/vgt/ - Volvo General Thread

How easy is it to wrench on a XC60/90? I love volvo, but I'm worried it'll be a pain in the ass to maintain compared to my camry, which is ridiculously simple

What volv/o/s are easy to wrench?

Haven't had a volvo yet but new v90 (not OPs crosstrek) looks mighty tempting. So few choices here in the states

>>16559256
Avoid pretty much any with a letter in the model except S90/V90 until '98, those are just rebadged 960s. 850 can be tricky and is wrong wheel drive, so 240/740/940 is choice; redblocks are cake. 960 has an inline 6 which is nice, but I don't have much experience with them.

>>16559256

Its nothing you'd want to wrench unless you have to.

Avoid early AWD like plague unless you are 100% its haldex and not volvo's own AWD system, they tend to destroy itself and turn into fwd only.

>>16559444
Uh what? I have a first gen s80 and it's easy as fuck to work on.

>>16559495

Dat timing belt tho.

>>16559520
Can't say it took more time than any other car with a transverse engine, but I'm not a mechanic so I spared a weekend for the job.

>literally the same inline4 for every car of the brand - the general

>>16559525

Fucking washer fluid bottle and servo triggers me eternally

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:smug:
Faster in a straight line than 99% of what I see on the road every day and it only cost 7k and yes of course it's the manual

>>16559461
Not that same anon but, I was looking at a 98 v70 GLT with an auto transmission, are you saying avoid and abort?

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>not getting an 850 for those i5 harmonics.

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03 V70 T5. 166K miles with zero issues. Pretty damn quick and amazing in snow. Obviously since it's a wagon, it's got a ton of space and I've slept in the back on many long road trips.

Hnnnnnnnng that turbocharged I5 is godly.

Also have an 07 XC70 and an 86 244DL. Volvo for life.

>>16559592

No it will work, as long as you except to do some maintenance like every other car. If i remember right early V70 is quite comfy.

>>16559529
Good thing its a fantastic i4

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>>16559692
I would but it's impossible to find them with black bumpers anymore, they're all faded to shit and look like ass. So instead I'm going to buy the exact same car but with body color bumpers and a rounder dashboard and headlights. Only a matter of time. For some reason the ones I find are always in too bad a condition, too far away or have the wrong engine or options.

>>16559703
I moved to college in one of those, my dad's at the time. One trip from home and one trip to IKEA and my entire room was done.

How are the 00-04 S40s? I hear mixed things, but they're common and cheap in my area (1.6~3k)

>>16559794
It's a mitsubishi carisma

My pops has a c30 and a s60 cross country, both are very sexy cars

>>16559763
Haha nothing like a trip to IKEA in a Volvo! Yeah I moved all my stuff up in one trip this fall.

>>16559794
>4 lug...

Is buying a used Volvo suicide? Assume I can't work on it except for super basic fixes.

I love the look and my neighbors Volvo is up for sale, but I have no experience with anything euro

>>16560058
Buying something other than a used Volvo is suicide.

>>16559572
>manual
Had to replace the slave cylinder on the clutch yet?

I have a S60R and trying to decide if I want to go beyond the suspension upgrades that I just did (25mm sways, front and rear upper braces) and get into the power game, or if that money would be better spent on new car with less potential wallet-fuck problems.

>>16559182
whi it looks like audi a6?

>>16559760
I used Forever Black on my V70 and it worked wonders. I would recommend washing the plastic very, very well, lightly sanding it, then washing it again with some degreaser. Then apply the dye. Two coats seems to do the trick.

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They can be annoying to work on at times, but parts are common, and the 850/S70's share most of their parts across the model years, so no shortage of parts and upgrades you can do with factory parts

>>16560121
I got it 5k miles ago and the angle gear already stripped. I'm replacing it for 1k and plan on selling it for (hopefully) 5k. Going to turn around a put that onto a 2016 civic. I had my fun but I really need a reliable daily driver in my life. Too poor to handle the problems that come with a R with 125k miles

>>16560863
Fucking angle gear. What year is your R? They beefed that shitty part up in 2006, and supposedly the ones made in the second half of the 2007 run, like mine, are a little more robust. Mine hasn't eaten shit yet, but I try to avoid hard launches.

Eventually I know I'm going to blow the engine or something. Hopefully it won't happen before the next-gen V60 Polestar arrives.

>2013 c30 t5
>Has every option possible.
>Manual transmission.

Drives OK.
The soft suspension is nice on the shitty roads.
It corners like garbage.
It accelerates fast because inline t5.
Have a roof rack, that's comfy for bike racks and Thule box.
Shit fits into the trunk pretty nicely.

>My stock FRS is much more fun to drive and actually puts a smile on my face.
>C30 is a much more practical car.

>>16559256
Avoid any cars from '01-'04
The Aisin AW55 transmissions used in that period are absolute shit and suffer numerous problems

>>16560058
Which Volvo
Some can be a breeze and some can be nightmares

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My '89 740 Turbo
Lotta fun, wish it wasn't an automatic but finding turbo+manual 740's is near impossible anywhere on this side of the US
Also daily an '02 XC70 which is having transmission problems because it never got a trans flush until 117k, love everything else about it but I feel like I'm walking on eggshells when driving it

>>16563489
Yeah. The only old XC90 worth getting is the one with the Yamaha V8. The TF80 transmissions on those sometimes have trouble with worn valve bodies, but that's about it.

Of course, being the best version of the XC90 (at least prior to the new ones, which are god-tier), they've held their value far better than other XC90s.

The T6 XC90s with the GM transmission are all to be avoided. Every last one. Just don't get the T6.

Hey guys... Do you wax your Volvo?

>>16564477
Just waxed mine last night using meguires synthetic. Wish i polished though, there's a good amount of light scratches all over the car.

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How are the new twincharged engines in the new Volvos, and transmissions, and so on?

I want to get one, but they sure as hell don't sound like they'll be reliable nor easy to work on.

>>16559182
>V90 Cross Country

What the fuck, I love Volvo now

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>it's not a real volvo

p-pls don't be mean to me

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Should it have looked like this instead?

>>16566116
Needs slightly less windshield slope for those lines to make sense, but I like it.

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So I helped replace a bulb on one of these today, and its brake lights are LED but everything else is incandescent.
Which got me thinking, would there be a market for LED retrofit kits that follow the lines in the glass, a bit like how the new Volvos do it?

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If I had to buy a new car, this would be it.

The only added options are the power outlet in the cargo area and window lamination. I'm a bit sad to see the gauge cluster is actually just a screen, but it's 2017 and almost all car makers are starting to make tha shit standard.

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Thoughts?

I recently saw a V90 at a local dealership and I liked it.

>>16566181
I'd get a v90 and a slight aftermarket lift instead.

The Cross country is super expensive, and I think the cladding ruins the looks.

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Hey /vgt/
My dad has a 96' 850 2.0 t5 originally from Italy with 211 horses and the B5204T turbo i believe. The turbo is leaking oil and gotta go, and we're trying to figure out wich turbo to get. Something that spools earlier would be nice, and maybe be able to squeeze out 250 horses after a tune. Any tips? Go for a stock one or get something else?

Does anyone of you have any experience with the m90 transmission, I heared the3rd gear syncro is a common failure

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>my current car
Why make the engine bay 90% plastic cover
why

>>16566704
Did you get your front brake pads changed when you last had your MOT?
What about that corroded offside rear brake line?

>>16566723
Well done, you can use the MOT history site!

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My '98 940 LPT.

I always had a fascination for Volvo's and I like the comfyness and room that the car brings.

I love Cruising in it and hauling shit.
It has power when and where I want it. But it's no missile. But thats my thing.

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>>16566108

V90 polestar tho

>>16566890
Are you dutch?

>>16566971
Yeah. Why?

>>16566948
is it bad i want this tuned and lowered like those 90s 855 BTCC cars?

>>16566995
He probably saw the tiny little sliver of yellow/blue through your license plate blocking efforts.

Nice car though.

>>16566046
Don't think enough have sold and had enough miles put on them to see. I really want to like them but no standard gearbox option and potential for being another disposable car worries me

>>16566686
M90's are about the strongest RWD transmission Volvo produced
M46's and M47's usually blow out 3rd gear if anything

>>16567006

No, this is completely normal.

>>16567046
>>16566686

I think there was an update in the M90 in the latest models that strengthened the 3rd Gear.

In '97 came the revision.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_M90_transmission

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>>16566948

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>>16559182
Muh safety

>>16567124
bondo and buff it out

>tfw saw a 95+ 960 wagon
>pretty rare here
>bumper taped on
>fender fucked
Tfw no nice volvo 960/v90

>>16567124
You know if the owner didn't put a pod filter on it and gain those extra 10 horsepower he wouldn't have ended up in a tree!

>>16566704
>Why make the engine bay 90% plastic cover

Because it deadens the sound of the engine without adding much weight - it's a big foam pad. Easy enough to remove if you're not too severely brain-damaged.

>>16567124
>all wheels still on the ground
You can basically drive away from the accident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7V-G3PiRUc

what the fuck do volvo make their cars out of

>>16567344
Supreme Swedish steel.

This video is actually how they make their sedans.

>>16567322
After 175,000 miles it doesn't work

>>16559495
I can second this. I have a first gen V70 and it is pretty easy and straightforward to work on

>>16559732
1st gen V70's are comfy as fuck. Seats are supportive and cushy and stock suspension has a good balance between sportiness and comfort.

>>16560058
From my personal experience, a used 240, 850, or early V70 are all fantastic cars to buy used. Even finding one for cheap that has been beat up is a good deal. Easy to work on and they will last you quite a while.

Does anyone have an experience with manual swapping a late model 850 or a 1st gen V70?

I currently have the auto in my 2000 V70 and while it works, I would much rather have the 5-speed since I went to this from my 5-speed Volvo 240.

>>16566670

The normal thing to do with an T5 would be to get a 16t from a later s70/v70. It was the stock turbo on the european 850R which is 250hp. It has a different exhaust flange though so you will need to get a different downpipe/exhaust or make it work yourself. BUT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE 2.0 and from that picture there is no intercooler or charge pipe that I can see. So I really have no idea what your car can use. If you showed me that picture I'd say it wasn't even turbod.

>>16567344

The funny thing is 850s are pretty soft compared to the older 240/940. The 850 actually feels a bit flimsy in comparison.

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>>16567328
Fuggg no wonder I can never find parts for my estate

>>16567897
...which further adds to my question. Wtf are these things made of

>>16567542
M56 trans swaps are somewhat common. I'm sure there are write-ups about it online, my friend put one into his 850R

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>>16568206

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>>16559182
>>16559182
>tfw no sweet swede hooner

>>16567542
Don't bother. Sell it and buy a manual one, 97-98 while you're at it.

Posted this in another thread. It its better here.

https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/5962336279.html

Do you think I can fit a 5.9l cummins into this? What sort of issues will i run into? Clearances? Drive parts?

Just so happens I have a standard tranny compact truck I could trade him.

Only discerning part is the front end issue.

I replaced the fuel pressure sensor in my Volvo t5, but i still get the hesitation start. Now what do i do?

>>16567344

I would've sent that thing back to the factory as defective for disobeying the laws of physics

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m'lads.

>>16569479
Don't have a decent picture of it on hand but I've also got a 99 S70AWD that I picked up for $300... just needed some minor things replaced, and it should pass inspection okay. Should make a nice and comfy cruiser. absolute steal.

>>16569108
I hope you are trolling...why would you ruin a perfectly good Volvo with a Cummins?

>>16569479

m'242

what year?

>>16570919
1979. the best year.

>5 panels
>single round headlights
>last year for Volvos glorious 70s color scheme

no turbo though... for now.

>>16569877
Murica!

I'm trying to get my mom to consider a V90 like in OP's pic since she wants something more capable than her aging Infiniti G37.

Is there any word on when the V90 CC will actually appear in US dealerships to test drive? She's mostly considering the new LR Discovery but I'm not a fan of the styling at all. Only other off-roadish SUVs I can think of other than the Range Rover/Land Cruiser (which are too big/expensive) is the TRD 4-Runner, but that car is pretty dated at this point.

/blogpost

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2008 c30t5
Love the car
Had a maf failure and a pcv failure
Maf was easy to fix myself, but the pcv has been annoying, lost some power and the dealership wants an arm and leg to fix it.
Been looking for some place online that ships internationally to huehueland without raping me on shipping / customs

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>>16559182
I bought it for reliablility and now it's dead and can't figure out what's wrong with it

>>16569108
well you're trying to fit a Cummins into a FWD Volvo
You're going to hit a ton of issues in clearances and drivetrain

>>16571053
This year I heard

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>>16571132
740 BRO
tell me your symptoms I'll try to help

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>>16567124

>>16566890
My nigga. 940 Polar here.

>>16571446
Started it early to warm up, ran for 5 min, died. Won't start up again.
No spark, new dist w/hall sensor, new ignition module, new coil, and wires. Plugs fairly new. Still no start. Pulled fuel line and tank pump fuse, put line in a can, turned over and no gas came out.

Swapped fuel relay with junkyard one, no change. Currently investigating the relay

>>16571755
fuel relay failures are super common but wouldn't explain no spark. There's a radio noise suppression relay that when bad will cause no spark, it can be swapped with an AC relay I think to diagnose. Both are under the hood. There are also two fuel pumps, one under the car and one in the tank, neither prime until the car cranks over but either being bad could cause issues

>>16559692
Is this a new meme? I swear there's been at least a half dozen i5 threads in the past month

>>16572057
Fuel relays are good, pumps good, inputs to the hall sensor are bad pointing towards bad icu.

>>16567873
Thank you m8. Imma be honest with you, i just pulled that pick off of google. Don't think you can see the turbo or any plumbing from that angle though, exept the airfilter box says TURBO.

>>16571012

I will admit, the dual round headlights are fairly decent, I absolutely fucking hated it when they switched to the ugly boxy ones.

>>16569443
Bump

>>16572153
I guess it's possible, just less common. What year is it/what fuel injection system is it using?

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>>16572902
oh yeah but what about when they're done like THIS

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>>16569443

Replacing fuel filter and cleaning injectors is always a good place to start.

>>16572739

Haha. That might be why it looks naturally aspirated.

>>16574353
86 with 2.2. Computer is 0280100544 jetronic. Been reading that they have a shelf life irrespective of miles, used is 40 bucks, reman is 400. Too bad because mine only has 109k

>>16572057
No rsr in 86, 87 was first model year for that

>tfw can't afford an s60/v60 polestar

Always wanted to do a 5.0 swap into an older 240.
Also kicking myself for passing up on the chance to buy a P1800 some years back. A friends father was selling his for $3500. It was in running shape, but did need some work.
> regrets

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>>16576354
> forgot pic

>>16574353
>>16572057
Computer out of an 88 240 fixed it, there are 3 interchangeable ones, 554,544, and 541, thank God the junkyard had one

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Hey guys in 2 years when my 940 is 25+ should I LS swap it?

>>16578446
>should I LS swap it?
how is this even a question

>>16578446
Fuck no. Get your Redblock on steroids and turbo'd up big time. It'll love you for it. And you wont regret it.

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>>16578497
I was thinking of putting the redblock in a 240 tho...

>>16578514
The Redblock/M90 combo is awesome. Get another Redblock for your 240 if you must. But make the block in the 940 beastmode. It's meant to be.

>>16578559
>tfw literally no m90's made it to my country

Trust me I've even looked at getting one imported

>>16578564
Thats a shame.
Do what you must then.

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18 year old student, saving for my first car.

Would a Volvo 240 wagon be a good choice?
if not, any recommendations?

Is manual swapping feasible? or should I just wait and try to find one with a manual in already? I'm willing to put in some money and time, if it is worth doing.

are the optional 3rd row seats useless?

Thank you.

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first Volvo, no bully pls

>>16579349
bully

>>16579349
neat

>>16579187
>18 years old
Hope you're OK with a hipster tax. Gas mileage is 20 if you're a good driver, so you'd better have a good job.
>Student
You'd better be comfortable with basic repairs and have a backup way to get to class. They're dependable cars but shit breaks when they get old. A buddy of mine has one of these, and had some wierd issue where the fuel pump fuse would blow when he was driving and stall him out. After a few hours of searching for shorts, we figured out that a wire in the steering column had worn through and was shorting the pump on the column when he turned a certain way.
>Manual swaps
Ehh, probably a little easier on these guys because of the large engine bay. If you have the time and money go for it but the 4 speed slushboxes are pretty fine.
>3rd row seats
Intended for kids, not a lot of leg room unless you splay your legs out across the trunk floor

>>16579349

Buy an older one.

>>16574362

dammit you win

>>16579717

>20MPG if you're a good driver

iirc it's 25-27>>16579940

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Hey I have a 960 diesel shitbox with 500000 km and I've always wanted to have a second volvo, preferably petrol straight 5 rwd, 850s are pretty rare in my country is there anything else I can buy or should I pony up and buy an estate 850 T5R, thanks in advance friends

>>16567124
straight quarterpanels are for waxqueers

>>16580704
850 is fwd, no rwd came with the 5cyl as far as I jnow

>>16581442
Oh, I see, rip dreams then, I don't want another fwd

>>16579940
My buddy has a P2 gen S60, but we plan on getting a 122 or 242 project car soon.

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>>16579187

If im not mistaken the auto is stronger than the manual on those though obviously the manual will be more fun if you can get a hold of one. The third row seats look kind of like a joke and are actually dangerous.

>>16580704

A lightly modified 940 turbo is as good as a T5-R. The highlight of the T5-R is its great for a stock car and rarity.

>>16578252
Old Volvois in rural areas get me hard

>>16579187

Look for '90 or later. Expect a lot of little broken stuff. Take it to a small volvo mechanic (not a dealer) and have him look it over. If you spend a few months looking you can probably find a manual. Yes it would be a good deal just don't expect to get chicks.

>>16580704
I was so asleep when I wrote this I didn't realize that I messed up and said I own a 960, I meant a 460

>>16576083
Running 2.2 Turbo at 93k miles right now, let's hope I don't find a similar fate lol

>>16576086
Just a shot in the dark, didn't know what year his was. Common problem on the cars that have them

>>16580428
On an N/A 240 automatic? Lol I got like 20 highway in mine
And they're slower than baaalls

>>16580704
Find a 960 then, DOHC I6 and I'm sure you got them with manuals in your country, basically a cheaper BMW

>>16584042
Believe it or not BMWs are cheaper over here

>>16584042
The 6 only came in Automatic, the 2.5 i5 is manual but that engine sucked.

>>16581710

I had a 144. So much fucking work. But rewarding knowledge gains.

>>16584032
It's a heavy car with a lil straight 4, what do you expect.