God Tier Engines

>>16351754

the Hyundai Beta II is just as capable as this motor and it's far older

but you won't talk about that because the korean reliability meme still hangs on

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>>16351754
I nominate MZR because its the only one I own

>>16351754

in before nissan scum guy gets butthurt and trashes your thread

>>16351758
Oh I never had doubts about those engines, my mom had a kia optima 2.4 and it was reliable as fuck if you maintained it and changed wear items like timing belts, she's got the Sonata 3.3 Lambda now which is a beast too after getting her old one totaled.

>>16351754

k24a4 is like one of the most anemic motors in the k series family, but ok anon

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>>16351754
>peasant tier k-series
kek

>>16351827
>>16351839

I know the K24A4 isn't the most representative of the K series, but is was really good in the inexpensive hondas it came in, it's only 10 hp less than a hyundai 2.7 V6 and it's more efficient.

I'll just go with the obvious, 6bt 5.9L cummins and the 7.3l powerstroke

>>16351865
Noice, pre emissions where you gotta suffocate it with a dpf and scr.

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>when op name drops your engine after writing about a honda
and it's not even my favorite thing about my Z

>>16351754
>VQ35DE
>god tier
At drinking oil and being an inefficient piece of shit maybe

I nominate the 3S-GE BEAMS, suck it mazdafags

>>16351754
speaking of Honda engines, what's the consensus on f20/f22? Thinking about swapping that into my shitbox 86 later when i'm not a benchracing poorfag

>>16351956
It's a 4 banger with forged internals at stock, 240hp, and built for RWD, looks good at least on paper.

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>>16351754
>Honda
>Crazy torque

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I nominate the Volvo RN engines
>strong
>fuel efficient
>that 5 cyl growl
>torquey

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>>16351963
At least on the K24A4 I'm drivin, way better than the hyundai 4 bangers I've driven, must be the weird ass intake runners that are super long.

>>16351982
meme

>>16351984
So what kind of torque is it throwing down besides the 'crazy' scale?

>>16351997
Okay it's not crazy, just trying to big it up. it's decent though.

>>16351984
138lb of pure torque haha

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>>16352032
The purest.

>>16352045
>auto

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>>16352045
iktf

>tfw 144lb/ft of torque

Feels good man, gives an excuse to rev the piss out of it

>>16352032
>>16352003
>>16351984
>>16351754
138 whole torques is not alot of torques, anon. That's one of the easiest things to get from an engine, is torque. How big is that engine you've been talking up this entire time anyway?

>>16352069
2354cc

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>>16352060
>auto

>>16352053
I'm rolling with what falls into my possession.

>>16352072
That's kinda shitty how it's only 2.35L, the 3.3L Hyundai my mom has is 3342cc

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>>16352079
It's not auto tho

The autos have the PRND in the cluster

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>>16351927
I've driven the beams engine in another sw20, not all that though it would probably be amazing in a stupid light car.

I nominate the 3rd gen 3SGTE

>>16352096
that's literally cropped from the auto button on the wheel. I was being pedantic.

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>>16351754
B18C

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>>16352107
srry mate, I'm fucking retarded

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>massively polluting compared to its measly 180bhp
>283lbs ft of muh torks
>GODLIKE sound
>fuel pumps break and cost more than the car to fix
>cams made of butter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ztidX2zDv8

Can any engine match the Audi 2.5 V6 diesel?

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>>16352072
>2.3L
>138lb/ft

>>16351839
Is that an itr?

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Because I like having "TURBO 3000" stamped onto my engine.

the toyota UZ series

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>>16352116
get outta here with that Honda garbage

>>16352214
>muh 1200hp meme machine

>>16351754
>Doesn't post a k20a

As far as stock Honda engines go, I'd take the K20z1 over anything else.

>>16352242
>muh revs
>muh veetekk

>>16351754
4g63 or go home

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Muh k24a2

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>>16352307
Looks cramped in there but nice car nonetheless.

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>>16352307
>>16352348
My K24Z7
Approx 300whp/265wtq

>>16351758
I have a Spectra5 with a Beta engine. 140k miles and zero issues. First timing belt change at 130k (wasn't my fault) too.

>>16352364
>265wtq in that little ass car
Nice.

>>16352266
Good engine.

>>16352364
Nice, which stage kit is that? Also what clutch do you use?

Aiming for 300 whp myself but going all motor. I have 90% of the parts on hand and am hoping to pull the motor by March

>>16352348
RBC manifold rubs against the hood stand thing a little bit, but otherwise the only difference in dimensions between the k24a2 and the k20z3 is the deck height

>>16352395
CT-E supercharger with Vittuned aftercooler, 3.15" pulley, 1000cc injectors, Exedy stage 2 clutch

It's going to be hard to hit 300whp with all motor. What compression are you running? RBC intake manifold? Pistons? Tell me more please I'm genuinely interested

>>16352091
It's nice just big and not the best power to liter ratio.

Suzuki

J20A

I-4

>>16352158
Why so low torque :(

TOY
O
TA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJDqEZygi1Q

>>16352557
>500 hp/lbs-ft N/A
>450 lb engine
Hurr muh power per liter

>>16352567

I've got a J18A, it's alright. Not much top end power but a lot of torque and a decent sound. Pretty bulletproof so far.

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No tofu engine? wtf /o/?

>>16352611
Is there anything the 4A does that the 3S doesnt do better?

>>16352599
I like the engine, it's just huge for the power it's making.

>>16352618
Make noise

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>>16352509
12.5:1 on a k24a2 block.
modified k20a2 oil pump
pistons and rods are the last thing I'm deciding on. May be boring it out to 88mm, still have to do some research on that. Once I pull the trigger on those (next week or two), I'll be ready to go.
k20z3 underdrive
k20z3 oil cooler
k20z3 cylinder head
probably have it ported along with the rbc manifold when the block goes in to be bored.
drag cartel 3.2's (was looking for more of a "road race" cam rather than something for the strip - milder lift specs on the intake side compared to the 4's and 4.5's)
supertech 92 lb dual spring valve train
valves are skunk2, but stock spec
rdx injectors, I think the stock fuel pump will be fine

Also currently running things like hondata img, hybrid racing cold air intake, s2 alpha series header and 3 inch exhaust. And exedy stage 1 clutch with the hf02 flywheel


So about 7 grand in and I should be able to make very close to 300 whp with a tail wind in my honda civic fucking kill me kek. Dyno numbers are pretty arbitrary, but I have seen people hitting 290's on 3.2's with the k24a2 head and builds less complete than mine. If I could put down anywhere between 60-80whp of gains I would be pretty happy.

It's been a really fun project though and I've learned an assload about cars in the process. If you're in the midwest, maybe someday we can run em. 9th gen s/c vs. 8th gen frankenstein would be a pretty sick matchup

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13B
>basically a 2 stroke engine
>(dont) revs 9000
>wankel
>sounds like the devil himself
>1300cc beats a 7200cc

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>>16352739

>>16351768
It is not an engine code, it only means it is a Mazda engine

>>16352704
Seriously awesome car man! I really admire people that do NA builds, It takes a lot more effort. Your car looks sick too.

>>16352266
>>16352385
my fav 4 banger

>>16352171
>filename
>is a turbo vg30et
You might want to edit that m8

>>16351956

>Be prepared to spend a minimum of 3k

>>16351956
do kswap instead. better engine and cheaper.

>>16351754
VQ35HR is a good engine. DE is a Renault POS. Neither of them are god tier though.

>>16353316
>k swap
>for a rwd car
>cheaper

>>16352045
Maintenance is required

>>16352557
HP/L is such a fucking meme.

>>16351754
L76 good mpg for a v8 and still is just as much fun as any other v8.

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Ldt-465-1c. Not built for power, but rather for insane operating conditions. Will run on any fuel you have. Gasoline, motor oil, hydraulic fluid, veggie, diesel, jet fuel, lp, kerosene, and a bunch of other shit. It also carries a 22:1 compression ratio and has a small turbo (only in boost, damn thing weighs 47 lbs). It will run clean at elevations of up to 18k feet with no measurable power loss. Has 3 sets of fuel water separation filters, 2 sets of oil filters, 6 poppit injectors that never require tuning, and can be found from 130 hp in the ldt series, to 410 hp in the lds series.

>>16354822
What was it used in?

>>16352557
>LS7
>72.1 HP/L
>K24A4
>66.7 HP/L
What did he mean by this?

>>16354843
Military put them in the deuce and a half and the 5 ton truck. It's built by White tractor company originally but the military cranked up the compression. Down side with the pre-1c was the tendency to blow headgaskets. I own 3 m35a2's and a variety of 5 tons that work on our farm. Dirt fucking cheap.

>>16351758

Nobody does. Everyone just knows that the shitty Lambda engine is made of glass, cheap glass.

FA20DIT

>>16354859
>B235R
>134.78 HP/L
What did my car mean by this?

17.62 HP/L
.075 HP/lbs
Look mom, I can do statistics too!

>>16351754
>160hp
>healthy
>on a 2.4 VTEC
This should be making at least 200 even if it revs like a murrican.

>>16355217
It means you fell for the tarbo meme.

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Can't go wrong with old faithful

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>>16351754
Honda GY6 engine.
Cheap
Reliable
Upgradeable
used everywhere
fast for what it is

>>16351982
own one, they are fun

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M57
inline 6 diesel with plenty of torque and plenty of potential (can handle up to 400hp/1000nm on stock internals)
good on gas (about 42 mpg highways)
very reliable - my car is nearing 310k miles, seen an m57 powered e46 hit 910.000 km (565k miles)

>>16355434
The 13 civic si K24 does

>>16356301
>13 civic
The K24A4 is an old pos but it was made in 2003 was a 138hp or less engine was the norm, even modern shitbox corollas only make 140hp.

vg30/33 is god tier. if your engine can't pull 300k without pulling the valve covers then you should leave.

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>>16351956
It's on sale... monthly payments...

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Alright faggots who did this?

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>>16352266
>>16352385
>>16353004
>4g63
ma boz

Is there any tuning potential in the VQ35DE short of forced induction?

Looking at getting an 03-05 G35 coupe next year since I'm an Infiniti lube monkey and aside from everyone there knowing how to take the entire car apart as well as access to every diagnostic tool I'd ever want, anything I learn to do on it immediately translates to knowledge usable on the job. I heard the GTR is based on the same chassis, could I put GTR parts on it if I wanted?

>>16356316
That's nothing i'll pay my mechanic for that, I still see beat up old J30s rolling around.

>>16351754
VQ35DE a shit.
It pisses oil from the filter housing, cooling lines and connectors, valve covers and very commonly the oil pans.
Even though I love the 350Z, that engine is balls.
K series is bretty gud though.

>>16351927
This guy knows. BEAMS is pretty god-tier.

My votes would go to the 3S-GTE or the 2.5 KL-ZE V6.
Those or a heavily modified (Im talking 2.0 stroker turbo) 2ZZ-GE.

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>>16352739
>sounds like the devil himself

Sure, if the devil was farting through a kazoo

>>16352126
Audi's very own AAN or diesel inline 5 are better because of sound alone.

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>>16352621
>huge for the power it's making

Fuck you talking about, junior? One of the main reasons these are swapped into everything is they have a small footprint for a NA engine of its power.

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>>16356980
I hate it when people use these fucking images comparing a stripped down ls next to a fully accessorized engine. The LS engine is by no means small.

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>basically a 2 stroke engine
>sounds like the devil himself
>It revs, and pisses off your neighbors

>>16354759
yes.. wtf difference does it's orientation make?
buy a baffle.

>>16351758

t. choi seung-do

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>>16357322
no ohc makes them way smaller than dohc v8
that mazda has intake and exhaust on it and so does the LS. mada just has serpentine drive

>git gud.

>>16357371
>>>/v/

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pic related has the Honda K24 in it, it's about the most gutless shitbox I've ever had the misfortune of driving, here at 5400' altitude where I live it's borderline dangerous how slow it is. it also burns 2-3 quarts of oil between changes and the transmission is straight up retarded. combine that with the Little Tykes-quality interior and assortment of electrical issues I've had, I'd rate this shitbox a solid 3/10. Honda confirmed for overrated

>>16357498
>Big ass crossover that desperately needs a V6
That's just a poor engine choice by Honda, also check your pcv valve and blowby form the oil cap.

>>16357498
>he lives in Colorado and didn't get a turbo
Your own damn fault

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>>16356357
here's mine

>>16351754
>>timing chain when that shit wasn't common on a shitbox 4cyl
wew is that supposed to be a good thing? fuck timing chains in the arse.

>>16351984
>way better than the hyundai 4 bangers I've driven
wow

>>16358407
It's true, no fucking torque on those things, we even test drove a 2009 4cyl Sonata and it was so sluggish, had to buy a V6 so it doesn't get run over out here.

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Gonna have to nominate the Vortec 4.3. That thing was unkillable for me.

ITT: People drive their cousin's shitbox and feel impressed about having more power than their 100hp shitbox

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thenks ferd

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toyota 20R

High nickel blocks, forged crank and rods, double row timing chain, shaft mount rockers. more reliable than a 22R.

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RB20DET
>easy 350-400hp with bolt-on mods on stock internals
>plenty of aftermarket parts
>can be bashed against the 7600rpm rev limiter all day
>hydraulic lifters good up to 8500rpm
>good for hektik skidz
>sounds great

>>16352739
F

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Audi NF
>stronk as fuck
>stock oil squirters
>dirt fucking cheap
>20 valve head bolts straight on, as do 20V turbo parts
>~350hp on stock internals with turbo setup mentioned above, 600 easily achievable with forged pistons/rods, can go over 1000 fully built
>godlike Group B sound

>>16357343
What tranny you gonna hook up to a k series motor for a rwd application?

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M62B44
>8 Cylinders
>4.4 Liters
>DOHC 32 Valves
>Forged rods, alusil bore, aluminum pistons, forged crank
>Stock motors can handle 14-15 PSI on pump gas
>capable of 600 HP/620 lb/ft on stock internals
>DAT sweet sweet nazi V8 sound
>shitload of torque everywhere
>Less than 400$ at a local junkyard
>Only maintenance issue is valve cover gaskets and assorted cooling system gaskets
>Double row timing chain so don't have to worry about guide failure
>NO VANOS so any aftermarket ECU will work

Why don't you have one?

>>16359929
That was a really high revving V8 back then, didn't it get engine of the year or some shit?

>>16359929
>alusil bore
Pass.

>>16359948
What would you rather? Iron?
Hypereutectic Aluminum is pretty magical stuff.
>Super strong yet super light
>Very low friction coefficent
>excellent bearing surface

There is no point in lining this bore unless you are going for stupid amounts of power ie. 800hp+

>>16359946
Yes, the 6600 redline is pretty cool and it pulls all the way there. The torque curve is just wonderful.
Yeah it won Ward's best engine in 96 and 97.

>>16359929
Forgot to add
>Fracture split forged con rods
Another reason this nazi V8 is amazing

>>16359560
korean cars are turds with wheels, it's to be expected

>>16360017
>>Fracture split forged con rods
welcome to 1992

>>16359984
Iron. I want to push 3-4 bar for decades without worrying about dainty little specialized coatings

>>16359704
The s2000 6 speed can be mated to a K24 with an adapter plate

>>16360030
Yeah, any transmission can be mated to a K24 with an adapter plate.

>skrollin thru thread
>no 1uz
>no 2jz
Gud bye

>>16357508
>big ass crossover
it's barely larger than a Focus

>>16357513
my other two are turbocharged, and I'm trading this for a 2.0L Escape eventually but I waited too long and the fucking shitpile broke again

>>16362534
Fuck your stupid foculus it's a pigfat piece of shit

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>>16362548
you seem upset

I don't think I've ever owned something that you autistic fags wouldn't consider to be pigfat and I'm pretty okay with that

>>16357322
>The LS engine is by no means small.

It's pretty damn small compared to a big block. The LS is only slightly bigger than that Mazda engine which is not excellent considering it's almost 3x the displacement. Technically the 4 cylinder is a big boat anchor.

>>16351754
>Starter motor is right under the intake manifold which needs to be removed to swap it
>also intake manifold on the front of the fucking engine.
I'll pass on the K series, VQ is a beast though.

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Mazda MZR 2.3L DISI Turbo (L3-VDT)

Hondas new 1.5T seems pretty based

Rated at 174 hp, 168 ft*lb at the crank
Independently shown to push out 177 hp (cvt)-190 hp(manual) and 190 ft*lb at the wheels

Turbo spools and peak torque from 1700 rpm

40+ mpg highway, 30+ city

Only time will tell it's reliability but it's a Honda

GM 455

Because it has the same mileage as a GM 400.

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ISUZU
S
U
Z
U

410k kms, mostly urban driving. Doesn’t even eat oil, or make black smoke, unlike vag diesels.

>>16365438
>Doesn’t even eat oil, or make black smoke, unlike vag diesels.
I'd still rather have a TDI that burns coal like my momma and smokes a shit ton.

ford 4.6 and gm 5.3
they last fucking forever if you even kinda take care of them

God tier engines
No mention of cosworth YB engine or 1.6 THP engine.

>>16365438
ISUZU BEST SUZU

>>16359929
The m60b40 is better then the m62 in terms of reliability and overall revs higher so is therefor a better motor

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AAN/ABY are better then everything posted above here for sure

>>16363911

The engine bay for the 1.5Ts makes me scream internally.

>>16363809

Its a rather common place to put starter motors.
Front mounted intake piping makes alot more sense for packaging and overall emissions.

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>>16365771
At the very least it makes the motor look so sexy, and it does burn really clean.

AMC I6 4.0L

>can be had for $300 with trans in the form of a wrecked jeep
>aftermarket as wide as the day is long
>unkillable
>relatively torquey
>Chrysler ECU can take it to 300hp on just a tune (Chrysler did it, ask them not me)
>can be stroked up to a theoretical limit of 5.0L
>good blocks have gone over 700hp
>Did I mention you can get the entire engine and transmission for $300 and then part out the truck they came in?

>>16351754
>161 lb/ft
>"crazy torque"

Compared to what, a scooter? Have you ever driven anything else than a fucking four banger?

>>16365812
>Max torque at 3200 rpm so you can cruise around with it
Shame they went to V6s.

>>16365817
Yeah I drove my moms' sonata V6 ever since I had a license (got a lot of shit for it on here) but the Accord does okay in moving a man around, slows down a good bit with the AC on so I ride without it.

>>16365818
3200 rpm is up there in the revs for that engine

t. XJ owner

>>16365718
But I posted the NF already...

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>>16365879
>>16365718
I love my AAN, it puts a smile on my face every time I turn the key. Really great engine, my favorite engine I have ever had the pleasure to drive even though its not the fastest (yet).

Once I pass emissions once more then I am done with emissions for good. Once that happens I will be cutting the cats out, bigger fuel pump, probably bigger injectors just to stay safe and a stage 1+ chip for 21-23 psi of boost which will be just about maxing out the k24. That is as far as I plan on taking the K24, should be around 280whp from what I have read.

Probably will go RS2 spec after that and shoot for a little less then 400whp but that is pretty far into the future still.

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Brrrrrr-rap-brap-brap

>>16352158
LS engines superior i npretty much every way

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Enough said.

>>16366521
>Polished intake runners
Muh fuckin cock.

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>>16351754
>Not posting the most indestructible shitbox motor ever
Seriously, I still see beat up B13 Sentras and Infiniti G20s driving around.

>>16352184
One of Toyota's finest. A very long lasting engine too.

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>>16352266
My niggas

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>>16366521
mein neger

>>16367930

SR20 heart transplants and parts are super cheap though, doesnt really make the motor itself bulletproof.

The real heroes are the GA16DEs, Is and KAs.

>>16367930
Can confirm.
My buddy ripped a hole in the oil pan of his nx2000 on a dirt road then drove it 30 miles back to his house with no oil pressure.

That was in 2007 and he's still driving it

>>16369288
lol fuck toyotes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cmlvL38OSM

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>>16372120
>Automatic Supra
>He still modded the fuck out of it

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>>16351754
Here you go

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>>16372246
>Intake
Woah.

LS1
S
1

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this thing is a lot of fun in my cc with a 6 speed, good flat torque curve

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A mean, green, oil spitting machine.

>>16373001
>Battery in it's own little compartment
Why don't more inexpensive cars do this?

>>16373027

DD's sound and smell so Godly.

>>16373036
It's that two stroke slap, plus they double the explosions so they make the same sound a flat out Cummins does at half the speed.

Beyond that, they are stupid reliable if you don't rush them. A nearly 70 year production run too... people talk about small block gms like they were a revolutionary engine, but there are still applications where I would take a 80 year old dd over any modern 4 stroke.

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3.7l Powertech V6

Replaced the Chrysler 3.9l

>>16373036
you shut your whore mouth

>>16359644
This gets my vote as well

>>16373088
>badmouthing a screaming jimmy
>picks the thirsty low hp v6 that nobody wanted

Learn to bait.

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I nominate the FSI for chugging oil, and making weird noises constantly :^) Get at me.

>>16351754
VQ37 is a better

>K24A4
Agree

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>>16373133
VQ37 is still out of reach for poor niggers like me but is superior to a VQ35 non HR.

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20B

>>16365524
This

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There's nothing quite like the beautiful stock supercharged LSJ to power your $5,000 shitboxes into 200+hp.

It's /o/'s duty to keep buying these cheap cars and destroying these engines. Don't let them die of natural causes! They need to blow in action.

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>>16351754
Piss off fgt

>>16362575
A small block v8 is smaller than a big block? Wow!

>>16373752
>supercharged
>only makes 200+hp

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>>16373131
That's not the R4 1.8 20 valve audi engine.

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>B16A

>Over 100 hp per liter
>8k redline
>1.74 rod stroke ratio
>excellent reliability and gas mileage
>near full race cam in VTEC

>>16365491
Yup my chevy work truck has 320k miles original engine, but 2nd 4l60 tranny.

>>16374729
And still slower than your grandmas camry

>>16372246
I like these, even though they like to blow turbos in the S4 and are a bit of a packaging nightmare in general.
Also that engine cover is just fucking cool.

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>>16375135
my what's what now?

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Ford 4.6L is by far better than half of the engines posted in this thread.

>made in 1991 till 2011, 20 years for essentially the same design
>decent fuel efficiency for a V8
>Bullet proof internals
>Millions sold that regularly make it beyond 200k under normal preventative maintence
>So many parts are avaliable that you can rebuild the whole damn engine in a autozone parking lot
>Decent 250hp when it comes to Crown Vics, 270hp for SUVs, and 300hp when it comes to S197 Mustangs
>Timing chain, no belt bullshit
>Water-pump is on the outside, not behind the timing cover

>>16377145
Fucking this, I'm only now knowing it had a timing chain, but 4.6 has always been a good way to get into a rear drive car.

>>16359612
got an 18r-g in my celica, but not quite in a complete state like in the pic mind you.

>>16374729

Easily the worst sounding production engine ever, the less exhaust, the worse it gets. Most burn more oil than gas.

>>16373131
>>16373001

Yo dawg heard you like carbon on your intake valves

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1500hp in 1973

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>Weak as fuck
>timing belt
I still nominate the ALH 1.9 TDI engine, it's a 500,000 mile motor.

>>16351754
>fuel eficinet

this meme needs to stop
everything is fuel eficient if you do long trips and are living in the midle of fucking nowhere.

more like
160hp and a fuck ton emisions for low power meaning high taxes
drinks oil like any honda because muh revs
25mpgin citys

a 1.4 tsi is smaller
faster when on boost
more eficient when in city of boost
lover taxes

>>16379388
>drinks oil like any honda
I've never had this problem but i only have like 90,000 miles because grandma car

>1.4 tsi is smaller and faster
I still like my N/A engine because it's simpler and you don't worry about the turbo failing, especially when buying on the used market because idiots starting them up and going full boost on a cold motor.

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>>16379408
yea thats true for the used market

funny thing is I have a Polo Gti 1.8 tsi gen3 DSG
and I tried to push it when cold once to se how the car would react.
basicly its software limited on power because the sensors are reading that the temps are low and its not safe.
The car felt like it has 100hp instead of the stock 200hp.
Also when you abruptly shut of the engine it will emit a buzzing sound for the next five or so minutes. Its the pumps working and cooling the turbo

>>16379454
That's a smart design, if I were to buy any turbo shitbox it would be a Volkswagen, other makers hopping on the turbo 4cyl bandwagon now often have problems even with low mileage but VW's been doing it for years.

>>16377145
4v's are my specialty

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>260 HP (In series 3 models)
>So reliable its a meme
>Huge aftermarket with many options to choose from
>Said aftermarket parts are laughably cheap because of competition
>Comes pre-supercharged so its easy to make more power
>Engine came in a fuck ton of cars so any replacement parts are easy and cheap to come by

Only real issue is the sound isn't amazing but you can make it sound decent by just throwing on some Borlas

>>16380849
>le pig improper firing order meme.jpeg

>>16380849
The sound issue is easily fixed with a good camshaft. These things actually sound amazing at idle with a cam

>>16380864
Still sounds like shit at WOT

>>16380870
Oh yeah, sound worse than a Honda. But at least by then the supercharger's kicking loud

>>16380874
260hp or whatever it is is still kinda shitty, especially in 2016 when a cheap used V6 350z can do that N/A while sounding better.

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What about the vq35hr?

>>16380893
I think you misspelled vq37

>>16380887
The 260 figure is irrelevant when you can be making alot more with hardly any money

Not to mention >>16377145 thinks a V8 making around the same amount is good, and without any easy way to add more power like the 3800 is already set up for

>>16380893
>rips shit up even at 200k
>Sounds better than most new V6s
My nig nog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3yvsMlqjx4

>>16380887
A few grand in mods will get you into the low 13s. Nobody buys these cars for performance and keeps them stock

>>16380904
Don't own a 370z, not a fan of the way the rear end looks
>>16380909
Yeah I love the way it sounds

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>>16381306
why not go all out
16v-149????????????

Detroit 24v-71

>24 cylinders
>12 Weiand 10-71 roots blowers
>mfw 3424hp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FXVZlM71NE

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the GM biggest block v8
637ci
only 10.4 liters

>>16357498
I have an 02 crv and an 07 accord coupe both with the ka24
The crv is the slowest piece of shit there is...
Where my accord pulls really hard.

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vq30 reporting

>>16351758
This is clearly an american problem.

Twin cam excels are absolute animals, impossible to kill even deliberately and surprisingly fast.

>>16381332
It'd make 4,500 if it used turbos

>>16359929
>Why don't you have one?
Because your $400 figure is complete bullshit and you know it

>>16381330
>>16381332
>>16381567
>>16373027

DD's aren't just engines, they are part of the family. Like, keep the rpms steady, run it hard, and give it oil and it will run on forever. We had a 6-71 generator that would run 2 week trips always on. Powerplant in the boat was a twin 12v71 that did the same. Those are god tier engines if I've heard of one.

24 hours of lemans has nothing on the 3 weeks of travel from the west coast to the east coast.

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2jz. straight six for life.

>>16384595
1JZ VVTi is a better engine

>>16352739
I vote for the 13B as well

>many iterations, both turbo and NA
>loves to be driven hard
>sounds like a race car with a mild port and loud exhaust, or like a space ship with a quiet exhaust
>can be tuned up to 700+horsepower out of an engine that you can carry yourself for fuck's safe
>sits behind the front axle, and low to the ground

What more could you want? My NA FC is faster than a toyslowbaru and handles better. I just bought an FD and I'm so stoked

>reliability issues
Nah you just suck at maintenance if you say that. I'd rather have a fresh engine every 160k km than a shitty boat anchor losing power like it's going out of style because no one wants to drop 7 grand on a rebuild

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>>16384625
>I'd rather have a fresh engine every 160k

>>16384630
Forgot to mention that I did the rebuild myself and it cost 1000 bucks.

My apex seals are smiling at me, imperial. Can you say the same?

>>16351982
S70 is what I drive. Love my old man shit box

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Old GEE AM 5.7
>8 cylinders as god intended
>Like cockroaches, these things will be around long after humans
>Basically built America

>>16384643
Rotary is still shit, emissions and fuel economy are horrible no matter what RPM it'll do.

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Obviously 2L Twincharged Drive-E Engine...until it becomes broken.

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k20 because you can fit it in this

>>16386853
>emissions and fuel economy are horrible
nobody gives a fuck about emissions other than califags and hippies

Which are you?

>milage
>being so poor you worry about gas mileage on your weekend car
If you can't afford for your second car to be a gas guzzling braap bucket you can't afford a second car

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>>16387578
>nobody gives a fuck about emissions other than califags and hippies
S-shut up, Anon.

>>16387553

fix it again tony

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>Nobody even knows or cares that the barra is dead outside of AU
>Capable of 400rwkw+ on just a tune and more boost

;_;

>>16351768
lolblownconrods

>>16387599
>Japanese engine
You wasted the moment
Fix
It
Again
Takahashi

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2ZZ-GE

>170-190hp stock depending on year and model
>Revs above 8k stock
>Still has usable low end
>MMC lined bores
>VVTLi
>Can bolt on a Rotrex supercharger for 300hp on stock internals
>Can sound great with the right exhaust
>Fits in MR2 Spyder with no chassis modifications

>>16387605

that looks like more than just a tune m8

unless all of that engineering cost meant they couldn't afford a filter for the turbo

which would be an australian thing to do

>>16388727
>MMC lined bores

This isn't a point to be bragging about

>>16388728
Lol facken auskak

But yeah I dunno why Aussie cars cop shit on here for being unreliable.

Not the poor cars fault most owners are brain dead.

I'd also like to mention the ls but it's already been posted.

>>16388733
It does make aftermarket piston installation difficult, but for a stock engine it's more than sufficient and allows you to beat the piss out of the engine without worrying about the block.

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>hyundais first in-house engine
>primarily owned by retards who dont understand basic maintenance like oil changes
>absolutely bulletproof
>based off an older mitsubishi/hyundai frankenstein engine which was based off a 4g63 so evo parts are compatible

>>16388789
>See pic
>motor looks familiar
>check vid
Holy shit, nigga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsflYVV3s0

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>>16388829
i dont wanna watch that one again it makes my soul implode

>>16388855
It's painful but that's a sweet ass engine for ricers like myself who like to bounce off the rev limiter for a few seconds.

>>16388891
2 be honest i've driven a car with this engine for about a year now and the power drop off at high rpm is so great i've never redlined once
you gotta understand it's a 1.5L n/a with no variable valve timing or anything

>>16373824
stage 3 gets it up to about 240 which isn't too bad

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>>16351754
Saab H engine.
Specifically the B234 model - shit is ridiculously strong and reliable and just loves to be beat on.

There's also the benefit of the Direct Ignition system and the Trionic engine management that used the spark plugs as fucking sensors, eliminating all knock and making it possible to run ion basically any combustible fuel ever.
You can throw fucking 80 RON into the tank, along with a bunch of E85 and the engine will not fucking knock.

>'Ion' comes from the fact that it uses ion current measured by the spark plugs between combustion events as a sensor for knock, misfire and synchronization detection. With the ion sensing system, the ion current stream developed due to combustion can be deduced by monitoring the secondary current of the ignition coil. Using the value and wave shape of the current, after the actual spark event, the quality of the actual combustion process is determined, thus allowing the engine control unit to optimize the timing of the spark for the best engine performance while keeping emissions low on a much wider range of rpms.

Fucking magical Swedes.

>>16352133
Kek

Saab fag here.

The B234R generated 252lb/ft from 2.3L.

>>16352704
>7K in.
Why not just fucking supercharge the thing and save literally half of that?

>>16387596
BUILD
THE
WALL

>>16389020
We definitely need a wall, or at least the minimum wage not be 10 fucking dollars an hour which makes people hire illegals anyway.

>>16389041
No, I meant wall off Socal.
The country would be better off without it.

>>16389051
If it secedes, I defiantly want a 50 ft wall around the state, and I'm moving to AZ or TX, taking my minority republican vote somewhere where it means something.

>>16389097
Go to Vermont, 2A paradise, but they need more red voters to keep it that way.

>>16388964
Bruh this is normal stuff now days. Even my 25 year old furnace uses ion sensing to prove the flame. SAAB is nice though, and GM jewed them pretty bad bc Jews.

>>16388829
Cheap ass gook turd

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the lima

the shit that this little sohc is capable of is insane and it's literally bulletproof

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>>16351982

Is that the engine from the older S40 T5s? Those have a ton of torque down low and die up top. My entire family thinks its faster than the 9-2x Aero just because it feels so quick around town. What they don't know is my old Volvo B52 is faster than both. All the old volvo modulars and the redblocks are awesome.

>>16389097

I'll only let you over if you vote for weed next time. So close.

>>16392588
>Those have a ton of torque down low
It's amazing how much torque makes you feel like you're pulling faster than you are until i became a honda boi, little ass wheels and low gears makes 80mph feel fast.

>>16392431
lol ford is so terrible

>>16392625
>It's amazing how much
I never knew how much*

>>16392588
That engine needs more oil fill caps

>>16381323

I miss this America.

Doubt half of you millenials would even know this kind of grammar or have the attention span to read the entire paragraph.

Maybe I'm wrong. Hope so.

>>16392714
>Big ass displacement and 12 cylinders
>Dual carbs
Fuck that thing, I'll stick to my high revving 4cyls that last for 200k even if it's a moron owner.

t. Millenial trash

>>16392714
Hell yeah nigga

M20

>>16392714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT8DNOLGVRY

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toyota 5m

>>16370948
>NX2000 still being driven around
shit like that makes me smile. i have never seen one in my long 19 years of living but i hope to. those things are ugly as hell but super rare

>>16379473
Doing cam swaps on them are pretty easy compared to OHV. Hot cam on a Marauder or SVT Cobra and god damn they can tear up the drag.

>>16384625
Holy shit is it just me or does every Rotofag get hyper defense about "MUH SPECIAL MAINTENANCE" or "EASY MAINTENANCE".

A Mazda rotor engine IS NOT MADE TO LAST. You're lucky if you can push at least 100k out of it, but going beyond on normal maintenance doesn't fucking exist. Shit horsepower ratings, shit torque, shit fuel economy, shit reliability, those engines are just not made to last. Fuck mazda and their rotary piece of shits, if you claim you have a 120k mi+ RX with no issues, you are definitely lying

>>16393524
>05 RX8 with 120k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqCh0IPdWj8

>>16389776
Yeah, but this was the early 90's.
This was the first car to use ion sensing and even nowadays, many cars use a site flex sensor or knock sensor instead, which doesn't automatically adjust ignition timings.
The difference being a Flex sensor will detect the fuel mix and either select the right tune or heavily retard the engine, and a knock sensor will only detect knock after the knock has happened.
Ion sensing, through the spark plugs means that you can PREVENT all knock from happening and that the car will run on anything combustible.

SAAB was the first and they were the best.

Also, that variable displacement turbo V8 that SAAB pioneered with telescopic con rods, I really wish GM hadn't killed that I'm favour of a boring V6.
The NA prototype made 300HP from less than 4L of displacement.

>>16352069
>>16352133

It's actually 160 lb/ft faggots

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>smooth power with excellent torque curves
>very reliable will run without oil, blown heads and or exhaust manifold; still chugging on in africa and eastern europe, and middle-east
>easy to work on with millions of parts readily available
>will run on any fuel
>forged internals from factory with outstanding build quality

this engine is the one of the best ever made. my aunt owns a w126 she bought for 400 bucks literally never maintained it -- all i ever did was add water and coolant i felt so bad for the car -- it is still running with minimal maintenance. i want to take it from her and fix it up... she refuses because it has never left her down.

>>16393795
It's actually 160 lb-ft

>>16393810
That's pretty healthy.

>>16354822
>Gasoline
You can, but this isn't recommended - it's basically a loosely tuned diesel engine, so running straight gas through the injector pump will damage it over time due to a lack of sufficient lubrication.

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>>16366521
Just took my baby to the doctor. She's gone for the full treatment.

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>>16369459

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>>16394422
Australia has alwas been straight six country

>>16394430
>intake and exhaust on same side
Why would you post a piece of shit in this thread?

>>16394450
Not knowing about the legendary hemi 6

>>16394472
>hemi 6
lol, doubt it. Show me those combustion chambers
>legendary
What's its race record?

>>16393494

With most of those era of Nissans, they either died a early death being wrapped around poles or too many half assed engine swaps. Many NX2000s were cannibalized for their rear disc setup too.

>>16394479
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HEMI_265ci_6_cylinder_combustion_chamber.JPG


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Valiant#Motorsport


why are you so retarded? kysfgt

>>16394539
>he thinks that's hemispheric
Real Hemi coming through.
>legendary race record
>a Class-D win and a one off third place outright
LEGENDARY

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>>16394539
>"hemi"
>The Hemi-6 is a pushrod O.H.V. (overhead valve) engine, with combustion chambers comprising about 35% of the top of the globe. This creates what is known as a low hemispherical shaped chamber. Although the Hemi-6 does not contain truly hemispherical combustion chambers, the "Hemi" moniker was used primarily for its marketing cachet based on the reputation of Chrysler's 1950s-1970s (true) Hemi V8 engines.
I think Chrysler Australia was snorting a lot of powdered glass in the 60s and 70s.

>>16393534
That happens when you overheat the engine once and burn the housing gasket.
That is pretty much like a head gasket on a piston-engine.

>>16394600
coolant gets in the chambers and gets burned...

>>16394430
Oh wow it's a 4.0jeep engine without EFI

Merrican made version shits over the Aussie six

>>16394777
Kek confirms the superiority of America.

>>16394777
It actually isn't, even though it looks identical.
Either way, both examples be it hemi 6 or 4.0 are over rated crap.

>>16388720
Nani?
Kansei dorifuto?!!

>>16394600
>>16394605
That also happens when you don't undergo an engine rebuild at the 100k mark, because that's how shit those engines are.

>>16396186
Nope, that just happens if you damage the housing gasket, what you mean are apex-seals.
These blow at about 100.000 miles if you abuse your engine.

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>>16352611
I have 4, they are not god tier, diminishing returns and a very low ceiling. BEAMs is better, pretty much any small honda motor is better. If you want to go forced induction then the SR20 is better, 3SGTE is better, I do still love them though.

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>>16394552
Can any americns here explain why you gave up the beautiful Cleveland for the wheezing Windsor?

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>>16396672
And 5.2 flat plane memes aside why you built a 5.4 V8 the physical size of a big block but with a huge stroke that negates the reason for having DOHC heads?

>>16396718
>long stroke DOHC
Dafaq am I reading?