Miata General /mg/

>>16517376
Im going to look at a 1993 Eunos NA at the weekend.

What should I be looking out for guys?
Do the NA's rust as bad as the NB 2.5's?

All i know about the car so far:
>80,000 miles
>Not a great service record that I know of
>Timing belt "making a noise" the owner says
>Hasn't been driven much in the last few years
>Resprayed
>New Battery.

What should I be looking for when im looking at and test driving it?

>>16517424
has a hardtop also

>>16517424
Also they are asking €1900 (around $2,020) for this car.

Good price?

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My restored ( and lightly modded ) '95.

Dat Torsen. Here, have a video of me last summer driving it and doing donuts high as fuck on morphine:

https://youtu.be/Wj9Cm33ba1E?t=6m9s

I have a 1990 NA thats all stock and just paid to have a new motor put in after the old 1.6 crankshaft died. I keep looking at NBs and wanting one but i'm in too deep with my NA.
>>16517376
Just looks so good...

>>16517424
NAs rust just as much if not worse than NBs. You should be looking for rust around the wheel wells and on the frame rails. Also check for bent frame rails from improper jacking. My NA has a portion of the frame rail crushed a little bit because someone probably tried to support the car weight on it.

any of you faggots have the Miata Amino app?

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>>16517571
Don't forget "mildly famous"

Bruhs what color to paint NB? I'm having a real fuckin' hard time deciding.

>>16517792
Is there a difference between surface rust and very bad rust? I mean, is there an acceptable level of rust that can be seen on an NA, or is any rust a run away sign?

>>16517946
Brg

>>16518063
In my experience if you can see rust coming up around the wheels or the rocker panels, there is a lot of rust hiding behind it or in other areas. I once had an older car (1991 Dodge Dynasty) that had quite a bit of rust. Upon further inspection and poking at the whole, most of the rear fender was rust underneath but the paint was keeping it together. I took out a foot long section of body panel with one smack that looked like a 1 inch hole.

>>16518071

Black interior + brg would look weird m9

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>>16518086
So if I can already see it on the surface without getting underneath, its probably fairly rotten within?

for example, pic related, would that be acceptable or run away?

>>16518111
If that is what you are looking at that doesn't seem bad. I was imagining an actual hole. I would imagine you could cut that out and mend it up somehow before it gets worse.

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>>16518190
Some of that and the underneath was similar to pic related, except the exhaust on the one I saw was gone brownish.

>>16518190
>I would imagine you could cut that out and mend it up somehow before it gets worse.

If im not comfortable doing that DIY, is it a very expensive fix?
Anything that can be done without cutting bits off and welding?

>>16517571
you're a madman

>>16518226
I personally wouldn't buy a car with that much rust. I live in PA and have seen and owned some nasty rusted cars but I refuse to own one now. If it is all just surface rust there might not be a problem but it just freaks me out.
>>16518237
You wouldn't have to weld in a new piece, hell you could use bondo or fiberglass patch and spraypaint it. Paying a shop to weld in a new rocker piece like that would be a few hundred at the least.

Well then, do sunburst yellow if you like loud colors or a deep metallic grey if you don't

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Is your body fucking ready lads

>>16517792
here's a funfact, nb rust more than na
as for the body it's the same but nb also tend to have problems with rusting longerons which is a serious fucking issue btw

i have no idea how mazda could fuck this up even more but they did

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:(

>>16518418
I'll give you 500 for the car.
>>16518410
My only experience is with NAs, I would have thought NBs are a little bit better on the whole rust thing.

>>16518423
>My only experience is with NAs, I would have thought NBs are a little bit better on the whole rust thing.

yeah, you'd think they'd get better with time but that's mazda for you
still, that's nothing compared to first gen mazda 6, these fuckers started rusting right after leaving the factory
at least from nc forward they pulled their shit together and it's much better now

>>16517376
>tfw 6ft4 and fit in an na miats just fine
>but with the sunvisor right at my forehead level

>>16518480
They make slim visors and blanking plates for faggots like you.

>>16518577
They only make a drivers side slim visor. I want both.

>>16517376
>if you're under 6'2" and aren't overweight you can fit without modification
>Tfw 6'3"
>TFW overweight
Handling the overweight part (took weight from 288 to 226 and going lower) but can't really do anything about being an anti-manlet
Feels strangely bad, man

Would an Na be a good car to start to learn how to work on cars? Also I would likely trade/sell my motorcycle to buy one and it would probably have to be my daily. (I live in PNW btw)

Basically I want to learn maintenance and modifications and someday I'd like to turbo it. How doable is dailying an NA and about how much should I expect to spend?

>>16518904
yes.

>>16517424
can anyone give more advice on this?

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**Miata Inception**

A brg dropped drop-top inside my brg dropped drop-top

>>16518462
my nc has a bit of rust :o

>>16518904
Probably better than most FWD cars as there seems to be a fair bit of space in the engine bay. Dailying should be ok as long as you dont ever need to carry more than 1 passanger at a time. Parts and shit should be pretty cheap cause these are so common and they rust loads, so lots of decent parts for fairly cheap. Cost depends on where you live, in the US I guess about $2k, in the UK about £600 - £1000, just make sure it isn't rotten and the engine doesn't knock, most other stuff should be fixable. Oh, and get a hardtop if you can, stops people slashing your roof/climbing in and stealing it.

>>16518950
>"timing belt" makes a noise
>not been driven for years

Sounds like the engine blew up and they garaged it. Then again, replacement engines are pretty cheap, so if it does go just drop a new one in. Just don't overpay and listen for knocking. and if ANY of the rust is more than surface (poke it with a screwdriver) walk away. MX5s are pretty common, another one will come up

>>16519281
>Sounds like the engine blew up and they garaged it

If thats the case, when I go to test drive it, it wont start or run right?

>and if ANY of the rust is more than surface (poke it with a screwdriver) walk away

what does poking with a screwdriver do?, sorry to sound stupid

Thanks for the advice anon!

>>16519464
It might still run, but only for short periods of time before it starts to overheat or whatever. if you do test drive it make sure to take your time (try to get caught in slow moving traffic, that will cause then engine to do work to keep you moving, but wont give the radiator the airflow it needs to keep the engine cooled. normal cars handle this fine, shitters dont). it may also have been lack of oil, which can cause quite a lot of engine wear, but wont show when the oil is topped off again.

Poking the rust with a screwdriver shows which type of rust it is. there are 2 types, surface and penetrating (idk if thats the right term, but il stick with it for now). surface rust is just rust on that side of the sheet of metal, where the paint/rust protection has worn away and the metal has started to corrode. it will have eaten away at a little bit of the metal but it will still be ok if the rust has been removed and the area protected, as long as the rust hasnt gone too far through. Penetrating rust is rust that has gone all the way through the metal, so there is no metal left in that spot. the rust will still hold its place/shape, but will be significantly weaker than the metal around it, and will spread outwards. this cannot be treated i the same way as surface rust, as there is no more metal to protect. Poking the rust with a screwdriver will test to see how bad the rust is, penetrating rust will crumble, and surface rust that is bad enough that the metal beneath it is weakened will cause the remaining metal to be punctured by the screwdriver. Just remember that rust can come from both sides of the metal, and what may look like surface rust from one side may be rust from the other side that has eaten its way through, which is why you use he screwdriver test on ALL rust that you can see. best case scenario, its all solid, and can be sanded back and rust protected when you buy it. worst case, you put a hole in their car cause its so badly rusted, (1/2)

>>16519666
>just checking my own trips before part 2
(2/2) and walk (or run, depending on how pissed they are/how big the hole is) away and start your search again. btw, all that shit about the engine in part one is worst case, chances are that the belt is hitting a twig thats stuck in there/something in the same area but unrelated, and the lack of driving is just down to circumstance. just remember that this is one of the most common convertables out there, if something looks fucky dont be afraid to just walk away and find another, its a fuck load cheaper to wait a month or so rather than buy a shitter that spends a year on your drive while you fix it. oh and ffs dont be scared off by what i just wrote, as i said before, chances are its nothing serious

>>16519666
>>16519707
Thanks so much for the info anon, really good stuff. Good tip on the rust too, i will bring the screwdriver.

A few other points
Im worried about what shape the engine is in since its been sitting up a while with no driving, and the condition of the fluids.

If I start it up and drive it with shitty old oils and petrol in it, do I risk ruining it for myself if I buy it after?

And also with the rust and corrosion, do any major suspension parts suffer from this? That would make it a serious danger to drive in the long run? Im talking wheels coming off, car falling to bits while at high speed shit here.

>>16519920
if the engines been sitting, chances are it will be ok. if the petrols that bad the car will probbaly refuse to start, or will run kind of shitty. the oil is the major concern, as if its broken down it could fuck up the engine. honestly, it shouldnt be an issue, ive had a car running after sitting for 7 years or so with no oil change. in hindsight that was a shit idea, but the point is it wont outright kill the car. best bet is just to contact the guy and ask if its been changed recently. chances are if its been driven lightly it should have had it changed at some point if they gave 2 fucks about the car.

IIRC they do sometimes rust on the subframes, but i dont think its as common as body rust. Make sure you check for it though, do an image search for mx5 front and rear subframes, and take a torch to make sure they dont have rust. if the do, and its anything more than light surface, then just walk away, its no worth the effort. (if you cant get underneath use a smartphone camera with the flash locked on to get a good view of the underside). i dont think mx5s are particularly bad for this, but also check the suspension turrets (in the trunk and under the hood). rust on these isnt really that common but its really bad if it is there. also if you can just check any suspension components underneath for any play.

as far as the engine goes, other than oil issues, listen out for tapping/knocking from the engine, and make sure the gearbox works fine in all gears

Just give this a read through too, seems to be a fairly complete list of things to look out for : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=803271

Oh and dont poke too hard with that screwdriver, if you mark the paint they will be pissed. Also if you do find rust, keep quiet about it incase they bitch you out for damaging the car

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I know some of you expressed interest in Jet Stream headlights.

There is a group buy going on, might still be active. Only 3 people needed for the group buy price ($810 shipped)

http://mazdaroadster.net/showthread.php?14595-Jet-Stream-Fixed-Headlight-Group-Buy&p=203982

>>16519071
Madman

>>16520602
I was one of those that expressed interest since i dont have headlights at all, but they did a group buy before with more than 10 people and it was $600. so do they plan on lowering the price as more people are added to the list or is $800 the fixed price?

unfortunately i dont have the cash at the moment.

>>16517376
do you guys get compliments on your cars by passerby? I get a lot of "nice car" but mostly from middle aged guys.

205/50/15 or 195/50/15?

>>16521622
Yes, but mostly from kids yelling. I love that though. It's fun to make a kid's day, even if it isn't that cool a car.

>>16521639
Not much difference outside of racing, really. For street use it mostly depends on the wheel width and whether you want a beefier look.

>>16521584
I am not sure, if I were you I'd email them to find out.

Can you fit a full size drum kit in a miata easy?

>>16522609
>can you
yes
>easy
no

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Reposting this here from QTDDTOT:

I've got bad news, /o/, and was wondering if you could help.

Recently I found out my NB Miata's front frame rails have been rusting out, while everything else is pristine.
That means basically removing the entire front end and either saw off the rails and welding new ones on, or sanding them down, patching them, and coating them in a rust inhibitor if it's not too bad.

All included it's going to run me about 3 grand or so. I've resigned to the fact that I have to have this done, I just don't know where.

Dealership shops won't touch anything with rust in my area, and I've never had to deal with body shops or anything of the sort. Where do I go to get an estimate or find someone competent enough at welding/structure work to be able to do this?

Is 190.000 miles too much?

>>16522704
For a daily driver, I'd say so, but it depends on the owner and whether or not they actually took care of the car

>>16521639
205 for 7.5" or 8" wide wheel
195 for 7" or less wide wheel

>>16517926
nah, but i've seen it being shilled on all the big youtube channels. those fuckers almost convinced me to download it too but i just drank some bourbon and forgot about it instead

>>16522609
why?

>>16520602
the fuck is the appeal of htose headlights? you ruin the only redeemable feature of the NA for that dog shit?

>>16522784
Honestly jetsream lights are the only aftermarket design I like since it integrates well with the car's lines. I fucking hate sleepy eyes so much holy shit, especially when assholes throw small lightbars in there instead of headlights.

>>16521639
literally doesn't matter. even 185 is overkill for the twinky 100hp car that is the MX-5. 205s look bad ass so id just go with that i guess

>>16522686
>3k
>NB

bruh everyone's frame rails are rusted out. they aren't even an integral part of the chassis (look it up). how bad can it possibly be?

>>16522790
One is pretty bad and looks to definitely need replacing, the other can probably be patched.

3k because of the labor costs obviously. I can get both rails for about 800 from Mazda.

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>>16522790
>>16522801

My 94 didn't want to start this morning. It cranked and it felt like the engine fired in a few cylinders and then it immediately died. Did that a few times then I went out and unplugged and replugged the CAS and MAF. Didn't help but then I played with the throttle and got it to start? Any ideas? Only thing really that changed was it was a bit more foggy today and my starter has been staying on a bit long after the engine starts and grinds a little sometimes. I don't think the starter would cause it not to start since it turned the motor plenty to fire a few times.

Any ideas?

>>16520211

Thanks again anon, you have been really helpful.

When should any major services been done on these cars?
Timing belts, water pump etc.
The car has over 75000 miles on it, but its never had any of these changed.

As far as services go, the current seller is clueless on the phone, because she is selling it after her dad gave it to her. So hopefully there is a service record and other records kept that can tell me more.

Will my NA's check engine light come on when I already have a stored code that doesn't show the light when running?

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Anon in Twingo plushie thread says Miata is next, get excited
>>16522828

Reminder that 2008 NC is the most smiley miat

>>16523501
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

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>>16518418
>not having 2 spare tires on the back for maximum over drift

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>>16517376
non-miata guy here

i came here to make fun of you guys but now i must say that the OP pic is by far the best looking miata that ive ever seen, and that i may consider driving it if someone maybe had a gun to my head or something.

that is all.

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>>16523546
but you dont think this is better looking
>>16523501

mans never been in MG when its SHUTDOWN

TRUSS MI DADDI

>>16523040
anyone help with this?

>>16521622
i've had "nice car" from a middle aged woman

also had a guy come up to me and ask "is it very fast?" i replied "it's quite fast" lol

>>16523877
LEL

>>16521622
I've had a few people tell me they like it while I was stopped at lights with the top down.

Pretty sure one was an /o/tist. He said he liked my car, asked if it was a manual, then told me about the NA he had at home.

>>16517424
NA's rust more than NB's. If you see it on the outside of the rocker, it means the inside is rusted through as they rust from inside out. Most common spot for NA's to rust is at the rocker, because the drain holes get blocked and water sits in there, eventually forming rust.

>>16522789
the amazon tier led bars are literally the worst

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>>16522784
"ruin" lol

also its weighs less than pop up's

>>16524519
>>16522784
>>16520602
The only thing I don't like about them is that you're cutting the top portions of the bumper out. Not being fully reversible puts me off of them.
>inb4 hurr durr u can buy another bumper xDDDDDD

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>>16524531
you can buy another bumper.

but if you dont want to cut into your bumper you can get these ugly ass lights.

>>16523827
Get out.

>>16524536
these look way better

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>>16524545
i disagree.

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>>16524545
lol NAH, you have shit taste my friend Im sorry.

>>16524536
>>16524545
>>16524582
These look even worse in person. Someone in my local club had them before.

>>16524582
>>16524555
>>16524562
>>16524550
>>16524536
>>16524519

kys. that is the dumbest thing i have ever seen in my entire life

>>16524611
t. cuck

>eunos badge
fuck you mazda

>>16524582
Die you dumb bitch. Kys you're are self

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>>16524941
good troll.

>>16524947
>"I'm the only one stupid enough to think this looks good, everyone must be trolling!1"
Die scum

>>16524958
die cis scum

>>16524921
What wheels are those?

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>>16525434
>>16524921
not him but I wanna know too

>>16523498
>That panelgap
A E S T H E T I C ruined by shitty fitting panel

What's the highest mileage you'd go used? Thinking of picking an NB up and there are quite a few around here that are very clean and in the ~130-170k range.

>>16525434
>>16525442
TE37s or TE37v's

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>>16526155
>TE37
Thanks bruv
Man, these are nice

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I'm joining these two cars into one, Miata front and rear subframes and engine and transmission under a Datsun body, rip Miata you served me well.
miatsun time

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>>16526201

off all the cars you could do this to, why an old ass wagon?

>>16522806
Spark plug wires my brother.
>>16522804
Just slap on a butterfly brace

>>16525442
those are rotas grids in your pic. Te37 replicas. garbage.

>>16526210
?
Datsun 510 is a dope car

>>16526273
Lol stay mad faggot

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>>16526278

why not pick a classic 3box one to mod instead?

>>16526306
Because wagons are badass, it's a 72

Going to look at a (supposedly) SUPER clean 2001 NB, 6 speed with LSD and a factory hardtop. What should I look out for to make sure it's not a total pile of shit?

>>16526445
rust

>>16526667
Any specific areas? Or just the usual rocker panels?

>>16526285
Youre the one cursing so you are the mad one my friend :)

>>16527852
Why would I be mad?
I own legit wheels not reps

>>16527927
So what's the problem?

>>16527956
People who freak out about reps are retarded

>>16524443
>No padding on roll bar
Hope he cracks his skull when getting rear ended.

>>16526306
Why not pick a classic wagon to mod instead?

>>16528243
Yeah, I'm sure 2mm of foam padding will prevent a concussion retard.

>>16528243
Even cushions glued on it wont help in this case

>>16528014
nobody is freaking out.

but replicas are garbage.

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Do bilstein shocks offered in 2.0l ND make a big difference versus regular shocks?

Here are really fucked up trim levels. If you want to get a bigger engine you have to choose second best trim level and you get LSD and Bilstein suspension. Also you get some fancy iLoop system or whatever. And then the highest trim gets you recaros + dumb safety shit like lane departure. Is there any way you can get club edition in europe or something similar?

pic unrelated

>>16528900
They're not, they are fine.

Do you liek yellow miat?

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>>16530032

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Well I'll finally be a Miata owner later this week.

>>16529986
youre garbage.

hey fags, quick question, when I hit the rev limiter, my car jerks. is that normal?

>>16529979
Talk to the dealer and see what they can do.

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>>16530032
Is that the Track Dog Racing splitter? I really want a lip for mine

Just put down a order on some reroute parts, feels good.

>>16531593
yeah, you hit the fuel cutoff, so it will stop pulling suddenly

>>16531715
so I can't just have it pinned in 2nd bouncing off the rev limited and have the ride be smooth? it's always going to jerk like that?

So I want to go ahead and sell my miata in a couple months, but my issues with oxidation on its poor red paint will mean I'll have to end up selling the car slightly cheaper.

Would I be better off just replacing the front bumper and the rear finish panel instead of just painting the car? I Wouldn't mind buying these in good condition if it means I can sell it in the summer.

>>16531733
Have you tried buffing the surfaces?

>>16531853
Yes I have in the past, and all it did was remove paint from some areas where I did a buff/clay bar treatment. it did remove the oxidation, but it ended up coming back in 2 days, and all the pads soaking of the paint just scared the shit out of me. Now I have my mirrors with white spots from where they did the work on it and the rear finish panel is nearly pink

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Asked this in last thread and got no response. How can I use these plugs or make an adapter to connect to my hardtop on an NB? The defroster wires on my soft top glass were soldered on so I couldn't use those

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>>16524418
this is literally the perfect roadster

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test post please ignore

t

So how do you guys respond to the "gay" meme? Legit curious.

>Have to drive by a fucking NB with RPF1's every morning
>In my works 2002 flatbed hilux
>While my NA sits in the driveway waiting for next payday to pull the engine, get crank worked and new internals.

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>>16531674

MIATA COLOR POWER RANKING: Splash Green = Blazing Yellow > Mariner Blue = BRG > Every other miata colour

>>16531674

Is that your car breh? Mirin those wheels.

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>>16534197
Just ignore, then smoke them around every corner.

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>>16531724
I really hope you're not serious. Why would you want to do that? You should learn to hold the revs where you want them regardless.

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>>16534197
Once someone yelled out "Your car is gay!" and I responded "I know!". Who gives a shit lol

>>16534197
Get a hard top, soft top miatas are gay as fuck, hard top makes them much better tho

>>16534754
if someone's going to call your car gay they'll call it gay irrespective of top

>>16534754
That will show them!

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>>16534378
No, but I have one in the same color.
>>16534342
I'm pretty sure it's crystal Blue Metallic and not Splash Green

>>16534787
?
soft top miata is a fucking bitch car, the hard top transforms it, removes 90% of the homosexuality, that's why they cost 1000 dollars and everybody wants one

>>16534676
I am serious. I do it on my motorcycle all the time and it sounds cool.

I doubt anyone here cares but posting anyway.

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=237361679
38k€

Same car on global auto for 5 380 000yen or 44k€ and +40000km more.
http://www.global-auto.ne.jp/stock/public_stock_detail.php?entry=0367.dat&model=BNR34

I wonder whats the deal with it? CVR group seems to be legit and apparently global auto is moving to another location so it might be they want to get rid of their stock fast but seems like a scam to me as CVR wants pay upfront.

>>16534968
the fuck are you posting this here for

>>16535014
Because there is no nissan general and rest of the threads are nothing but shit-posting.
After reading this I realized this is nothing but autistic noise,"my car jerks when I hit the rev limiter" LMAO special thread you got going on.

>>16535048
hey fuck you buddy it was a real question. my motorcycles dont jerk when i hit the rev limiter so i had no way of knowing

>>16534839

>I'm pretty sure it's crystal Blue Metallic and not Splash Green

oh fug you're right. It's a great color for miatas regardless.

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>>16534856

>furfag wants to pay money for a hard topping

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>>16535048
Hey buddy my wife's a sea mammal, and jokes on you there's nothing but shitposting here too.

>>16534687
This guy gets it.

>>16535257
Too poor to afford one eh?

>>16535257
If you don't care about the convertible part then the hardtop is a great upgrade. Car gets a lot stiffer and rides much better.

got the whip up to 100mph today. i didn't get any shaking or anything. felt rock solid and had some more left in the tank too

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>>16535247
Yes, quite rare as well.

Hey is it true that the 115hp NA engine is not harmed if the timing belt suddenly breaks while driving?
To what is it due ? the DOHC design ?

>>16536250
>not getting a fastback top

stop being such a flaming faggot damnit

>>16537638
It's a non-interference engine. Valves don't hit the cylinder.

>>16532761
If you have a pigtail that came with those to connect to them then you can just cut the connection off your hardtop and solder the pigtail to those wires. If not then just cut both plugs and use insulated blade connectors on both ends.

>>16537765
My hardtop didn't come with any wires... Is my only option to cut these off and rewire for hardtop only or could I strip them down a little ways and add wiring for the hardtop to it?

Why is buying a Miata so painful? All the dealers in Illinois sell them in under 48 hours and Craigslist is dead.

>>16538044
have you tried talking to the dealer? they should be able to tell you what units they have incoming, complete with option list. also they should also have a test drive car. or are you talking about used?

>>16538061
Used, looking for NA

>>16537856
Does your hardtop even have the defroster?

>>16538365
I'd say check a range of 300 miles in any direction. you'll end up finding it in the middle of nowhere, but you will find it.

>>16532761
I literally did this exact job for my motorcycle the other day. I even posted about it on /DIY/ and they all made fun of me. Just yank off the white housings, use a splicing tool or a knife to pull back the insulation, and then splice the wires with whatever they are supposed to be plugged into.

I am guessing that whatever it plugs into is also housed in some kind of easy plug-n-play apparatus so you'll have to yank those off as well and splice the two together. Look up linemen splicing. You literally knot the wires together, it's easy as piss. Some autists are going to tell you that you absolutely MUST solder them or it wont last but fuck em. I just spliced mine really tightly and got a rock solid wrap with some electrical tape. Works great.

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>>16538952
Yeah, these are what it has for connectors. There's 2 of them

>>16539235
Yeah, I'm 90% sure there should be a wire there, as well as a fuse and cover for everything. Look up pics of what the circuit should look like, that'll tell you what you need to do. If you're not careful you could blow your defroster.

>>16539260
I read on the MX-5 forums that my plastic plugs should just work with these metal spade bits on the top and that I'm not missing anything but looking at the plastic plugs there's no way they could fit... Is it possible I have the wrong pigtail or am I just autistic?

>>16539380
It could be, the pigtail coming from my car, which is a 96' is different than the one you posted. If your softtop had defrost though you should have the fuse and everything else already attached though. Follow the wires, make sure you have the fuse, and if you do just go ahead an cut and splice I guess.

>>16539467
Yeah after reading more it looks like my hardtop is an NA top, I'll look for guides for finding and using a NA pigtail before going with the the splice idea. Thanks for the advice

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finally part of mg

>>16539689
nice
you that mexico anon from a week ago?

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>>16539697
Yes my man, fun as fuck. I love it!

>>16539689
>bimbo

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Realistically, provided all the tools, how hard is it for the average joe to do an NA engine swap using only youtube videos, forum guides, and bubba help?

I recently came into an engine for my NA. rod bearings were shot to shit on the old one, and changing them is only a bandaid. My only auto repair experience is basic motorcycle shit: oil changes, brakes, fork seals, regular maintenance type stuff. The most work i've done on a car is installing a new starter and radiator.

>>16540005
It's easy as shit, couple hour job on your own

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I have 2 questions

What's the most hp i can get out of the 1st gen miata's 1.8l naturally aspirated?

What's the most hp I can get out of the 1st gen 1.8l while still being streetable/Daily Driveable?

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>>16540109
It's not that easy, you have to remove the engine and trans together which is a lot of work, trying to line up the PPF and drive shaft and exhaust at the same time while lowering the engine in and trying to get the motor mounts into the holes on top of that is a bit of a balancing act

>>16540328
I've read the stock internals can handle around 250. Stock clutch about 220. Just estimates. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

>>16540109
Yeah it's pretty easy. If it's your first time, might take more than a couple hours though. I suggest getting a Haynes manual or doing some research first.

Took me several days working a couple hours a day. Better done with 2 people, ESPECIALLY removing and putting the engine back in.

Thought I was doing my Miata a service by rerouting the speedometer cable because the previous owner did it wrong and it was melting on the egr tube. Friggen thing stopped working on my drive this morning. Off to the junk yard I got looking for one.

>>16540328
Not that much desu, just go turbo or supercharge.
NB engines are better for all motor builds but if you are keeping that first gen 1.8 motor swap the head for a 99 head and go from there.

Has this poor thing been butchered or should I pick it up?

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/5950740567.html

>>16541670
Doesn't look to be butchered but god damn $5k is overpriced. If it had a hardtop maybe but yeah that should be like $3-3.5K max.

>>16537647
>getting a fastback top

stop being such a flaming faggot damnit

>>16540328
Depends on how much work and money you want to put in it. Over 200whp N/A is possible, but at that point it's both cheaper and easier to just k-swap it.
Quinn has over 170whp on a stock bottom end.

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>>16537373
And another one. I truly love that color too.

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>>16541885
Me too

>>16518344
>implying anyone here has anything other than all seasons or yokohama meme.drives

>>16519071
only niggers say drop top


>>16536381
>Car gets a lot stiffer and rides much better.

can this meme die?

a hardtop on a miata of ANY gen WILL NOT increase stiffness if you use oem brackets/ frankenbolts/ hooks

the garastar hardtop brackets might

>>16541913

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>>16541913

>>16541994
Tfw dealership near me has one in nearly perfect condition with ~70k miles and matching top

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>>16541815
I'm assuming you are talking about Garage Quinn Motors?

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>>16542012
Buy it and become my brother

>>16541994
It's not a meme. I could feel a big improvement with the stock latches and a even bigger one with the Jass Performance brackets
>>16542074
Yes

>>16542078
literally the only thing the hardtop might do is to slightly dampen lateral movements across the car (cowl/ windscreen flex)

the latches ARE NOT design to transmit or divide any kind of load across the latching surface, just hold the top on

the softtop, RHT, and PRHT are unstressed components of the vehicle

you might be feeling less cowl flex
you'd feel more results from door bushings

STOP THE MEMES

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>>16542105

i am so bad at replying

>>16542083
was to the retard that thinks an unstressed members could add rigidity

>>16542111
>>16542105
ok i did some googling and apparently IM SO WRONG

>Transverse deflection of a complete car left/right with the hardtop is reduced 0.031004 percent when the hardtop is in place vis-a-vis the car with the top lowered.

>0.031004 PERCENT

i wil take it

>>16542130
and additionally
> torsional deformation along the centerline of a complete car is reduced 0.029666 percent when the hardtop is in place vis-a-vis the car with the top lowered

LMAO
M
A
O

>>16542135
>>16542130
>>16542083

>the original NA presskit points out that "the optional removable hardtop does not significantly contribute to the structural rigidity of the Miata"

Mazda themselves said it in 1989

Lads I wanna get a Miata my budget is around 2-3K and I live in the Seattle area. Anyone see anything on Craigslist that isn't dogshit? Thnx for spoonfeeding.

>>16542158
nah

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>australia

I'm just gonna leave this here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1kuo6xkbE

>>16542249
nah cunt, should have taken it with ya

do you honestly think any of the autists here havent seen this?


"im just gonna leave this here" is reddit identifier

>>16541670
>>16541696
Key phrases here:
>put a lot of time and money...that I know I'll never get back
>5k obo
That nigga can probably be talked down to 3800 ez

>>16542083
pffft nigga BTFO

>>16542256
Well someone's triggered!
It amused me after not having seen it for a few years, so I figured it share the love. This is /mg/ after all, a place for all things Miata.

I don't use Reddit so I'm unfamiliar with "identifiers," but I guess it takes one to know one huh?

>>16542307
you articulate yourself like the average redditor

>>16542078
>>16542012
>>16541913
>>16541885

Best Miata color, hands down.

>tfw silver NB with paint damage

M8's will I be able to get similar color with a vinyl wrap?

>>16542105
"literally the only thing the hardtop might do is to slightly dampen lateral movements across the car (cowl/ windscreen flex)"
The cowlshake disappears with the top. You would not have used a phrase like "might do is slightly" if you actually tried with the top, the difference is day and night, specially with solid mounts.
>>16542111
>>16542143
>>16542291
Even if the actual stiffness of the car is the same with or without the hardtop, the perceived boost in stiffness can't go unnoticed. The car feels so much more solid going over bumps with the top than without that I can't believe that any of you have ever tried it, and adding solid mounts on top of that makes the car feel like it was built with a roof.

>>16542158
I checked the Seattle craigslist and holy fuck what is going on with Miata prices. You're looking at a guaranteed $3.5k just to get a NA that isn't completely beat to shit and that is on top of having high miles

>>16542158
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5964008541.html

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5961121013.html

https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5923933809.html

https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5938701312.html

https://bellingham.craigslist.org/cto/5952459441.html

>>16541994
How about
>drophead coupé

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>>16517376
6'7 guy here, what mods should i look into to fit in a nc miat when i get one

>>16542704
Open roof

190cm, 110kg. Will i fit comfortably enough?

>>16526201
You fucking madman. Sounds fun though

>>16542446
see

>>16542130
>>16542135
>>16542143
moron

>>16542988
You are the moron shitposting based on things stated on the internet instead of personal experiences. A number on the internet won't change my opinion, because I've tried IRL and I know how it feels.

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>>16542836
Seriously though

Has anyone here ever driven a V8 Miata? I really want to build a 5.0 to ~300bhp and put it in a beater miat, but it's a lot of money to waste if the thing just feels like a complete deathtrap shitbox all the time.

>>16543515
how much it feels like a deathtrap shitbox is probably related to how much you spend on things like suspension and brakes

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>>16543515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv5RgioWZ9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLONL8ax9CI

>>16543518
That's a good point. I want it to look and sound like an evil hate-machine that wants to kill me and my passenger, but I'd rather it not feel like it.

>>16543528
Nope. Not buying into the 1UZ meme on this one. I can get a 5.0 for just as cheap, build it for FAR cheaper, and install it with a pre-made kit that requires no fabrication.

I'd understand if this was a 240sx, which can be swapped for ~$1200 using the stock trans, driveshaft, etc.

>>16543515
I've heard that the Ford 5.0 is a impossible to fit in the engine bay, it's too wide. I'd go for an LS, meme status notwithstanding

>>16543693
he means the old 302, not the new coyote 5.0

>>16543693
Not true. Google Monster Miata.

finally buying wheels for my meme machine. Do you guys know if I can fit 4 wheels into a miata with hardtop? I don't know which car to take.

Also, where would be the best place to find an 01-05 set of tubular headers so my car can stop throwing the P0421 code. I live in a free state so I can do whatever the fuck I want in regards to emissions

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So, /mg/ an older guy I recently did some light mechanic work for is selling his Miata.
1990 NA, 1.6l with the 5 speed.
It's clean, says it doesnt burn or leak oil, clutch is starting to slip and a/c doesnt work.

He's asking $1800 if he gets the clutch and a/c fixed. What's a good offer as is? I'm thinking $1000-$1200.

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>>16544040
I havent given a test drive yet.
Also 190k miles. Suppose that's an important figure.

>>16517376
holy shit. that is fucking beautiful

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went out and took some pix

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>>16544446

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>>16544467

>>16544040
>>16544069
yeah I'd check for rust and if it's got none I'd offer $1500 and work from there.

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>>16544446
>>16544467
>>16544477
nice pics and clean NA lad

>>16543528
lol fucking trash delete this

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>>16543728
15x7s wont fit most likely. the factory daisys will though. you need to get one in the trunk and then you can just barely cram 3 in the cabin. remove your spare tire. 15x7 doesnt even fit in the trunk with 205s on

>>16544040
190k is p high miles even if engine swaps are cheap. how good is the condition? looks good by the pics. $1500ish sounds bout right

>>16544497
dont talk to me or my wife's son ever again

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>>16544496
thx famalam

here's one with my stanceboi friedn

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>>16545377

>>16544504
I just wanted you to know that I got them all home, # in the cabin and one in my trunk. They're 15x7.5s with 195/45R15s on them. I'm very happy that I could make it work

>>16543728
>>16544504
I managed to get all 4 15x7 on 195s, one in the trunk and 3 in the cabin. Removed the passenger seat though.

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>>16525970
prease respond

>>16525970
130 is the highest I'd go

>>16529979
God the RX7 is fucking beautiful
STOP DOING THIS TO ME JUST LET ME BE HAPPY WITH MY SHITBOX

>mfw probably selling my NB to pick up an R33 instead

why is the miata spoiler so ugly? i almost bought a miat but it makes it look so un-miata

any agree with me on this? or am i retarded

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>>16546835
>the miata spoiler
gonna have to be more specific m8
theres are a dozen different ones for every gen

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>>16547375

I think the ND is growing on me. Yeah it doesn't look as happy as the older models but otherwise it's pretty sexual.

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>>16547436

ND is the edgelord of the family but it's still a miata at heart.

>>16546807
Why?

>>16542704

>foamectomy
>remove visors
>flat door panels
>310/320mm d-shaped steering wheel

That's about it senpai, but you'll probably still struggle to fit in it.

t. 6'3"

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>tfw no nopro hardtop

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>>16547690

I'm thinking about stepping up to a 1991 NA MX-5.

I'm 6'3'', not overweight, most of my height is in the legs.

Would it really be much of a problem?

where the fuck do you buy hardtops that come with a window???

>>16547893

If it's anything like the NB you'll fit with some basic modifications.

See
>>16547647

>>16547994

Craigslist, maybe? Mine came with the car.

>>16547994
Goodwin racing
Rev9
DG motorsports

>>16539105
nice rx7

>>16517376
If I buy a mk1 miata will my dad disown me for being a low test faggit?

>>16549209
He hasn't already disowned you for being a low test faggit?

>>16542312
Oh. I just articulate myself cohesively. Nifty to know there's similarities

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>>16547690
>>16547696
his car is one of my favorite NC's, he's also got a white NA that's pretty nice
He runs a youtube channel for his racing he does in the NC too

>>16550066
>>16550066
>>16550066
>>16550066

N E W T H R E A D

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tell me everything about clicking noise from the engine bay

please