WTF is this guys problem

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>Americans will stop mass importing jdm and bring the prices back down to early 2000s level again.

feels good man

>americans will finally lose access to good cars and will be forced to drive their domestic shitheaps

Lmao, thanks trump.

>>16547068
>guy on the lower left is like "Can you believe the shit coming out of this moron's mouth?

>>16547071
>americans
>mass importing JDM

It's only just become legal to import cars made in 1992. Please shut the fuck up, dumb strayaposter. All of the good cars still can't be touched by the US.

Trumps still going to let us all buy cheap skylines right?

>>16547084
his policies have no effect on the used market. I believe he's referring to the fact the top 10 best selling cars in America are pretty much all Japanese.

>>16547088
>implying flooding the market with cheap high quality used cars wouldn't effect sales of new cars

>>16547088
8 out of 10 are Japanese on is Korean, why not fix the underlying problem with domestic cars rather than impose tariffs?

>>16547095
Because Trump is a retard
>>16547091
That's why we have the 25 year import law. If it wasn't sold here and doesn't have an equivalent model, you have to wait 25 years to import.

>>16547088

You do realise these cars are manufactured in the USA and 80% of the parts are from the US aswell.

>>16547135
do you honestly think Trump cares? He sees the badge of a Japanese company and immediately thinks import.

>>16547068
good
>>16547071
as a ausfag that just lost the very last car maker here this.

Imports killed our cars

>ISDS [Part of TPP] would allow foreign companies to challenge U.S. laws — and potentially to pick up huge payouts from taxpayers — without ever stepping foot in a U.S. court.

b-but muh jdm tyte

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kill-the-dispute-settlement-language-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership/2015/02/25/ec7705a2-bd1e-11e4-b274-e5209a3bc9a9_story.html?utm_term=.bba52c70008a

>>16547160
Unions killed the local industry faggot.

>i need 100k per year to fit this one panel!

All those overpaid union cunts are now in financial therapy to cope with getting normal wages since their being overpaid caused them to have their workplace close down.

>>16547135
You do realize that manufacturing costs isn't the only thing contributing to a vehicles price.

>>16547160
TBF they were only making sedans and wagons here weren't they? They could've made some quality cars that people wanted (ie not V8 commos) and they'd probably still be around today. Even if that means crossovers and hatchbacks.

If Volvo of Sweden can be competitive and make genuinely nice cars, I don't see why Holden couldn't. Mind you I imagine a lot of the decisions came from GM, probably screwed them over a bit.

t. Commodore operator.

>>16547179
A lot came down from GM.

>generally more reliable than American or European vehicles
>generally cheaper than American or European vehicles

I still don't understand how the Jap's make their cars so good. Our family has had many used cars, including an 89 Caprice, 87 Dodge Lancer, Ford F150, 96 Cirrus, and an 04 Mazda 6. All those cars had major mechanical problems with them as time went on, yet our 92 shitbox Camry that was literally saved from being sent to the junkyard with 250K+ miles on it was the one that would never give us any major problems. And even so, the only thing it was sent in for was for a timing belt replacement once it broke - twice.

>>16547071
One can dream

>>16547196
a combination of cultural work ethic that gets pounded into every kid growing up (which sure has it drawbacks as well) and very early adoption of cutting edge data analysis in manufacturing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_process_control#History

>"If, as an example, we sell a car into Japan and they do things to us that make it impossible to sell cars in Japan ... we have to all talk about that," he said. "It's not fair."
It's not about protecting the US domestically, it's about making it easier for the US to sell in Japan.
>implying the Japanese would even want American cars

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>people voted for a whiny manchild as president

all the US has to do is build better cars but seeing as America has done nothing but produce shit for decades on top of decades it will never happen

>>16547231
Basically this. I remember reading a book about Police culture in Japan is its a polar opposite from the rest of the world. Its basically a disgrace to yourself and everyone you know if you fuck up.

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Domestics are greatly more reliable than imports don't believe the marketing hype. Toyota = Trash

GM makes a better product than Toyota, charges a lower price and yet they are outsold, does anyone trust the veracity of these numbers?

Obama did nothing for the auto industry but send jobs overseas and make it easier for cheap imports to take a huge share of the market. Absolutely sickening.

>>16547678
>>people voted for a whiny manchild as president
More voted for HC

>>16547692
there was no way to win the election so I think the electors just chose who would be the most hilarious

>>16547151

>Trump
>he

That is a primarily American way of thinking.

>HURRRRT DA TUNDRA IS AN IMPURT

To buy a tundra in Japan you have to import it from America

>>16547701
>electors
Putin is an elector not electors.

>>16547176
that was nafta you dumb fuck

>>16547160
who cares, our cars just weren't as good. It's our own fault

>>16547685
>being this fucking delusional

>>16547712
NAFTA didn't kill the engineers, marketers and board of directors. GM it Ford at any time has the resources to make a car as good as can be, but they usually just don't

>>16547729
Yeah but if we shipped all the plants to wherever the fuck they did and hired cheaper labor the engineers, marketers and board of directors are useless

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>>16547080

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>posts picture of Gabriel
>muh whiny manchild
lol

>>16547733
That wouldn't kill the industry. Americans don't really care where the vehicle itself is made, more about where the company is based out of.

Nafta if anything should have helped vehicle sales by reducing prices, which it did. Problem is not many people want to drive a heavy plastic filled domestic product.

People want a good product, no trade deal can make people want to buy an inferior product

>>16547752
Yeah but do you understand the issue with this right?

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>>16547741

>>16547752
>kit kat !0CATsq0Myk

hang yourself

>>16547196
Or its that they shove their way into markets and replace everyone with one of their own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiretsu

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Get with the program. We're Making America Great Again

>>16547826
What is it? I can't tell under all that plastic.

>>16547840
Pretty sure its an ls1

>>16547760
Your issue is that it takes american jobs. My response to that is that if you want to protect the jobs, stop trying to prevent an economic movement. I'm sure blacksmiths who made horseshoes were fighting tooth and nail against the automobile but the fact of the matter is that the market determines things like this. Forcing domestic companies to manufacture domestically instead of Mexico or Canada means that the same cost is now put on the only other side of the equation, the consumer

>>16547826
looks and sounds like its getting worse tbqh

>>16547869
This

>>16547752
>Americans don't really care where the vehicle itself is made, more about where the company is based out of.

You say that what car took the top spot in 2015 as the most American-Made car with over 75 percent of its parts and manufacturing coming from the United States?

What was the best selling car of 2106 in the USA?

The Toyota Camry answers both questions. People weren't buying it for the looks or interesting drive.

>>16547725

Checkout his picture title.

>>16547892
No people buy the Camry/Civic/corolla because they're cheap to operate, cheap to buy, well equipped, get good gas mileage and are reliable as old faithful.

If you asked the average person where those cars are made, they'd usually be baked that they were produced in the US.

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>>16547685
Underrated post

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> he's going to impose massive tariffs on cars manufactured abroad
> my wrx value will triple overnight
Feels good man

>>16547082
You're a fucking retard
Grey market imports =/= official imports you fucking imbecile.

>>16547068
The real problem is that American car makers can't compete with the quality and reliability of Japanese car makers

>>16547950

>Fuji-heavy somehow gets even more overpriced

Better hope they keep giving loans to vape-lords anon.

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>>16547972
**Cough cough**

>>16547692
Who cares that's irrelevant

>Kit Kat is a raging liberal retard
I'm not surprised. But I guess it's only natural when you're a litteral nu-male.

>>16547993
I'm talking about consumer models not sports cars. Gmc has had so many large fuck ups in the last decade and make their cars out of shit

>>16547858
Only if the producer is too greedy to not demand a 7 figure salary

>>16548009
This.

>>16548009
That's a very socialist ideology. You do know companies are in business to make money. If you're the head of a company, your goal is to make a lot of money.

>>16547989
Why would I benefit from vapefags spending their rent money on car payments?

>>16548029
And consumers desperately want to spend all of their money on crappy unreliable cars?

>>16548042
Literally what I've been doing the whole time. That's why it's the fault of the execs, engineers and marketers for not selling a car people want to buy. It has nothing to do with where the car was manufactured.

>>16548009
and you've figured out the inherent problem with all of america

>>16548054
It kind of does, some Americans feel a sense of patriotism and supporting American companies even though they also make cars completely outside of the US. I also believe that marketing teams can effectively market a shit product that people would buy even if it's shit. Mix that with things like consumer reporting being unreliable as fuck in determining whether a car is good or not the only thing you can really rely on is your own research and what you already know. The car Industry isn't apparent enough for Companies like Gmc to go under for their shit quality

>>16547997
Democracy
>irrelevant

Welcome to murka

>>16548099
America isn't a democracy and the presidential election has never been determined by the population.

>>16547176
>overpaid

median wage at a uaw plant is $5-10/hr less than a import plant

>>16547685
>GM makes a better product than Toyota,
GM made in San Luis Potosí
Toyota made in Kenetuky

>>16548084
Not really. The opposite is just as bad.

>>16548086
See I think we're looking at this from two completely different perspective. If you're in 'Bama or Detroit, odds are you'll drive an Impala or Taurus. But if you are just the average consumer, I do honestly believe that you'll try to buy the best car for the money, which is the cheapest vehicle that happens to be the most reliable and the most "safe."

We've got limited resources (money) so you'll but the best car to fit your needs with that. That just happens to be the Toyota Camry.

>>16547068
I don't know what to tell you OP, it requires you to understand basic economics.
>freeeeeee trade
>there's no tariff on american cars *wink wink*
>meanwhile it's been Jap policy since the 70s to hammer their currency as close to the point of worthlessness as they can manage
So Japan will keep doing their thing calling Americans ebul or something because there's no tariff and fucking stupid people will eat it up.

>>16547151
Half of Toyota's inventory is made outside the US dumbshit

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>>16547741
tell that to the penis ring

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>>16548367
It's fake new people totally false laptimes the corvette is faster and cheaper

>>16548338
All of ford's manufacturing is done outside the us

>>16548467
He's taxing them too Restart

>>16547068
I'll buy ""American"" when they are good

I'll stick to reliable foreign cars that are actually made in the US

>>16547176
Dont forget all the sick days

Toyota shut down in australia because all the workers were turning a single public holiday into plant wide 7 day weekends
and two weeks either side of Christmas holidays they were taking off, so six weeks across the entire plant
And they still had to be paid while the plant was shut down and not making anything

>>16548741
>Restart

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>>16547840
Only Japanese pieces of shit hide their "enignes" under plastic.

wtf i hate trump now

It's 2017
Government has no place restricting freedom to buy whatever the fuck you want unless you're in some dictatorial African pirate nation

People should realize that bottom of barrel work will always be outsourced to chinks gooks and pakis, because it is in best interests of maintaining their life style

Instead of trying to prop up dead industries, why doesn't trump cry and create some new ones... like every other 1st world nation
But of course America is full of dead shits who are only good at standing in a production line making cheese sandwiches for 10 hours a day

>>16548859
Why is everyone on /o/ a globalist shithead

Last thing I expected

>>16548859
this

Trump is literally anti-freedom

>>16548805
You realize American makers do this too

>>16548928
because globalism is awesome you luddite faggot. fuck you and your grandpappy's job.

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>>16548859
pretty ironic that trump advocates authoritarian state run capitalism and hates china

>>16548928
You realize that union protectionism, domestic protectionism, high trade tariffs and restrictions is an extremely socialist and a liberal platform?

>>16549008
>globalism is awesome
Enjoy your pink slip as you're replaced with cheap labor from over seas who will do your job for pennies a day

>>16549028
I don't work at a laborer job, and the rate of unemployment is at pre recession levels. Git gud.

>>16549037
You're still gonna get replaced under globalism (which we aren't under at all) any and all jobs can be easily replaced by cheaper pajeets

>>16549049
I'm not. My job is in the tech industry, specifically dealing solely with domestic cellular telecoms. The odds that our small/medium sized business gets outsourced is less than 1 percent.

>>16549072
>my job is in the tech industry
The most outsourced field next to manufacturing

>>16549093
I love how you're telling me what my job is, thanks I had no idea what I was doing our anything about my company

>>16549028
I'm a highly skilled professional who's in little danger of being automated and who's job can't be easily farmed out to pajeets.

Sorry you flip burgers.

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>>16547112
A retard worth billions of dollars who beat every single thing the entrenched political establishment could throw at him.

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>muh jerbs

kek

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>>16547685
That's weird, i work at a shop and every single chevy and even dodge/jeep has had a similar sticker in their doors so idk where ya'll niggas get your info?

>>16549119
This was meant for
>>16548122

>>16548928
It's all the slushbox econobox dumbfucks that constantly shitpost here from reddit.

POL IS NOT O

THIS IS NOT POL

STOP POSTING POLITICS ON AUTO


THIS THREAD IS TOTALLY OFF TOPIC AND IN NO WAY IS THE OP AUTOMOTIVE RELATED

>>16549143
This is very much /o/ related asshole. It directly affects the industry that the consumption of which this board is based on

>>16549143
Secondary related topics are allowed on all boards.

>>16547967
Yeah.. and grey market imports aren't terribly common in the US. Maybe they will be under new, more lax, regulations.

>>16549028
Translation
""I work for the state and make twice that of a teacher""

he's a crypto-autist

>>16547653
Most big American cars would have no place to park in any of the larger cities, let alone fit on a good portion of their roads.

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>>16549024
>trump advocates authoritarian state run capitalism and hates china
I'll just leave this here

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>>16548805
This is the camaro engine bay. That is also a plastic cover.

>>16547692
Winning the popular vote gives you political capital, it does not hand you the keys to the kingdom.
Clinton campaign was overconfident, had a smug convention party, then skipped persuasion of undecided voters in key states. Trump campaign fucked up a lot but pulled out way ahead in the end because of rallying the base, bringing new retards into their coalition, and their state GOP allies' continuing voter suppression of democrats via voting location closures and purging, as they have done since the Roberts Court gutted the VRA. Russian collusion likely but icing on the cake - more relevant to new admin's post-election policy.

>trump fucks with japs
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

fucking weeb losers

>>16547068

Why would Japan buy amerisharts cuckboxes?

WHY?

wtf is wrong with this kike puppet?

>>16551429
But they're not bad cars though.

They're also one of the last ways you can buy fun and cheap cars and offer a great deal of aftermarket support for many cars.

>>16551150
The VRA is unconstitutional regardless.

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>>16551437
>Why would Japan buy amerisharts cuckboxes?
They seemed to like them well enough to buy a Cavalier.

>>16551482
Did it sold well?

>>16551437
the global fiesta has done great.

People don't realize that the japs will work with Trump to sort all of this out to mutual positivity . He already met with Trump and likes Trump, Japan is a big ally of ours and us of them.

You guys know what the most depressing job in the world is?

A Chevrolet and Cadillac salesperson in Japan.

Japan has no unfair tariffs on imported cars like Burgerland dfoes (chicken tax). It is one the easiest markets to get into, unlike communist China.

If they can't sell their cars is because they are not good, fucking drumpf.

>>16551549
Damn why the fuck didn't I think of visiting some Amerifail steal-yer-shitz when I was in Japan. Would've been hilarys-anus.

>>16547088
Some of the Jap makers are unionized factories in USA. Not bad. Nissan is the only one not union cause fuck them.

>>16551567
I heard somewhere that Japan doesn't allow "foreign manufacturers" to sell cars at official dealerships in Japan. If you want anything American or European it either has to be sold as a rebadged grey import like the Cavalier or sold retail by Takumi's European Imports or something like that. Either that or privately import individual cars. But no simple Chevrolet or Ford dealerships or anything like that

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>>16551492
They sold 30,000 between 1995 and 2000.
The JDM Cavalier also had things you could not get on the American ones:
folding mirrors
wider front fenders
different seat fabric
a molded cover for the inside of the trunk lid
unique tail lights because JDM regulations require an amber turn signal

They all came exclusively with the Oldsmobile 2.4L Twin Cam Quad 4 engine (except 1995 models. Those got a 2.3L Quad 4) from the American spec Cavalier Z24.

Because of the engine's displacement, it couldn't be sold as a compact car in Japan (2.0L being the max engine size allowed in compacts there, so it was subjected to higher taxes. They marketed the Cavalier as a luxury car in Japan instead.

>>16551608
wtf I love Nissan now

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>>16551623
nevermind. You hate them again.

>>16551608
>>16551638
Non-union
CVT in everything that isn't a supercar
END IT

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>>16551608
>Nissan is the only one not union

Based Nissan

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>>16547950
>STis will cost the same used

>>16547071
Youre stupid if you think that. If that were the case then job pay would decrase, like how minimum wage was back in the early 2000s

>>16547071
>Early 2000s American car quality
Jesus Christ no...

I'd rather give all my money to foreigners than supporting the shittiest car industry on the planet.

>>16547176
more lik fucktard Detroit during the first oil crisis of the early 70's by OPEC not having any response with more fuel efficient autos. Do'nt get me started on ford pintos, chevy vegas or chrysler shit boxes.

>>16551692
>Based Nissan
see:
>>16551638
>>16551674

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>>16551952
Holy fuck, how can one car company be so based?

Literally our guys.

>>16547706
>MUH RUSHA
Holy shit, liberals are still crying that Podesta fell for a phishing scam.

ITT: Retards don't read the article and try to mock someone for things they've never said.

>>16552024
t. drumpf's russian handler

Trump is referring to Japanese makers building US spec models in Mexico and Canada. If they want their cars sold here, they need to bring manufacturing here

>>16547685

#alternativefacts
#disagreewiththefacts

>>16552049

Please just fucking kill yourself. Toyota builds cars in Mexico because the plants in the US that build them are at capacity. Rather than spend a ton of money expanding existing facilities, they shift it where they have availability to assemble.

Trump needs to put his money where his mouth is and buy and hire and manufacture his own garbage American. Until he does that he is just an orange prick duping rubes.

>>16552037
Really showed me by crying more. Maybe you shouldn't hire retards that fall for PUT PASSWORD HERE PLS TY emails.

>>16552121
>Rather than spend money expanding facilities...
Too bad, we'll slap a tariff on it. More jobs for us, less for Mexico. You mad, Pedro?

all this shit is gonna do is cause ALL new car prices to rise

>>16552182
Toyota is too big of a company to give a fuck about a tarrif
They will just threaten to import materials instead of using American made materials and out source all the work they can, and pushing any increase of price onto the customer

Toyota can bluff harder than some failed orange businessman

>>16552230
As if they weren't already rising.

The real wakeup call will be when the japs sell their american factories and start importing their cars at higher pricepoints. When all you americans are stuck with american made cars because japanese cars are priced at a premium you'll be a world of suffering.

>>16552297

Americans are already "stuck" with American-made cars, Toyotas included.

>>16552297
And they would do that why?

>>16547080
Most Jap cars for sale in America are made in America anyway, tard.

>>16550783
You're a fucking idiot.

Japan is insanely protectionist and has a lot of cultural pride.
With good marketing the US could easily sell a good number of cars in Japan. Space has nothing to do with it. The Japanese make fuck hueg cars.

Everyone compares the 80's Japanese cars to modern day American ones and it's stupid.
The Japanese aren't cheaper, more reliable, smaller, or more efficient.

>>16552716
>The Japanese aren't cheaper
nissan has a 11k shitbox. mitsubishi has a 13k shitbox that gets 43mpg
more reliable than dodge gm or ford trash

>>16552727
>nissan has a 11k shitbox. mitsubishi has a 13k shitbox that gets 43mpg
and they have no options whatsoever. If you option them up to the equivalent American competitor with the same feature, they will cost you more.

>>16552731
huur they dont come with gm onstar

>>16552739
have you ever driven those base model Mirages or Versas? radios are a fucking option. power windows are an option. EVERYTHING is an option. They are price leaders used for advertising that no one buys. If you equip it similarly to an American Fiesta, Spark or Sonic, it will be more expensive.

>>16552250
More importantly Japan, China, Mexico, Brazil the EU.... will all respond with tariffs against US products. The result will be fewer exports damaging the US economy and imports will be more expensive damaging the US economy.

>>16552748
>radios are a fucking option.
Nope
>power windows are an option.
Nope not since the 90s.

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>>16552748
>radios are a fucking option
at least put some effort in instead of lying. gm shills gtfo

>>16552765
>>16552759
granted I check them when they first came out in 2012. It's probably been made a standard feature since

>>16552121
His MAGA caps and other campaign shit were MUSA, but those often had massive manufacturing delays because the American textile industry doesn't have enough capacity left to handle large orders. It's not even a matter of price anymore, because supply chain, logistics, tariffs, and other costs drive the price of doing business in China up enough that it almost destroys what you saved in paying for labor, and the cost of labor in China isn't as great as it used to be, either. The reason why most Kickstarters for manufactured goods fail is because the people in charge think that it's cheap n' easy as fuck to get shit made in China, when the reality is that it's really fucking hard and you will get your shit pushed in if you go there without a bunch of very experienced and trustworthy people helping you.

The problem in the US is that we don't have much factory capacity or available workers. But I think that's naturally going to change as it starts making more sense for midrange companies to relocate back to the US or move to Central America. The cheapo clothes makers like H&M have moved to places like Bangladesh.

>>16551504
That was a European car.

>>16547068
>ferd, gm cosy up to trump
>still can't beat toyoda in sales
this will happen.

>>16551638
>>16551674
reminder: F1 banned them because it's better than everything else.

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>>16551612
Bullshit

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>>16552853

>>16552834

I dunno. Both of the companies are getting better and are still dominant in the big car business over here but it's going to be a while before they can challenge the Japanese on smaller cars. That might change for GM since Chevy Bolt is looking pretty good and if GM doesn't screw up on the reliability aspect, it could get them back in the game.

>>16547071
wait what?
if there's less cars, prices will be higher

>>16547748
He looks like the lovechild of Hillary and Joseph Fritzl. A woman in disguise.

>>16547068
Minorities and libshits.

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>>16552175
>m-muh emailz muh pizza

meanwhile, the orange russian asset has filled his cabinet with ex goldman sachs, exxon mobile, corrupted politicians that he himself bribed and people who are about to make your interwebs absolute shit

b-but maga amirite