So... What's Lincoln been up too?

>>16398390
Taking it easy six feet under.

Who cares?

I don't get the point of Lincoln as a brand these days.

All the unreliable crap of regular fords and not reasonably priced either

Oh and those stupid pretentious Matthew McConaughey ads

Being tier 2 (maybe even tier 3) "luxury" cars

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>>16398390
apparently making a range rover model X hybrid of some sort

>>16398390
What the fuck
Is that a reskinned XC90?

>>16398474

Based on the scale of those full-size captain's chairs...that vehicle is fucking MASSIVE.

And hideous.

>>16398390
>concept
>ICE

trash

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>>16398495
Production model revealed in a few weeks, sales begin next year

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>>16398523

>tablets in the headrests

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

THIS ISN'T 2003.

>>16398415
Not really. They're celebrating record sales thanks to the Chinese.

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>>16398580
>Chinese sales

They literally designed the Continental for the Chinese market, and the Chinese model is stripped down in features

Unpopular opinion but.. I think it'd be best if Ford just pulled the plug Lincoln for good. Aside from poor sale numbers, I think that a premium Ford car (like an Explorer, Expedition Platinum, Fusion Vignale as an example) look more upscale than their Lincoln twins. Ford could be good on its own being that diverse brand selling low trim cars to premium cars. Sort of like GMC, their arch nemesis.

>>16398682
>Sales up double digits each year
>2 new models coming out
>Lincoln introducing it's own non Ford platforms
The Continental is outselling the 5 series and the A6

They have no reason to pull the plug

>>16398390
Stealing designs just like ferd

>>16398682

It's not about looks, it's about branding. Hideous cars sell in droves if they're branded properly - just look at Cadillacs.

People who buy Caddys or Lincolns aren't buying them for the looks, they're buying them because it says "I can afford higher monthly financing than my blue-collar neighbour".

That's important to a lot of people, especially if they weren't born into a family with money. You need to know they've married a man with a 6-figure salary. Aside from a shitty attitude and bleach-blonde hair, a Cadillac/Lincoln is the best way to get that message out there.

>>16398484
>needs a small staircase to get in

Sounds right

>>16398506
>cool concept tossed out for Expedition with a different grille and leather seats
>sticker price won't be under 80k

>>16398799
I know but my point was if Ford can make their cars in """"top notch"""" luxury, there is really no reason for them to keep making cars under the Lincoln name. But now reading your post and >>16398718, i might have a little hope for the brand. my reasoning for killing off the company was a bit vague, should of double checked it.

>>16398826
90% of the Continental concept was unchanged, I imagine the production navigation will be the same

>>16398474
If I was rich I'd love this.

>>16398938

Rich people don't drive domestic """""LUXURY""""" vehicles. Nigger-rich people do.

People with actual money drive shit like Bentleys. Any pleb fuck can afford to finance an Escalade with a few years of careful saving.

Few fucks can afford a Rolls Royce, and they're not financing it either.

>>16399001

I can safely tell you that there are a lot of actually really rich Chinese who buy these monstrosities. The Chinese literally buy cars by the pound - there's a reason why the new Lincoln Navigator is basically the Canyonero made into reality.

The Lambos and Ferrari's are for the children and man-children - women and men are supposed to buy huge as fuck SUV's with the highest price tag they can stomach.

>>16399001
>poorfags this delusional

>>16398390
>massive grill
>LED accented foglights
>aggressively styled, narrow xenons with LED accents
>similarly narrow tail lights
>probably dual exhaust

I know it's a decent look but, why does it seem like every car since late '15 is trying so hard to ape this same look? All the major manufacturers are doing it from Kia to Chevy to Lexus to Benz etc...

>>16399081
just fyi there was a massive fuck up in the production of the Lincoln Continentals and a good majority of them had to have new engines swapped into them before they even had one mile on the odometer.

never buy ford or lincoln.

>>16399092
It was new headlights, not engines
Plus the issue is gone, most of them were in transit and were fixed before they were sold

imagine if Ferd tried to produce a domestic sports sedan in the Linconln trim.

Chebby did it with the SS, before they cancelled it. Cadillac did it with the V-Sport models. Why can't Ferd into sports sedans?

The ecoboost Fusion was a nice try but it felt too much like a parts bin car, another Focust ST. All we're going to get is shit Lincoln barges designed for tasteless chinks.

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>>16399371
The 2017 Lincoln MKZ can be pretty sporty with a V6 putting out 400 HP. They could take that just a bit farther and make a really neat car out of it.

>>16398474
3 stairs is pretty excessive. Even if its huge its not riding 6 feet off the ground.

>>16399371
Lincoln doesnt do it because it doesn't want to be a performance brand

Being the official cars of grandpas who want to buy American and ghetto families who want to appear rich because they bought a Lincoln from the local "Buy Here Pay Here" lot.

Rich people in my area usually drive European or Asian cars. You're even more likely to see them driving a Caddy or higher trim Chrysler than a Lincoln.

>>16398682
That's exactly why they ended up killing Mercury. Their cars were no different than a higher trim level Ford.

>>16401026
Except that was the point of mercury, to compete with Buick

>>16398439

You could basically say this about any luxury brand.

I'm starting to feel like there are problems looming for the luxury segment after baby boomers buy their last cars.

>>16402627
So what if the boomers die?

There will be a new generation of old people to take their place

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I'm pissed the backseat of the Continental didn't come out like the concept.

Then again the airport is only a 20 minute drive

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>>16398390
>won't put suicide doors on the continental
>will put five foot long gullwings on their fucking SUV

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Lincolns going to add 2 new vehicles by the end of the decade

Lincoln aviator (Ford explorer based) is one

What's the other? A Lincoln mustang?

>>16402789
that sucks hard.

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Lincoln has good interiors, sucks that you can spot what's been taken from the Ford parts bin

>>16398390
drugs?

>>16398919
The Continental is a Ford Taurus

>>16402931
And? The piping and tubes underneath the floorboard are the same

people who aren't autistic don't car about the platform

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>>16402828
Probably a new Mark LT, based on the new aluminum f150.

probably wont be sold in the US like the previous gen though.

>>16402644
Gen x has fuck all money compares to boomers

>>16402983
>New LT
>>Not sold in America

Considering lincolns are only sold in America, Canada the middle East and South Korea, that doesn't seem practical


Also the mark LT was a sales figure horror story

>>16403008

sold pretty well in mexico

>>16399001
>Few fucks can afford a Rolls Royce, and they're not financing it either.

everyone with a brain leases a rolls. the only ones who buy them are rappers who forget taxes exist

>>16403163

Didn't they sell them there until like a few years ago?

>>16398390
What is this did Fords turn the Flex into a Linc?

>>16403195
yep

people stopped buying crew cab trucks entirely because cartel scum would steal them immediately

>>16403230
That happened already with the FUgly MKT, I have no idea what they were thinking when they designed it

honestly i love lincolns redesign. the new continental and mkz are dope.

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>>16398565
>typical millennial impressed by monitors and """"connectivity""""" rather than how good the actual car is

>>16402935
So that means the navigator will never be anything more than a rebadged Navigator.

>>16403334
The navigator will be a Lincoln built around the expedition platform

>>16403467
It always has been

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Idk what I like less, the new grill or the moustache grill

>>16402909
You mean all of it?

Somehow worse than Acura

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Who buys these?

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>>16403558
Old people and teenagers

I had to go to my old high school for alumni day (we tell the underclassmen about college yadda yadda) and I saw alot of lincolns in the parking lot, even a facelifted MKZ.


Whenever I see a Lincoln it is either driven by someone extremely old or someone extremely young

>>16403618
Old people I would have guessed, but young people floors me. I wonder what is causing young people to end up with them.

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>>16403642
I guess its some form of nostalgia

>>16403659

This better be fucking fake.

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>>16403659
Is this real?

>>16403659
That pic kinda rustles my jimmies

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>>16403659
WHAT THE FUCK

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>>16403558

CHINA, BY THE MILLIONS

>>16403672
>>16403677
Of course it's real.

https://twitter.com/mountings/status/813087595081109504

>>16403785

I hope people like him will die in a multitude of cancer diseases.

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>>16403785

>>16403785
Of course he is a tesla faggit

>>16403659
The kid looks like he gobbles cock for a dollar anyways

>>16403707
And still a second place to Buick in China

>>16403618
>tfw your Nana's MKZ hybrid is from McDavid
Not gonna lie the hybrid makes a good a to b car

>>16403558
>Who buys these?
The best market by far for Lincolns is China. It's also why parts sourcing, production, and assembly was planned to move to China in the near future. That would drastically lower the cost of Lincolns for that brand's main market - China.

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>>16398523
>those interiors

Holy fuck are they serious? I feel nauseous just looking at them.

>>16398390
>>16398523
>that design
>those interiors

Sorry, how much was this thing again?

Actually like the new lincolns. Saw a few at a car show and thought they where well designed. I wouldnt buy one because I am young and prefer a sports car but can see why old people would like them

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>>16405613
Was? Now it isn't anymore? That because of Trump?

>>16405726
It would be because cunts buy imports

Ban/tarrif imports and local production will go up

>>16403642
Excellent dealer incentives and Ford financial having a lot of free capital due to gouging Chinese buyers, therefore being far more willing than other luxury brands to take risks financing younger buyers on entry level MKZs so that they'll become devoted to the brand and end up buying Navigators once they're older.

>>16405726
It might be because they want to keep saying it's "Made in America" Chinese people love foreign products.

>>16398523
no fucking way
we 80s now

>>16405613
>It's also why parts sourcing, production, and assembly was planned to move to China in the near future.

Production of US market Lincolns was never going to be moved to China. Chinese assembly was planned for, and still is planned for vehicles that will be sold in China. Lower labor costs and taxes make it more cost effective for firms to build vehicles in China for the Chinese market than importing them. Lincoln moves enough cars profitably in the US for it to be unnecessary for Ford to import vehicles from China. They already have a plant in Mexico they use for lower priced units too. Hybrid Continentals are planned to be build in China in the future as are the new explorer based crossovers, but these will be vehicles sold in Asia. The US market Continentals will continue to be built in the US to avoid getting hit with import tariffs.

>>16398390
Proving americans lost their ability to build good cars back in the 70ies

>>16405651
Starts in the mid 60s

>>16398523
Why are the seats so close to the floor
Must feel super cramped

>>16399760
i love the look of this car
really reminds me of the old MKZ and Milan

>>16403707
>>16404092
why does China like big American luxury cars?

>>16399034

that shit looks so fake

The interior of the continental isn't terrible, still far from the lap of luxury though.

>>16398523
wtf were they thinking of with that color, looks like some weird 1980s kitchen vinyl floor or something fuckin a

>>16398523
Is this some "retro" shit? Cars actually from the 80's looks better. You can't look 2017 outside and 1987 inside. That simply doesn't work.

>>16406346
Compared to European luxury cars, they don't. It's just that there's so fucking many of them. The Chinese are 1,2 billion people, even if only the top 10% can afford luxury cars that's still 120 million people buying them.

>>16406346
Lots of Chinese like the "made in America" feel, that's why Buick sales so well, and that's why lincoln is importing the Continental

>>16406669
>American cars
>made in America
a hyundai is more American made than any gm or ford car

>>16406717
The Chinese like it

>>16399001

>admitting you're poor as fuck on an anonymous board

>>16402828

Dat Lincolnstang fuck....

>>16402983

Would be into this as well. Too bad they wont make it a singlecab or superduty.

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>>16406379

What about when you go through a car wash?

Lincoln is in a weird place right now with their lineup. They have three (3) crossovers: MKC, MKX, and MKT. Why? Who knows. I believe the MKT will be phased out for a new Aviator. Then they have the Navigator (actually competes with the Escalade) and MKZ and Continental, but I don't see who those sedans are supposed to compete with. (That being said, I love the Continental- if you haven't seen it in person, it's massive and comfortable.) Obviously they're more upscale than Fords, but they're a few steps from say BMW/Audi/Lexus. I guess I'd like to see Lincoln sort itself out (and phase out that awful MK naming convention) and find its identity.

>>16407140
>japanese made antenna: 1
>mexican body panel: 0
>car wash machine: 9000+

>>16398390
replacing the bumpers of fords and charging more for them

>>16407330
MKZ is a 3 series competitor that is almost the size of a 5 series
Continental is a 5 series competitor that is almost the size of a 7

Lincoln is doing their thing half a size bigger

>>16403485
I liked the mustache grill, it was something unique in an age where car styling is rather bland or edgy/squiggly

>>16407140
Story?

>>16398799
The Cadillacs are beautiful, fuck you.

>>16399371
They did with the Lincoln LS and it was actually quite good. It was like a cheaper American 5 series alternative for a while.

Ford is apparently messing around with developing two new models off the Mustang S550 platform and I"m really hoping they're going to be Lincolns. A luxury coupe and performance sedan from Lincoln would be awesome. I'd love to see that 400hp tt v6 in a rear wheel drive application.

>>16402983
Correct me if i'm wrong.. But isnt this just a Ford "Lobo Platinum" just rebadged as a Lincoln in Mexico? I looked on some sites and saw no difference between the two, just different front facias. Was there something exclusive to the Mark LT that the F150/Lobo didnt have?

>>16399371

no real reason to, they already have the mustang which sells great and the STs are selling pretty well too. also there isnt a huge sport sedan market, chevy SS sedans are rare and so are cadillac Vs. the only sport sedan that sells well is the charger and thats only thanks to niggers

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>>16398799
>Hideous cars sell in droves if they're branded properly - just look at Cadillacs.

thank you for bringing reason to /o/

>>16409004

Cadillacs haven't looked this bad since the 80s

>>16403659
>>16403785
This person has to be joking. There's no way someone could act like that after getting a pretty nice car.


>>16406334
Been thinking about one with a V6, but will probably go for the Fusion Sport because it's cheaper.

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>>16403785
What a douche

>>16398799
Does anyone actually think that Lincoln=money though? They look to me like cheap cars with extra chrome to sell to poor people who like shiny things but can't afford an actual luxury car.

>>16399001
>Rich people don't drive domestic """""LUXURY""""" vehicles. Nigger-rich people do. People with actual money drive shit like Bentleys. Any pleb fuck can afford to finance an Escalade with a few years of careful saving.

Rich people drive whatever the fuck they want. My parents are top 2% (not super rich) but my dad drives a fucking Hyundai Accent. Your idea of rich seems to be based on the posts of exorbitantly wealthy instagram whores and not at all based in reality.

>Few fucks can afford a Rolls Royce, and they're not financing it either.

Oh yes they are, smart wealthy people barely buy anything with cash and work the credit system hard to their advantage. If you buy a bunch of expensive things on credit with low interest rates and invest all the cash that you didn't spend up front, you'll come out way ahead compared to buying everything with cash.

>>16411930
Hey, someone finally understands! A lot of people with money won't buy something just for the prestige factor. They'll buy something because they personally like it, or because they would rather spend their money elsewhere, or even save it just because they like the stability and ease of mind that excess money brings. Only people without money (or total jerks) think buying things will make them look like better people.

>>16398390
out of my 20 years of life i don't think i have ever seen a single Lincoln in the flesh in my entire life...who the fuck drives Lincolns

>>16413092
Are you in Europe or something? There are fucking Town Cars and Navigators all over the fucking place. I even see MKZs regularly.

>>16413092
no Lincoln limo?

>>16413108
I live in California, maybe Lincolns are just forgettable, who knows. But seriously i cant recall a time where i have seen one.

>>16413119
Where? I'm in LA and see them all the damn time.

>>16413130
SF bay area

>>16405807
also the Americans wont find the Chinese market engine option.

>>16406105
dick status: muh

>>16413092
I live in North NJ and I see MKZs everyday

Some kid at my HS had an MKS, I see the occasional navigator now and then

>>16405898
the real problem is that landbarges don't sell at all since suvs became popular.

>>16413133
no wonder, people in SF think their Kia Sportage with "chrome" grille and wheels is luxury

>>16399001
I know rich people in West

Lots of fools driving Ferarri, Bentley etc

More of them driving Acura/Honda/Toyota/Infiniti

>>16398390
Being a fourth rate brand

>>16414685
>being this much of a delusional japshitter

Lmao

>be lincoln
>build the brand new lincoln boat
>get the audi q7's front
>get the ranger rover's back and stick them together
>add 3 desginated stairs, since international regulations dindt want me to add a 3 meter ramp
>make half of the car literally a fucking door, so americans can fit in perfectly
>add tables inside
>make the interior look like a 90's plane, so it gives them a friendly reminder of 9/11
>being a stancefag i lower it, ignoring the fact that the wheels are literally as thin as my babydick.

I can't quite understand the hate for Lincoln, they seem like decent cars. Can anyone explain to me what about them is so bad?

>>16398390
I can't wait for people to try and fit snowblowers in there at my work.

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Does lincolon make any powerful sedans like the ctsv?

>>16418324
They are, they don't have read or vee aytes, that's why people here hate them

>>16419804
Rwd*

>>16418360
What is this, a Cadillac for ants?

>>16418360
is your file size small enough?

>>16398910
Should have double checked your grammar too. But I admire you being one of the few people on this site that can have a decent reaction to decent.

I agree with you on your previous point though. I think Expeditions and Explorers, especially those """Signature Models"""" look much more upscale than the navigator. This was even more obvious for Mercury, and we know how that turned out.

>>16419804
>>16419820
Oh, so it's mostly an /o/ thing.