[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ The sad state of

WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT THE WR500

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>>16551851
because DRZ

>>16551851
Because it is a 2stroke and dbt is for slow pigfat pussybike 4strokes only

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http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/wr250r-engine-failure-or-the-thngvb-noise.1125636/

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>>16551651
>AZBDR
What month you doing it?

>>16551856
Last week of April

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>>16551868
>wr250r blows up before its first valve check
lel shitbike

>>16551869
>>16551871

>>16551851
because it's discontinued and rare and really pointless for most dirt bikers

>>16551871
I might actually be able to swing that. You doing it South to North I assume?

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463614
>wr fags on suicide watch

>>16551889
>http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/drz400-engine-big-end-longevity/
>Engine #1
>Total kilometres: 22,000km to big end failure

>Engine #2
>Total kilometres: 20,000km to big end failure

>Engine #3
>this engine failed at 6500 km
>also subject to a big end bearing failure

>Engine #4
>...

>http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/840863-big-end-rod-failure-again/
>Big End / Rod Failure again
>My original rod big end failed at 16.5K miles
>Now, with 15K miles on the rebuilt engine, its done it again
>Does anyone get more that 15/16K out of their cranks?

>https://youtu.be/jb6UVNiNdoA
>Suzuki DRZ400 Engine Crank Shaft Bearing Failure Noise

>http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3288.html
>Terrible engine sounds.
>RIP DRZ
>It has 3600kms on it.
>there was a number of issues in the bottom end
>Sounds like the crankshaft nut came loose, it is a fairly known issue.
>So it turns out that the connecting rod broke
>It has 3600kms on it.

>https://forum.motorcyclenews.com/topic/28516/drz-400s-k2-knocking-big-end/2
>DRZ 400S k2 knocking big end !
>have a k2 drz 400s with 5000 easy miles on clock
>had a knackered big end bearing

>http://supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?34927-Very-Cool-!-Catastrophic-Failure-!-DRZ400-SM
>Very Cool ! Catastrophic Failure ! DRZ400 SM
>idleing up to the security gate and WHAM! The thing locked up solid
>got off to see oil pouring out from the skid plate.
>Cool Eh ?

DRZ's literally struggle to make it half way to WR250R's first valve check without catastrophically failing on multiple consecutive motorsper bike
TOPKEK

>>16551938
>14.5 hours to Sierra Vista
Guess I'll have to find something to do in LA for at least one night, because 14.5 hours riding means probably 18 trip time, dunno if I wanna swing that in one day.

What's your plan? Camping, number of days etc.

>>16551956
I'm 1000% convinced you're KTM a shit guy and just got bored.

ITT: DRZfags furiously googling to find the few rare occurrences where a WRR has any sort of engine failure to try to combat the endless onslaught of DRZ's with bottom end failures.

Suzukifags triggered to the max. Mission accomplished.

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>>16551938
Yep. Probably going to join it from I10 and head north from there at least to Flagstaff.

>>16551970
There are just as many of both.
>you just can't admit it

Wr's have problems

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/wr250r-fuel-pump-problems.800819/

>wow it's like you can find something wrong with anything
Let's stop cherry picking and agree all bikes are shit. Cause that's where this is headed.

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>>16551991
wew lad.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/891930-wr250r-wont-start/

http://wr250rforum.forumotion.com/t7808-wr250r-stopped-running-and-won-t-start

http://wr250rforum.forumotion.com/t9415-wr250x-will-not-start-when-the-bike-is-hot

Lmao wr's can't even start
>do you get the point now, can we move on?

>>16551998
>WRR's have a $30 fuel pump issue on some 2008's
>DRZ's literally cannot make it to 15,000 miles without seizing

ayy lmao

>>16552007
>this logic
surely popularity has nothing to do with it

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>>16552007
>Lad wew

>>16552014
>literally cannot make it to 15,000 miles without seizing
Niether can wr's
>>16551954
>>16551868
>que the denial

>>16552023
>WR denotes dozens of different bikes with dozens of different engines.
>DRZ references one.

damage control to the max

I liked onions shitposting better than this drz vs wr bs

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>>16552023
>>16552007
>

>>16552033
>http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/drz400-engine-big-end-longevity/
>Engine #1
>Total kilometres: 22,000km to big end failure

>Engine #2
>Total kilometres: 20,000km to big end failure

>Engine #3
>this engine failed at 6500 km
>also subject to a big end bearing failure

>Engine #4
>...

>http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/840863-big-end-rod-failure-again/
>Big End / Rod Failure again
>My original rod big end failed at 16.5K miles
>Now, with 15K miles on the rebuilt engine, its done it again
>Does anyone get more that 15/16K out of their cranks?

>https://youtu.be/jb6UVNiNdoA
>Suzuki DRZ400 Engine Crank Shaft Bearing Failure Noise

>http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3288.html
>Terrible engine sounds.
>RIP DRZ
>It has 3600kms on it.
>there was a number of issues in the bottom end
>Sounds like the crankshaft nut came loose, it is a fairly known issue.
>So it turns out that the connecting rod broke
>It has 3600kms on it.

>https://forum.motorcyclenews.com/topic/28516/drz-400s-k2-knocking-big-end/2
>DRZ 400S k2 knocking big end !
>have a k2 drz 400s with 5000 easy miles on clock
>had a knackered big end bearing

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1048539-suzuki-drz-400-sm-engine-failure/
>Suzuki DRZ 400 SM Engine Failure
>have been riding it for a one month
>Few days ago it suddenly died
>now has very odd knocking sound coming from the engine
>it is impossible to ride the bike
>After starting it always stops just in few seconds with a strong crackling sound

http://www.drz400e.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=8&id=901&Itemid=154
>Engine failure
>i had the bike loose power and stop.
>oil everywhere and no compression.
>i have only had the bike 8 months


>http://supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?34927-Very-Cool-!-Catastrophic-Failure-!-DRZ400-SM
>Very Cool ! Catastrophic Failure ! DRZ400 SM
>idleing up to the security gate and WHAM! The thing locked up solid
>got off to see oil pouring out from the skid plate.
>Cool Eh ?

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>>16552038
Let's go deeper then..

>>16552038
>DRZ400S,SM
>DRZ400E
>DRZ400K
>DRZ125
>DRZ70

>>16551956
Took the time to read those this time
#1 guy lugged the shit out of it with highway gearing
#2 Moisture contamination and too long between oil changes
#3 No idea miles on it or anything so idk
#4 Yep that motor was a shit
#5 Possibly more moisture contamination, possibly a shit
#6 Ex race bike, guy lugged the motor alot, possible oil starvation, still motor failure though.

I took the bait, you happy now?

>>16552055
>>16552054
>wr fags can't handle the truth

>>16552054
>dat space
>the lengths a suzukifag will go to to try and hide DRZ shitness
>not even cleveror slick about it.

see:
>>16552045
and
>>16552007

>>16552055
>>DRZ400S,SM
>>DRZ400E
>>DRZ400K
literally the same bikes and the same motors with minor differences.

>DRZ125
>DRZ70
shit no one bought and no one cares about.

>wr confirmed for shit
>even more than drz
>/dbt/ is at war
I hate them both so fuck it.

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Hey everyone shut the fuck up about the DRZ/WR and post your bikes

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>>16552082

>>16552059
>DRZ failing under perfectly reasonable conditions with practically no miles on the clock
>retards still trying to make excuses for them

topkek

>>16552075
>>dat space
>>the lengths a suzukifag will go to to try and hide DRZ shitness
>>not even cleveror slick about it.
>DAT SPACE
lol wut
You have nothing left to cling to, give it up.

>>16552086
what if i own a suzukid DRZ400SM (aka godbike)?

>>16552095
>perfectly reasonable conditions
>abuse and neglect is perfectly runnable
Please don't ever have children
Lol not like a bitch would fuck you anyway.

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>>16552086
Uhh, I'm not sure what to do.

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>>16552086
sure thing ;^)

>>16552096
>damage control by trying to incorperate a space in the WR250R name that doesnt exist in order to try and gather more hits on a search engine.

DRZfags are literally this desperate.

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>>16552081
E has a different carb and cams and base gasket
K has E parts and a different flywheel
>>16552086

>>16552102
>perfectly reasonable use is considered "abuse and neglect" by DRZ fags because their shitbike is made of poor quality glass and cant even make it to their first valve adjustment

topkek.

>>16552112
like i said
>minor differences

still the same seize-happy bottom end that suzuki failed at designing.

>>16552107
>thinking a space makes a difference
If anything it should narrow it further.
Look you've already been proven wrong, stop resulting to elementary arguments and move on.

>>16552120
>>thinking a space makes a difference
try searching with and without the space, retard.

>DRZfags literally this desperate.

>>16552112
Bread on rally bike or gtfo.

>>16552104
Post your 701 fagget

>>16552113
>clinging to the last hope even though they lost
Now that's what I call desperate
>>16552119
Just like the wr?

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>>16552086

>>16552128
>Dozen DRZ motors all with a simple search that failed from the same failure point
>they literally can only find two WRR's with any sort of documented engine failure.

DRZfags on suicide watch.

>Just like the wr?
There is almost nothing in common between the WRR and WRF motors. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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>>16552086
Bikes are trash

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>>16552126
oh right

>>16552141
>dozens of drz motors failed
>dozens of wr250r motors failed
Who gives a shit dude, all of you actually.
I know you all act like shitposting is a 9-5.
But it's crossed the point where this is only driving me away from both bikes.

>>16552113
>Having moisture from water in crankcase is perfectly reasonable
>Single track with highway gearing that lugs the shit out of your motor till it blows up is perfectly reasonable
>Not doing oil changes is reasonable
I feel bad for your bike, if you even have one

>>16552162
>Rear wheel swap requires muffler to be taken off
Why the fuck do manufacturers keep thinking that subjecting people to this meme is a good idea?

>>16552140
Headlight on or wierd lighting?

>>16552166
>being triggered this hard because a DRZ is too fragile to deal with situations other dual sports laugh at.

drzfags in serious suicide watch now. This isnt a joke anymore. guys knock it of, they might actualy hurt themselves this time.

>Ben drunk for like 8 hour staight
>wanna go for a ride
>cant stop drinkin
Gotta fix my prioritis here

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>>16552162
Dat superduke tho

>>16552181
>damage control
>>16552188
Just stop drinking?

>>16552179
My lights were on in that pic.

>>16552181
Nice damage control

>>16552196
>>16552206
>trying to call damage control when your damage control has been called out.

keep crying about how fragile DRZ's are fags, topkek

Im convinced this is one loser arguing with himself hoping to stir up an actual argument.

>>16552148
>any other cheap ass 125cc:
>"ugggggg, eurocuck shit. no thanks i'm AMERICAN"
>"can't wait to get my A2 m8. fuck this non-american shithole if only i was white enough to live a nice life in burgerland"
>grom:
>"wow, this is amazing, the perfect fuck-around bike, and only $4000 more than the other 125ccs on craigsist, sign me the fuck up, honda does it a fucking gain"
>"all of a sudden i'm fine with my current license, thanks for showing me the light you sick cunts"

>>16552169
It's like two bolts, who cares?

>>16552212
>trying to call damage control when your damage control has been called out.

Yeah that's exactly what you're doing

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>>16552212
please leave cyclecruza

>>16552196
>telling an alcoholic to just stop drink
It doesn't work ill tell ya
Didn't work on me want work on im

>>16552225
>GUYS DRZS ARE GOOD THEY JUST CANT HANDLE NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR WITHOUT BLOWING UP

literally your argument.

lel

>>16552169
You can have that, you can have an illegally loud shorty muffler that looks like shit, you can have a long ass bike that handles like shit, or you can have the muffler stuffed under the seat so now you have absolutely no underseat storage and need panniers for fucking everything, and probably can't even use a bungee net without melting the hooks unless the bike has specialized cargo net hooks (it probably doesn't, especially not if panniers are a dealer option)

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>>16552086
Yes sir

>>16552237
>shitposting this hard
Dont you have a minimum wage midnight shift to be at?

Do I need anything other than the two jets to rejet a carburetor? I see that there are a lot of carburetor jet kits floating around that come with a bunch of stuff, but they just look like a waste of money. All of the guides I read don't mention any of that extra stuff.

>>16552237
gearing way taller than stock, mounting giant hard cases and a 7 gallon tank and changing the oil half as often is not normal wear and tear

>>16552247
>two jets
Depends on the bike, mine has three jets
You don't really need anything else desu

>>16552261
So the bike cant handle a couple extra pounds?
What if a fat rider was on it?

>>16552237
Again
>Normal wear and tear
>Water in motor, not changing oil

>>16552261
>big bad 400cc bike can't handle normal wear and tear
>little yamaha 250 does exact same thing and begs for more while being literally better at everything

LOL suzukifags on major double serious suicide watch. No joking guys seriously stop. They cant take any more.

So basically
>WR FAGS BLOWN TF OUT
just in case you haven't noticed.

>>16552272
see:
>>16552274

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>>16552086

>>16552261
And yet a honda will handle that for hundreds of thousands of miles

>>16552247
my carb has a main, slow, starter, leak, slow air, and needle jet

>>16552284
Dont
Its already gone too far don't bring another manufacturer into this

>>16552278
DRfags literally have to keep telling themselves this in order not to feed themselves a bullet
see:
>>16552274

I dont normally stay up this late and browse /dbt/
Now I remember why

>>16552282
>2017-01-26
Picture taken 2 days in the future?

>>16552280
Water in you crankcase is normal for a wr? Not changing the oil is normal for a wr? I dont understand, do wr riders not know how to maintain and work on their bikes?

>>16552291
Hey, honda is flawless except for that bottom of the dyno thing

>>16552312
First day of the 26th month anon
What kind of calendar are you looking at?

>>16552316
changing your oil at 6k-10k miles with full synthetic instead of every 3k miles with conventional is pretty normal if you take it easy

not sure about the other things, WR crankcases tend to be pretty waterproof

>>16552325
>WR crankcases tend to be pretty waterproof
Until you look at it funny rofl

>>16552316
>little baby yamaha 250 makes just as much power as big bad 400cc suzuki AND can keep chugging no matter how much normal wear and tear you throw at it while being literally better at everything
>suzukifags literally cannot handle this and are contemplating suicide live on 4chan right this very moment

guys seriously, joke is over. serisouly stop. these DRZ fags cannot handle this sort of embarrassment any more. They are going to kill themselves and you all will have to live with it.

>>16552328
WR not DR

>>16552306
No kidding
The shitposting is fucking real

>>16552338
>wr fags believe this
Do you believe vitamins can cure cancer too?

>>16552344
Stupid dirtbike shitposting has been going on for months on night /dbt/

>>16552353
You can thank delusional suzuki fans

>>16552325
Yeah, those guys were not taking it easy though, and moisture got in the crankcases from them sitting for a long ass time without running. Anyways, thank you for an actually reasonable post, i dont mind the drz vs wr stuff except when it is a bunch of autistic shitpost like tonight

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>>16552306
I love all bikes and this drz shit is just over the top. 2 many memes.

>>16552350
>DRZfags literally cannot handle that their ancient 400cc shitbike gets outperformed by a modern lean, mean, 250 killing machine. and is more durable to boot.

>>16552353
I guess ill just move bedtime to 2200 then.

>>16552359
>wr fags
Prime example right here.
100% wrong and ashamed to admit it!

>>16552370
100% perfect of DRZfag not being able to handle irrefutable hard line proven facts!

Call me names w/e done reading the shit posts goin to sleep.
>not sure if they are actually arguing
>or on the same page to disrupt the thread
Consipiracy I tell ya!

>>16552380
100% perfect example of wrfags not being able to handle irrefutable hard line proven facts!
It works both ways hombre

>>16552386
Not even him.
But no.
The drz is shit. Get over it.

>>16552386
>DRZfag posts no facts
>tries to pigyback off WRfag genius by pure imitation
>still on suicidewatch because suzuki a shit.

>>16552382
It's literally just alphonse and a couple pf cell phones

Ask any one of them for bread on bike and you won't get shit

Fucking mrcummy has more seat time that this faggot

>>16552380
>no effort given in spelling or grammar.
>>16552386
>effort put in, even though he copied and pasted the previous response.
The WR defender does not appear to actually care. He's in it for the response, and that means you are the prey taking his bait.
>this also means that your argument is more than likely better than his half assed attempt.

>>16552397
>>16552393
Both sides have presented equal evidence. Wr group had begun to speak irrelevant phrases. And drz group imitated. Niether side is right, nor wrong, just childish.

The DRZ400 is still carbed.

That's all you need to know to not want to buy the DRZ400.

Shitty, archaic fueling a good way to put an otherwise great engine to waste

>>16552408
>DRZfag talking to himself because he ha lost the argument and has nothing to support his bullshit

The following has been determined and proven in this thread:
Fact: WRR is lighter and better than DRZ's in every single way
Fact: DRZ's are fragile and cannot handle normal every day use without blowing up
Fact: WRRs are smaller lighter and more modern bikes that are also more durable and able to stand up to abuse DRZs couldn'st dream of
Fact: DRZs are pigfat and blow up before their first valve adjustment
Fact: WRR's have 26,000 mile valve adjustments, which is right after the motor is broken in.

>>16552421
But really though.
Factually.
The drz is low on power and way heavy.
There are many bikes in the same price range that are better. There is no reason to buy a drz.

>>16552421
>equal
wrfag posted like a bajillion drzs with blown motors
drzfags posted like two
drzfags also constantly shitpost all over /dbt/ with their godbike bullshit and trolling

drzfags lose by default on that last point alone.

>WR250 vs DRZ400
>a newer design is more efficient and more reliable than a 90s bike

how does this shit fill entire threads

GUYS GUYS GUYS 1998 VFR750 VS 2017 CBR600R GOGOGOGOGO

>>16552427
once upon a time DRZs were hella cheap on the used market

>>16552434
They still are where i live, much cheaper than wrs

>>16552423
Fact: Cyclecruza rides a WRR

>>16552441
And cheaper because they are worse bikes.

>leave
>come back 2 hours later
>people still in a triggerfest by the mere sight of a picture of a DRZ
lul back to playing vidya

>>16552428
>wrfag posted like a bajillion drzs with blown motors
no, he posted a few of them a month ago and spammed it
he posted it twice in this thread
>>16552045
>>16551956

>>16552434
*1997

I don't know how i fucked that up

>>16552441
Lucky you. They go for 3k off MSRP at the most around here, and nobody sells WR250Rs despite it being dirtbike country. I saw a WR450 for a thousand more than a DRZ400 once and that's it.

Most of the dirtbikes you see loaded into trucks are either KTMs or chinese off-brands.

>>16552434
>GUYS GUYS GUYS 1998 VFR750 VS 2017 CBR600R GOGOGOGOGO
Carbs
That is all

>>16552468
those are different posts and thats significantly more blown drz motors than there have been blow wr motors posted in this thread.

>>16552474
t. cantwrench

>DRZfag spams DRZ pictures
>WRfag gets triggered, cherry picks examples of motors blowing in an autism fit
>DRZfags do the same
>meanwhile all the other dumbasses in /dbt/ who don't know better actually start to believe it and argue about it
>thread derailed and everyone is dumber for it

this is why you don't believe anything you read on 4chan

>>16552480
>can wrench but carbs are still a waste of time when efi works better 100% of the time.
Time is money anon.

>>16552488
Except anyone can read that the drz is heavy and slow.
That is fact.

>>16552490
>herewegoagain.fuckeverything

>>16552490
What happens you your fuel pump burns out? What happens when an injector is clogged? What happens when you have no battery power and can't bump start the bike?

>>16552445
Sucks at riding a wrr*

>>16552492
who fuckin cares? is it really worth sperging this hard over lol?

>>16552477
>implying every failed wr was reported online
>implying every report was posted here
>implying the above for the drz
>implying the production numbers for DRZ and WRR are the same

>>16552503
Im not the one sperging.
The drz fags are because they spam threads and claim its the best bike ever.
Factually its a pretty bad bike.
That is all

>>16552496
Maybe don't ride shitbikes and these things won't be a regular enough occurrence to worry about.

>>16552496
>What happens you your fuel pump burns out? What happens when an injector is clogged?
implying either of those are just things that happen suddenly and prevent your bike from running

>What happens when you have no battery power and can't bump start the bike?
protip, the engine turning over produces current and you can start the bike if you have a big enough hill or a friend to push

>luddites will actually use these extremely uncommon scenarios to defend their fear of technology

>>16552511
Some guy posts pictures of a DRZ and then everybody else cant help but cry about it. You are sperging.

>>16552496
What happens when your carbs get clogged? What happens when something inside the carbs fails?
Same shit just happens more often with carbs
Also
>cant bump start an efi bike
what if you told you can?

>>16552527
No. I literally just got here.
But it is quite annoying that every thread is
>drz photos every 60 seconds
>OP is Godbike edish
>claims its the best bike ever built
>claims wr killer
>anyone asks what bike to buy is followed up with 27 photos of a drz
>any time a wr is mentioned there is 89 photos of a drz
Come on now.
No one is sperging more than the drz guy

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Miss me yet?

>>16552539
He is only doing it because it makes everybody mad lol. It's pretty funny actually. I ride a WR myself but I will post DRZ pictures sometimes just to get a kick out of making these faggets mad.

If you just didn't reply, he would stop, except everybody can't help but get triggered. ez trolling

>>16552519
>protip: your fuel rail may not be pressurized, or may lose pressure after an unsuccessful attempt
>protip: you don't know the definition of luddite

>>16552544
I just got done explaining how he posts no matter if anyone replies or not.
Lrn2rd

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If your bike was an anime girl which anime girl would it be?

>EX500

>>16552546
>this situation barely ever happens and you will need a new battery either way, but carbs are marginally more convenient if your battery dies so therefore they're better than EFI, even though EFI is superior in literally every other way!

People on /dbt/ seriously believe this.

>DRZ gets spammed almost 24/7
>more DRZ owners on dbt than any other bike
>still thinking it's one anon

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>>16552540
Nah

>>16552549
So what if nobody replies? he just spams until they do or comes back later lol. he is trolling and all of you are too dumb to realize it

>>16552563
Youre seriously illiterate arent you?
Ill explain again
>hey guys what bike should i buy
27 drz pictures are posted
>hey guys i have a wr
27 drz pictures followed by "shitbike wr"

Do you understand now?
It doesnt matter if anyone replies to it

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>>16552572
what matters is that you are triggered.

just report all the DRZ shitposting and they'll get banned. They got banned last week and the shitposting was gone for like 3 days.

>>16552572
You must be a newfag. you think getting butthurt and replying to his spamming is going to stop him? Just encourages him even more lol. He spams even if nobody's replying, because eventually someone always will.

>>16552580
You have brain damage

>>16552581
You're in denial that you're being trolled.

>>16552579
For what? Avatarfagging?

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>>16552579
I don't recall being banned

>>16552555
Motorcycle batteries suck dude

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>>16552572

so uh

anyone doing anything with their bikes

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>>16552086
It is sad because it is fucked now. Made a huge knocking sound and fucked something in the engine. No more Wheelies.

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>>16552618

>>16552618
trying to sell my shitbike klr250

Can summer come around already so people stop posting stupid dirt bikes so much?

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Four threads straight there has been DRZ/WR shitposting.

It`s like I'm on fucking /pol/ with big black dicks and Canadians.

Get it together guys.

>>16552629
you'd think that have top end rebuilds or some shit to get around to

>>16552634
Funny you should mention that.
Just got the engine out of the DRZ frame. No pics cuz phone is broken.

Time to drop $1500 on tools, gears and bearings...

>>16552637
You got a throwaway email?

>>16552637
shit you could buy a better bike for that

>tfw dad get you motorcyle gear for birthday
>harley bandana
>fingerless gloves
>face cloth? with a skull on it
>but you ride a sportbike
T-thanks dad

>>16552642
nope
[email protected]

Seeing as they are upgrading the GSX-R1000 in 2017, does anyone know if/when they plan to upgrade the 750?

>>16552657
never

it has the R&D/production costs of a 1000 and sales worse than a 600. it costs like $700 less than the liter. what's the point, besides saving on insurance?

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>>16552632

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Up for sale is my 2005 red gsxr1000 manual with 24000 miles. Fast. New air filter 4 years ago. 25% tread on tires. Three bros aftermarket exhaust. Could use a new seat. Mechinically sound. Never been raced stunted cuz I dont know how. parked in the shade. Selling cuz my wife. Never been wrecked. Salvage tilte.. Bike is in the phillipines but I visit AZ a lot. $8500. No lowballs No scammers. Dont need help selling not in a rush

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>>16552654
Sent

>>16552663
lighter weight, chassis of 600

>>16552663
Its more manageable than the 1000 in terms of power? Or am I just a newb?

>>16552666
>Bike is in the phillipines but I visit AZ a lot.

the fuck

>>16552682
And it'll still get smoked on a track by a 1000 regardless of how many car lengths you can make up in thirteen consecutive chicanes

If suzuki drops it entirely they'll have more money to spend on making the 1000 lighter

>>16552691
But what if I won't be taking it to the track so pure speed doesn't matter as much? Should I just get the GSX-R600? Or the ZX-6R?

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>>16552697
636

>>16552701
My initial reasoning was that I wanted to get a 600 with a bit more midrange power than all the standard 600s like the R6, CBR600RR etc. Thats why I was considering the 750.

>>16552697
Pretty fucking much

It's not a huge upgrade over the 600 but it's a huge downgrade from the 1000

>>16552707
May also want to consider a Daytona, it's pretty much exactly what you described.

>>16552707
>with a bit more midrange
Get the new Street Triple 765.

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>>16552724

>>16552720
Dont like the sound of 3 cyclinder engines desu.

>>16552724
Prefer bikes with fairings

Realistically, how much more nuts is a 1000 over a 600? Insurance costs and purchase price differences aside, am I being unreasonable with being scared about 1000 and their ability to murder me? Or can both classes of bike kill me just as quickly and I should just get something like a fireblade and be done with it all.

Aside from the perceived murder factor, I'm hesitant about 1000 bikes as I doubt I would actually use all the power as I only do twisties and have never tracked.

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sup bikefags, i taken out a lot quite a lots of you silyl slow cunts this summer,
so plsease stay gtfo my touge i dont enjoy cleaning bloods off my car tyty:^)

>>16552751
wow that car looks old and shitty

>>16552751
Your car is slower than my dirt bike

Lrn 2 spel

>>16552742
>Realistically, how much more nuts is a 1000 over a 600?
about 50-60 more nuts to the wheel.

Practically you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference in a 600 vs 1000 in a roll on race to 60-70mph. From there the 100 should start walking the 600 hard.

The 1000 will 'feel' faster tooting around town as they have a much stronger midrange where on a 600 you have to work for the acceleration and downshift a bit.

Really for all practical purposes a 1000 is not going to net you substantially better all out performance than a 600 in the riding envelope you're likely to take it. A a good 600 will also handle better/easier.
On the other hand in day to day riding a 1000 will feel peppier and faster and will be overall much easier to ride and attain high speeds, for better or worse.

Realistically I think a 1000 makes a better street bike for this reason so long as you can keep yourself in check. a 600 has a more track appropriate powerband and you will learn more hustling a 600 around a track while shifting appropriately to keep the motor in it's sweet spot. On a 100 you're more likely to just be lazy and leave it in 3rd to motor out of corners at lower engine speeds.

Reall just preference. a 600 or a 100 will get you killed pretty quick, a 1000 will get you to Captain Insano speeds above 100mph much faster, but by that point you'd already be a gonner too on a 600 acting equally stupid. A 1000 is also more likely to catch you out with overwhelmed rear traction in a corner (read high-side) where a 600 you'd typically have to be trying or being really stupid on the throttle to accomplish the same result.

>>16552754
>>16552768
slowfags bikecunts detected
u mad that you shiters cant even keep up when im packing same CC's as you? lmaoo

>>16552707
Don't get a 750 if you like resale value. Shit like the GSXR 750 is much less in demand than 600/1000cc counterparts.

If the VFR800 weren't nearly five hundred fucking pounds and didn't have vtec it would be the perfect bike

>dat nearly flat torque curve
>who needs revs when you have torks
>i got 99 problems but 2 cyllinder heads aint one

>>16552773
>55cc less than a single combustion chamber on your dorito bomb
>more hp to the wheel than the entire car can muster
>literally weighs 1/6th as much

okay.jpg

>>16552707
>>16552774
750's are probably the perfect size really for a street ridden sport bike.
Plenty of midrange for motoring around town.
More than enough power at the top for hauling ass.
Dimensions and weight close to/same as a 600.
Doesn't leave as much on the table wasted as a liter bike power wise on the street.

It's just a pitty that Suzuki is the only company still making them.

But really, in a vacuum a 600 has loads more midrange than you really need to haul ass on the street and can generate more top end speed than you really need. Getting and claiming you need anything more than a 600 when it comes to peak power you are just trying to wave your tiny peen around.

Buying a larger bike for a more liveable/potent midrange is 'almost' an acceptable excuse.

>>16552790
>more hp to the wheel than the entire car can muster
but i have four wheels, so i accelerate/turn/brake four times as fast ...

>>16552790
>750's are probably the perfect size really for a street ridden sport bike.

I agree, a 750 is objectively better than a 600 in every way. There's just no market for them for some reason.

>>16552780
>VFR800 would be the perfect bike if it didn't have the very thing that gives it the attributes I'm going to spend the rest of my post harping on as the main reason to get one.

okay.

>>16552098
redneck, dirtpoor bike

>>16552797
Replacing the SSA with something lighter and changing from honduh dual side mounted radiators to a normal one would easily bring it down to a more managable weight

>>16551835
5 or 6 dirtfags every thread that just shitpost as hard as they can everyday, pretty sad

>>16552796
>There's just no market for them for some reason.
people who buy new sportbikes are always after the 'new best thing'. They want the biggest bestest horsepowers with the newest gizbangs and doodads. only the 600cc and 1000cc sportbike segments are providing that currentls. Until recently only really the 1000cc bikes, 600's have been stagnant for a very long time.

750 segment with zero competition is typically just a 'me too' based of the 600 from Suzuki. And pricing wise people are generally just going to buy the 1000cc bike if they're going to be paying that much. Kinda the same way nobody buys small trucks anymore. small trucks are mid size trucks now that cost more than the entry price for a full size. People just buy the full size for all the wiz bang.

>>16552774
Not really fussed about re-sale value to be honest.

>>16552790
>>16552769
Thanks for the detailed responses. I think I just need to take them all out for a test ride, both 600 and some of the more affordable 1000 and go from there.

Are Husqvarna made in Europe? or have they out source to India? Pretty keen on the vit 701 when it hits, but anything made in India is a huge problem for me, learn't the hard way...more than once ><

>>16552800
I'm talking about the vtec.

It's partially responsible for the broad torque curve and torks.

>>1655280

>Weak manlets

Ayy lmao!

>>16552632
Singapore needs some Love, it's pretty aight. The shitposting is real, 5 editions straight of drz and wr meme nonsense. Just keep to every third edition or something fuck

>>16552812
The pre-vtec models were just as good for that

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Who wishes they owned a jdm z50
4 speed manual with a plethora of high quality upgrade parts to faster than you probably should be going.

>>16552802
Its only drop anon and some newcuck that likes shitty cuckfe dirtbikes

>>16552811
>not putting indian people to good use.
>not taping a broom to the back of their head and making them talk so they sweep the ceiling.

>>16552819
They didn't make as much power either.

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Feels good breaking one thousand miles on your baiku.

>>16552812
Vtec engines suck bbc. Its just an 8 valve engine below 6k. While the non vtec 800 is 16 valves all the time.

Post your odometers/dashes.

What is more fun.
A dual sport with supermoto wheels/tires or a dual sport with MX wheels/tires?

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>>16552780

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>put reservation on bike
>put reservation on numberplate

I guess i'll be hasbike this Saturday, mildly hyped already (^:

>>16552832
More valves does not equate to more power at all RPM.

It runs 8 valves at lower rpm because the motor will make more power with 8 valves at lower rpm than with 16.

The entire premise behind vtec is tuning the valve opening to the appropriate amount of flow needed to make powwer for a given rpm. Thus avoiding the compromise between a high RPM breathing engine that makes power up top but lacks midrange and a lower rpm breathing engine that makes a stronger midrange but is choked up top.

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Nice looking S1000R parked next to mine today

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>>16552828
Pls

>>16552835
>dual sport with MX wheels/tires
Doesn't make much sense really but this. Dual sport suspension isn't set up right for sumo work

>>16552836
>Honda Vtwin

enjoy it shaking itself apart and bleeding oil from every seam.

>>16552838
man it feels good to live in a country where I can just go down, buy a bike, and ride it off on a whim without some commie regulations or "reservation" bullshit.

>>16552843
Have you ever ridden those 2 bikes? Because i have and the vtec feels like shit untill it kicks in on some curb and tries to kill you.

>>16552851
I have. feels like a barely perceptible hitch in power in an otherwise completely linear powerband. No real surprises or anything that's going to kill you.

>>16552838
where from?

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>>16552851
There are more violent variations in power on a 600 supersport's powerband than you'd find ona VFR800 and no one is claiming a modern 600 is trying to kill you in a turn.

>>16552858
Tell us about the v a l v e a d j u s t m e n t s

>>16552847
I could go out, buy, register und ride it today, but I don't have the time to do so and don't want anyone else take "my" bike and "my" plate, hence the reservations
I guess it's like that in every country

>>16552860
Germany

>>16552863
$$$

>>16552869
>$$$
>per valve

>>16552862
600 are not pigfat

>>16552863
>>16552875
>>16552869

I'd probably just drop it off at my Honda dealership for a couple hundred dollars. I have no desire to tear into a modern inline 4 fully faired bike, let alone a V4 to fuck with the valves. Vtec non-withstanding.

>>16552858
>Things that never happened

>>16552877
That has nothing to do with the VFR's motor characteristics. It's a 500lb sport touring bike. Riding it like anything other than a 500lb sport touring bike is stupid. That said 500lb sport touring bikes can and do handle pretty decent. VFR800 is no exception.

Have you ever considered that maybe you are... you know... may you're just a ... shit rider?

>>16552878
>Cucktalk

Thats pretty rare on a v4 owner.

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>>16552877
600 are pigfat

>>16552885
>he says while posting a "supermoto" that's 40 kg overweight

>>16552884
I don't own one. Never said I did.

>>16552885
And dirtbikes make LOLNOPOWER

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>>16552887
700 are pigfat
>what now faggot

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>>16552885
>only 40 lbs lighter than a 600

>>16552885
>too slow to be a sport bike
>too heavy to be a supermoto
>too unrefined to be a decent tourer
>shit wheels and tires for anything resembling offroad.

What exactly is that bike for?

>>16552895
>>what now faggot
What do you mean what now? That's not your bike.

>>16552902
All of the above.

>>16552901
90 actually

>>16552905
Who said we were talking about our own bikes?

>>16552902
laying on the ground under a window and feeling like shit because your waifu isn't real and you wouldn't be good enough for her even if she was, and also because you can't wheelie

>>16552907
You bought a bike that isn't good at anything... on purpose?

>>16552902
Short maintenance intervals

>>16552907
>Husqvarna 701dry weight: 319 lbs
>Yamaha R6 dry weight: 360 lbs
Your bad math can't hide the fatness.

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>>16552835

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>>16552054
step it up son

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>>16552932
Hang on, i got this

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>>16552935
I gotchu back

>>16552941
fuck

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>>16552935
what does that make suzuki?

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Why. Just Why.

>>16553073
Gromfags, not even once

Lets end this once and for all, should they be called

MOTORCYCLES or MOTORBIKES ?

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>>16553079
gogowheels

>>16552042
I miss too hot vs too fast

>>16553079
Motorcycle = sportbike, tourer, cruiser, dirtbike, nekkid, etc
Motorbike = UJM/standard, cafe racer, pit bike

>>16553079
ENGINECYCLE

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I wanna ride tomorrow but it's gonna be really cold :(

>>16553104
Nice KTM

>>16553115
>43
>Really cold
If it's above freezing it's riding weather

any italians here? is it possible for a scottish guy to buy a motorbike in italy without residence? i have codice fiscale, and i've just made the deposit. obviously the sales guy said it was all okay when i asked him if it was possible, but just this morning the dealership called me asking for my residence/permesso di soggiorno. in the end they said they will try to register me with my passport/codice fiscale, but i'm worried it wont work.

any idea?

>>16553115
>being this much of a girls dick

>>16553115
>5 celsius sunny
>not riding
faggot

>spent $500 on farkles tonight without really realizing it

>perun rear rack
>perun rear brake master guard
>dirt tricks zirconium sprocket +4
>rally raid reinforced upper tank mounts
>rally raid reinforced lower tank mounts
>sicass slim headlight switch housing

I didn't even order the skid plate I was planning on getting...

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>>16553079
>not just moto

>>16553073
Tbh i'd argue a stretch is actually beneficial to groms
Short wheelbase is less fun

>>16553292
>I am shit at wheelies

>>16553079
Moto, like in Italian.

>>16553292
>Short wheelbase is less fun
Did you really just say this?

how do I fit panniers to my bike?

Will I have to take the seat off?

Thoughts on the Tiger 955i?

I am seriously contemplating buying one. I'd use it for my 15 mile commute and touring.

dead

>>16553377
Niggers

>>16553326
depends. they usually come with instructions.

>>16553331
deffo looks cool

>bike test cost €85
>3 month wait
>finally today is the day
>light breeze
>"I'm sorry Anon, the test is canceled due to dangerous gusts of wind"
>Another 6 week wait

Fuck you, Road Safety Authority.

>>16553160
It's absolutely possible. The sales guy probably hasn't had to do it before so it might take them a bit of figuring out.

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So /dbt/, I don't know shit about any vehicles.
I don't know what makes a bike good overall or what makes a bike good specifically for my purpose. I'm a 5'9 74kg athletic manlet, I'd imagine that would limit my choices.
Here's how my commute goes, keep in mind that I'm a dirty third worlder from the Philippines.
>daily
7km
>occasionally (think weekends, not often)
14km
>very rarely (if I want to go inna woods)
150km
Is the FZi ok? Looks wise, I would love it more if it had a circle headlight.

I know I could just get a scooter/underbone/whatever but I see those all the time[by all the time I really do mean ALWAYS when I'm on the road] and quite frankly they look disgusting.

>>16553422
>being a Eurocuck

know that feel

>>16553444
A Malaysian lady recently completed a big RTW trip on one of those 150cc FZi bikes without any trouble so I'm sure it will do whatever you want it to. If you like how it looks and it's comfortable to sit on then go for it.

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>>16553511
>If you like how it looks
Everything is fine except for the headlights. I fucking that headlight shape. If all motorcycles came with round headlights stock I am 100% sure all wars will end and no one will starve anymore.
That said, 2nd hand bikes are completely hit or miss, no? I have a friend who is a complete motorhead, if I go for 2nd hand and bring him along to test and look around I should be fine right?

New thread

>>16553537

DRZ/WR fags not welcome

>>16553537

Thumpers are for kids

>>16553537

>literally scooter engine

>>16553537

>>16553544
Round headlights are old school hipster faggotry but each to their own. You could probably swap the stock headlight for a round one very easily. And yeah having a friend who knows their shit come with you will help when buying 2nd hand.

>>16553410
my bike is a YBR 125, so it has the metal tail rack as standard. Will the straps go around it?

>>16553554
What type of panniers are you talking about?

also move to the new thread

>>16551851
Because it's fucking dead.

>>16551991
Dirt bikes (plated or unplated) are expendable. Expect them to grenade, have a spare engine, problem solved. It's the price of performance, not that the bikes are shit. One-lunger strung out lightweight engines gonna die. Get over it and have your wallet ready. Speed costs money. How fast do you want to spend?

>>16552158
>Bikes are trash

Only dirt bikes but that's not really trash, just part of life's little tradeoffs. Single cylinder engines making any horsepower die early and often. That's why your race team keeps spares in the trailer.

>>16552181
>This isnt a joke anymore. guys knock it of, they might actualy hurt themselves this time.

Then we can buy their junk at the estate sale, upgrade to Hyosung engines, and have nice comfy reliable dirt toys.

>>16552235
Drink moar and shoot meth for an energy boost.

>>16552247
Bikes, and carbs. are specific. If the proven jet change on your carb requires nothing but jets, then do that.

If ever asking a specific question, YEAR, MAKE, MODEL not 4chan "bike". You should probably lose the habit of referring to your motorcycles by anything other than a phrase which indicates at least their make and model.

"DRZ" or "WR" conveys information, much like "grenade". "DRZ (displacement)" is even more useful. English is fundamental.