If I tried to daily this would I die?

Probably. It rides so smooth you might fall asleep at the wheel.

looks like shit, heavy as shit, slow as shit, can'tturn as shit, gets mpgs as shit

why the fuck would you want to daily one of these?

>>16410182
I was born in a liberal family and grew up with sensible efficient cars. I want a big ostentatious American land yacht like a jew wants a Christmas tree

>>16410182
>looks like shit, heavy as shit, slow as shit, can'tturn as shit, gets mpgs as shit

Sooo it's like a German luxury car, but reliable?

>>16410170
It's a big car

>>16410170
It would be extremely painful at the gas station.

>>16410201
For you

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>>16410199
>70s amerishitmobiles
>reliable
this must be bait. nobody is this retarded, not even people that like those cars

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>>16410206
Anon those kinds of people are the most retarded

>>16410206
>>16410214

Spotted the eurocucks. It's 8.2 liters and it's putting out 230hp... It will run on the tears of Europeans with no oil forever. BTW It's faster than your modern shitboxes.

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>>16410227
>It's 8.2 liters and it's putting out 230hp
>weighs 4000+lbs
holy fuck, does that thing even move under its own weight?

>>16410236

0-60 in 9.7. It's closer to 6000lbs.

That makes it a supercar by European standards.

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>>16410245
>0-60 in 9.7. It's closer to 6000lbs.
you cannot make this shit up. I guess my mom's honda odyssey is also a supercar then since it could blow the doors off that piece of shit, if the piece of shit doesn't break down before 60

>>16410255
Going fast isn't even the point.

>>16410255

>44 years of engineering to barely beat a 6000lb land yacht

That's uhhh impressive?? It's still faster than your bus though ;)

>>16410272
>>16410276
>BTW It's faster than your modern shitboxes.

>>16410279

Not designed to be fast. Still faster than most modern Euro shitboxes. Here's your daily reminder that a Twingo does 0-60 in 14.

>>16410245
>9.7
maybe off the showroom floor... closer to 19.7 seconds in 2017. or 29.7 with your fat ass in it possibly lmao

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>>16410170
DO it, you magnificent bastard.

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>>16410290
suddenly a 1.0l twingo is "most modern euro shitboxes"
lmao

euros know how to do landbarges properly... not piece of shit fwd lead trash cans

>>16410290
just refuting your point that it isn't faster than my mom's car, let alone mine. the difference between modern euro shitboxes and that car is that they are reliable and save gas, that is their point.

>>16410205
The fuel consumption rises brother

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>>16410292

I don't think British people get to call Americans fat anymore... How the fuck do your cars move these things with 0.5l engines? That must be why none of you people can drive cars.

>trailer trash americuck this upset people dont like his aircraft carrier on wheels
kek, hes probably a nigger

>>16410306
why in the fuck do you think he is british? did your retarded brain just decide that's what he is?

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>>16410306
im not british, not even european
keep up with the desperate memes though its hilarious

>posting two people that would be considered a 'healthy weight' in america
TOP KEK

>>16410303

You all drive twin turbo V12 Mercedes? Yeah fucking right. Not working at Tesco for $6 an hour...

>>16410304

>european shitbox
>reliable
wew.

Why are you bragging about your car (which probably only exists on Gran Autismo) being faster than a 6000lb boat?

>>16410319
>just refuting your point that it isn't faster than my mom's car, let alone mine
can you fucking read or what? I'm not bragging, I'm telling you you're wrong

>>16410314

British Benefits couple ‘too fat to work’ celebrate first wedding anniversary at KFC
A COUPLE dubbed as Britain’s fattest scroungers were seen celebrating their first wedding anniversary at KFC – months after shedding 13 stone.

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>>16410323
at least they arent bed ridden

>>16410255
Your mom's honda is fourty years newer, dude. That's not something you can brag about. It'll be old one day too.

>>16410311
wew lad, why are so salty?

>>16410330
I'm not bragging about it you dumbfuck namefag, he said
>BTW It's faster than your modern shitboxes.
so I proved him wrong

>>16410314
>why in the fuck do you think he is british?

I've been here long enough to sniff out the jealousy in europoor's comments.

>>16410336
and ive been here long enough to sniff out underage americans on christmas break
gtfo

Of hunger yes. The gas bill will drain all your main and savings accounts.

>>16410199
No its an old American car you're going to constantly be fucking with the distro and carb

>>16410352
OP here, What would a fuel injection conversion do for me?

>>16410358
That's not true. Once it's set, they're pretty reliable. I used to DD a '72 Eldorado; now, I DD a '66 Imperial.

Front shocks wear out quickly, but are an easy repair. The only thing that I hate to fix is the climate control and axle boots. Everything else is stout. Fuel economy is in the teens; which isn't terrible, but the ride is exceptional.

>>16410366
If I bought a cheap one and had 2-3k extra to spend what should I get taken care of?

>>16410372
Buy a nicer one instead; they need very little, so your best bet is to buy the nicest car you can from the start.

Upholstery work is expensive, all parts have to be ordered in, but they're torque monsters and are spirited; though, not the quickest.

If the car isn't rusty or worn, that's the most important part. Stripping off the emissions crap and adding an Edelbrock carburetor (size depending upon whether you want power or fuel economy) really helps, too.

>>16410305
Ehhhh if you want a car and can afford it why not

>>16410385
they expect one of us in the wreckage brother

https://youtu.be/eEnmysbVqBg

>>16410335
LOL you 1 example. not exactly proving him wrong. besides, I wouldn't exactly call a Honda Odyssey a shitbox

>>16410236
535 ft lbs of torque @2800 rpm you mongoloid

>>16410384
Thanks for the advise. If you have any other words of wisdom I'd love to hear 'em.

>>16410170
It would be extremely painful to park at a Costco.

>>16410772
It's a big parking lot.

>>16410352
By the 70's points were just about extinct.

>>16410358
EZ EFI bolts right on to a 4 barrel manifold and costs no more than $2000 and can be made to run on anything.

>>16410418
No problem. If you aren't experienced with working on a classic yourself, these cars are a great way to learn. Is there a reason you want an Eldorado, though?

>>16410170
I ran one of those in a demo derby years ago. That thing was a fucking monster. 500 cu.in. engine and fwd, it would spin around like nothing in the pit

>>16410358
Not enough to justify the expense. You'd do better improving the efficiency of the engine which has been compromised by emissions. Ignition timing advance will be lazy and the cam will be something like 10 degrees retarded compared to a similar item from before the emissions era. Intake air temp will be run up over 150F by the Thermal Air Cleaner. First-Gen pellet-type cats are horribly restrictive. Not to mention the original exhaust on such cars is a disaster from the standpoint of flow and power. It should be nearly silent though which was what they aimed for.

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>>16410855
>Implying throttle body injection is actually an improvement over carbs.

>>16410170
Why would you die? It has power steeringnpower brakes and seat belts. I'd daily drive something from the early 40's if I could afford it in running condition.

>>16411686
Implying it's not

>>16411707

There is a reason it only existed from the mid 80's-early 90's only to be replaced by multi-point injection. It was unreliable and offered no efficiency gains over carbs, only electronic complication.

>>16411722
>There is a reason it only existed from the mid 80's-early 90's only to be replaced by multi-point injection.
Because nobody wanted to redesign intakes on engines that had existed since the 50's.
Either way, TBI is the only option that bolts on and it'll go bang every time on demand.

>muh muh carb does too!
Yeah after you crank for a solid 17 seconds and have to set the choke.
>inb4 someone says i don't like carbs.

>>16411746
>Because nobody wanted to redesign intakes on engines that had existed since the 50's.
Yes, Detroit being lazy as a bag of shit as usual.

>>16411748
>2017+12:11 hours
>still using pushrods
KEK

>>16410170
that is a good car for a 80 yo guy so he can drive to the church

>>16411770
Or a black guy with a lime green suit.

>>16411722
Driveability is the main reason to upgrade to EFI. Particularly in cold weather and big elevation changes.
On colder humid days carbs usually run like shit for the first 5 minutes or so of driving until the engine gets some heat in it, a well adjusted choke helps but it can only do so much. You get used to how they act though.

>>16411833
>big elevation changes.
Just wanna say something, EFI won't cure a lack of air, it'll only optimize a fuel charge for the available air.

>>16411854
That's the point. Not having to reject at elevation is that benefit

>>16411857
I've argued with people on /o/ that didn't understand that higher elevation meant less air, i just had to say it because of my autism.

>>16410196
Can you or are you willing to turn your own wrenches? Those cars are generally reliable but like anything 40 years old there's gonna be issues that pop up. Being able to diagnose and repair problems yourself will help a lot. Having to get it towed to garage for every little thing is not only going to hurt your wallet, but also discourage you from owning it.

It happened to a friend of mine. He saw me playing with old cars all the time and liked driving them so he bought a '79 Town car. It was ok at first but when shit like the starter solenoid or coil crapping out popped up, he was unwilling to get his hands dirty and didnt want me to show him how to fix it. he ended up selling it and buying a Focus lol.

>>16410170
You'll become Italian.

>>16410319
>trash talking Gran Turismo

Not even him but you don't diss GT you faggot

>>16411746
>Yeah after you crank for a solid 17 seconds and have to set the choke.
Obviously never owned a carbed car.

Protip: EFI engines crank longer than carbed ones

>>16412165
>Obviously never owned a carbed car.
I own two in addition to a motorcycle.

>>16411533
Fuck demo derbies

>>16410328
Puffy

>>16412191
Couldn't agree more.

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>>16410170
I dailied a 79 and it was the best choice, except my wallet cried every five minutes when I had to get gas. 425 v8, about 15 mpg

>>16410335
It probably is faster than that odyssey. For top speed, anyway. Not acceleration.

>>16411057
>Is there a reason you want an Eldorado, though?
It's a 2 door coupe that's 18 feet long and has an 8.2L engine.

>>16410170
Yes.
You go bankrupt after going to the gas station and die of starvation.

>>16412941
It's also FWD and very slow for an engine that size. Very slow.

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I daily drive this. don't cry about MPG..

>>16412950
Every car that size will be "very slow". Of course a 70s landbarge won't accelerate as quickly as a GTR. Who actually gives a shit? It's wholly sufficient for public roads.

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I would recommend buying a big-ass 70's gas guzzler, they're real fun to drive. But its going to be slow as hell and expensive to run and maintain when shit breaks, so make sure to get a car that redeems itself somehow. eg, its RWD or it has bitching styling (toronado or riviera)

However, if youre going to buy a classic, always make room in the budget for a reliable daily for when the classic breaks down, like a 90s corolla as a back up. Ive tried to DD run down old cars as my only car, its too hard especially if you have to go to work everyday.

>>16410781
For (you)

>>16411833

I am well aware of the advantages of multi-point injection over carbs. However, in this case the advice to retrofit to TBI is bad not only because of the $2k price but also this car is a classic and it would fuck up the resale value. Plus TBI engines will never run as well as multi-point injected units. That was my original point. You might as well keep the carb.

>>16412970
looks fun
treefiddy?

>>16412970
Well yeah, those things are fucking powerhouses. Mine had the 300 in it and those things just don't die.

>>16412979
Right I'm just saying why bother bragging about having 8 liters when it's completely moot. The car might be on the larger size but a jaguar is almost as big and is much faster with half the displacement

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>>16410245
nigger my 2001 Škoda Octavia I 1.9TDi 81kw 235Nm 50 mpgs is fucking FASTER than that.

>>16413801
Protip: if you're buying a land-barge like that you don't care about going fast.

>>16413832
can anybody interpret this?

>>16413834
Are you blind or just retarded? If you don't care about going fast then don't brag on having 8 liters of gutless wonder. It just makes the car look bad.

>>16413844
Why not? It's literally the same shit as
>my television is 72" and does super ultra 8k turbo remix
>but you're watching the same shit as everyone else

If anon wants an 8-liter 'murrikan torque boat, so be it.

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>>16413836
>cheap AND practical
>legenary unbreakable 1.9 TURBO DIESEL INJECTiON

basically, this is a fucking HYPERCAR
and you are a fucking IDIOT

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>>16413801
A Jaguar will exactly not be faster because it's going to be broken all the time. Also no European car ever got close to the size of these boats apart from Rolls Royces and the Benz 600 maybe.

>>16413844
Having that big engine sound is reason enough. Besides, if a 5k pound car with 1970s suspension WERE fast it would literally kill you.

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>>16413869
>European """"full size"""" sedans are two feet shorter than an American coupe.

>>16413844

So a "gutless" 14 liter diesel truck putting out only 500hp looks bad?

It's nice cruising at idle and not redlining it in every gear to hit the speed limit.

I can tell you've never dunk the sweet torque nectar.

>>16413832

Your car that's 30 years newer is barely faster? That makes you look really bad bud.

>>16413017
>it has bitching styling (toronado or riviera)
>tfw had the opportunity to buy a first gen Toronado with the underrated-to-fuck Super Rocket and passed it up because I was a retard
Every day I hate myself.

>>16413880
Personally I can't really hear the difference between a 3.9L V8 and a 7L V8. Maybe it's in the volume, but I wouldn't want to be an obnoxious fuckwrinkle and drive around with a straight piped car anyway, especially not daily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKZ5_IFI3YI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzhboQfaza4

>>16413924

I bet you have a fart can on your civic...

>>16413911
American cars are world champs at wasting space. The interior space is hardly any better than in European cars, you only get a little more trunk space and some more hood.

>>16413929
I have a stock Toyota Corolla diesel, thanks for asking.

>>16413924
A big part of it is displacement, firing order and camshaft. What gives the big old American V8s their distinct 'lumpy' sound is the low idle and unique firing order (different for each manufacturer's engine, people with a good ear can tell an engine just from the way it sounds when it's blurb-blurb-blurbling at idle).

Unlike the Rover video you posted, often you don't even need to rip out your exhaust if you want it loud. You just push the gas, because moving that much shit in a fuckhuge engine tends to make a lot of noise.

>>16413915
>barely
oh nigger that's a racecar we're talking about

also
>big fucking trunk as fuck, even better in Combi (saloon)
>comfy 90's interior
>czech creativity combined with german reliability
>ABS, ASR, airbags everywhere
>also comes in 4WD
>light, 1250kgs
>50mpgs not fucking kidding
>manual transmission
>very small turbo lag
>MANUAL TRANSMISSION
>that FUCKING torque
>MANUELLE TRANSMISSIONE

>>16413959

Why are you bragging about a walmart tier VW when it get's out performed by a 6000lb boat or a truck?

>>16413994
yea nah no heavy useless piece of shit can outperform this little beautiful and curvy miracle..

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For the last ten years I've dd American landyachts.

Started with a late 90s caddy, then late 80s lincoln, now a late 70s lincoln, just keep going farther back.

I'm surviving just fine. Nice and comfy. A bit of work to keep up but worth it.

What kind of econocuck actually gives a shit about mpg? Gas is $2/gallons

What kind of bench racer actually gives a shit about power/handling? Cars idle in traffic or go the speed limit 90% the time.

>>16414141
>What kind of econocuck actually gives a shit about mpg? Gas is $2/gallons
they're not called europoors for no reason

>>16414141
>Gas is $2/gallons
is $6/gallon in a lot of places in europe

>>16414180

I could still easily afford that here in Canada. Filling a big truck would suck a little bit but not to the point of needing to drive 0.7l diesel clown cars.

I guess they're just really poor.

>>16414209
they drive clown cars because streets are tiny cobblestone lanes and taxes on bigger cars makes them even less of an option
not many people in manhattan drive either

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>>16414180
Well, I assume OP lives in Freedom Land. My '66 Imperial with its 440 is more practical than a brotruck and the 454 in my Excalibur is a thirsty devil, but I'm going to drive around in my big-block V8-powered classics; barges with whaleskin hub caps and all leather cow interiors
And big brown baby seal eyes for headlights, yeah, and I'm gonna drive around in that baby at 115 mph; getting one mile per gallon, sucking down quarter pounder cheese burgers from McDonald's in the old fashioned non-biodegradable Styrofoam containers and when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers I'm gonna wipe my mouth with the Israeli flag and then I'm gonna toss the Styrofoam container right out the side and there ain't a goddamned thing anybody can do about it you know why? Because we got the bombs, that's why. Two words: nuclear fucking weapons, okay? Russia, Germany, Romania; they can have all the democracy they want. They can have a big democracy cake walk right through the middle of Tienanmen square and it won't make a lick of difference because we've got the bombs, okay?

AMERICA!

>>16413915
You people are delusional, have fun with your boat anchor. I fucking like cadillacs I was just saying you're retarded for saying hurt durr 8.2 litars when an engine half as big does the same and sounds better doing it (also has more than adequate torque)

This one goes breddy good, 71 Oldsmobile manual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzBOsbcvOxk

>>16414277
So I should rip the 440 out of my New Yorker and put in a 318 because you think it's too big?

>>16414311

How the shit is that 3600lbs? Seems way too light.

>>16414327
You should rip that argument apart and tell me what's wrong with it. I can tell you're an idiot because you miss the point by 225 inches. That's pretty long, isn't it, little man? Pretty long. Go fuck yourself.

>>16414389
Because it's a midsize car. Most of the "gigantic heavy shit car" stuff comes from the late-70's full size land barges that were huge for the sake of being huge; the late 60's/early 70's intermediate sized cars were surprisingly light, and a fair number of them actually handled pretty well, especially the B-body Oldsmobiles like the one in that video.

>>16414389
Because the cutlass was a goddamn masterpiece

>>16414441
>B-body
A-body, fuck me.

>>16414441
>midsize
bro have you ever seen one of those in real life? they're just as large as the new Challengers. they're fucking enormous compared to the old mustangs, camaros, etc.

>>16414389
Oldsmobile was the best American make for decades. They actually knew how to build cars

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>>16414444
Those numbers don't lie.

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>>16414453
>bro have you ever seen one of those in real life?
Yeah, there's a few of them around here. In particular there's an older guy and his wife who owns a fucking mint '70 or '71 Cutlass S in cream and beige that I've seen multiple times but never had a chance to stop and talk to, makes my dick rock hard every time I see it.

They're big, but certainly not huge, and definitely not as bulky as a Challenger (look at the sedan next to it!)- some quick googling says a third gen Cutlass is within three inches of a current gen Challenger in every dimension, with the latter having a few inches longer wheelbase and weighing almost half a ton more. The full size 88 had over a foot longer wheelbase than the intermediate cars and that wasn't even the largest sedan from the Big Three at the time.

They're bigger than Mustangs and Camaros for sure, but those were never big cars to begin with- pony cars, smaller cars with big engines, not muscle cars, medium sized cars with even bigger engines.

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>>16414459
>older than General Motors itself
>first assembly-line produced car
>first high compression OHV V8, put into the first muscle car
>first American turbocharged production car
>first FWD American car since the prewar era
>Quadrajet
>Hydramatic
>OW43 DOHC 455
>Cutlass/442
>Hurst/Olds
>Quad-4
>Aurora
>managed to hold on to their Rocket V8 until fucking 1990 in the face of everyone having to use the standard small block Chevy

>everything really cool was either shitcanned or given to the Corvette
>suffered the same way Pontiac and Buick did because muh Corvette
>too much in-fighting between GM divisions meant they had no idea what spot Olds took in the heirarchy- entry level luxury? performance? everyman's car? we just don't fucking know
>wound up with nothing but a fleet of soulless shitbox rebadges
>atrocious "not your father's Oldsmobile" advertising campaign was another nail in the coffin
>eventually died a sad, painful death despite making a number of highly successful cars again at the end because GM claimed they weren't selling enough and the bean-counters finally had an opportunity to get those motherfuckers in Lansing to stop making shit that drew sales from other GM divisions

>>16410202
For (you)

>>16410170
It would be extremely expensive

>>16413921
>turning down a first gen toronado
i know its FWD, but you must be genuinely retarded to turn it down to be honest family

>>16413496

You don't have to throw away the carburetor when you do the retrofit, you know. Reap the driveability now, put the carb back on at resale, win/win.

>>16414786
I'm a rich guy

>>16416944
For me

>>16410182
poor fag

>>16413866
>Hyper car by yuropoor standards

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do you ever wish you owned street legal tank?

I would DAILY the shit out of a tank.

>>16414209
holy shit it's a talking leaf