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Hey all. I am fully aware of /adv/ but due to the auto nature of this I figured I would ask her to get the best advise. Basically I recently purchased a srt hellcat charger. I worked very hard for it and saved since I was about 10 for owning a awesome car one day. Luckily for me at 25 I was able to finally do so. My younger cousin has a charger as well but the v6. He is absolutely in love with this car. He recently asked me to borrow it to take a girl out but I was not so keen to this proposition. I love my cousin but he has detonated his first cars engine due to shit maintenance , plowed into a family because running red lights, and always admits to having a heavy foot. I literally do not trust him at ALL with my vehicle. How can I say no nicely but sternly. I have already said no but he keeps asking and a few of the other side of my family is trying to sway me to "let him play a bit". I'm getting a bit frustrated and don't want to be the dick in the family and shit but fuck there is no way I'm letting ANYBODY drive my car.
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>>16509303
If he has a set day he wants to use it you could have it "break down" that week
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So reading the ending tells me you already made up your mind.

I wouldn't lend ANYBODY that has a track record of crashing cars (I have Asian family known for this) a vehicle. Its your car, you don't have to lend it to anybody, especially if he's gonna get pussy in the back seat and not clean it up or some other shit like that.

pic related, GEEDEEARRS!
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honestly dude just tell him no as many times as you need to.

it's your car, and a pretty pricey one at that, so you have final jurisdiction.

also, i've driven a manual hellcat challenger and that shit isn't for the faint of heart, retards, or irresponsible drivers. 707 horsepower is WAY TOO FUCKING MUCH to hand over to a person like your cousin.

please don't let him ruin your nice car.
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Just say no.

It's yours, so no.
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>>16509303
Just say no and that's final. Be a man. Ultimately they'll respect you more if you put your foot down now and then.
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>>16509335
Bro I agree. This shit is WILD. I'm was almost inclined to just try to return it when I first bought it because it was sheer terror at first. Its really a car for someone with a very VERY ( I literally cannot emphasize enough on this ) foot...
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>>16509341
Only if the extended family shares his apprehension, otherwise he's going to be 'a cunt'.

I'd be happy with that label, sets an automatic no for the next time someone wants to ask to use my shit.
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>>16509341
Yeah its working to be the opposite. He gets babied and literally can do whatever he wants. Hes a good kid though...just way to much leeway.
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>>16509351
>very VERY foot
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>>16509361
light

lmao good catch. That's how scary it is. It makes me forget words just thinking about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzGTOumADn8
never share your car with your family unless youre fine with it being destroyed
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>>16509354
So? If they're irresponsible trash/hood types, fuck em.

>>16509359
If they live and die by giving your cousin good boy points for wiping his own ass, fuck em too.

You don't need their approval.

t. Person with a shitty branch of the family tree, like most people.
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Update from OP.
I decided to ask him hey if she has a friend..we could do a double date and I will drive. He said sure but as long as he can pretend its his car.... I thought about it for a second but kinda snapped a bit because I worked so fucking hard for this car and at FUCKING 25 bought a car some retirees couldent afford with STRAIGHT CASH...no way I'm going to let ANYBODY pretend this is there car. FUCK THAT.
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>>16509303
Say this exactly

No, I saved up since I was 10 and I'm not going to have you wreck my car trying to impress some girl. You have a shit history with cars and I don't trust you with it.
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>>16509383
Your cousin sounds like a real faggot. Disassociate with him immediately except for required family functions.
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>>16509397
Like I said he really is a nice kid. He tries to sweet talk his way into things but this is insulting to me his ELDER cousin.
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Doesnt the hellcat have valet mode?

Give him the valet mode key and hes only got 500hp and limits the rpm.
I'd let them but they do anything to fuck it up, ill tear him a new asshole
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Don't let him borrow your car. It's a terrible idea and you know it. You have valid reasons not to trust him behind the wheel of a car.
Don't even let him tell the bitch it's his car. She's just going to ask him if she can eat, drink, vape, put on make up, etc. and he'll say yes because he wants to get his dick wet.
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>>16509405
Just tell the nigga no, say that by principal you are not going to let anyone but you drive your car. Say something about insurance if you have to.
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>>16509425
Actually I read and reread the OP

Just say no.
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>>16509425
He already managed to nearly kill a family with less than 300 hp..so valet mode or not...fuck that.
>>16509430
Agreed
>>16509433
Already done.. shitstorm incoming.
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>>16509444
see>>16509441

I've driven a manual hellcat challenger. Almost bought it too, but didn't.
Shit is wild. Def not especially if its auto.
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>>16509466
its auto. lmfao thanks for the reinforcement. I opted for the auto because I'm not the best manual driver and I definitely get into trouble if it was.
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>>16509374
>So?
We're on the same team.
Like I said, if they think I'm a cunt, they're less likely to ask for shit later.
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>>16509383
He'd be using that as an excuse to ask for the keys in front of the girls halfway through the date. Guaranteed.

Your family sounds sort of hick, not in a malicious way mind you, but definitely not responsible sounding people. Don't you dare lend that awesome car out.
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>>16509405
>He really is a nice kid
>Trashes all of his toys and things it's no biggie to drive someones brand new car

Deluded. Not him, you.
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>>16509468
If it was manual, clutch and shifter are like loading a howitzer. Not for the faint of heart
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>>16509478
>He'd be using that as an excuse to ask for the keys in front of the girls halfway through the date
That's absolutely what'd happen. Don't let him fuck your car opee
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Noone else is gonna say it?

Pics or it didn't happen.
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>>16509478
Nah they care cool. The adults are on my side but my cousin and my other cousins bf are riding my dick about it. I told everyone to fuck off until business hours..its late as fuck and I honestly don't care too much anymore.
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>>16509303
I wouldnt let him drive my e36 M3 with 240hp kek let alone 7hundredfucking7
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>>16509493
>>16509493
Don't lend him the car.

>>16509494
Man it sucks that the E36 got cucked so hard in North America. It's such a cool car
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>>16509500
Yeah I agree its pretty much done. Hes throwing a shit fit now. Like I said the adults are pretty much on my side but w.e. He will get over it.
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>>16509488
We don't say that here. We ask for bread on hood.
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>>16509539
lmfao. Don't bother. If you saw my phone you would wonder if it even have texting capacities. Its like 2005. Never was a phone guy...also it helped me save a bunch to buy a car.
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>>16509547
has*
SHIT I'm tired.
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play the angle of " you and your own car arnt good enough to pick up a girl that you have to borrow someone elses? " the way you depict him I would figure he has a huge massive ego, hence the reason he would even want to borrow a car to impress some girl anyways. just tell him that he would be fake as fuck pretending it was his car and if he wants to get any real progress with any girl he has to be honest and be himself. (i.e use his own car...)
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Okay pussy it's JUST A challenger, sheez you act like it's fast or nice or something


M-m-m-muh light foot!
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>young cousin wants to show off to a girl in a 700hp charger and pass it off as his
yeah, hes totally not going to put it into a power pole at 100mph

tell him to wake the fuck up
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>>16509589
no his cousins v6 would be "just a challenger" you have to at least give respect to a car putting out 707hp..
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>>16509500
I mean true but it didnt take away from the godteir handling.

only .3-8 seconds of laptimes and 0-60
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>>16509594
also rereading the OP I realize its a charger*
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>>16509594
>707 hp
>respect

Lol okay faggot, yea I guess I'll respect some auto cuck mobile making 707* horsepower at 6 thousand pounds that he didn't even build.

Nigga it's a fuckin dodge. It's a fucking charger. And it's a fuckin auto. It's exactly like letting your cousin borrow a chrysler 300 aka not a big deal, since its a basic bitch car
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>>16509619
This anon has never driven a car, lmao

The hellcat has enough power to roast the wheels at 100mph...
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>>16509619
okay after reading your post I realize you are right. Thank you for opening my eyes I wish I would have realized this from the beginning hats off to you
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>>16509619
Are you my cousin?
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>>16509303
gather together the family in one place about it. once everyone is there, have him stand up.
>Anon, you want to borrow my 700 horsepower brand new car.
>I've told you no but you keep begging like the entitled little shit you are.
>so let me say it in as many witnesses as possible.
>Not just no, but HELL FUCKING NO!
>You will never get the keys to that car so long as their is breath in my body.
>meeting dismissed

Get your point across and do not give 2 fucks if you come across as a dick.
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>>16509627
Literally no

It's a charger dude :rolleseyes/ I don't care what special snowflake trim it is. It's a fucking a Dodge. It's 4 foot
Doors. It's not a bid fucking deal at all especially at *allegedly* lmao 707 horsepower while weighing as much as an F250. Op is just a bitter poor fag. Maybe if he built a 700 horsepower engine but nah not even then. Literally just a faggot
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>>16509650
Meh 4/10 I replied originally
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>>16509650
"what do you drive"
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>>16509647
>then mom makes me teddies
>collect rare pepes on the chenz
>sure showehim.jpeg

This is basically how you put yourself on the spectrum for your family you fucking autist
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>>16509650
MUH BUILDS. You sound like some pissed off boomer who cant afford your meds. Op here btw. GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU GERATRIC FUCKSTICK...STICK TO YOUR STATE PROVIDED BUS PASS
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Maybe you could give the girl a ride instead
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>>16509660
More like what don't I drive
Give you a hint
>950 hp
>no power steering
>GM
>SS
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>>16509665
Better to be autistic and on the high end of the spectrum than to be legitimately retarded.
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>>16509674
So some other boomers dick?
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>>16509666
Lmao you mad your cousins gonna bang some sloot in your little cuck mobile charger
M-m-m-muh hellcat

Be careful op he might accidently hit your shifter from P to N while he's bumping uglies *gasp*
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>>16509674
>GM
>SS
pigfat boat doesnt matter if it has 9001hp still pigfat gm boat
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>>16509684
BOOMER LEAVE
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>>16509303
Just say no, be like Nancy Reagan.

This shit reminds me of my brother wanting to borrow my FD all the time although he has literally no idea how to drive stick and can't even figure it out with the very visible indicators on the shifter pointing out where each gear is.

I think he's retarded, but he has his series 6 & 63 licenses and an MBA. Probably still retarded.
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>>16509684
Hey now, dodge interiors are very easily damaged. Anon doesnt want a torn up car.
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>>16509689
At least it's not *just* a charger lol a factory built automatic charger that some faggot had to save 15 years for ahahahahaha and some other guy us gonna cuck him and devirginize the back seat while op sits at home and cries on a Eritrean gaucho riding forum
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>>16509712
Falling for the GM muscle car meme.
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>>16509676
At least retards get pity, enjoy becoming the ultimate gentleman with your sick new automatic charger Bruh
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>>16509599
True, I forgot the FD is what ruined the handling of the E36 M3
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Hey op i drive an older American muscle car, my brother kept nagging to borrow it (lol audikek) and I just told "no dude your not on my insurance" and that was that.
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Don't do it.

Say it's broken down Ive used that excuse a bunch
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He already has a Charger and he's worried about that not being enough to impress some girl? Shit man I'm 24 and I have a Civic. If he thinks a 292 HP Charger won't be enough, imagine how he'll drive a 707 HP one.
>protip: straight into another vehicle
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>>16509488
I remember my first time on /o/
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>>16509500
JDM fag here, enlighten me on what happened to the e36.

>>16509521
I gotta ask, what was his response to you saying no, like word for word.

>>16509619
>>16509650
>>16509674
6/10 tried too hard.
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>>16509927
The North American version had almost 100 less horsepower than the European one.
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>>16509819
I'm 25 year old neet with a 16 year old ls1 Commodore I gave up giving a shit what cunts think years ago.
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>family trying to pressure you into letting your cousin drive a car that is very likely to kill him as well as bystanders
I'd literally ask them if they're retarded.
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>>16509692
People with high credentials are typically retarded in every aspect of life except their small field. And even then they usually can't apply their knowledge, just talk about it.
Probably got something to do with autism.
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>>16509927
NA e36 had the motor, diff, and brakes neutered
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>>16509478
>>16509486
>>16509583

Oh, a date is just the beginning- even a double date. The lie sets up an excuse to ask for the car again, and again... and if OP says no, he's being a cunt AND A cockblock.

If OP's shitheel cousin has his way, he'll be out telling anyone and everyone it's his car, until more people believe it belongs to the cousin than know it's actually OP's.

t. anon with similarly pathologically shitty relatives
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>>16509303
If he wrecks your car, will it be insured? Since it is an expensive car, the insurance company is not going to give away any goodwill on it. They often do for small things in order to keep your business or if you have extra points like state farm.

But if your policy says that only YOU are insured and that no one else is insured if you loan the car, then that means your insurance doesn't cover it. Now, if your cousin has shit insurance like liability only, then who knows what happens? Someone else without insurance hits your car while he is driving, then there is zero coverage. The car is lost.

CERRITOS ALLE
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>>16509303
>I figured I would ask her to get the best advise.

What will happen:

1. Your car will be raced at full speed to impress the girl. Otherwise no need for HELLCAT version.
2. Your car will have sex in the backseat. That means pussy juices dripping down with asscrack juices in your seats.
3. Detonating engine sounds like he likes to redline for the fun sound it makes when roaring.
4. Fast angry driving or angry hooning session after dropping off the girl if the date doesn't go well.

Now, if your Hellcat was only a GM Onstar cuckmobile like mine. I have full Onstar which means my smartphone app reports to me everything going on with the car. The driving path, how much time at each spot, tire pressure, battery, using seat belts or not, max speed driven, failure to use turn signals (and how many times), weaving in lane, etc. In fact, GM has cobbled up a set of most-sought-after data and named it "Teen Driver Report Card". If you set that mode, the car also gives you a full report card on the teen driver you loaned it to. Best of all, you have the master PIN, so you can set a max radio volume, refusal to have radio volume above minimal if no seat belts used, and even a max speed the car can go. It also shows the number of panic brakes. So if he slams the brakes to impress the girl with its stopping power, that will appear too. Don't know if FCA has a similar feature to Onstar.

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ANY LOAN of the car must have signature plus a co-signer who guarantees payment if Mr Leadfoot Redlight-Runner doesn't pay up for all scratches, dents, and damages or loss of the car. Rental car replacement must also be paid up to 60 days worth.

Require the co-signer to be one of the adults with enough assets to cover it. And take a picture of the signing. That will psychologically impress upon people the seriousness. The co-signor must pledge the the house if timely payment is not met. That usually means the deed number is listed as collateral on the contract
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>>16509303

Hell NO.

707 horsepower is stupid to hand over to someone who has a history of wrecking cars and nearly killing people. I bet the pink slips to my Mustang GT 4.6 and Volvo S60 2.5t that you will get a knock on the door from the police saying your cousin is dead and the car is a crumpled soda can.

My GT is the 3v paired with the 5 speed manual and it is not for an inexperienced/retarded driver. Do not do it OP.
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>>16509650

t. bus pass holder
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>>16509303

"No, and stop asking."

>fuck family
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>>16509674
>GM
what does it matter if it won't run for more than 10 minutes?
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>>16509303

no. anon dont do this..

damn im mad that you even asked for /o/ 's opinion.
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>>16510628

well done for having a nice car at 25..

why the fk arnt you going on a date?
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>>16509303
>a few of the other side of my family is trying to sway me
He must show you his insurance policy and have full boat coverage. If he only has liability, then things can get tough on you for damage.

If these relatives keep getting involved in giving away other people's property, tell them they must put up a cash deposit ahead of time equivalent to repairing major damage to the car. You hold the deposit.
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>>16509303
NEVER loan a car without a contract.
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>>16509405
>Like I said he really is a nice kid
He is a liar and irresponsible. What the fuck is your problem. Bread on hellcat, you sound like way too much of a pussy to have had your shit together to pay cash for a hellcat.
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>>16510706
OP here. You sound WAY to fucking jealous. Its a fucking car dude..you don't have to be a dickhead because of it. shit.
>>16510633
Way to tired...Thanks for the reminder. I need to have a little fun every now and again and I forget.
>>16509927
When I said no because of the fact that he wants to pretend its his I kinda lost it. He kind of understood he pushed the boundary and apologized. Hes still asking though but I'm still ignoring . As a matter of fact its kinda warm out for winter so I'm thinking about giving her a wash
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>>16509303
If he wrecks YOUR car and injures someone, you might be sued as part of the party responsible if his insurance coverage is not full boat. After all, you provided the unsafe car. It seems wrong, but that's how lawsuits work nowadays.
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>>16509303
>my family is trying to sway me to "let him play a bit".
Does he know how to drag race the car? It takes some skill for him to see how much faster it can get from 0 to 60 on a straight road. The power can make handling it tricky and cause a wreck.
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I'm glad I never had a car like that Hellcat. at the university. Everyone would DEMAND to drive it.
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>>16511332
Tell him to take his own damn charger if he wants to go on a date.
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>>16509303

It's your fucking car, they can go and fuck off.
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>>16509303
I've been in the same situation OP, I own an 10' mercedes E320.
Borrowed it to my fagggot girlfriends brother for one night and managed o get 3 speeding tickets in the process, and was reluctant to pay it as it was my car. Don't do it there is just to much risk involved and nobody cares about your stuff as much as you do.
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>>16509619
Volkswagen golf driver detected. I'm not even a fan of Chrysler but anything with a hellcat in it is awesome.
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>>16512695
not the same guy, I do respect the benchmark dodge has been able to set I would never buy an American car over a german/European car, they are just way better.
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>>16509303
Tell your cousin he can't drive it until he has enough money to buy you a new one if anything happens
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>>16509303
He can take his girl out with his car. She probably won't know the difference anyways.

Just tell him what you said here, he's got a bad track record and you don't feel comfortable putting it in his hands. You guys are family, he'll get over it eventually if he does get asshurt
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Its already been settled guys. I told him no. He is still bitching about it.
>bruh. I think shes the one...I wanna make a god impression bruh...don't you love me
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>>16513821
>hurr durr shes the one
>literally guilt tripping
>thinking a girl even knows the difference between chargers

top kek. He is going all out, isn't he OP?
I have a similar story.
>own a '10 M5 (500hp) and a 03 Focus 3dr hatch
>cousin gets first date
>asks to borrow my "car"
>he has already cause 2 accidents and got 4 speeding tickets in his 92 civic
>show up to his place in the Focus

The look on his face was priceless. At least he was able to impress the girl with driving a stick right?
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>>16513870
Girls really don't give a shit about manual cars.
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>>16509647
This is how you get keyed
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Fucking no? Are you a fucking idiot?

He's not under your insurance, if anything happened (protip: it will) your car is fucking totaled and you get to foot the repair bill.

Tell him to bring you $10,000 in cash as collateral then he can borrow it.

It's your fucking car, not his. Tell him to go work and buy his own.

It doesn't matter how you tell him, just tell him fucking no and then tell him to fuck off because hes pissing you off
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>>16509303
Just say no. Are you bad at saying no or something?

I'm very good at saying no. I've made a career of being a "no man" where many have become "yes men." If you'd like, you can give me his phone number and I'll call him up and tell him no on your behalf.
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>>16514281
>Tell him to bring you $10,000 in cash as collateral then he can borrow it.

10,000 is STILL no good if there is no insurance. Lawsuits are always for much larger amounts. And there is something you might have forgotten in that having insurance means the insurance company provides the lawyers at no extra cost. The insurance company also handles the court costs at no extra cost. All of that is included into the cost of insurance.

It's why you don't loan a car to someone that doesn't have insurance to cover your car. I have Progressive and it only covers the personal car that I have listed on the form plus a rental car that I hire from a rental car agency while my car is in the shop. It doesn't cover all rental cars such as those from a foreign country. In those cases, I have to arrange additional insurance. Always read and understand your policy terms.
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>>16513821
>bruh. I think shes the one...I wanna make a god impression bruh...don't you love me

He wants to make a good impression by LYING to her that it is his car? How is that making a good impression?
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people are such pushover cucks

its like a majority of people let everyone walk all over them
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Tell him to fuck off. That wouldve been my first response
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>>16509303
Bro, don't you love me?

Let me borrow you car. I need it. Let me run some red lights in your car. I want to raise your insurance rates.

Bro, don't you love me?

Let me borrow your car. I need it. I want to drive it around to show my friends. And loan it to them for a redline test drive! So COOoooL!!!

Don't you love me, bro? Don't be a stingy ass know-it-all narc snitch schizo. I need to borrow the car.

All my friends want to test drive it already. And I promised them a test drive.

Bro, let me borrow your Hellcat! I promise to take better care of it than you do! I voted for Hillary so you know you can trust me!
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>>16513821
>Its already been settled guys. I told him no. He is still bitching about it.

Out of curiousity, was he even insured with full comprehensive to drive your car?
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>>16517521
No. He knows being I mentioned it as well. He fails to see the severity in this matter. There is no point in bothering.
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We really need a janitor
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>>16509484
>Loading a howitzer
Kek
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>>16517622
lawl on you.
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>>16509425

Nah the 500hp key is the wife key. For valet mode there is a code you can set on the infotainment that restricts it to 300hp and locks out first gear, that's probably what you wanna do if you do end up lending it to him.
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>>16509594
Why doesn't he just get some hellcat badges to put on his v6? Girls are dumb as rocks she will never know the difference
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>>16509351
I never really thought about it, but holy shit 707hp is nearly 500kW atw... the fastest car I have ever set foot in is a 32 with 400wkw and that shit was terrifying
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>>16513870
Kek I have done this same thing

>have an e100 and a twin turbo z32
>mate asks if he can take my car out with the boys because I'm on a limited licence and can't drive on weekends
>give him the keys to the rolla
>d-don't you trust me bro? I-I can handle 400hp I drive an integra...
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>>16509303
My car my rules.
Get your own.
I don't get it why you have to be so pussy about it.
Offer him to drive him if he needs a lift. If it's an emergency he can always count on you but since it's some petty bullshit he can fuck off.
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>>16509303
grow a set and tell him no

or

take the easy option and say its only insured under your name
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>>16509383
Yes OP, that's the spirit
You work for it, you pay the price
Keep it safe , it's your precious
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>>16509303
Man, fuck your little swaglord faggot cousin, that's your shit you saved up for and it's your baby, and if your family are gonna be scumbags in support of that piece of shit, they can eat a dick too
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>>16509303
Just tell him that girls can't tell the difference between cars beyond how they look, so his car will look just as impressive to girls as yours.
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>>16509303
Like everyone else here is saying, the only correct answer is no. A car that fast with someone like your cousin is only going to end up with him dead and your 60,000 dollar car totaled beyond repair. Don't be an idiot and get guilt tripped by your family, that is your car and you have no obligations to lend it to anyone in your family. Kudos on actually achieving a childhood dream by the way.
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>>16519584
>A car that fast with someone like your cousin
Youtube has examples of fancy sports cars driven by owners who lost control when accelerating. They were not accustomed to handling all that power when they floored it.

That cousin already drives poorly with his existing car. There's no way he will drive "Better" in a car that has Hellcat power. He will lose control when he leadfoots it on a turn. He'll overcorrect for the power and then CRUNCH. Since he only has basic insurance, the lawsuit will instead be upon the car's owner.
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>>16513821
>bruh. I think shes the one.
Did he show you her picture? I want to know what this "She's the one" type looks like.
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>>16509303
DUDE:en oh
say "dude" firmly,then the letter "n" then the letter "o"
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>>16517559
>He fails to see the severity in this matter.

You know where your keys are at all times, right?
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