Why's there so much s197 hate here? You'd think /o/

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>>16452015

I don't think the collective /o/ hive mind actually likes any car. Not even the meme-level Miata or the AE86

ugly
bad image
awful interior
anemic engine

its just a shit

When Ford released the 2015 mustang, they dated this body style HARD. Nobody will ever want it now.

Besides, they are all disposeable cars for high school drop outs and enlisted idiots.

>>16452015
I haven't heard of any. If I ever wreck my foxbody and live I plan on picking one of them up. And they hardly handle like shit stock, just not amazingly.
>complaining about muh plastic interior
I don't caress my dash to get off do it doesn't bother me.

I'd rather have 2011-2014 since the 5.0 is miles better than the 4.6. They also look better.

S550's look too big and fat even if they are objectively better.

Id rather just get a 2011 v6 and get those neat turn signals so everyone can tell what im driving at night

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>>16452015

>V8, 300hp

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>tfw no bbf swapped s197

>>16452085
yup

in an era where <4L V6s and turbo 4s were making 300hp Ford used a 4.6L V8 to do the same while their 4.0 V6 made less horsepower than a 2.0 Honda

>>16452015
>05-09's can be had for <$10000

The weebs here can't afford a car that expensive

>>16452085
The modular was a dated engine, and hardly pushed to it's limit stock.

>>16452015
or you could buy a 350z for same price that will not fall apart, is easier to maintain and handles and looks better.

>>16452085
It may be low HP, but the stock block can handle 1000HP easy, those modulars are extremely robust engines

>>16452256
>350z
>Will not fall apart
>easier to maintain
>handles and looks better

They handle like dog shit, are always owned by mexicans, stupid unreliable, and you look like a complete fag.

>>16452057
And miatas aren't?

No memes aside, I just got a 2006 Mustang GT.
What are some upgrades and mods I can and should be looking to do to make it better?

>>16452299
Rear end gears for more go, exhaust for sound, shortshifter, suspension mawdz.

>>16452299
Upgrade the suspension first, then get an exhaust (the 4.6L modular sounds soooo good), then good tires.

>>16452074
That was the '13.

>>16452073
They also cost twice as much, given, 18K plus isn't that much, but if you have 10K to spend, and you want a v8, the 4.6L is your best option

>>16452033
This. /o/ hates everything

>>16452274
>unless it handles like an elise with slicks on stickytape with 4 tons of areo acting on it it's shit handling
ok.

>>16452057
Sadly this. Though jeeps and challengers are becoming the new thing

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>>16452438
No one is claiming that, bait harder

Also, pic related

>>16452389
> if you have 10K to spend, and you want a v8, the 4.6L is your best option

Except the fbody exists.

That generation of mustang is for moms trying to act cool

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>>16452487
Except at least some people think the OP looks good, good luck getting anyone except your mom inside this hunk of garbage

>>16452507
What happened to cars in the 80s and 90s? How the fuck did they go so far backwards in terms of style?

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>>16452507
>4th gen trans am
>not sexy as fuck
>not the best performance/dollar currently available anywhere in the united states
>not the best engine architecture (GM LS V8 MOTHERFUCKER)
>not having endless potential with endless after-market
>not going 0-60 in under 5 seconds stock

My trans am is faster than a 4.6l 4v mustang, shits on 3v. 2v is not even comparable

my car is only a bit slower than a new 5.0, and it cost like 1/5th the price

and its actually mine, not the ford dealerships


>caring about looks only

What happened to the way it DRIVES?

these f-bodies are HIGHLY underrated in terms of handling feel and cornering ability. they even have double wishbone front suspension

>LS1 V8 up front where it belongs
>T56 6 speed or 4l60e A4 in the middle where it belongs
>Torsen LSD solid rear axle
>coil-over suspension with SLA double wishbone front
>big vented disc all around with twin piston fronts


its not a fucking lambo but it is WAY more car than most people on /o/ have, and they're like $10k for a clean stock example

>>16452763
also
>12.62 e.t

F A S T

>>16452074
you can install sequential turn signals on pretty much any Mustang model now for around $100 and a socket wrench.

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>>16452763

it's cheap because it's ugly, has enormous overhangs and has a shitty interior

kinda wish there was a company that used this car is a donor car with the end result being something that looks like a 1960's european coupe with a nice vintage interior to match.

>>16452763
top 5 ugliest cars ever material

even worse interior
the quality is awful
the engine sounds like shit
still handles like garbage

>>16452785
>overhangs

>i parrot things i hear on /o/

>shitty interior

yeah its a $5k car with 325 hp

buy some corvette seats and a roll of self adhesive vinyl to wrap some interior panels in. the interior isn't even that bad, it is literally a meme

also what mid 90s-early 2000s cars DON'T have cheap interiors?

i prefer the aesthetics and interior design of my EF civic hatch - but EG interiors look like shit

>posting a fucking $500,000 Porsche

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Because a corvette from 1992 outperforms it in every way.

>>16452787
>>16452787
top 5 most butthurt fags on /o/

>muh interior
>muh engine note
>muh handling


the LS1 is god like sound at WOT

and the fbody with the LS1 handles absolutely excellently

my other car is a 2000 LB EF civic, and my 3400 ponti boat still fucking corners


there is NO way that could be a legitimate fault of the car. its just bullshit

>lol we only took that offramp at like 130mph, this car can't even turn

>>16452809
>slower than 4th gen fbody LS1
>same price range
>more maintenance

C4 LT1 6 SPD is an amazing car, but performance/dollar is not there with the LS fbody

>>16452843
its ugly inside and out
the handling IS NOT good just because you think it is
LS engines sound awful Id rather have an LT

its a good car for blind white trash to race away from traffic lights Ill give it that

>>16452843
3400 LB*

also the fbody has literally endless suspension and chassis support. you could make this car into a full-fledged racer with bolt on and weld-in suspension/chassis parts

>not running a tubular engine cradle with tubular upper/lower control arms on adjustable coils and thicker sways

until you do that you can't really complain about handling

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>>16452808
>yeah its a $5k car with 325 hp

it's $5k cause it's ugly and has a shitty interior, not because it's down on power or performance.

look at those overhangs

>>16452878
>you cant complain about handling until you dump thousands into polishing a turd

wow

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I had no real complaints and it was fun to cause butthurt on /o/. I also got mine for 9000 so I made out pretty good.

>>16452015
It wasn't in a Chinese cartoon and LRA memes

>>16452896
Tell us more.
What year? What mods have you done?

>>16452085
Kek my 1986 Mercedes-Benz V8 does 210HP.

Ford is crap.

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>>16452878
>mfw a 1984 corvette out handles an f-body turd

>>16452880
>B-but its ugly!!!
Opinion discarded

>>16452919
So the exact same a a 1986 Mustang GT

Wow, Ford sure is crap

>>16452868
>LS engines sound awful Id rather have an LT


Gen II SBC's do sound really good; classic NASCAR exhaust noise

BUT, the LS1 is VASTLY improved. it is not even comparable. The LS1 is endlessly better

if ALL you care about is sound, the LT1 does sound better. IMO (i have had both)

the LS1 has way better response, acceleration, more torque, more top end, better at higher RPM. sounds better past 5000 rpm. even gets better mpgs

not to mention the after market support of the LS V8 compared to the dwindling support of the Gen 2 LT1

if I were building a gen 2 SBC it would be a 3rd gen with fbody a carb setup


>the handling IS NOT good just because you think it is


tell that to all the SCCA auto-cross f-bodies

>did you k-know your car c-cant even t-turn

>>16452921
>i don't even own a car

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>>16452943
:^)

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>>16452934

it's not even my opinion dude, if they were so great they'd be worth a lot more than $5k.

HEH.. REAL CAR GUYS LIKE ALL CARS.. THUMBS UP IF YOU AGREE

>>16452937
>20 years later.
>90HP more than an old Mercedes-Benz

American engineering everybody.

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>>16452939
Is there honestly that much of a difference between how the LS1 and LT1 sound?

>>16452939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AUtoT3ldng

>i don't like fbodies because there's nowhere to put my purse

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>>16452939
sure its better but I dont care about the being the best

>tell that to all the SCCA auto-cross f-bodies

you can autocross anything
you can prep anything

>>16452964
they're completely different

literally any car can be a track car.
/o/ doesnt know shit about tracking.

>>16452968
>not wanting your performance car to have a proper engine

sorry i can't hear you over my 5.7l V8

>>16452981
...

the LT1 and LS1 are both 5.7

am I missing something

>>16452985
>am missing something

around 50 HP

>>16452998
LT1 sounds better

Id rather spend more on making a LT1 faster than getting an LS

>>16452015
I don't like that particular gen (love every gen but that one actually)

>>16452015
Because you can get a foxbody for much less, then build a 302/351 for it and still not have spent as much.

>>16452015
don't get the hate either, I own a 2014 V6

>>16452963
>2005 S Class with a V8 only made 35bhp more than the Mustang while costing 4 times as much

>>16452977
/o/ doesn't know shit about cars

>>16452977
>muh track time
>muh laps

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>>16452985
Firing order, for one.

>>16452015
i prefer the "updated" versions of them
>V8, 300hp
the newer 3.7L v6 makes 305
and the 5.0L v8 makes 412
they also went from sohc to dohc (tivct)
and that 's mainly why i don't like the 197's

>>16452057
>dated this body style HARD. Nobody will ever want it now
that's some narrow minded think there, anon

>>16452949
>c4 vette
>+ slightly shorter wheel base
>+ slightly lower overall height
>+ 51/49 weight bias
>++ INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION

>LS1 fbody
> + slightly wider track width
> - 56 / 44 front-rear weight bias
> - slightly taller, slightly longer
> - solid rear axle
>similar weight


The C4 is a solid platform for auto-cross or road racing

>>16453080

damn that's a sweet looking twin turbo v8

>>16453005
you don't really know anything about LT1 or LS1 engines

>iron block boat anchor with Siamese exhaust ports (vs aluminum block LS1)
>2 bolt mains (SIX BOLT MAINS IN LS1)
>optishit (instead of coil near plug)
>doesn't make as much power
>doesn't have the after-market or tuning support

and honestly the sound is difference is negligible

getting an inferior engine just for the sound is like a girl buying a brand new car in hot pink because its "cute"

>>16453168
do not care

not a benchracing faggot

the sound difference is noticeable as every LS sounds like shit unless it has 180 degree headers

>>16452015
Modulars are shit for HP gains and people that want to turn corners don't want them because they're LRA boats.
>>16452262
>The block can handle it
The rest of the engine won't without an overhaul. Without getting into wankery the LS platform is substantially more stout.
>>16452085
300 if you're lucky. the 2v engines only made 250-280 HP.

>>16453207
No one's talking about 2v engines in this thread dumbass, s195 uses the 3v

>>16453259
s197*

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>>16452085
name cars around the era that made that much power at around 26k MSRP

>>16453286
Camaro Z28 was $22k to start in 2002.
The Camaro SS was $30k in 2010.

>>16452914
BBK longtubes and xpipe with borla out the back. I was gonna do cams and pulleys plus steeda suspension work but I smacked it up and had to fix it. Good for eating riced civics and v6 camaros but it was underpowered for what it was. I did have a lot of fun in it.

>>16453178
>the sound difference is noticeable as every LS sounds like shit unless it has 180 degree headers

>180 degree meme

good luck fitting those under a car that isn't mid-rear engine

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>>16453286
>Someones using my picture

neat

>>16453312
Ok so there's Camaro with an engine 1.1 liters larger. Got any others?

>>16452418

Above all else, /o/ hates itself. For example:

>HURR DURR FUCK YOU ALL BUNCH OF BENCHRACING, BUSRIDING FAGGOT
>I AM A BENCHRACING BUSRIDING FAGGOT

>>16453520
dump more please, they're nice shots

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>>16453652

>>16453312
so the 5th gen camaro was more, and the camaro ceased to exist in 2002. top kek

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>4.6
>shit

Friendly reminder there is no LS engine faster than this mod motor

https://accufabracing.com/accufab-mustang

GM literally cant compete

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>>16453714

>>16452389
If all I want is a cheap rwd v8 I can get the 4.6 in a crown vic for like $2k

>>16453726
And you'll hate life because everyone will think you're a cop, good look ever having fun with it, and enjoy being targeted by police

>>16453614
>I can't find the goal posts

>I do believe they've been moved, sir

Its nobody's fault but fords that they put a little girl engine into the mustangs

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>>16453806
Stay btfo
GM cant compete

>>16452033

If you look at the threads on /o/ where people actually post their cars, you see that most people are low income animals and will never be able to own any car over 250 hp, thus, they hate everything

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>>16452880
>look at those overhangs

good for aerodynamics desu

>that high-rise wing
>that air induction

s x y

>>16453668
The 5th gen Camaro was MUCH better than a Mustang GT of the same year.
It handles better, it's faster in a straight line, and it has a better interior.

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>>16453887
>Better interior

nigga are you retarded

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>>16453933

>>16452057
>enlisted idiots

Jokes on you i had one BEFORE i enlisted

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>>16453870
>good for aerodynamics desu


is that why its drag coefficient is the same as pic related

>>16452057
As former enlisted Army, can confirm. Though it's the Chargers that most enlisteds get.
To be honest I got my Mustang after I got out.

>that one Specialist who was driving around post with a Viper
>that one guy with the Corvette
Enlisted soldiers will never cease to amaze me with their stupidity

>>16454088
>be enlisted E-4
>buy Cayman S because i can
>single soldier

At least im not the E-5 that DD's a GTR or the guy who owned a Maserati that ive only seen once on post before it was for sale at the Lemon lot

>>16454103
I mean, I get it. If you're a single soldier staying in the barracks and have no bills really but internet and phone, then why not?
Had I not gotten out, and known years before I ETSd that I was going to, I would have gotten a fucking nice car. Probably a brand new Challenger, like one of my close friends just did.

>>16454119
>>16454103
>>16454088

Where were you guys, around here (Maryland) all the enlisted faggots drive riced civics and crotch rockets

>>16454156
I was in Fort Stewart, GA

Most niggers got Chargers and put rims on them. No one will ever convince me that Chargers aren't nigger cars.
The crotch rocket thing is extremely accurate. I knew a fuck ton of people who owned one. I'd say the majority of my friends had one.
It's like a rite of passage as enlisted folk. You get the muscle car or you get the gigantic lifted truck or you get a crotch rocket.

>>16454088
>that one Specialist who was driving around post with a Viper
>that one guy with the Corvette

lol, everytime a unit would come back from the desert you see a fleet of brand new cars bought by E-3's who saved 40k$ worth of danger pay.

>>16454186
>>16454103
>>16454088
fuck this makes me wanna join the military, I'm about to drop out of college and go into the trades, what's the military like? I want to join the Coast Guard

I already have a mustang but not having to pay for housing and having 40K saved up sounds fucking awesome

so if i'm saving up for a muh 'stang. which one should i get?

the first line of 5th gen? 05-10
the second line? 11-14
or the 6th gen?

here are some limits and i won't give (You)'s to memers

>under 20k
because i'm a cheap motherfucker
>v6
in short, because of how shitty the roads are and how stupid people are in my state, i'll never fully use even the 305hp in it. and mainly for DD.
>premium only
it's used so why bother paying as much for a base model?

you can try and convince me to get a v8, but i'll explain why i won't go for it.

>>16454224
>I'm about to drop out of college and go into the trades
go do military instead, i don't want to see another deadbeat scumbag working. you probably won't even make it out of the apprenticeship if you're planning on dropping out of college

>>16454262
I'm not dropping because I'm failing, I'm dropping because money, and I refuse to take out student loans

>>16454247
If you're gonna get a v6, first off, don't get a mustang (like seriously, they don't look that great to justify having a v6) but you're gonna do it anyways because you're a fucking faggot

Get the 11-14 if you have to go with a v6 mustang, I think you can actually get the ecoboost mustangs in that range now too.

>>16454247
the second line 5th gen are so much better than the first, shouldnt even be considered the same gen but w/e

6th will probably be too expensive if you have a 20k budget

>>16454247
>>16454292
Yup, you can http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=37774&modelCode1=MUST&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D37774%26engineCode%3D4CLDR%26showcaseOwnerId%3D1831727%26startYear%3D1981%26endYear%3D2017%26modelCodeList%3DMUST%26makeCodeList%3DFORD%26modelCode1%3DMUST%26mmt%3D%255BFORD%255BMUST%255B%255D%255D%255B%255D%255D%26sortBy%3DyearDESC%26makeCode1%3DFORD%26maxPrice%3D20000%26engineCodes%3D4CLDR%26firstRecord%3D0%26searchRadius%3D100&showcaseOwnerId=1831727&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&makeCode1=FORD&maxPrice=20000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&searchRadius=100&listingId=447399664&makeCode1=FORD&modelCode1=MUST

>>16454292
>having to justify why you drive a certain car
i'm no cuck mister

>>16454308
>the second line 5th gen are so much better >the first gen shouldnt even be considered
yeah, my mistake.

>>16454314
ok i know i'm getting the not v8, but the ecoboost is something i want to avoid for as long as possible

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>>16454339
The ecoboost is faster than the v6 dumbass

>>16454363
did you read my post?

>>16454391
So you purposely would get the slower less fuel efficient car, over the slighly faster car with more aftermarket and much more fuel efficient car

you're a dumbass

>>>/out/

>>16454412
i feel like you just wanna call someone a dumbass
here's your slightly faster and much more fuel efficient (You)

>>16452015
/o/ hates everything under ~$5k


Just give it 10 years and they'll worship them

Along with E90's and B7's etc

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>>16453286
Can you name the truck that is four wheel drive smells like a steak and seats 35?

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pic is my stang

I'm not a huge mustang fan, it just makes a lot of sense at it's price point. Hard to beat the combination of speed, reliability and ease of maintenance for the money.

With my only major mod being a Brembo BBK from a Shelby GT500 I'm able to track it confidently on a decent set of summer tires.

>>16452015
It's a mustang so automatically hated by 95% of /o/.

>derp lolcantturn pigfat lra

>>16454486
12 yards long and 2 lanes wide, its 65 tons of american pride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkapW5ob9Qs

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I have one. It's great. I bought mine for $9900 back in early 2015 with 93k miles. I have all the service logs for it too and everything. I could've gotten it for $200 less but I told the owner if he through in the wheels I would give me $9900.


I've had ZERO problems with it except a $60 throttle positioning sensor go bad on me. Drives great and rides great. I've got 111k on it right now and I've done a full exhaust with long tubes, cams and intake. All of this was only a little less than $1800 and it bumped me up from 271rwhp to 337rwhp on 87 octane pump gas.

>>16454563
Same reason I bought my mustang, I don't like them, but at the time, it was the only car that had everything I wanted in my price range

>>16454610
Mustangs are pretty hard to beat from a pricing standpoint

>>16453396
Can you hear the gas flowing through your exhaust at low RPMs if you gas it or are next to a wall?

>>16454593
Win!

because they're fat and slow

>>16452262
Block may be able to handle 1000hp(I don't know to be honest), but once you get near 500rwhp, you're getting ready to blow the motor if you don't upgrade the internals. Most guys stay at 450rwhp with a supercharger/turbocharger setup if they want to make sure the motor wont give up. So claiming a 1000hp capability from the block doesn't really do much for anyones argument.

>>16452015
i think it looks better than the new one to be honest

>>16452015
I really want a manual GT with a glass roof for comfy cursing. I already have a dd and a fun car. Too bad I'm a broke collagefag rn.

>>16455989
I don't. The new ones look absolutely amazing