IS THE 1993 CHEVROLET LUMINA AUTOMATIC WITH AESTHETIC COLUMN

worst car I ever owned and column shifts suck

>>16520449
Seriously?

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>>16520420
They're pretty damned reliable, Just make sure to inspect 2 things. Have them put it on a lift to inspect it.
While you're under there, look for rust. If there's rust, walk away.
The second thing to inspect is the rear suspension. The rear independent suspension uses a transverse fiberglass leafspring instead of 2 coil springs. Check that leafspring for cracks, fractures or signs of stress. If that leafspring snaps, the entire rear suspension will collapse on itself. Pic related

>>16520449
you can't into maintenance. They're bulletproof

>>16520459
then this guy goes on to try to make you go into a mistake

enjoy your leaky garbage that will inevitably overheat and die

>>16520465
Stop blowing things out of proportion. The only known problems beyond what I listed are the intake manifold gaskets and you can do that in your driveway in half an hour with basic hand tools...

But if, by some stroke of luck, that has the 3.4L DOHC V6, walk away. Not a bad engine, but when things go wrong, it gets expensive quick.

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The lumina is based on the W body platform, which had a number of cool benefits to itself over other GM platforms of the era. Unlike the cars slightly larger, and slightly smaller, the 3.1L V6 was actually pretty alright, and didn't suffer the same coolant problems the 3.8L did, or the antiquated design that GMs 4 cylinders of the time had.

I does have the downright ugliest interior I've ever seen though (pic related). Personally, I would go for the Century, the car's buick twin. Easier suspension, better build quality, and usually driven a bit less hard than luminas.

>>16520526
>Personally, I would go for the Century, the car's buick twin.
No The Buick Century of the time was on the A-body. The Lumina's W-body twins were the Buick Regal, Pontiac Grand Prix (not the Grand Am. Completely unrelated car), and the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme.

>>16520545
Learn something new every day, thought the regal was on the A body until it's mid 90s redesign.

Still would suggest the Century over the lumina though, all things considered.

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>>16520590
The Century was on the A-body until its 1997 redesign when it switched to the W-body.
of the first gen W-bodies, the Oldsmobile and Pontiacs are my favorites. The coupes especially. So fucking sexy.

>>16520420
Is garbage, why would you want this?

>>16520639
I don't like cars with lots of electronic shit, which unfortunately seems to be literally everything from 2000+

>>16520666
I would look into 1996+ cars. In 1996, OBD2 was standardised, which makes it easier and cheaper to diagnose a problem when something goes wrong. 1996-2001 Luminas should be good enough.

>>16520666
I get that, but you could buy innumerable better cars than this within that stipulation.

If you want a midsize sedan, get a V6 Camry. They even come in coupe form apparently.

>>16520691
>>16520696
I'm looking at old cars (max. year 2000) on autotrader in my city and they're all either 100k+ vintage ferraris, or $600 "project cars" that are unfinished.

>>16520807
why would you willingly restrict yourself to garbage just because

>muh electronics

>>16520813
B-b-but I thought they don't make them like they used to.

>>16520848
old cars are shittier than new ones almost universally in every category

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>>16520857
Are you a jew shill?

>>16520879
just a logical thinking human

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>>16520887
You're not jewish though, right?

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>>16520890
no

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>>16520890
>>16520904
Well that was boring

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>>16520904
I'm starting to reconsider buying the $1200 beater and just getting a 2012 civic...

>>16520420
looks like something a nigger would love to drive

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>>16520936
I'm white but other white people don't talk to me because I'm an adult with the body of a little boy (very small frame, narrow clavicles, small ribcage, tiny wrists). Most white guys, if they talk to me, they make fun of me for how small I am. The women ignore me entirely.

>>16520950
iktfb.
Fortunately, I'm gay, and the gay scene tends to like that.

>>16520964
Do you drive a Miata?

>>16520967
nope. Can't stand convertibles. I don't feel safe in them.

>>16520982
You'll feel safe in me bb

>>16520990
other way around. I bottom. contemplating maybe getting a Beetle. Worried about being a stereotype though

>>16520449
>column shifts suck
you fucking take that back nigger

>>16520420

Luminas were like Neons. You couldn't go a day without seeing a dozen of them. Five years later, a week would go by before you saw one.

>>16521209
Not the cars fault that it attracted scum bags who could only afford them and not maintain them

>>16521227
THIS! This was the ultimate fate of 90% of any popular car model.

>>16521227

Sure, they could be a hidden sleeper gem that sold millions of units and then disappeared faster than a Millenial's dignity.

Or they were the utterly nondescript parts bin car that they appear to be.

were the Lumi's true IRS like a corvette or did the rear spring just make them a funky swing axle car?

>>16521250
Both the Lumina and the Neon were around for many years, most of them probably got junked because the owners didn't perform any maintenance, or in the case of Neons, shitheads bought good condition ones and riced them to shit and didn't maintain them

Being parts bins cars has nothing to do with it

>>16521255
Torsion beam

>>16520420
Yes, if it's mint but if its mint it'll be too expensive and you could get something newer and better.

>>16521289
That's not true
Mint with low miles would still only be $3300 max

>>16521279
no.

>>16521255
Yes.

See:
>>16520459
The picture is from the Lumina's sister car, but point is still there. It's an IRS. 1988-1996 first gen W-bodies used that transverse fiberglass leafspring stolen from the Corvette.
Gen 1.5 cars (95-99 Monte Carlo and 95-01 Lumina) switched to coil springs, but retained the IRS. All gen 2 and 3 W-body cars use a similar IRS to the gen 1.5 cars.

>>16521300
Which would get you a clean civic that's 10 years newer and obd2 and more fuel efficient and more reliable.

>>16520420
that car is an ugly piece of shit.

>>16521317
>2003 Civic
>OBD2
Who cares, he's not trying to tune the fucking thing
>More fuel efficient
Slightly, those fuckers with the 3100 got great mileage
>more reliable
Not if he maintains it like he should

i own one, i fucking love it

she's a shitbox without a doubt, but shes never failed to start and i've driven her around and around and around with just basic maintenance. suprisingly quick if you can mess around with it a bit, and comfy beyond comfy.

cost me 200 shekles, best deal of my life

>>16521289
The one I was looking at is low mileage. Only about 100-110k km. However, I got the VIN checked out and it seems like maintenance and certification/emissions records end after 2012, which leads me to suspect the car has not been used since. This could be good or bad guys.

>>16521387
meh, just have an oil change, a coolant flush and the transmission fluid and transmission fluid filter change aftergetting it and it should be good to go. Those 3.1's are pretty bulletproof V6's

>>16521250
>Sure, they could be a hidden sleeper gem that sold millions of units
They are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUddD-e0y-M

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>>16520449
>column shifts suck