Stop shilling this shitty cuckbox

B-but I l-like mine

>>16480874

As annoying as Ford shills are on this board I have to disagree with you.

The Fiesta ST is a proper car for the most part.

Light and fun.

>>16480874
people who like cars think this is a great car

>>16480882
>The Fiesta ST is a proper car for the most part.
>Fiesta ST is a proper car
>proper car
>proper

fucking stop this shit

>>16480874
fuck you I have bills to pay asshole

If I was a big poor faggot that liked stupid colors on shitty econo boxes, I would buy one.

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It's a good car though.

>>16480902
It's not, it's just that there's no strong competition

>>16480907
That makes it the least terrible.

Which in perspective is good.

>>16480887

>WAHH STOP CUZ I DONT LIKE FERD!! :()((((( STOP!!!!!!!
>LE FIX IT AGAIN TONY MEME!!! :)))))))))!!!!!

Get fucked retard, the Fiesta ST is a fun car.

>>16480915
Not really - the segment leader would normally be Renault, but the latest gen Clio RS is woeful.
But you can buy previous gen Clios instead which would be a better choice than the Fiesta.
In fact the previous gen Fiesta ST might be better too, but they seem to rust a lot.

>>16480874

Dis is a good car

>>16480915
nigga why are you up still

>>16480932
Have you ever driven one? They're a load of fun. Really easy to get lift off oversteer, interior isn't too depressing and the driving position is good. For 21k it's a great car.

>>16480936
Because it's 620am and I'm shitposting from the shower before work because my woman wanted to stay asleep.

>>16480939
Yes, but I didn't really drive it thoroughly. Just ten minutes at a normal pace.

>>16480946
They're a ton of fun. Manual fiestas are pretty reliable, the automatic is a steaming turd.

>>16480949
I didn't like the steering or driving position. I know those things are subjective but I'm quite fussy about things like that rather than a few hp or lbft here or there.

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>>16480874

Its gud tho.

>>16480945
>because my woman wanted to stay asleep.

What's her BMI and weight, chubby chaser

No, it's the best new car under 30k

>a sporty fwd econobox

how could you live with yourself owning something like this?

>women's car strapped to a pissweak turbo
>fwd

I agree with you OP

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>>16481020
Idk she probably weighs 120lb and is 5'5

>>16481046
kek look at that fucking manlet standing next to her, no wonder this is a fiesta st thread

>>16481057
Iknowright? I'm alright with my height.

>>16480907
>there's no strong competition
Maybe in the third world, it has a lot of strong competitors.

>>16481140
Not really.
Swift GTI - not enough power.
208 GTI - close but not as polished
Polo GTI - too comfy
Clio RS - horrible auto, boring engine

No one's quite there. The Clio 197 was a better car though.

I live in Germany and am now in the market for my first car. I want something that does it all: grocery shopping, bringing all my guitar gear from A to B, go on road trips / vacation with family, and be fun while doing all that. I'll mostly be driving it during winter when I can't take my motorcycle.
My budget is around 5000 €.
Should I just get a Fiesta ST and blow the rest on track days or should I get a Focus ST? Looking for ~2005ish models in both cases.

Fiesta
> lighter
> 4 cylinder tried and true
> no turbo, no turbo lag, less parts to break
> much lighter

Focus
> more power
> 5 cylinders, speshul snowflake and sound
> turbo, more power and gauges and noise
> slimmer but longer, probably more comfortable for passengers

Bump
>>16481274

>>16481274
Focus ST + Hitch to Tow Bike With.

>>16481274
Rover SD1 Vitesse

>>16481274
M O N D E O S T
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>>16481588
mon de ost?

>>16481621
Mondeo st. Hot sedans are fun.

>>16481588
Meh, bit too feisty for my taste and too expensive in Germany (could only find one at around 8k). Think I'll go with the Focus then.
>>16481549

>>16481640
Not a bad choice. Watch some old top gear reviews from the mid 2000s on hot hatch comparison tests. Not very factual, but it'll give you an idea of good options

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>>16481274

>>16481697
No.

>>16481742
>Not wanting hon

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http://www.topgear.com/car-news/geneva-motor-show/toyota-making-rally-inspired-yaris-hot-hatch

>Soon

>>16480874
It's very vaginal, very feminine.

It's alright for a FWD econobox and the best in it's class.
Can't imagine what kind of cuck-mobiles you fuckers drove before that made you call this car "fun".

>>16480924
He's making fun of you for being a retarded britbong, you retarded britbong

>>16481903
All its stellar reviews from established journalists must be wrong too

>>16482204
Keep in mind that every reviewer says it's great in the context of the class (eco-city cars with sporty engines).
It is compared to things like a Fabia or Polo or some other econobox.

Anyone that would compare it to something else than an econobox and says that is great is a paid shill.

>>16481274
Pretty sure all Focus are 4-cyl

>>16482300
Not the Focus ST. i5 2.5L turbo, at least from 2005-2010 I think.

Biggest engine from the current Focus line-up is a 2.3L turbo 4 banger.

I don't get how people don't understand the appeal of this car. Ford is basically doing what Honda did with the Civic in the 90s with shitboxes design. Honestly I thought the consensus on /o/ throwing a shitbox around a corner, that can barely handle it, was fun. Wringing out every last bit of the car on the road is an enjoyable experience even if at times a Corvette blows past me.
>Lightweight
>Cheap
>Tiny

Only problem is when people think they're fast in a straight line like civic fuckbois. The toyotabaru and somewhat the WRX also share the shitbox spirit, they aren't sportscast by far but are designed to driven slowly, fast.

It's nice that Toyota is catching on,
>>16481878
thank god shitboxes are coming back in style in the United States.

It's a good suped up econobox with Recaros and there is no denying that

>>16482243
>>16481903
IT'S NOT FUN GUYS, OTHER CARS ARE BETTER THUS THE FUN YOU FEEL ISN'T REAL FUN AT ALL.

>>16481901
does the female form bother you anon?

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>>16482330
Read my post again. I am looking at ~2005 models.

>>16482355
neither are good first cars get a twingo or kangoo and stfu

>>16482367
I've actually been driving for 8 years now, just never owned a car before.

>>16482377
So that means that it will be your first car.
Are you retarded?

>>16482346
Please describe what is soooo much fun about a FWD cuckbox.

>>16482410
So what makes it a bad "first" car? It can't be the power, because I've driven enough 100-150 PS cars over the years to know what awaits me.

>looks like a tick
>made in mexico
>solid axle
>dirty valves
>FWD

It's not even a 10/10 car, maybe 9/10 at best!

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I prefer my hot hatch, it's lighter than the ST, and the ST is just too damn common in the UK

I swear to god, /o/ has no idea what "cuck" actually fucking means.

>>16483557
Abarth a cute!

>>16483557
*throws pokeball*

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>>16480874
/o/ shills anything cheap because their white trash and poor.
Also its an ugly fucking car. I hate the blob look.

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>>16483557
>>16486007

Fiesta love too?

>>16486026
>posts blob

>>16480874
>300ftlbs or torque to the wheels on a tune
>cuckbox
Wat

>>16481046
Sam????

>>16480874
the focus ST is a cuckbox for people too afraid to get a real sports car

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ITT:
MOM WONT LET ME HAVE A SPORTS CAR OR A RWD CAR SO I HAD TO PICK THIS OTHERWISE I GOT NOTHING

>>16488422
>>16488413
>waahh people have jobs and friends, why didnt they get a 93 miata like me oh my god

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>TFW you take your focus ST to the car meet and the people flagging cars in tell you to go park with the normies

>>16488397
>300lb-ft of torque
>FWD with 205 width tires

Unless you put fucking Hoosiers on it, you can't make use of the torque

>>16488539
You're dumb if you think anyone with 300whtq doesn't have good wheels and tires to handle it. Obviously they've put the time and money into it, no one that does that goes "hurrrrrrr tires/wheels aren't important"

>>16489268
You can get around 280wtrq in a Fiesta ST with nothing but an intercooler and tune

And yeah, they probably have the money for grippy tires, but even Pilot Super Sports can make use of that torque in 1st/2nd gear. You have to sacrifice daily driveability with an Extreme performance tire like a RE71R, which is noisy/flings stones everywhere/has no treadlife.

A slightly bigger turbo that trades torque for HP would be better for the FiST.

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Daily reminder

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>>16489345
>Cobalt SS Turbo (one of the fastest FWD cars) has a torsion beam
>Civic Type R FK2 (second fastest FWD car in the world) has a torsion beam despite normie-version being IRS
>Megane Trophy R (pic related) is THE fastest FWD car in the world and has a torsion beam

Solid axle doesn't matter much in a FWD car, the rear is just along for the ride and doesn't really do anything

Stop liking things I don't like - The thread

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>>16480874
>>16480882
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>>16480887
>>16480895
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>>16480919
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>>16488461

Poor fags spotted.

This car is just a fiesta with a smaller engine that is Turbo charged.

Its not a sports car. Its ford charging more for less and badging with a sport logo. Poor fags eat it up.

>>16489614
Was the time it took you to make that worth it?

>>16489391
You know that torsion beam and solid axle is not the same?

>>16489719
Protip: No one here knows anything about cars.

>>16489719
You know that FWD and RWD are not the same?

poorfags will never stop shilling for their hot meme.

>>16489391
>this entire post
fucking hell m8, do you know what a car is?

>>16489664
In his mind it was.

>>16489741
poorfags don't have the money to finance a 24,000 dollar car

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>Cuautitlán Izcalli, Mexico

>>16492009
>Implying financing a new car isn't the easiest thing to do

>>16483855
It means you bought your wife's kids a fiesta st.

I've never seen an enthusiast board so full of people that hate cars they've never driven.

>>16494331
>/o/
>not hating every car

Choose one.