded as HIR.

>>16587391
The guy isn't really doing rocket science here.
I would assume he's just taking apart a light bar and soldering on high power leds for a flashlight or something, as well as upping the driver circuit.
Yeah, there's a bit of heat there, but when you look at the cooling for a 3 led flashlight, light bars have way more dissipation, despite having 6 times the LEDs.
It is a 5 year warranty, but past the 1st year, buyer pays shipping and labor.

>>16586981
>flashlight/LED parts site called mtnelectronics

Thank you for letting us know about such a site. I had no idea there was such variety and better pricing. Because it is a USA hobbyist that started reselling the high quality parts as well as machining his own flashlight parts, the quality is high and the risk is gone.

Before, buying parts from aliexpress could result in low quality parts, but since mtnelectronics checks the parts and doesn't buy from trash sellers, they have basically "vetted" the parts for me. And that's what I want. Some sort of known floor to the minimum quality level.

Mtnelectronics also sells empty flashlight casings into which customers can pick and choose LED, drivers, and parts. That's because a lot of parts are manufactured to fit in various standardized flashlight cylinder sizes. In some cases, some sanding of the edges of the PC board with the driver electronics is needed. But people have been able to make extra bright "sleeper" flashlights.

www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=66&product_id=583

>>16587391
>Honestly, if this guy made 13 inch bars that beat E2-50s he'd get a job as top designer over at Rigid or Lazer

Maybe if Rigid were interested in making the best lights possible, but they're not, they're interested in making the most profitable lights possible, by using huge arrays of cheap shit LEDs.

Rigid's 50" lightbar uses 108 LEDs to get 24000 lumens.
That's only 222 lumens per LED. That's what $5 eBay Chinese flashlights put out.

The MTN bar is 1145 lumens per LED, which is what you actually get from high end LEDs driven at high current.

And when I say "high end LEDs", it's a Nichia 219c.
What do Rigid use? They don't tell you, because they just use cheap Chinese shit.

I don't want to shill for MTN, because the guy comes across as a bit of a dick on BudgetLightForum, but the product he's selling is infinitely better than Rigid. Rigid is all marketing, MTN is proper quality autistic LED/flashlight nerd shit.

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>>16586981
>>16589545
... do I smell advertisement?

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>>16578196

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>>16589561

>>16589554

First post is me.

Second post admittedly sounds shill as fuck.
>not sure if it was sarcastic, an aspy, or a shill.

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>>16589568
Halogen VS LED

Halogen:
>brighter hotspot resulting in longer distance lighting
>sharp cutoff allowing distance lighting without blinding traffic

LED:
>reduced light throw due to dim hotspot
>brighter foreground causes eyes to adjust and everything to appear darker
>lack of cutoff throws light into eyes of anyone in front of vehicle

>>16578196
Sealed beams.

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>>16589589
Top to bottom:
Halogen
Morimoto 2 stroke LED
HID

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HID bb

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>>16589594
>LED advertisement proves itself false

This whole thread screams shills.

>>16578196
>driving at night with low beams
>car coming up, looks like he has brights on
>what a cunt
>flash him because im in a bad mood
>he opens the other end of a black hole and blinds me with the collected light from a swallowed galaxy

i can never tell when you guys are being pricks on purpose or just incidentally

>>16578196
Best to worst, top to bottom.

HID in projector
LED in LED specific housing
HIR in projector
Halogen in projector
HID in reflector
HIR in reflector
Halogen in reflector
LED in reflector

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>>16589589
>lack of cutoff throws light into eyes of anyone in front of vehicle
OEM headlamps follow SAE standards as listed in the north american federal safety standards rules. That means low beams must have asymmetric light throw (see example picture) as indicated in:

FMVSS / CMVSS 108
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Motor_Vehicle_Safety_Standard_108

Yeah, yeah, who cares, we all gonna LED it up however we like it. Imma gonna turn on my LED lightbar in front of the cop an he gonna be so blind dis monkey gonna git clean away fore he can see wear I gone.

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>>16589980
That's a gr888 idea

Rear facing LED light bars so bright that cops can't read your plate cuz they getting raped in the eyebollz by ur SEMENZ LUMENZ

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>>16589561
>>16589568
>>16589589
>>16589594
Try a proper led.

>>16589631
Hahaha

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>>16589631
We dont really want to, but on the inside we enjoy it a tiny bit

Mind you, I'm on about people not turning their own high beams off, not having my own lights improperly set

>>16585724
>Dunno about him but I just welded the bolts once I got it adjusted right.

That works as long as the thief doesn't have a bolt cutter that can nibble away at any cross arm. In the USA, thieves aren't polite about causing collateral damage when trying to remove things quickly.

I occasionally see "loiterers" with backpacks that are stretched out "vertically long" as if there is something long, thin and heavy inside the backpack. A boltcutter or crowbar could be such a thing inside the backpack.

>>16590887
>Try a proper led.
It seems LED bars get range not by better focusing like HID or halogens, but by throwing brute force lumens. When seeing them in person, they seem so much harsher.

>>16592903
Not so much, it has a lot to do with the how each small reflector is formed, and ofcourse the power of the bulb itself

You can find bars consisting of 100 x 3W bulbs having better range than a 60 x 5W bulbs and so on

>>16592034
Don't have a cross arm. Mounts straight to the bumper with brackets that follow the bar. You wouldn't be able to cut it off with bolt cutters. They would either have to damage the light itself to the point where it's worthless, or get out a grinder.

>>16586349
Even then they're almost always aimed too high by default and drivers don't realise they can be adjusted.

>>16593280
>You wouldn't be able to cut it off with bolt cutters.
That's excellent then. Bolt cutters are a chronic problem in the USA. Way too many thieves or homeless have access to one and use them to get into places or take things out of trucks even in the daytime parking garages.

>>16589604
No. I'm actually learning a lot about LED lights that I didn't know before and where to get them. I really like that mtnelectronics site. It's something I've wanted but never could find before.

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2017 Camry SE (yes I am that cuck who pays cash for a sport trim family sedan)

55W 6000K HID in le low beams, in proyyector lenses (they are the outermost bulbs).

3000lumen 6000K LEDs (Cree XHP-50 diodes) in le high beams, middlemost bulbs.

JDM ASTAR (Amazon brand) LED switchbacks in the foglight looking position (they're actually turn signals), alternates b/w 6000K white as a running light and amber for the turn signal

>>16590887
>no cutoff line
>overpowering foreground light
You're not helping your point.

>>16592903
That's because the optics used for most LEDs are complete trash, so the only way to get more light where you want it is to just up the lumens and hope some the extra output gets to where you want it. Makes for an inefficient use of lumen output that can result in decreased performance even with more light. That's why HID is king for long range lighting. LEDs find their niche in flood lighting and signal lighting which don't require any real control over the pattern.

>>16596204
>That's because the optics used for most LEDs are complete trash

The highway patrol will issue "fix it" tickets if they see out of spec LED lights. Too many drivers in the opposing lane get blinded by the indiscriminate lights that aim a lot of light on the other drivers, thus ruining their night vision.

>>16578247
Dropping LED bulbs into the original reflector is nigger tier. It provides shit light field and blinds everyone.

>>16595883
That is fucking off the charts pathetic.

>>16586981
I guarantee those lumen specs are bullshit made up or "calculated" numbers rather than actual measured output.

>>16595883
>6000K
K
Y
S

Get warm white or even neutral white lights faglord

>>16597751
Overdriven LEDs also lose some brightness when lumens are remeasured after 20 hours usage.

>>16598433
I remember how LED TVs would be really bright, but a year later, the same TV seems a lot less brighter than it used to be. Maybe in some TVs the LEDs are overdriven in order to provide a selling point in the store display.

It would be up to users to measure the amount of LED "fade" after a month of use to see how accurate the advertised lumen output actually is.

>>16578314
auxbeam.com
check em

>>16598515
I've seen this with all my LED TV. They are bright at the beginning, but as time goes by, it's like the LED wears out because it gets dimmer at the same light level setting.

I guess LEDs do wear out over time and get dimmer.

>>16600852
Yes they do
http://www.digikey.com/en/articles/techzone/2012/feb/understanding-the-cause-of-fading-in-high-brightness-leds

>>16600866
Thank you, that was very helpful in verifying that the LED problem was not a figment of my imagination. Lots of other people were telling me I was imagining things since LEDs last almost forever.

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>>16586349
Nah. Aftermarket projectors are good enough.

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>>16578196
halogen or xenon
led flickers too much anyway

>>16587365
>You buy that one, send it to me and I'll run a detailed comparison on it vs. my 50" Rigid Radiance

If Rigid is a "standard" in the industry and other lightbars try to emulate the same outer dimensions, have there been any types of exterior lenses to be fitted onto the lightbars in order to change their focal point or dispersion?

>>16578196
LED has shorter dropoff and blinds oncoming traffic. Sometimes the light is too luminescent that it whites out the lane lines on concrete highways. Almost all newer production cars from the last 5 years have LED now.
>>16589980
And ironically they don't have that beam configuration like most cars from the 90's.
>>16603230
Even driving with lights too bright is actually harmful for darkness adjusted vision and awareness.

>>16586146
I believe driving 55mph in the left lane on a road with a higher limit. Class A and B trucks are supposed to be limited to drive 55mph, so matching their speed is entirely pointless.

>>16606853
>Sometimes the light is too luminescent that it whites out the lane lines on concrete highways
>light is too luminescent
wut
You mean the pattern isn't controlled properly, it has nothing to do with being "too bright"

>>16606853
>Sometimes the light is too luminescent that it whites out the lane lines on concrete highways.

When the LEDs are both too strong and too "white", the white light glare from the concrete can be too similar to the light coming back from the white stripes. Thus it is hard to see the white stripes.

I can imagine that occurring in the rain too.

Instead of getting those ultra harsh bluish LED in the 6000K range, get warmer whites in the 4500K range.

>>16608070
Would it work to put some orange/yellow plastic infront?

>>16589554
>do I smell advertisement?
No, people researching or customers who bought are telling others in here about what they found out. That's how the rest of us learn.

>>16578196
I still have yellow bulbs.

>>16593008
>it has a lot to do with the how each small reflector is formed
Does Rigid have road legal light bars? Or are all of them made for offroad use?

>>16611361
>road legal light bars
You're not asking to be used at all times, right? Surely you must mean lights that can be used but must be turned off for other road users, right??

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>>16611361
They do have those. We call them "E-branded" here, coming from the small E-stamp on the glass that all road legal lights need to have here in Europe

Due to restrictions on how much light you're allowed you wont find the stamp on anything bigger than their 20" bars.

Note; un-marked versions of the same bars are also cheaper

>>16578196
HID imo

nearly all led bars are too unfocused. having a trillion candlepower hit the ground in front of you and glare you to death doesn't do any good.

>>16579683
I hear that auxbeam kits are better than most, but they may still be shitty in terms of beam pattern

>>16578196
the one with 4000K.

>>16579683
See >>16589561
Upgrade to better halogens, HIRs, or HIDs.

>>16584636
>that webm
lmfao what an imbecile

Joke: mightyBenz's Rigid LED bars cost so much, I had to take out extra liability insurance just in case I might hit him.


>>16613633
Not that I do things like that, but chain reaction accidents are why I have more than the minimum liability insurance. If I cause an accident that damages the expensive cargo of a delivery van, delivery truck, or semi-tractor trailer, I could be sued for all those cargo damages.

>>16614430
>Joke: mightyBenz's Rigid LED bars cost so much, I had to take out extra liability insurance just in case I might hit him.
this is not the "ITT: We post like /o/ is an auto forum." thread

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>>16614430
I dunno, is $750 really that expensive for very high quality lights that you use nearly every day?

I could've gone full retard and gotten an RDS 54", which would've cost me $3440

>>16614475
Nothing wrong with posters from different backgrounds posting in here. It's also interesting to see different writing styles. I'm a bit tired of the "chatbox" type comments myself.

>>16589647
whole thread and only one good post

thanks anon

>>16615995
LED in halogen or HID projector should be just above LED in reflector.

>>16586349
So buy a car that had them from the factory you stupid fucking poorfag.

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I just ordered a 7000 lumen replacement bulb for my bike's H4 halogen. We'll see how it does. Cutoff is supposed to be identical to OEM on the low beam.

>>16616611
LED bulb****

>>16616611
>Cutoff is supposed to be identical to OEM on the low beam
All LEDs claim this, none have proved it. Anytime it's disproven, people just say you need different LEDs, no matter what LEDs you use.

The lumen ratings are also completely false 99% of the time.

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>>16616647
Guys on advrider have them and confirm. It's not from ebay, it's from Cyclops, and the kit is for my bike specifically.

Either way, I don't really care, it's a single bike headlight.

>>16616669
I've seen a ton of people "confirming" that LEDs have a great pattern. 75% either ignore requests for shots of the beam pattern or claim they'll wait until night and then never take them. The other 25% post them and are immediately shut down when everyone sees the shitty pattern.

The simple fact is that LEDs are by nature incompatible with existing optics for arc/filament style bulbs. Did you ever have the puzzle as a small child where you had to put the shape into the correct hole? The circle does not go into the square hole no matter how well engineered the circle is or which way you turn it.

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this may not be the right place for this, but does anyone know anything about zroadz bars? thinking about getting this grille, but i dont know shit about light bars

>>16578196
>LED vs. HID....which is better?
The light by itself is poor. Each needs a housing that can cause that light source to be better utilized.

>>16579295
>she

Discarded.

>>16616669
Angle it downwards you gigantic faglord.
You cunts blinding people deserve cars pulling out on you, no sympathy

>>16619122
>Angle it downwards you gigantic faglord.
In the USA, you may get ignored, but not always. Write three letters. One to your state DOT, one to your local police dept public affairs contact, and the other to your local state representative. This is not the national representative or senator. It is your state legislator for your district and those meet at your state capitol. They are the ones that handle complaints like local law enforcement.

You paid for all those as a taxpayer. So use them. They do work but it can take up to a few years because those people often do studies and wait for statistics to build up to verify what you claimed in your letter.

Never sound threatening in the letters. Stick to presenting problems and their descriptions. Be sure to indicate any other people who have been affected who are willing to also affirm the problem exists. If you write the letter like some hothead impatient crackpot, that is the label you will get in the computer. Once labeled like that, no one reads your letters because the computer will no longer forward your letters to the staff but instead route it to the form letter response dept.

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>>16584636
>mfw they signal before moving leaving the road

>>16620244
Write them about what?

>>16620943
That post was answering someone's complaint about people not aiming their LED down or in the legally required asymmetric lighting pattern. Ask for the law to be enforced because all the cheap chinese LED bulb replacements are over the legal brightness limit and shine right into the opposing lanes of traffic.

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>>16621038
Oh, makes sense. Should probably ask them to make meth illegal too.

>>16618779

t. neckbeard virgin

>>16619122

Do you realize that H4 is hi/lo ?

>>16621086
Not everyone has given up like you have. The system is far from perfect, but it is still far from disaster too. When enough people write it,, they take notice and then enforce the law as seen by comments in other forum sites.

You see that "I've given up" attitude in neighborhoods that start to go downhill. Some people stop taking care of things. Others still try to force themselves to have a positive outlook and their yards and homes show it.

>>16612784
do you really need a light bar on an Audi Q7 though? It already has LEDs/ HIDs that are the brightest/ most advanced in the industry

>>16578196
>>16578218
I put HID in my Gen2.5 Montero.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008YFU0I0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't know about Jeep housings but I aimed my headlights down a bit and I get great vis over stock without blinding people. I go offroad all the time too. For some reason my original headlights were dimmer than my 87 Gen1. I just threw the old headlights in the protective casings and put them in the glove box in case these ones go out. Customer service for that company is good too.

>>16622438
Nah, no "need", but a few extras make driving in the dark a lot more comfortable. A bit more length and a lot more width is usually what folks want around my parts

>>16621086
>makes sense.
The police aren't always around and thus citizen reports help identify where they need to go. The same thing about malfunctioning street light poles and other city devices. Get the pole number and visit the city website or facebook for utility services or police. A lot of towns make use of Facebook as their website since that company handles all the interaction and website management functions for them. It's a lot cheaper than if the city hired its own team of server managers and website designers.

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>>16597844
6000k is pure white.

I run 35w 6000ks in my car and they look OEM

>>16624465
Where's your license plate?

>>16624568
Kentucky doesn't run front plates. If have emissions.

>>16624580
Or*

>>16595883
Now see kids, you can tell this man is a retard by the way he says """"""""""""amazon brand"""""""""""
Amazon doesn't have a brand. Now this may sound autistic, but any grown-ass man worth his salt would have bothered to find out where his fancy new bulbs were coming from, and if they were worth spending any money on.
You have wasted your money, sir.

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>>16624465
>6000k is pure white.
No. It's cool not """"""""pure"""""""" it's cool

A headlight in the cool end of the scale is cancerous. You're a ricer cunt for having bluish lights.

>>16624879
Calm down Princess, your nostalgia the 80's yellow headlights and autism is showing

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>>16625056
Did someone say... yellow headlights?

>>16625102
They are neat tho. Very cool on Volvo and such

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>>16625118
Helps a fuckload in snowdrifts & fog I've been told, which is the reason I bought these snapon covers

>>16624465
>6000k is pure white.
6000k is teal with DC ballasts and cool white with AC ballasts.

Pure white is 4300k which also provides the most output.

>>16625140
Wouldn't snow easily get stuck on it? I doubt the little heat that the LEDs produce would manage to get to it.

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>>16625275
"""teal"""

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>>16625281
Thats the biggest issue with LED-bars for me, or atleast has been. My current one does produce quite a bit more heat than the previous chinkshit (pictured) one I had so we'll see how it deals when we get another proper snowfall & I'm driving

I think it'll do quite a bit better, especially with the better heating & also the flat surface

>>16625347
All forms of bluish head lights get you a "fix it" ticket here in washington state. They don't last long. And the shops all know not to sell illegal LED colors. But some still sell illegal lumen values for those that want the ultra bright spotlights replacements.

Apparently, some of those hand held spotlights used automotive bases for their halogen bulbs. So LED replacements worked just fine as replacements.

>>16625825
Yeah, shops in some states legit won't sell anything over 6000k. My State cares more about aiming. Has to be 2in lower than the headlight at 25ft. Which I do think aiming and housing is more important than color temp(within reason).

>>16625281
>Wouldn't snow easily get stuck on it?
Use synthetic wax on the surfaces and it will stay on the metal bar long enough to let bigger heavier pieces of coagulated snow crack and fall off.

Maybe that's bad logic, but I have noticed that ice doesn't stick to my waxed paint anywhere as much as if I have no wax on it. So I assume the same principle for light bar surfaces.

I assume that Norway's drivers already know what is the "best" wax for cold weather driving for which ice and snow has the least adhesion. Maybe put some of that on the light bar too. Just be aware of solvent creep because that has more chance to enter seams than water does.

>>16626469
Carnauba wax always seemed to come off easily while the synthetic waxes stuck on longer.

>>16625275
>6000k is pure white.
It's the harsh white that looks like LED lighting. But the 4500k is the better white that has far less directly viewed glare as well as less reflected glare from concrete.

It's not like 5 years ago when newbies liked 6000k lights because they were "modern LED". But LED is no longer fad new, so there's not value in having 6k lights as a way of showing off that the car has LED lights.

>>16579683
J W Speaker

>>16580035
Lightforce does a good LED bar

>>16585724
One of the sales reps had his lights stolen despite having security nuts on his vehicle. The cheeky bastards just took his bullbar entirely off

>>16624465
You're a genuine idiot. 4000-4200K is the universally accepted white. Anything around 6000K is almost blue.

Lrn 2 Blackbody Radiation

>>16629209
>The cheeky bastards just took his bullbar entirely off
They'll do that even in shopping mall lots.
Mexicans get under the higher slung SUVs. One cuts the front and the other cuts the back of the cat out with that slicing tool that looks like a chain. It is fairly quiet and any sound is covered up by a car idling nearby.

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Thinking of getting a set of these H4 130w rally lights for my car.

Can the standard wiring handle them?

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>>16630557
>Can the standard wiring handle them?
What if you write which car you've got?
Most likely they're not going to handle it.

I recommend you to run 12 awg wires directly from the battery through relays switched on/off from your old headlight wires.

What I recommend higher is installing auxiliary 'rally' lights. You may be troubled with the police running over powered bulbs also the headlight housing may not like the extra warmth from the bulbs

>>16580035

t. rigid shill

>>16630557
Wiring will handle it just probably

Your reflectors will live for about a week however

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>>16630834
just fine probably*, unless those wires only get a certain amperage due to a relay or something

I'd suggest what >>16630651 is saying; extra headlamps with its own relay and everything. 130w in those will also probably be too much, and you will almost certainly kill the reflectors.

75W HID kits in a 225mm lamp is good

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>>16630557
Your sealed environment was not designed for 130 watt bulbs and will overheat. Just because you can physically put something that makes a lot more heat inside that reflective heat retaining container doesn't mean you should do it.

Now waiting for someone to create "heat tube cooled reflector kits" capable of supporting such bulbs.

>>16631096
>not simply waiting for cooler bulbs

>>16630651
>>16630846
The car is a Peugeot 504 with the 2 Filament H4 bulb. Wiring is over 30 years old.
The bulbs it has now are pretty dim with a short throw and I can barely see unlit roads even with the highbeams on.

Auxiliary spotlights or retrofit HID systems are out of the question because annual inspections on vehicles with "veteran" plates are extremely strict.
Basically no modifications are allowed.

I have no idea what the standard bulbs draw.
I've found 100w/50w bulbs which probably are safe to use on the normal/low beam setting but not on the highbeams.

I think I'm going to go with a safe option like the 65w/55w Osram Nightbreakers.
If they don't put out enough light I'll try to figure out another solution.