Fordshills BTFO

>muh numbers
But how is it to drive?

>faster than a 675LT with less power and more weight on worse tires
Ford is GOAT.

>>16553636
>in an uncontrolled test conducted by Ford
>on a track in bumfuck nowhere with no control times

>>16553645
Still faster.

>>16553633
at this level they're all really good and it's just splitting hairs

>>16553667
except its a ford and looks like shit

>>16553625
OK. Fact check time.
>638HP
True. Most sources put it right around 630 to 638
>Weigh 3000lbs
No. It's 2890

On a side note, Ford claims this go have the highest power to weight ratio of any car ever. Does the Koenigsegg 1 : one or whatever it's called not count?

>>16553685
They must only be counting among "major" manufacturers.

638hp and 3890lb is still pretty respectable.
It looks like it has good aerodynamics and really stiff chassis going for it, too. So I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms its power:weight like the Viper ACR does.
But whether it's actually faster around all these tracks than the Viper ACR is the real test.

>>16553685
>No. It's 2890
http://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/media-room/2017/01/ford-gt-delivers-highest-top-speed.html

Go read this link (source: Ford themselves), and it'll say:
>Ford GT’s dry weight just tops 3,000 pounds
So slightly over 3000 pounds dry, and well over 3000 wet/kerb weight.

>>16553633
>Mhu Feels
Go back to 86 threads.

>>16553754
Huh, alright, cool.
Looks like we'll have to wait for some magazines to get their hands on a car to get real life, assured numbers. Seems like every source is giving something different

>>16553750
Oh I'm sure it will be fast as all hell. And I'd bet you are right when you say only major manufacturers. Even though I don't particularly like Ford, I hope they don't fuck it up like Honda did with the new NSX.

>>16553653
Nobody manufacturer is going to try and set hot laps in the middle of nowhere.

Until it sets laps on tracks people give a shit about, like Laguna/Willow/Burgerking we don't know how fast it is.

>>16553793
But the NSX wasn't 's fuck up, it's fast and is more or less a 918 Spyder for a tenth of the price

>but muh feels
These idiots have never driven an NSX

>>16553645
>Calabogie raceway is bumfuck nowhere
It's right next to Ottawa and it's a pretty fucking long and top tier track

>>16553872
Then why aren't there any laptimes published by other manufacturers on that track? All I can find is motorcycles and chumpcar.

Besides, wouldn't it have been easier to just go to Laguna Seca or Willow? I know they're manufacturing the GT in Canada, but it makes no sense to test your car on a track doesn't have industry support, and a wide range of laptimes - unless you want to cover something up.

Also, comparing the GT with a 458 is kinda wierd. There's a 3 second gap around CMP (~2 minute laptimes) - but a 458 is 2 seconds slower around Fiorano than a 488 (a ~1:30 minute track). I think that a 488 will get very close to a GT, even around CMP - but Ford just didn't want to confirm or deny that suspicion.

>>16553888
It's a relatively new track. I'm kind of hoping more manufacturers start testing there, all we have so far is Nissan Micra cup cars

>>16553853
The "problem" with the new NSX is that it didn't live up to the monstrous (and mostly unrealistic) expectations set by the old one. It's a perfectly fine car, it just hasn't had fanboys masturbating to it for 25 years.

>>16553905
Aww shit, replied to wrong comment.
>>16553867
This is the correct one.

>>16553892
It's about an hour away from me. Been on it a couple of times. Would love to see it take off and do well internationally, but...

I don't see it being anybody's favorite anytime soon. It's HELL on brakes, more so than the average track. High speed straights into hairpins.

Also no spectator area and it is about 30 minutes past bum fuck nowhere.

>>16553625
So the 488 GTB is superior. Eh, can't say it's a surprise.

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>>16553625
It's about 3054 dry with 120 in fluids, so 3174 lbs. At 638hp, it's about the same power to weight as the Viper ACR.

Except the ACR costs two-fifths the price, has more torque, is faster despite being manual, and gets better fuel economy despite having an 8.4L engine.

Displacelets and turbofags will never learn.

>>16554049
LS master race here can we be friends?

>>16554058
Sure friend

LS7 a best

>>16554049
It does? The ACR gets about 10-13 mpg IIRC

So much for muh Ecoboost

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>>16554049
B-B-But, it's supposed to beat anything apart from the 918 anon. I thought the GT was the god masheen.

Also speaking of the ACR, viper owners are crowdfunding a snek trip to the nordschleife so it can beat the record again for extra bragging rights.

go to go fund me and add take-back-the-ring-record after the com/
(remover the spaces cause 4chan thinks it's spam)
Are you hype? I know I am.

>>16554206
Viper gets 12MPG city, 21MPG highway according to EPA testing (15MPG combined).

The Ford GT has the worst rating of any 2017 Ford vehicle: 11MPG city, 18 MPG highway, for a combined rating of 14MPG.

>Ecoboost

>>16554227
>The Ford GT has the worst rating of any 2017 Ford vehicle: 11MPG city, 18 MPG highway, for a combined rating of 14MPG.
That's hilarious.
A combined 14MPG from a 3.5L engine.

You'd think it'd be one of the most fuel efficient supercars, not the worst.

FORD™ is proud to announce that in a FORD™ conducted test at Literally, Who? Raceway, Nowhere, Canada; the FORD™ GT™ was driven by FORD™s Trained Professionals faster than several competitors that did not attend the test.

Place your order for the 2017 FORD™ GT™ now! Oh wait, you can't, just buy a 488 or 650S instead then..

>>16554475
Too bad the 488 is the ugliest mid engined Ferrari ever made, so it rules that out.

>>16553888
>Fiorano laptimes
You know those are completely made up so Ferrari can shill their newest model, right?

>>16554410
>650 hp
>why doesn't it get good gas mileage?????
durrr

>>16553633
>muh feelings
how's your vagina today

>>16554475
The track is probably nearby where they're engineering it. After all the ferd is built in Canada

>>16553760
>>16554584

>cares only about numbers
>doesn't care if a car is enjoyable

This the definition of benchracing.

>>16554577
An 8 liter v10 gets better mixed mileage. Let that sink in.

>>16554577
647hp and 11/18 mpg...
last years entry level ferrari has 660hp and 15/22 mpg.

I was going to buy a ford gt, but after these numbers i'm pretty disappoint, i'll stick to my dx hatch, which is lighter, gets much better mpg, and with a few simple mods, is probably faster.

The performance of this car blows more than its two turbines.

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>>16554660
>The performance of this car blows more than its two turbines.

These turbines will probably blow in more ways than one.

>>16553625
>Kerb
Wut

>>16554665
Curb weight, aka with all fluids

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>>16553645
>no! it doesn't count!
rotflmao. btfo by a v6 f150

ford is goat

Motor trend reported it weighs 3300 pounds fully soaked.

>>16554636
With the world's longest gearing......

>gm shills start a thread falsefalgging and shitposting
>slowly disappear
really makes me think

>>16554782
Literally grasping at straws

>>16554791
not an argument.

>btfo by a v6 ford
Rotflmao

HOW ENBARRASING!

>>16553625
sad

>>16554577
oh look, a retard who doesn't understand that an engine doesn't make peak power at every RPM and 10% load, but who wastes time commenting anyway

durrrr

>>16553625
wtf i love ford now

>>16554794
neither is a supposed high tech "ecoboost" engine getting worse mpg than a truck pushrod engine, a high revving twin turbo v8 flatplane ferrari, and a mclaren lol

>>16554834
>what is a powerband
>The engine’s wide powerband produces 90 percent of its peak torque from 3,500 rpm.
durrrr

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>>16554845
>Mclaren literally cannot compete with a v6 ford
ROTFLMAO

goalposts moving in 3 2 1

>>16554782
which is really a testament to its torque considering the performance it offers.

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>>16553625
what a pigfat piece of shit

>>16554782
The Gen V Viper is known for having shorter gears and thus gets worse mileage than the Gen IV

Try again.

>>16554853
chill your autism bud, neither of us can speak about performance until all cars are tested in 3rd party comparisons

>buying a 650hp supercar
>caring about gas mileage

EL EM AYY LMAO

fucking plebs

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>v8 fags get btfo by the rxc turbo
>then get btfo by a modified f150
rotflmao
>>16554868
it's already faster. keep sperging. rotflmao.

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>no! the times are fake!
>FORD IS LYING!!!!
you literally can't make this hurt up

It looks like Ford nailed the downforce on this thing and blew everyone the fuck out.

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>>16554817
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW

MCLAREN WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN!!!! IT WAS OUR TURN!

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP

I'm honestly confused about the GT's target audience.

Who's going to look at Lambos, Ferraris, Porsches, McLarens, and every other supercar and think to themselves "nah, I'll get a Ford."?

It's baffling.

>>16555089
The 6500 people who applied to buy one?

>>16553888
You can't estimate the laptimes of cars based on how they did on different tracks, there a some variables which can affect the laptime in ways you can't predict, the incline, the turns, the lengths of the straights, etc. The car may not react and be considerably slower on one track than on another even if they are the same length.

>>16554850
holy shit, you still don't know what load means, but you commented again

You actually know nothing about cars.

actually kys

>>16553677
If it had another badge you would go full boner

>>16555100
Well, I guess so, but why? Ford fanboyism? What makes the GT competitive?

>>16555513
it's faster than the competition

>>16553633
Found the Miata/86 driver

>>16555513
harder to get than a ferrari

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>>16553625
>Dodge

Kinda weirds me out how emotionally invested /o/ is in seeing x brand or x car fail or succeed, whatever their personal metric for such may be

I'd be happy with a clean car with a nice noisy engine that I'm capable of working on myself regardless of brand, not really sure what the point is here.

>>16555089
I don't think /o/ really understands the concept of personal taste

>>16555513
It looks sexy. I don't like Ford but even I can admit that.

>>16557039
Looks ugly inside and out imo. actually its the biggest turnoff for me. Even if it did have a V8, V10 or V12 i still couldn't put a poster of it on my wall unfortunately.

>>16557100
Here's that "I have no idea what personal taste is" thing I was talking about.

I know /o/ likes to think it is an authority on cars but I think you need to go and look up what 'subjective' means again. Just because you or ALL of /o/ (HINT: Every board on 4chan hates things that people who aren't from 4chan like, it doesn't mean you're right or that 'the fucking normies' are stupid, it means you're a contrarian jackwagon.) thinks its ugly or shit at the end of the day the majority of /o/ doesnt even have lubemonkey-tier knowledge of vehicles and your opinions are just that.

Opinions.

Glad you feel that way. Doesn't make it a fact.

>>16553867
Every review has said the car is shit house.

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>>16557444

Am i looking at a copypasta or does he not know that "imo" = "In My Opinion"?

>>16557810
A little of both.

Im drunk.

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>>16557810
appears as though you've unwittingly baited him

>>16555089
They sold out so obviously there is a market for them.

>>16558018
You have no way of knowing this

>>16553625
Also sounds like shit

>>16553625
>How long untill this Dodge sends the ACR out to Bumfuck Nowhere, Canada, and resets that lap record?

The viper owners of america are crowdfunding a trip to nordschleife for 2 sneks to retake the record from the 918

>>16553625
so what, you will NEVER own one.

I can appreciate this car without other peoples thoughts about it.


Deal with it . jpg

>>16554782
>implying the Viper has taller gears

>2017 Viper
>Top speed: 193MPH

>2017 Ford GT
>Top speed: 216MPH

>>16554665
>>16554713
Kerb weight (UK) or curb weight (US) is the weight of a vehicle as it could sit at the kerb/curb outside your house: that includes all fluids. Kerb weight is always higher than dry weight (without fluids).

>>16555121
So, in order to settle that, why didn't Ford bring a 488? Or, for that matter, why didn't they test at a track with publicly known laptimes?

As it sits, it's an uncontrolled test, with substandard competitors (458), on a track that nobody can compare to.

>>16557100
>3.5L V12 Ecoboost GT
This would've salvaged the entire deal. Hell, even a 5.2 twinturbo Voodoo would have been fine but no sir, Ford is dominated by marketeers nowadays.

>>16558018
Having sold out without a single spec of information about performance is brilliant marketing, not brilliant engineering, and I think the GT is a perfect example of a highly-limited Veblen good.

>>16558502
>so what, you will NEVER own one.
But there is a possibility I might one day own a 488 or 650. I will never own an inferior GT, because A. it'll be slower once Ford isn't doing the testing and B. they're extremely limited in their production.

>>16559367
>aerodynamics don't exist

>>16553633
According to that chief engineer post, they cared most about driving feel, because they essentially knew they couldn't make a 700hp beast.

Almost all the research went into feedback and feel.

I think it looks fantastic, it really grew on me.

As >>16553667 said, super cars now need super drivers to win the numbers race, so it's not really much about that anymore.

Wish they went for the coyote, but as the engineers said, it was meant to be an ecoboost billboard and they couldn't run the 8 reliably enough.

>>16560176
> they essentially knew they couldn't make a 700hp beast.
They could have made it a 4.0L engine instead, then it'd be over 700hp. What?

>>16560224
>ford
>designing an engine
Kek
The 3.5 is a mazda engine. Ford couldnt even do that.

>>16560229

>>16560229

>>16554562

Thank you very much, conspiracy-anon!

I've found something for you:

https://youtu.be/X7vk5-Bfd3U

Remember, auto motor sport test fucking everything, it was completely stock.

>>16560229
AYY is the ecoboost still based of Mazda's MZR engines?

>>16560889
It seems it's based on the 3.5L Duratec engine block to me.
Same engine that was in the CX-9 and dozens of Ford and Lincoln cars. But with direct injection and such based on the MZR engines.

Notably, it was also used in the Radical RXC V6, I believe the name is.

>>16560889
Yes but ford made some slight changes and then added turbos.

Still is a mzr block

>>16560395
I could drive faster than that. What a pussy with those mild apexes.

This is what I hate most about Nurburgring times. They can be off by like half a minute just due to pissant driving.
Look at how often drivers lift off the throttle on long straights because they're afraid to go faster, and are so soft on the brakes afraid it'll go squirrely. If you aren't on the gas or brakes, you're going slower.

On other tracks, drivers don't have to be afraid of going balls out and they can set consistent times.

>>16560909
You can put tits on a man, but he won't be suddenly a man.

>>16553625
Honestly I stoped caring about supersports a long time ago.
They just seems out of reach. Whenever I see news about them I just think to myself
„That'll be a good car to gift to my son if I had millions of petrodollars"
Still whenever I see one I still look after them in awe.

>>16560899
>>16560909
>>16560918
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Cyclone_engine

>>16560951
>>16560899 (You)
>>16560918 (You)
Yes, that's what I said.

I believe that makes it an SCCA legal swap to put in an FD, as well.

Ford Marketing Department here.

Check out this neat video on the kind of testing we've put these neat EcoBoost™ engines through:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tEqwXrqzH4

>$0.000001 has been deposited into your account

I don't mind that it's not as fast or a Mclaren of Ferrari, but I can't accept the
>500K$

That's fucking Aventador SV money.

>>16560981
Yeah.

They had enough people apply to buy one that had the money. Why not make more for cheaper? Why wouldn't they make it more around R8 money with their production capabilities?

It's very bullshit and not what the company should represent.

>>16553750
What I really want to know is how is a supercar with that much carbon fiber as heavy as a camry xse?

>>16560995
Oh I meant 2890lb

>>16560994
>being this retarded

>>16560918
Maybe he just didn't want the 488 to go that fast. Germans...