Are autotragics really that bad?

No. The majority of places that use them have people cant afford auto. Its a dead, stupid technology that only has a purpose for sport/ nostalgia applications.

It only matters with rwd cars and drifting/racing.

Like 99% of drivers have front wheel or awd and the closest they get to racing is stoplights and onramp.

>>16577033
all you do is press the gas and the car changes gears for you, you can probably find a video of someone driving one and what you see is literally what it is. most enthusiasts prefer driving manual because they feel like they have more control over the car and its also cheaper to purchase and replace, which is why poorfags like me prefer them.

>>16577048
Yet I know many people who, given the choice between a manual and an automatic version of the same car, will always pick the manual. It's cheaper, and when you've been driving them since you first started driving, it really doesn't bother you too much.

I own an engine swapped rwd drift car.

I also own a Toyota Corolla for deliveries/uber. Unless you want to spin tires you may as well drive automatic. For the purposes of daily driving you don't gain anything from stick shift unless you are seriously about that life.

>>16577057
>cheaper to replace

Literally cheaper to replace autos most of the time because of availability. If my 4L60e dies in my corvette, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing a ZF 6MT

Old autos do, the newer ones aren't so bad. Try to get one with flappy paddles if nothing else if you're looking at auto only cars.

I've driven manual and auto, my current car is auto (was never offered in manual, E60 535D) and does not have flappy paddles. I'm looking to retrofit them. The gear changes are nice and quick but nothing beats being able to actually put it in the gear you want when you want it. But that changes again with the newer cars with DCT/DSG transmissions that change so fast it's unreal. But again it's still not a substitute for doing it yourself.

It doesn't bother me much though, because aside from knowing I can fit the paddles to mine, 9 times out of 10 I'm not pushing along as hard as I can doing mad skids around North Wales. If I'm just going to work and back I'm quite happy to let the car decide what to do for me.

>>16577072
>Literally cheaper to replace autos most of the time
Not in the UK it isn't

>>16577033
I have an automatic that has a fucked speed sensor and sometimes it would malfunction causing the speedometer to fly all over the place. That then caused the transmission to upshift and downshift all over the place while driving on the freeway.

Well its all personal preference but look at it this way: would you rather fap? Or get your dick wet? end result is same just one feels whole lot better.

>>16577033

>but they just look like they suck all the fun out of driving

Unless you are racing, I don`t see how driving can be "fun" or "entertaining". The obsession about manual gearbox looks plain stupid to me

>>16577033
I had an auto 3 series and I fucking hated it.
If you grew up on manuals autos are horrible.
Avoid if you can.

>>16577077
>the newer ones aren't so bad.
by what year do people mean that newer autos aren't so bad.

2005+? Or 2010+?

just got my license and thought I'd get a manual car, be a boyracer and go to trackdays and shit, but reality hits and lapping on a track is expensive.