[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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Motorcycles are pretty fun.

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>>16547788
Second

>buy 25 year old bike and fix it up for shits and giggles
Or
>buy 7 year old bike and have something that I don't need to work on while I fix my other 20 year old shitbike
I already have one, but it also needs some work to it.

>>16547803
Second option.

>>16547803
I bought two 34 year old bikes to work on

>>16547806
Thats the more expensive option
But I guess I'd get to ride more often

>>16547815
It sucks having a bike with problems
Everyone else is riding and your sweating in the garage cursing a bolt or carbs or whatever is wrong
Get one bike to ride and one bike to work on
>and one to take to the track
>and one for dirt trails
>and another
>and another

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NoCali Husqvarna standing by.

Onions towing service update.
>Harley bro does not want his precious hog on the trailer
>Vfr bro volunteers his bike for trailer
Can i put the 820lbs harley and a ninja 250 in the bed? My gut says it's not too much.

>>16547835
>820 pounds
Jesus does it have a sidecar?

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http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/Home/News-Story/american-motorcyclist-association-objects-as-us-seeks-100-percent-tariff-on-some-european-bikes

>U.S. seeks 100% tariff on bikes with an engine size between 51cc and 500cc imported from the European Union

Has this already been discussed?

>>16547842
2014 roadking
I'm not even kidding it's 820lbs wet

>>16547835
>Amerilard engineering

>>16547835
You'll be fine

>>16547852
Enjoy your 60k dollar panigales kek

Currently looking at a rain suit, anyone know this one?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YAX6HK/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=marketorder-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000YAX6HK&linkId=3bab4225649c5471970f6fab20a8e44e

>>16547861
Thanks kitty
>>16547856
Tis the harley life I spose

>>16547788
Her feet look like dolphin flippers. Eww

>>16547842
And yet is nimble as fuck

>>16547856
Light bikes are garbage on the highway.

>>16547877
Eh
I've ridden it
Its heavy and doesn't like going slow
Pretty comfy above 40mph though

>>16547862

It's only for bikes <500cc, so why would they increase the prices of large displacement bikes? They still need to compete with the Japanese companies.

>>16547889
Why does everyone on /dbt/ say highway when they mean interstate (freeway)
A highway is a 2 lane road with traffic going both directions and are usually 55mph.
The interstate is a higher speed, one way, multi lane road.

>>16547891
Seems maneuverable enough to me when the cops do that cute lil training course

>>16547897
Thanks for the after school special!

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Someone help, what none is this??? I'm pretty sure it's a street fighter but I need specifics.

>>16547852
>51cc and 500cc
>european bikes
hurrr
so basically only ktms

>>16547903
It may be
I'm used.to riding a ninja 250
That road king felt like a truck with two wheels to me

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>>16547909

I dunno, but the circular emblem on the tank could be Yamaha.

>>16547864
I have one similar. Works great, only had one soak through but that was riding in a tropical storm system for 6 hours.

>>16547803
Buy 40 year old bike to fix up for shits and giggles.

More funner-er

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>>16547911

>Affected manufacturers include Aprilla, Beta. BMW, Ducati, Fantic, Gas Gas, Husqvarna, KTM, Montesa, Piaggio, Scorpa, Sherco, TM and Vespa.

>>16547854
Up there with my vtx 1800

>>16547803
>bike

Wisdom of choice depends on specific bike and condition. Eventually you'll get so fast that turning usedbikes becomes trivial and so does maintaining anything else. Stick with it.

>>16547909
fz1 probably

>>16547909
>>16547917

I was right, it's a Yamaha FZ-09.

http://www.fz09.org/forum/10-fz-09-builds/9674-different-options-headlights-3.html

>>16547909
Given the round emblem on the tank there are high chances it's a gay mobile.

>>16547933
So just fix up my current bike, grab another one and repair them both while they fall apart.
That sounds like fun actually

>>16547835
You have the 2500? Answer is yes if you can fit 'em. I has trucked manybikes.

Since you has 2500, keep an eye out for a used liftgate. This is mine and it's moved many useful things including a mill and a Miller 340 welder tho I had to assist it with a jack for those loads:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/888121-how-to-install-a-used-tommy-gate-liftgate.html

>>16547835
Weight wise yes, but the bed may not be wide enough for it.

>>16547949
Do it right and they won't fucking fall apart. Mine don't and most are old Harleys with very high miles.

>>16547957
He may make it with previously discussed packing between.

Harley owner should buy a non-shit trailer. It makes life so much easier. BTW I prefer dual axle so losing a tire doesn't disable the vehicle.

>>16547945
Thaaaaank you, my mind is at peace again

>>16547952
Yeah 2500 Sierra
Those lifts are neat but im not sure how often I'd use it
I have an aluminum ramp that kind of slides in there now
>>16547957
That may be problem
But maybe I can angle them a bit the bed is 8ft should have more room to put them length wise

>Beta 480
>Aprilia 4V
>Husqvarna Nuda
>...

Why are Italian bikes always the best bikes? How can the Germans and the Japanese even compete?

>>16547969
I am worried about my pillows flying out of the bed onto the highway
My mother gave me those
I'll use more pool noodles instead of pillows

>>16547982
Fix it again tony!

>>16547988
Except those bikes are reliable.

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D R Z 4 0 0

>>16547988
>yfw without tony chrysler would be on its ass now
>still better than ford

>>16547987
Serious question
Do you have aspergers?

>>16548013
>chrysler
>anything but the worst american carmaker
nigger please

>>16548012
I've never seen a two stroke with the expansion chamber so far from the engine. Is there a reason for this design?

>>16547823
It's winter here faggot

>>16548031
not sure if srs airbag, but that's a 4 stroke

>>16548031
Its a 4 stroke sonny and its probably not an exp chamber ur lookin at ;)
>>16548035
Sucks to suck I ride all winter

>>16547930
Vtx 1300>1800

>>16548015
Not that I know of
I know im not the cleanest onion in the fridge though

>>16548050
Where u guys goin anyway?

Anyone else in NJ notice that it only snowed for 2 days? Is it global warming?

>>16547909
That's an FZ8, not an FZ-09.

>>16548059
We're roommates taking a vacation trip to Florida
Taking our bikes but vfr bro is too pussy ride ride there
>ill be honest I don't want to either

>>16548079
From where? If the trip is like less than 12 hours I'd ride lol.

Anybody here upgraded the horn on their bike? I'm looking at the Denali Soundbomb but not sure what other good options there are.

>inb4 just rev your engine

>>16548069
Haven't you heard Trump? Global warming is a meme, it doesn't exist. It's always been snowing that little in NJ, you just remember it wrong.

>>16548093
Freeway Blasters, accept no substitute.

>>16548093
I haven't used my horn in two years of riding I think.

>>16548089
About the middle of Wisconsin to Jacksonville FL
Supposed to be a 20 hour trip and we're not stopping for the night.

>>16548079
>has a VFR
>doesn't want to ride across the country
what a faggot, I could understand not wanting to do it on the 250, and I wouldn't be surprised the Harleyfag doesn't want to. But why buy a viffer if you're going to trailer it? That's like this dude I know who trailered his Goldwing to Colorado.

>>16548115
>20hr car ride with 3 dudes in a single cab
Handies goin around to easy the boredom?

>>16548112
I havent used my horn ever.
Cuz i never installed it.

>>16548125
Vfr bro has a 'bad back' so he won't do it
My ninja wouldn't make it that far at 70mph ha.
Harley bro was the only one down for the ride surprisingly
>>16548128
Nah they ugly

>20 hours non stop

Whether you ride ore drive, you're going to want to shoot yourself at about 14 hours in.

>>16548141
>My ninja wouldn't make it that far at 70mph ha.
If it has been maintined there's no reason it wouldn't. Might not be pleasant for the rider though.

>>16548145
I've done the trip before in a car
Cant say it was fun but it wasn't awful
But on the way back i fell asleep and totaled my car so.. no benadryl this time.

>>16548079
Who gets a touring oriented bike and don't do long runs on it?

>>16548152
>Wasn't awful
>Totaled his car

Average /dbt/ poster in a nutshell...

>>16548152
>they trust a retarded onion to drive for 20 hours
>he wrecked last time
So you ARE trying to kill them

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>>16548152
How the fuck was that not awful? This seriously cant be the mind set on dbt.

>>16548146
It has 90,000 miles and burn a Lil oil
I mean it would probably make it but id feel bad for it
>>16548154
My roommate
>>16548161
Benadryl makes me sleepy
>>16548166
If i crash the truck I don't get to keep the bikes so.. no.

>>16548154
People who like the powaa and the comfort? Or maybe even the aestheticc.

>>16548171
I've done this in DC before....

>>16548152
Holy shit, learn how to ride.

>>16548174
Sell ninja. Get a bike you can do touring on.
Shits fun

>>16548171
I was fine on the way there
The way back though I partied all night before and didn't sleep left at like 4pm and had benadryl csuse of allergies
Was just a bad combo I promise I don't have sleeping disorder
>>16548182
How to ride? I was driving though and won't make same mistake this time

>>16548190
>>16548174
Fucking onion lol god damn dude you are 100% retarded

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Congrats, no wonder /dbt/ is fucking dead. Shitposting drz meme bikes and dirtfags in general have destroyed something that used to the best thing on 4chan.

>>16548178
That's like buying a Lincoln Town car for in city driving.

>>16548194
Dude this shit just got good

>>16548194
I like the dirtbike riders.

>>16548194
>having autism

>>16547852
Surely won't happen, US is the biggest bike market on earth and manufacturers are rich af. Scare tactics anon

>>16548190
>sleeping disorder
No mother fucker you have a mental disorder

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>>16548181
But did you think it wasnt bad that you totaled your car?
>>16548190
So your saying you wont make the same mistake of driving on meds? Idk man id put you in the bed of the truck and leave you there.

>>16548194
Fuck off, Moot. You don't even post OC.

>>16548194
It's the middle of fucking winter. About the only thing there is to ride is dirt. Roads are shit and it's fucking cold unless you're in the deep south.

>>16548209
>>16548193
>>16548210
:(
I guess I can make harley bro drive

>>16548196
Sounds like a good idea to me.

>>16547774
I miss the r1 guy meme, I havn't seen it posted in ages :(

>>16548194
Whats wrong with dirt?
You mad cuz you have no skill?

>>16548196
I see nothing wrong with that.

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Riding in the socal storm about to hit rincon trail.

>>16548210
What does jumping off to hit a crossing switch have to do with totalling a car?

>>16548210
I see what was wrong yes
I learned from my mistakes
I was 16 and really dumb
Now I'm 25 and just kinda dumb apparently

>>16548212
I don't Australians anymore, just dirtbikes fren

>>16547852
Why the fuck would this do anything to help US motorcycle manufacturers?
There is not a single competitive small-displacement bike made by a US firm.

>>16548227
He thought u were the onion guy

>>16548226
I like your lighting setup.

>>16548216
That sounds like a good idea.
Harley bro sounds like a responsible guy.
>unlike you.

>>16548237
Custom made bracket, let me see if I got a better pic.

>>16548228
You've had 9 years to figure that out.
Do you trust yourself with a truck full of your friends for 20 hours?

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Lighting bracket.

>>16548231
That's exactly the point. It creates a domestic market where there wasn't any. Couple this with tax breaks and deregulation, and somebody here will start building something.

>>16548247
I thought so..
But I'll ask one of my roommates in case

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>>16548216
Good Idea just make sure he doesn't fuck you all when your sleeping.
>>16548227
How does totaling a car have anything to do with motorcycles?
>>16548228
Learn from your mistakes.

>>16548260
>hey bro can u drive instead?
>why?
>dbt made fun of me.

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>>16548219
>dirtbikes take skill to ride

anon, pls

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>>16548254
i fucking hate people who use broad led headlights like that on the road, they will blind oncoming traffic.

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>>16548265
Go back to your smooth flat safespace

If someone just would just give Hazan lifetime patronage the US could be the centre of some innovative and artistic motorcycle revival of sorts. Dudes a genius relly

>>16548260
Why dont you guys switch every 6 hours or something?
Theres 3 of you why is your spineless ass driving for 20 hours?

>>16548254
Pretty cool. Did you add any weather protection for the wiring behind it or does it all seem okay with being open?

>>16548281
I didnt mind
mostly cause it's my truck
>>16548264
:(

>>16547834
What is your opinion on 630 huskies? How is the reliability?

>>16547973
Remember motorcycles tilt towards the sidestand on a bed. Sometimes facing them in opposite directions will let them fit.

>>16548297
Good point we will try that if they don't fit straight in

>>16548259
We all know what kind of bikes Mericants build. If it does anything it will just give more business to the Big Four companies.

>inb4 they impose the same restrictions on Jap bikes
Then Mericans who just want to ride good bikes will be forced to pay out the ass for foreign or suffer probably quite a good many years while domestic manufacturers try to build something that isn't junk.

>>16548292
>:(
Is snowflake upset?
Need a safe space?

>>16547987
>My mother gave me those

The accumulated BBC drippings should make them weigh as much as a sand bag so they aren't likely to blow out. Avoid riding in the rain or your truckbed may look like a vanilla milkshake and smell like Amy Schumer's breath.

>>16548307
Lol no
The reactions were funny
I trust myself enough to not kill them on the way there
Harley bro isn't driving my truck the seat will smell like his ass beard

>>16548313
>not kill them on the way there
Cause youre going to kill them when u get there right?

>>16548305
HURR DURR MERICAN BIKES IZ JUNK...

Nobody tries because there's no profit in it. EBR and Motoczyz have already proved capable of building revolutionary and competitive motorcycles, but can't compete economically because the deck is stacked against them.

>>16548125
>I wouldn't be surprised the Harleyfag doesn't want to

He's gay if he won't unless your route has some horrid weather. Shit, my wife rode here Shovelhead long distance all the time as I did my Evo FXR. Harleys are made for cruising. Their riders used to be.

Any of those bikes will get to Daytona. My chopperbro rode a rigid CB 450 there and back from SC.

>>16548319
No hes going to kill them on the way back just like he did to his mother in the 'car accident' his last trip
>the pillows
>all in one vehicle
>he will blame it on the benadryll again
>inherit his roomates bikes

>>16548259
Nah, someone will just move an assembly plant. Honda used to make Wings in Ohio. Some VTX too IIRC.

>>16548259
You know why there wasn't a domestic market before? Because American firms suck ass at producing decent small bikes at acceptable prices. Beginners will just buy jap small bikes instead, and if the same restrictions will be applied to jap bikes, they'll get larger displacement bikes, if the only alternative is an american hunk of shit at 7000 bucks.

>>16548320
Harley management sabotaged EBR because they are fucking incompent. Also ugly frames didn't help.

>>16548335
That's fine too. As long as they are built here, they should be exempt from tariffs. Whether new companies spring up or existing manufacturers move here, USA wins either way.

>>16548334
Onion is to dumb to plan that.

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saving this thread

>>16548339
>Because American firms suck ass at producing decent small bikes at acceptable prices.

The history behind that is Honda beat them to the punch by innovative casting and machining. The margins on small bikes are not worth it for a US firm. The name of the game is money. Honda have the most successful internal combustion engines in history (even more than Model T Ford and aircooled VW) because they did it right and sold globally.

>>16548346
>USA wins either way
except when the bike you want suddenly costs 25% more

>>16548342
Agreed. But it still exists.

>>16548349
Enjoy your ban.

>>16548349
Doesn't every thread get archived anyway?

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I am looking for a good motorcycle toolkit. Any recommendations. Currently looking at this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002YPRL9C/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=marketorder-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B002YPRL9C&linkId=4b9bf371df4ef112e79a508967b9f4b2

>>16548347
Maybe hes not? This is part of the cover up
>make it look like an innocent trip
>have fun and put happy pictures on fb
>kill them and pretend to be sad
Hes a murderer

>>16548363
>$45
>for $10 worth of tools
Wew

>>16548361
He meant posting racy bike pics to "save" the thread. Anon is bored.

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>>16548349

>>16548351
The standard infant industry argument.
It is indeed possible that american manufacturers will somehow capture a good portion of that market.
Call me a pessimist though, it seems unlikely.
Maybe, maybe if one of the major player decides to launch a new sub-brand, markets it properly and, of course, builds a good-quality, affordable small bike.
But even then they'd have to compete with the compelling option of higher-displacement imported bikes (a la SV650).

>>16548305
The owner of indian was saying they might come out with sport bikes in future generations. Something to compete with EBR. That would be cool

>>16548363
What tools do you need? There's still holiday sales on husky and craftsman shit

>>16548352
Sounds like the cheap Jap bike will cost the same as the Harley now.

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>>16548371

/dbt/ is literally getting weird desu :^)

>>16548079
Vaca to Florida? When and what area

>>16548370
Oh i see.
>>16548366
If onion is smart im a fucking astronaut
>>16548383
It comes and goes in waves

>>16548363
Just figure out what you need and buy items seperately.

>>16548385
I doubt the murderer in still here but he said jacksonville. Dont think he said when.
>He knows how to keep you from stopping him.

>>16548262
post bp

>>16548375
That market share is also not a large one so investing in it is questionable. Littlebikes not only compete with motorcycles, but quads.

>>16548376
They just dropped Victory because ugly Boomercruisers (despite excellent engines) is a saturated market. Sportbikes are also a saturated market. There's nothing in the way of epic improvements to be made and the toolup cost is brutal. Polaris has great engine skillz but no currently suitable powerplants. They could buy Rotax and be part of the herd, but it's still a dangerous move.

>>16548398
Dude he's not Killin anyone chill

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>>16548305

Electric vehicles are the future, and America is leading not just with Tesla.

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/

http://lightningmotorcycle.com/

http://zelectricvehicle.com/

>>16548404
plz no

>>16548402
That's fine. The thunder stroke is pretty good so far from what I hear. Now they're gonna integrate the victory folks with them. I'm excited to see what they do together in the future.

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>>16548411

>>16548313
When are you guys going?
Feel like meeting up for a ride?

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>>16548411
>>16548427

Meant to post this

>>16548411
>hurr durr but what about muh ICE noise
Literally Harleyfags of the future.

>>16548433
No thanks fbi man
Seriously though we're leaving on the 3rd
I didnt kill my mother she's still alive lol

>>16548411

Yep, attention whores will have to find a new hobby, and people that really enjoy riding will be happy with the reliability, cheap charging, instant torque, brake longevity, and cleaner air. I don't see the downside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzmUob02pQk

>>16548404
I was actually just about to bring them up in response to another poster. The likes of Zero won't solve the main problem that is range and charge time but I guess getting their name and bikes out there in the meantime might give them something of a headstart on the Big Four and Euro brands when they eventually take electric a little more seriously.

>>16548181
>dc
cbr600f4i guy?

>>16548363
I've been putting together road bags since the late '70s. I suggest you go over your motorcycle and use that to determine what tools to bring. I wouldn't buy that kit as the quality looks questionable.

Assuming you don't have a Harley, I suggest a 3/8" drive ratchet, 3 inch extension, a universal, 10mm and 12mm sockets plus any sockets common hardware suggests, a decent Crescent style wrench that fits your axle nuts unless your toolkit came with one that doesn't suck, a folding set of metric hex keys, a quality multitool (I wear one everyday so I don't put in tool kit), and a JIS screwdriver kit like

https://www.amazon.com/Bessel-Vessel-Difference-Screwdrivers-No-220w-3/dp/B00E55DL4I/ref=pd_sim_263_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00E55DL4I&pd_rd_r=4063JJBC4048QWV1EH0V&pd_rd_w=kZupr&pd_rd_wg=l3NyF&psc=1&refRID=4063JJBC4048QWV1EH0V

I have two of those.

Scotch brand electrical tape is useful, and don't omit a spark plug socket.

You can tweak above over time. The old trick of buying one tool every payday, no matter how trivial it may seem, pays off.

If you can find a service manual for your machine or close enough online, download and save to your phone.

>>16548404
There's even italian baikus for special snowflakes

http://www.energicamotor.com/

>>16548404
I'm also excited to see the electric powered indian since victory was canned. I'm sure the purist will be Uber pissy

>>16548349
lewd

>>16548404
>Electric vehicles are the future

That future will arrive when it arrives. I'll let the early adopter richfags pay for the R&D just like I do graphics cards.

>>16548349
You're the hero this thread needs, doing gods work

>>16548451
>Yep, attention whores will have to find a new hobby

Japanese cartoon stickers all over electric baiku when?

>>16548404
>>16548411
I had always wondered if there is anything else to do in case the batteries on your electric vehicle crap out, other than calling the tow truck.

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>>16548451
>reliability

>5 thousand dollar battery dies in 5 years and baiku is now a paperweight

>>16548440
groce. at least the lightning looks ok.

>>16548441
Yep. I'll say this for Harley, they're trying to fight value drift. I don't like the place they drew the line, but at least they drew one.

>>16548451
>mfw electric motorcycles will be computer-controlled, top-speed-limited, have mandatory autopilots, be impossible to work on without proprietary dealer codes, and never match the range or the performance/price of gasoline
>mfw ICEs will be banned anyway
>mfw this is the future you chose

Maybe I'm wrong. I'd be willing to put up with weak or artificial engine notes in exchange for electric motorcycles that didn't fall victim to the above. But that's absolutely where we're going.

>>16548451
I dunno anon, have you heard an Electric Bike at full tick? It sounds like going to the dentist

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>>16548401
I already have stop being thirsty.
>inb4 manlet
your moms insults are bad and you should feel bad.

>>16548482
Yeah because the battery being dead makes all the other components of the bike fall apart. You couldn't just like... put a new battery in it.

>>16548488
i would lick your feet after a long ride

>>16548459
Triumph Thunderbird

>>16548484
>and never match the range or the performance/price of gasoline
t. someone who thinks he can see into the future

>>16548495
This won't be the regular car 12v battery though. And it'll cost like buying a medium used car.

>>16548447
How long are you staying?
Its going to be awkward to ask again but, feel like a group ride when you guys get here?

>>16548481
Nope. No alternate power method means tow time.

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>>16548495

>After 300 to 500 cycles at 100 percent depth of discharge, a lithium-ion cell’s capacity will drop to 70 percent.

>bike loses 30 percent of capacity after 300 rides

>>16548495
That may not be cost-effective. If you roach an engine on most modern motorcycles the bike becomes an organ donor unless you score one off salvage or Ebay.

It's all about the money.

>>16548495
For the price of a whole fucking bike

Motorcycle IC engines are so small and relatively uncommon that they are the absolute last thing we should be deprecating because "fuck fossil fuels lol"
>but Co2 mayang
Fuck africa, we're getting nicer weather in seattle

>>16548505
say they do. are you ok with the rest? is the future you envision
>GSXE1000s that can do 0-300 in 10 sec (once you shave down the throttle stop and add an aftermarket battery cooler and type sudo restrict--off into your terminal) selling for $5000 on the used market

or is it

>New Urbanism and self-driving scooters for everyone

?
>

>>16548516
Tesla will solve all your problems, don't worry.

Bike IC engines also run fine on LP, NG, hydrogen, and alcohol if suitably equipped. Few bother because petrol is cheap in advanced countries.

>>16548519
>It's all about the money.
Obviously which is why manufacturers will have to find a way to make electric motorcycling affordable for the average person or their business will fail.

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>>16548512
Sure? No way you could bring the battery back just so to get home using one of those?

>>16548523
Hopefully both.

>>16548516
>After 300 to 500 cycles at 100 percent depth of discharge, a lithium-ion cell’s capacity will drop to 70 percent.

that means if you run it 100% dead you moron

>>16548508
Not that anon. But go to bike week. I'll ride with you anon

>>16548505
Yes anon, an alien spaceship is going to fucking crash in the middle of LA and we're going to lift some amazing battery technology from it and end this stagnation thing we've had going on for the past decade

>>16548528
The problem is, when everyone drives an electric car because they only need it for a 20-100 round trip commute a day, plus a shopping trip, where are you going to get gas for the motorcycle? Are you going to buy it in bulk every month?

Or are you going to enjoy your single 100 mile round trips interrupted by 5 hour charges, with that 100 dropping to a 70 in a year?

>>16548540
Oh never mind, 80 mile round trips for ten years

So much better

>>16548541
Sweet when's that

>>16548508
>wants to meet the murderer
Dont do it!

>>16548544
>implying a majority of your rides are more than 80 miles
luddites will do anything to justify their irrational hatred of future technologies

>>16548544
>lets just live in the past forver
okay grampa

>>16548545
March 10th to 19th. I'll be there the 16th - 19th

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>yfw Harley-Davidson starts making fast bikes

>>16548544
Daily reminder that people like this were arguing that horseless carriages were stupid and impractical 120 years ago

>“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

>>16548549
When I'm off work I Hanne no problem burning through an entire tank of gas in a day or two

>>16548505
>t.

pls go back to your safespace

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>>16548540
> Drain the batteries consistently to only 50 percent, as is often the case with electric cars that get plugged in frequently, and life expectancy of a healthy battery zooms up to 1,200 to 1,500 cycles.

>>16548572
Have*

>>16548562
Batteries are a fuel source, not a paradigm shift. Faggot.

>>16548549
>"what more do you need" hipsterism
what happens when you want to go further? rent an ICE bike and pay a massive "sorry for polluting" tax for the day?

Electric motorcycle = hobby machine
ICE motorcycle = practical mode of transport

If you dislike the pollution and muh fossil fuels run it on alcohol and slap 30lbs of emissions filters on it

>>16548551
>falling for the it's newer so it's better meme
EVs are literally older than motorcycles.

>>16548560
it would confuse me and I don't know how i'd feel about it. Didn't they try that with EBR or Buell or what ever? and it died in the arse

>>16548583
>>16548583
Beul was doomed since they had to rely on slow harley ICEs

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>>16548496
Thats pretty gay.

>>16548579
You should not be covering large distances on a motorcycle. Doing so increases your chances of injury or death. How are you supposed to do what your employer asks you to when you're sweaty from wearing gear and just broke your collarbone two hours ago? Grow up and keep the bikes to the weekend - stay a productive citizen and take your car to work.

>>16548597
I know you're trolling/sarcastic
But that upset me.

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>>16548579
>>16548577
>these mental gymnastics

Must be in the denial stage of grieving, funny because the internal combustion engine isn't even dead yet

>>16548603
Your life is not your own. We are all born with a debt to the community. To be selfish is to steal from the people who care about you. Submit. Buy a prius.

Is onion still here? I have a question.

>>16548606
Electric vehicles are DOA :^)

>>16548606
>point out that something is less functional
>mental gymnastics

enjoy your toy motorcycle

it can go sit with the 30mpg liter peters

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>>16548621
>tesla share price steadily rising
>EV ownership has become widespread
>infrastructure coming into place
>battery technology advancing
>even harley made an electric bike
>"b-b-but EV's are a failure!"

>>16548620
What's the question?

>>16548637
>implying all motorcycles aren't toys

>>16548621

>inefficient machines aren't getting replaced with anything superior

I believe you're in denial. The noise and heat from internal combustion engines just waste too much energy.

>>16548638
>>EV ownership has become widespread
[citation needed]

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https://about.bnef.com/blog/electric-vehicles-to-be-35-of-global-new-car-sales-by-2040/
>New research by Bloomberg New Energy Finance suggests that further, big reductions in battery prices lie ahead, and that during the 2020s EVs will become a more economic option than gasoline or diesel cars in most countries.

>Lithium-ion battery costs have already dropped by 65% since 2010, reaching $350 per kWh last year. We expect EV battery costs to be well below $120 per kWh by 2030, and to fall further after that as new chemistries come in.

luddites BTFO

>>16548579
>Electric motorcycle = hobby machine
Only due to range which will increase whether you want to believe it or not.

>implying the most practical use of a motorcycle isn't single person city commutes
>implying electric bikes aren't perfect for this

>>16548645
see
>>16548653
>Electric vehicles to be 35% of global new car sales by 2040
>2015 ... EV sales are estimated to have been 462,000, some 60% up on 2014.

come on guys it's the 21st century
>not wanting an electric motor
>wont have to shift
>always in the powerband
>torks everywhere
>no more faggot obnoxious harleys
>being so seriously in denial that you will ignore the mountains of scientific evidence and market research put in front of you by literally everyone on earth

>>16548641
How far on the spectrum are you?

>>16548668
>>wont have to shift
t. busrider

lithium-ion a shit

>>16548644
But they offer significantly better range, shorter refueling times, the ability to be refueled in seconds while nowhere near a charging station or other vehicle, and have been proven to be able to last for hundreds of thousands of miles with only basic weekend maintenance.

I haven't seen any 300k mile harley lightnings laughing at all the F4is around, and what really matters for a mode of transportation? You can say "bikes are just for fun bro" but in the end, it's transportation, and if it fails, you're going to be calling for a tow while some guy on an ethanol-fueled sportbike is digging into his backpack for that spare fuel can that'll get him another 60 miles after about ten seconds of work. Your spare battery, if you have one? Doubtful to get you as far, and probably much heavier

This might change but in the meantime, I'll sit on my bike and eat popcorn while early adopters get fucked in the ass of their own volition.

>>16548668
>don't have to shift
this is why teslas lose power beyond the amerifat benchmark speed.

>torks for days
>no gearing

>>16548678
"i only drive manual" fedoralord detected

>>16548669
I'm assuming mild aspergers, not diagnosed.

>>16548668
>>wont have to shift
Please don't trigger them any more. As someone from a country where basically everyone drives manual I found /o/ particularly funny when I first visited because of all the faggots who think shifting gears is some kind of incredible skill that makes them a notch above 'regular drivers'.

>>16548596
Yeah I know. Nice Dainese tho fag.

>>16548679
>gets completely BTFO with facts
>m-muh standing mile

lmao

what's it like there back in the 20th century?

>>16548686
There's not having to shift when you don't want to, and then there's not being able to shift at all because you only have one gear ratio.

>>16548679
This i why I can't jump on the electric hype train yet
Batteries need significant improvement before they can replace ice
I'm sure someday we will have a way to go 500 miles on a 10 minutes charge but not yet

>>16548688
>get BTFO
>say it was the other guy who got BTFO
>type in stutters and set up a straw man

e-e-e-electric vehicles will get good guys i swear and m-m-m-m-m-muh stock market will never crash, p-past performance is indicative of future success gaiz, i am silly

See, I can do it too.

>>16548668
Harley has an electric bike anon

>>16548699
>I'm sure someday we will have a way to go 500 miles on a 10 minutes charge
We do
>its called gasoline

>>16548706
Was for
>>16548695

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Motorcycles with mini-stellarators when

>>16548544
>everyone drives an electric car

By that time I'll be decades dead, and for a long time fuel will remain available for trucks and heavier vehicle use cases. Are you an autist or just trolling?

I like future tech but the future isn't here yet so it doesn't concern me yet. I can adapt to anything because I'm a skilled mechanic. When batteries crush everything else I'll put them to work serving me. It's all about me.

IRL expect many years of MIXED fuel and power options because the vehicle world is diverse and no one cares about your autism.

I already stock some bulk non-ethanol fuel because I use it for various small gas engines (that battery power cannot yet replace, good luck with battery powered chainsaws!) so if it came to that I'd still be effortlessly covered. I'm in easy reach of LP, CNG, and if I got silly enough my local welding supply will happily sell me hydrogen and even propylene if I wanted to experiment.

We won't run out of or stop using CNG and LP in my lifetime and electric cars don't replace CNG and LP. I can convert my generator, one of my trucks, and any of my HDs in a weekend. Unlike you I actually follow the real mechanical world because it's one of my lifetime interests.

I'll be covered and have fun doing it.

>>16548544
As less people buy gas the prices will go down :^)

>>16548597
>You should not be covering large distances on a motorcycle. Doing so increases your chances of injury or death.

Most injuries are in local travel, not long distance trips. Troll harder.

>Ride to get tacos
>or sushi?

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>>16548478

>EV batteries and motors become too dangerous to modify
>people instead add LEDs and waifu pillows

>>16548613
>Submit. Buy a prius.

Uncle Sugar owes me a Prius. Gibsmedat and I'll turn in one of my motorcycles. It's a Honda so it won't be missed and I want PHEV conversion to drive to da store to buy steak with muh mincome.

>>16548701
yes that was the point
>in the future all bikes are electric
>harleys are also electric
>no more old faggots with straight pipes revving their shit obnoxiously

>>16548699
>stock market
lol what the fuck are you talking about you dumb nigger

jesus christ /dbt/ is some of the dumbest people on earth i swear

>p-past performance is indicative of future success gaiz

Market and industry research is indicative of future success. I'll take Bloomberg's word for it over some dickhead on 4chan lol

>get BTFO with facts and evidence
>use some typical 4chan argument buzzwords and not actual evidence

Sad! You could at least try to come up with some "alternative facts" to try to dispute the reality of the situation, but all you can do is stammer

>>16548733
Tacos my dude

>Salim Morsy, senior analyst and author of the study, commented: “Our central forecast is based on the crude oil price recovering to $50, and then trending back up to $70-a-barrel or higher by 2040.[2] Interestingly, if the oil price were to fall to $20 and stick there, this would only delay mass adoption of EVs to the early 2030s.”

>The study’s calculations on total cost of ownership show BEVs becoming cheaper on an unsubsidised basis than internal combustion engine cars by the mid-2020s, even if the latter continue to improve their average mileage per gallon by 3.5% per year.

BTFO
T
F
O

>>16548687
thanks bb. Free is best price.

>>16548751
Guy I work with has a Harley touring bike. It's not loud at all with the stock pipes

>>16548781
He is the only guy on earth with stock pipes on a harley

>>16548784
Not really no. You should leave the basement sometimes

>>16548048
It was 2500 dollars and running well. I have a 2003 shadow spirit as well for the smaller Honda niche

>>16548765
Good choice, now..
>authentic
>or tacobell

>>16548349
I want a Ducati now, strange.

>>16548767
So we wait UNTIL the EV fleet is a form and fit replacement for our individual use case. That's smart, not BTFO you mong. Vehicles are disposable consumer goods and most will eventually hit the shredder. Use what serves you. IDGAF about anyone else. That's their problem.

Also your cited EV estimate doesn't include every vehicle type and use case but you knew that when you trolled. Motorcycles are the hardest to form-and-fit replace because of size and weight constraints. Cars are easy. Trucks are more difficult because they must be capable of towing loads often in excess of their own weight. I'd fucking LOVE an EV work truck since I could tap power for welders and compressors instead of having a genset or using shore power, but only a few prototypes are in use so far. It's a higher hurdle than a Tesla.

>>16548858
Are you a dog? because if you aren't the answer should be obvious.

>>16548858
Hmm. Depends on how much you hate your body. But ima suggest tacobell. The fat fuck box is where it's at

>>16548857
Vtx still sexual though

>>16548883
>>16548879
The thing is the authentic Mexican place by me is insanely expensive.
I'm talking 15 bucks for a burrito, rice, that stuffed pepper thing. And more for the drink.
Taco bell can fill me up for 4 bucks.

>>16549020
Alternatively
>eat free dinner at gf's then blow $15 at a bar.

>>16548484

>top-speed-limited

You mean like almost every bike currently is?

Isn't it strange that internal combustion motorcycle manufacturers don't advertise horsepower or top speed specs on their websites, but electric motorcycle manufacturers do?

>>16548048
Both VTX are fucking durable machines. My skilled, experienced Honda dealermechbro has ~90K miles on his 1800 with oil changes, tires and basic maintanence. He loves all VTX and could have any Honda he wanted. He beats the fuck out of everything he owns, which are all Hondas except an ancient Guzzi Eldorado he basically abandoned.

>>16549046
>Isn't it strange that internal combustion motorcycle manufacturers don't advertise horsepower or top speed specs on their websites, but electric motorcycle manufacturers do?

No, because insurance. This isn't new and many old musclecars were derated for easier sale back in da day. EVs motorcycles post stats because they need to convince buyers they are viable.

Note lack of EV Kawasaki H2s at the moment.

Coolest EV two wheeler is this. EV powerband natural for trials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REeeYtp-8qE

can i post again

>>16549051
I love mine, that's for sure

>>16549089
No. Fuck off, you're banned.

>>16548544
>Are you going to buy it in bulk every month?
To be fair, this is an option.

>>16548549
>>16548551
>t. progress will never threaten anything I love
Cthulhu eats his followers first, you know.

>>16548613
10/10 psyops

>>16549046
yeah and 1) that's terrible too and 2) thankfully it's fairly easy to circumvent with an ECU flash.

>>16549051
neat, I see a lot of them for cheap on Craigslist. if I wanted to scratch the big cruiser itch that'd be my go-to.

>>16549085

>because insurance

So why isn't the same thing done for sport cars? Wouldn't insurance be cheaper?

>Note lack of EV Kawasaki H2s at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3DiAecsh_0

http://lightningmotorcycle.com/

>>16549126
>http://lightningmotorcycle.com/
>IOM TT Zero: DNF
>TT zero is one lap btw
>senior TT is 6
mm

>>16549133

>implying racing has anything to do with production vehicles

Suzuki has won plenty of races, and their cars sell so poorly that they stopped importing to America.

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New mirrors came today!

>>16549153
Those are tiny
Must have quite the convex to em
Looks nice though

>>16549148
so what you're saying is
>electric motorcycles might very well take off even though they suck from a performance standpoint
?

you'll forgive me if I'm not exactly reassured.

Anyone else use dish soap to wash your bike?
My roommate says it's bad for it
He uses car wash soap I mean that makes sense but how can dish soap hurt a bike?

>>16549153
>i <3 my bike
>buying chingchong ebay mirrors
hmmm

>>16549192
idk how dish soap can hurt a bike but i also use car wash soap

>>16549192
I believe it contains micro abrasives, so it wears at your clearcoat, removing its shine. It also has a high salt content, promoting rust.

>>16549153
*vomits*

>>16549161
They are smaller than I thought but you can see quite well.
>>16549198
I love my bike but im still poor.
They are Rizoma ripoffs and feel well made tho.Even have the rizoma logo on the back. Im pleased with the quality and they were dirty cheap.
>>16549215
Glad you like it!

>>16549216
ya im just rustling yer jimmies i have ebay mirrors too lol

>paying $300 for real rizoma mirrors
ya right

>>16549205
Ah damn I was hoping I could prove him wrong
Also sorry to my bike for using it until now

>>16549224
>>16549192
Onion plz go

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>>16549198
>>buying chingchong ebay mirrors
I'm not him but at least in my country you can get pretty much anything from eBay - I bought an (new) Akrapovič exhaust there and it was neither cheap nor was there any reason to suspect foul play.

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>>16549205
>micro abrasives
>ruins clear coat
wouldn't microabrasives make it shine more? that's exactly what buffing compound does

>>16549245
yeah you can get good stuff on ebay too but i mean the cheap chinese shit that you can *only* buy on ebay

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>>16549176

They're vastly superior from a performance standpoint. The torque of an electric motor is instant, how can internal combustion engines with 200 moving parts hope to compete as battery technology advances?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNehv7N1BHc

>>16549126
>So why isn't the same thing done for sport cars? Wouldn't insurance be cheaper?

Not sure how most sports cars are calculated by ins companies, but actuaries also include crash repair cost and how easy it is to "total" a vehicle. Cars bore me so they aren't my specialty. I'm incidentally familiar with muscle cars because I was interested when they were new. Then motorcycles seduced me and I didn't look back.

>>16549251
It will cut through the the Clearcoat eventualy, leading to fading and paint damage
Probably unlikely tho

>>16549251
you can get it from aliexpress or dealextreme too ;)

>>16549234
Just because I said roommate doesn't mean I'm the onion

>>16549224
You could look up the MSDS for a given dish soap, because all chems must have them online.

If you wash it off I see no problem. I've used Dawn which is aggressive, but I wash my shit at the car wash after initial degreasing then ride it dry. I prefer not to let water sit on engines and electricals.

This is why Dawn is aggressive:

https://www.pg.com/productsafety/sds/SDS_2016/Ultra_Dawn_Original.pdf

>>16549267
well yeah... eventually. but youd have to wash thousands of times for that

>>16549262
>They're vastly superior from a performance standpoint
if your benchmark is 0-60 launch, sure

clearly not by the IOM TT results

>>16549299
>if your benchmark is 0-60 launch, sure

That's what it is for most cars and bikes, since you can't get to track speeds on public roads.

Are Cleveland Cyclewerks bikes any good? I'm looking around for my first bike and for the price of a used Kawasaki EX250 I could get something like a new CCW Misfit 2. Am I missing something?

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>>16547774
What does /dbt/ thinks about the Benelli TNT 300?
I'm seriously considering getting one but probably I'll wait for the rumored 400cc with ABS version.
The other options I have is the MT03 but it's way more expensive or the Rajesh Dominar 400 with ABS who still isn't in my country's market (it might be cheaper, with ABS, but with a smaller fuel tank and heavy as fuck)

>>16549310
>you can't get to track speeds on public roads.
You can where I'm at
Nothing but mile long stretches of boring bull shit

>>16547788
>person in background riding in sandals

>>16549322
cuck bike, get a gs

>>16549332
>get a ninja 250
Ftfy

>>16549176
>>16549299

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke-3UuQycJM

>>16549339
>dirt
No one cares
Show my some track times on tarmac

>>16549346

movinggoalposts.png

>>16549357
He isn't part of this convo
he's trying to stir shit

>>16549336
> recommending a cuck bike over a cuck bike
Nice job dude.

>Saw this daily bike thread a year ago
>since then got licence, gear and a bike

Love every moment riding, thank you /o/

>>16549384
Post bike and sister, faggot.

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>>16549406

>>16549357
can't speak for >>16549346, but my goalpost has always been IOM TT

>>16549442
I can't see your sister.

>>16549462
*over six laps with max two pit stops, like the gas bikes. not the one lap like the TT Zero.

>>16549319
I'd buy a used Jap bike rather than a new CCW Chinese parts machine. Small company equals tiny dealer support and no aftermarket. No CCWs have made it to my area yet but it's another Chinese clone engine. I prefer Japanese quality control even when they sometimes farm out production.

Always look for popular, proven machines when buying a firstbike and that's not a bad idea for anybike. Let someone else be the beta tester.

>>16549322
Might want to check on the several Benelli forums. I've not worked on one.

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>>16549653
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>>16549653
>>16549653
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