How many /ST/ bros we got on here?

considering one. is it true that you can't turn the torque vectoring off, unless you pull the fuse which also has ABS on it?

>>16403705
Sounds about right. Why do you want it off? To eat less brake pads?

>>16403701
Not really ST, but I have an 03 SVT Focus I recently got. I am loving it so far.

Si4lyfe.

>>16403705
You can turn traction control off, but not torque vectoring. They are different.

>>16403701
+1 Fiesta ST

>>16403728
Gang gang

>>16403728
>>16403745

Oh, I guess RS is the fast one. ST is comparable to Si. I guess we can be friends and jelly of the RS / Type Rs together.

>>16403772

Hmm, you fags have us Si fags beat by a couple milliseconds to 60.

Lolled when I saw the same boy-racer seats while reading about it.

Didn't even know the ST was a thing. Just the the RS.

>>16403701
former, got one when they first came out and quickly got rid of it because I realized you guys are a bunch of fags and possibly even worse than Subaru owners. have fun with your shitbox that needs tires every 10k miles and brakes every 20.

>>16403821
>I got rid of a car because I didn't like other owners and that's it

No you didn't. You didn't like the car or you never had one at all. Nobody is that autistic, since you aren't forced to talk to other ST owners.

>>16403719
brake pad wear doesn't bother me as much as not having full control

time to buy my sister a car soon.

reliability is #1 priority, me being able to grab it whenever i want to and have fun in a car I wouldn't own myself is #2

so, how unreliable is it

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>>16403935
Torque vectoring is fun on the track though, and doesn't feel intrusive to the driving experience. I've tracked mine, it really helps mitigate understeer.

>>16403949
>how unreliable is it

It isn't. The only significant problem with the Fiesta/Focus are the auto transmissions, which you can't get on an ST. I don't think there are any widely documented issues in fact.

>>16403962

so absolutely nothing I should worry about, and look out for then? at all?

>>16403950

Did that ST just see an Si or just leaking fluids because Ford reliability?

>>16403971
Is Focus ST and Civic Si bantering the new Lancer Evo vs. WRX STi?

>>16403981
As an Si owner I hope so

Considering trading my Celica GTS for a Fiesta ST.

Only 17 hp upgrade though, doesnt seem worth it...

>>16403981

This >>16403988 - I just started this shit yesterday so I am not sure it was a thing before, but it's fun to have retarded rivalries.

>>16403935
Because you're so hardcore right?

I have a FiST. I beat the hell out of her though. I feel bad sometimes but I like to think she wouldn't want to go out any other way.

>>16403994
There's a yellow ST around town that races me pretty much every time I see him always a close one too so the rivalry hits close to home too

>>16403971
>Focus ST
>250hp and more twist than the average truck

>Civic Si
>200hp and 3 torks

>>16403950

Not sure if its just the picture, but that front end looks comically bad from this angle.

>>16404023
because i like having fun, and that's what the fiesta st is supposed to be. seems weird that they haven't allowed the driver to turn the torque vectoring off.

>>16404042
Not that guy, but to be fair that Civic has a more aggressive final drive which makes up for the torque.

It also has a much superior engine, can be built with more power either n/a or with forced induction.

>>16404083
Torque vectoring is there to make it fun in the first place. Understeer isn't fun.

It's there to kick the tail out off throttle, and stay neutral on throttle. It doesn't even feel like an FWD car until you break traction on the fronts.

You can turn the stability control all the way off if you want fun.

>>16403701
considering the fiesta as a second car

>>16403971
lol a civic si of the same year cant keep up. mine also has a bigger turbo than stock

>>16404113
Turbo/SC + supporting mods is a lot of money though. In the ST you just need a tune, maybe an intercooler if it's aggressive enough.

I'll admit the K24 is a beast of an engine though. It pisses me off they're going from a 2.4L NA to a 1.5L turbo this gen though.

>>16404115
maybe it is fun, but why not offer the option for the system to be turned off. it would be fun trying to balance the throttle yourself instead of having the car do it.

>>16404130
Put a turbo on my Si and laugh at all the ST fags wondering why they can't keep up

Is there actually an Si/ST rivalry in the car community or are we just making this up?

Thought about buying ST.

Couldn't get past FWD
Prices used ones were going for at the time

I have a 2013 Speed3, can I join?

>>16404160
Bit of column A and a bit of column B

>>16404226

Do you get wheelhop of off the line? Zoom zoom, don't tear your axles apart.

>>16404243

No I don't. Even with second gear boost limit removed

>>16404142
Torque vectoring is there to mimick a LSD. I don't know how you would replicate that yourself.

>>16404293
but its not an lsd. it's a half-baked in between that cant be turned off. doesn't make sense for something that's supposed to be a """drivers car""".

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>>16403924
there were three of them in my part of town, on two different occasions I came out of a store to find another one parked right next to mine and the creepy fuck that drives it sitting there waiting to talk to me. then another one posted pictures of my car on instagram, posted all over the place saying "tag the owner" until someone finally tagged me and he kept trying to get me to have a "photoshoot" with his awful looking car.

so yeah you guys are a bunch of fags. I had nothing against the car but it was nothing special. my Si was way more fun.

>>16403966
I've read over and over again on FoSTs that there is a stumbling idle or stalling out from a stop. Something about the wiring harness being completely fucked up but I have no clue if they fixed them yet. I read cases of 2016MY models being affected.

>>16404833
This can be explored during a test drive though can't it? Or does the problem show up later?

I really fucking love my ST but I would never buy one again

>>16404839
I can't say for sure, this is just purely anecdotal based on my research on the FoST forums. Most of the owners have owned the cars for awhile, except maybe those who bought MY2016 models. And I didn't keep track of those who reported their problems whether if they modified their car or not.

>>16404853
Why out of curiosity?

I agree though. As fun as this car is, every car I've owned has been FWD with 4 cylinders, I want something new.

focus ST owners are vaping mouth mouthbreathers with [HOONIGAN] stickers and other cringey shit

fiesta ST owners are ok and pretty fun though

Can these cars actually be driven in a lax manner? I considered a Mazdaspeed 3 and most reviews complained about how very much the car was just GO GO GO GO, as well as the clutch being very much on or off.

>>16404872
Yep! Takes a light foot but it's pretty enjoyable to row.

>>16404872

The Si can for sure, but it's always begging you to redline.

>>16404862
I guess I'll list a few reasons

the steering set up for one. Low speed I feel like I'm driving a truck. a bit of uncertainty. feels fucking stupid that I have to do 3 point turns on 3-4 lane wide streets for a u turn.

wheel hop and wheels spin everywhere (only on cobb ots 1). I have a decent motor mount too

the fucking blind spots (a pillar in particular), rear window visibility is meh (i have no back up cam)

also yeah I really like driving rwd cars and ones that have a better seating position. I have stock cloth seats and even making the seat as low as possible i feel like I sit high

If i do sell it I will miss high way pulls.

>>16404872
yeah you can easily drive these like normal. I daily mine in about 1 hr of traffic. Clutch is easy esp with helper spring. I'm at about 60k miles
but when traffic opens up suddenly you find yourself in 4th gear and going 80

>>16404872
My Fiesta ST has that GO GO GO personality of a hyperactive puppy, but the clutch is super easy. It takes a light foot to stay off boost, but third/half throttle is perfectly fine for lax commuting.

>>16404914
>>16404913
>>16404894
Sweet thanks. I live in the Bay Area in bumper to bumper stop and go traffic so this is exactly what I wanted to hear.

>>16404913

>the fucking blind spots (a pillar in particular), rear window visibility is meh (i have no back up cam)

This was my problem with the Ford Focus, sucks on highway while checking blindspot. I did have a backup cam, but meh, it was fine without it.

Btw, drove a 350Z, is clutch heavy as fuck normally or was the one I drove probably modded?

>>16404930
I found the clutch engagement on the 350 to be weird, very sudden.

>>16404869
Is the ST community actually like this? The guy who installed the downpipe on my FiST (he owned a FoST) suggested I join a local ST group on Facebook. I don't have Facebook but have been considering becoming more of a normalfag and getting one. Are ST guys a bunch of swaggots or are they normally pretty cool?

>>16404982
yes sadly it's true. I own a fiesta ST and some focus ST owner came up to me while washing my car and told me the same. I did and everything is shitty fb memes, people bragging about street racing (in a straight line kek ok senpai), and posting their shitty modzzzzz.

I actually tried to put some effort in and went on a group drive with them and while all the fiesta ST and focus RS owners were bros the focus ST owners I could hardly stand. at least two of them had [HOONIGAN] all over the cars.

Maybe that's just what normies are like though

>>16404982
it's a mixed bag desu. i'd say the stereotype of FoST being more vapelords is true. But there's also a lot of guys who bought them because it's bigger/more power and still do track/autocross. I fall into that category.

I probably should have gotten the FiST tho.

>>16404982
FiST and RS guys are usually alright. The FoST attracts the same kind of crowd that the WRX and Civic does for some reason though. Lots of HOONIGAN stickers, vape, roll racing, and BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST.

>>16404982
They're swaggots like WRX owners, but WRX owners aren't so bad if you can get past the snapback-wearing and vaping. They'll always be up for highway pulls or fuckery at the lights.

>>16404130
>>16404042
>taking banter seriously

>>16405000
>[HOONIGAN]
whats wrong with this faget?
no fun allowed

>>16407164
everything is wrong with that

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>>16407551
>its wrong because i say it is

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ayyy

funny to quickly scroll through and see all the butthurt Si fags

I went from a full bolt ons/cammed/tuned Si into my ST and I will never look back.

The only thing the Si had over the focus would be I loved the 8th gen interior plus 9k redline.
ST interior is definitely a little lack luster

Focus has been far more enjoyable, faster, and the nice trade in ACTUAL torque low end instead of a strung out top end is something I never knew i needed

>>16408197
Right? Revving past 7k in traffic just to have fun makes me look like a douche. Being able to have fun without going past 5k is nice.

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>>16403701
there's usually 2 or 3 everytime a post your car thread pops up. so I would be willing to bet at least 7

Anyone here got the 2.0 Diesel FoST?

Whats it like compared to petrol version?

>>16409185
That exists?

Why do Euros like diesel so much?

>>16409206
Because fuel costs 4x more here

>>16409206
Governments memed us into buying diesels

>>16409206
There's the option of a 2.0L Diesel and the 2.5 Petrol here in Bongland

>>16409210
>>16409220
Yeah but ST is the sport version. Diesel isn't sporty.

>>16409236
>diesels arent sporty

You haven't driven the right diesel then but yeah they probably just called it ST because it has as much horsies as a Golf GTD. Also because its a ST with a diesel engine.

>>16404042
>more twist than the average truck
No
270 ft.lbs. is far less than most trucks

>>16409293
An Si also has 4 maybe 5 torks

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>>16403701

Canuckistan here.

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c-can I join?

>>16403701
do you have autism or what

i love hothatches

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>>16403701
Yo

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One of us!

>>16403949
They munch break pads like no other car and handle alright in dry conditions, but handle like shit in wet conditions and are terrible in snow.

Anxiously awaiting delivery of my '17 FoST Estate.

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>>16411626
I've got a 2005 NA and I'm so jelly of the euro front end. Such simple changes to the lines make it look so much better.

>>16411641
>Terrible in snow and wet

That is a function of the tires not the car

I'm looking at a 2014 St right now with 57k on it for $16,500. Good deal?

>>16411651
I'm not American but 57k miles on a 3 year old car seems like a fuckton and Fords generally depreciate pretty hard. I've seen brand new ones for that price in Germany.

>>16411651
depends if it has recaros

i can almost guarantee everyone with an ST in this thread attends community college & vapes.

>>16412038
we've been over this, that's only the focus ST's

>>16412038
I'm air force tho

There's like a dozen ST's on this base alone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su5Fd_w5HXM

>2017
>no abs

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Sometimes i wish i bought an RS instead.

>>16412123
I know that feel. I bought mine and like 2 weeks later the RS was officially announced.

Granted, it still took like 2 years to come out, but I really want an RS.

>>16412085
What wheels are they Senpai? They look real nice

>>16412038
Focus ST Estate/Wagon owner here.
I work construction but I do vape.

>>16412164
not him but they look like sparco assetto garas

>>16412133
I was considering buying one but I couldn't justify the massive increase in price. Im happy with my FoST, but I still can't help but wonder what it would be like with the RS.

>>16412174
This anon is correct, Sparco Assetto Gara wheels.

>>16412182
Honestly I'm not unhappy with the ST, and I don't even know that I could have afforded the RS anyways, but I still drool about it.

>>16412182
Unless you're gonna take it on the track the difference in performance really isn't worth the huge difference in price. Plus the ST is much more comfortable as a daily driver.

>>16412164
Rubber ones.

>>16412189
by all accounts the RS is awful on the track though

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Christmas break ends tomorrow, but I'm just excited to pick up my car at the airport.

>>16412198
Then I really don't see the point in owning one unless you really let the >FWD meme get into your head

>>16412197
Those would be the tires, friend.

>>16412211
a <$5k miata would be better on track and not break the bank tbqh

Saw an RS at the dealer yesterday, marked up $7,000 over Msrp. Are people actually buying these? I have never seen one on the street, and they refused to let me even test drive it.

>>16412221
At that price I don't see why you would. Just get a fucking mustang

>>16412221
>over msrp
dog bless ameriga

>>16412221
I've seen a bunch on the street. Around here people were paying 1-2k above msrp

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I like mine, they're pretty peppy machines for the price. I can hoon around at a solid 33 kbps on mine

>>16412188
There's not shame in that. It's normal to want for more horses.

>>16412221
>they refused to let me even test drive it.
At the dealer i work at only 2 people are even allowed to drive it

The first one we sold went for 80k canadian

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>>16412277
>80k
What the fuck

>>16412277
>80k maplebuks for a Focus

Holy shit I knew your money was worthless but damn

>>16412283
>>16412285
fml right?

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>>16412198

Its not though, but some people have managed to get into limp mode.

>>16412221

I got mine for 500 under MSRP, but I had to go out of state for it.

The RS is really a fantastic back road burner. Does decent on the occasional track day, and has enough comforts for me as my DD. I'm very pleased with mine. If I do decide to sell it I won't lose very much, the RS tax is insane right now.

>>16411643
What does yours look like?

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>>16403701
RS MK2 reporting in

>>16412359
Are you in NorCal?

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Hi guys

>>16412580

Nah, WA

>>16403723
I used to have one of those. Fun car.

>>16413032
meant for
>>16412964

>>16412038
Software Engineer with a Graduate Degree.
Don't vape.

Just wanted a cheap, fun car that I could daily as well.

>>16412038
club level car salesman in my 30's
don't vape

got one because it's a fun daily. use my 4runner for road trips and hauling

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FiST bois

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>>16403701
Grey leader standing by

>>16419212
Lock sex-foils in att(rape)ack position