NAME A WORSE REDESIGN

>>16345642
also the former came with a 5 speed manual. I mean they were rare but the later never came with a 5 speed manual

>>16345642
4th_gen_acura_tl.jpg

>>16345642
They both fucking suck.

>>16345699
the '78 to '79 is pretty bad too

>>16345711
Mustang II to Fox is bad? That was one of the best redesigns

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>>16345642
Oh but I can

>>16345726
Fuck you beat me to it

>AE86 Corollas
>Celicas
>Starlet
>Toyota Crown Athletes.
>NA, NB Miatas versus the ugly and bloated NC
>Hilux
>Tacoma


The list goes on.

>>16345726
I do like the e39 but the bangle 5 isn't that bad.

>>16345726
>>16345764
the v10 more than makes up for the shit looks

>>16345780
Th v10 just makes the crime worse.
Why stick a good tier engine in a shit tier car?
that's a crime against humanity.

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>>16345778
But the NC2 is okay.

>>16345642
RX7 FD
Looks like a great bleached whale

The SC430 is pretty bad

>>16345780
the 540i I had was money pit at 150k, can't imagine what it costs to upkeep a V10. At least the E39 being sexy as fuck made the pain of an empty wallet bearable.

>>16345780
i thought the v10's ALL drank oil
like it was cursed with bad rings

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>>16345796
the nc miata is horrendous trash regardless of generation

it is objectively the worst miata by 12 country miles

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>>16345674

No more manuals on that gen.

t. gen 1 ES owner (with an auto)

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>NC
>ugly

stop having a pleb taste

>>16345807
Absolutely terrible, you're right. Plus having driven both Gen SCs, they made it so much worse everywhere... somehow less comfortable and less sporty. Honestly Lexus shit the bed so hard with all their early-mid 2000 redesigns (except the LS430, which was worthy of the title. LS460 a shit though).

>>16345726
>>16345764
Really bad but not as bad as Lexus, if only because the 5 series stayed good mechanically and was still desirable in isolation. E39s are so incredibly handsome, it was an impossible act to follow.

>>16345733
Not a bad redesign, just a car that was always shit.

>>16345681
I didn't even like the 3rd gen vs the 2nd gen but at least they got a manual option and stopped making autos that ate themselves every 70k miles.

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>>16345778
>>celicas
I like them all desu

>>16345965
I really, really want to like the last-gen GTS but I would 100% take a clean Corolla XRS of the same year over it. They really, really did a terrible job on the last Celicas - weird considering almost all their designs from that period have aged well I feel.

>>16345965

Ehh, 1-3 Gen and ST165, ST185, and ST205 for me.

>>16345807

Oh yeah, how could I forget that ugly monstrosity.

>>16345944
1st gen look good
2nd gen look like ass
3rd gen look godly
4th gen looks like a transformer shitting out plastic triangles

3rd gen trans still ate themselves until '06

>>16345925
>Let's take the NB, remove any definition or curves it had then fatten it up!
Mazda thought it was ugly enough to facelift twice

>>16345965
Celicas be like

Sexy
What
No
Oh God
Covers mouth
Vomits
It's too late to help now

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Hawkeye -> Hatch
Evo 9 -> Evo 10
Both are downgrades.

>>16346060

EVO 10 is pigfat dogshit. You have to be mentally ill to buy it. 4b11 is shit.

GR/GV STIs are wet noodles. They tried to mass market a niche car and failed.

GD/EVO8-9 are the pinnacle of US market Rally cars.

If only we could get legit EVO IV-Vs and GC8s here

New Murano.
The fascia is literally HOREY SHET

>>16347901
>crossover

>>16347955
NB -> NC

it just got fat and ugly

>>16345642

Why did the 1992-1996 ES300 have projector headlights while the 97-01 version had older tech halogen crystal ones?

>>16345642
I just see two insultingly-overpriced Camrys

>>16345722
>fox
>not garbage

Took them 25 years to put a chassis not made of linguine under the car

>>16345726
Fuck you I jumped on this thread specifically for this redesign.

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>>16348229

A lot of decontenting took place IMO, that was one of the bigger more noticeable things.

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>>16345699
I agree, the Mustang has gone a long way from the beauty it was in the 60's, to the 70's vulgar shit, to the 90's hideously boring shitboxes.

>>16348385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzMQX5Frfw

>>16345733
A dreadfully hateful car. This is like driving around a washing machine. Grey, boring, noisy, uncomfortable, difficult to handle because of terrible quality. Don't buy this horrible piece of shit, even though it's cheap. Be clever, reuse, buy and old merc. My God I hate this. It's the same with all those small asian cars. It's almost embarrasing to be seen in one. I have this idiot of a friend, who doesn't care about anything but price.

>>16345805
Fuck u

>>16348385
those early 70's stangs are pretty disgusting desu. The fox looks are understated for a 'muscle car' but at least proportional

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280z to the 280zx oh my god talk about shit served on a platter, not to mention z31 to z32...

IS300/'tezza to '06+ IS was way worse.

>>16345733
>I daily one of these fuckboxes

>>16348402
Anyone have the meme style pic?

The one of the red hatch where the hood and lights are all bulged way up blocking the drivers view, and the windows are almost non existing and the lines are all bent. The doors seem to go on forever, and the tires are tiny as fuck.

And then a pic of a red Chevy sonic is placed under it and you realize that they almost look alike?

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>>16349207

>>16345965
this senpai, I think they all look great. 7th gen hate is such a dumb meme

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I can and did

>>16349259
Yeah that

SO PROGRESSIVE
MUCH COURAGE

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Contributing.

>>16345726
Am i the only fucking person in the that isnt offended by the way the e60 m5 looks? fuck any non -m e60 though, looks like cheap pleb tier trash.

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>>16349575
Redesigned small cars are all bloated garbage.
>2nd and 3rd gen twingo
>SUV-sized Mini
>pigfat Fiat 500

>>16349331
I honestly don't see the problem

>>16349850
Latvian love.
kunt

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>>16345642
WHY even

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>>16349898
It's okay from some angles, and in all nonvisual regards it's an even better car than the second gen, but it's terrible from other angles. I feel divided about it.

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>>16345674
The greatest design failure of them all OP

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let's get this shit started

>E46-E92
>E39-E90
>Anything Porsche redesigned after 2007
>1970 camaro-1972 camaro
>NB Miata-NC Miata
>ST205-whatever the fuck Toyota huffed for Project Genesis
>E140 Corolla-E170 Corolla
>Blob eye-Hawkeye
>ST197-S550
>Whatever the fuck GM has been doing with the Camaro and the Corvette since getting bailed out
>Whatever the fuck Mercedes has been doing over the last decade
>Mazda anything after 2005
>Lexus predator mouth

>Dodge after the bailout
>Ford after the bailout
>Every French car ever (but the old Twingo)

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>Here's the template lads.

You're welcome.

`lude 4th gen > 5th
`tegra 3rd gen > 4th gen
any Silvia after S13

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>>16349924
>Every French car ever

The SM looks better than the DS desu

>>16348385
I really like the fox body because it's a factory sleeper

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The Ford boys need to get back to basics.

>>16350201
That top Stang looks just as trashy though.

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They ruined it

>>16346074
Wew there. Did an Evo 10 and STI tag team your girl or something?

>4b11 is shit
You serious Clark?

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>>16350258
I agree senpai.

>>16350258
They both look great desu.

>>16350258
Fuck off tripfag, there's isn't a single bad looking mazda rotary vehicle

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>>16350258
He's right, you know boys!!

>>16345965
Why they were discontinued anyway?

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what the FUCK were they thinking?

>>16349912
The facelift model helps, though the previous gen is still far better

>>16350241
more trashy desu
>all that rice

>>16350393
kek

>>16345642
I miss my '98 ES

>>16345681
The face lift was alright, but the drive train more than makes up for the lack lustre looks

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>>16350393
I actually feel this way about the current Morgan Plus 8.
Making it wider just ruined the looks.

>>16350258
>>16350270
>>16350382
>Tripfag is samefaging
>Figures

>>16349898
>>16349912
It was for a lower drag coefficient which means better fuel mileage and less wind noise at highway speeds

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>>16345879
oh yeah?

http://jalopnik.com/i-bought-a-lexus-for-600-1565335441

http://jalopnik.com/the-old-lexus-es300-was-obviously-a-sports-sedan-1554294111

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>>16345642

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Remember this sweet ride?.....

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>>16350417
>being wrong
kek

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>>16350438
>covering up the (you)s
>not even inspect element

>>16350445
>not using MS paint
>ISHYDDT

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>>16350454
>delfecting

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How did they stray so far?

>>16350461
>>16350461
desu I have no idea what you're so booty bothered about. I mean I can just take screenshots of their posts that say (You) if you want.

>>16350387
I was told it was because the market for sporty coupes was disappearing. Gas prices were rising and sales were dropping. I heard its also why stuff like the MR2 and Rx7 died off

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>>16350466
So true senpai

>>16350416
Believe it or not, I was not entirely joking.
At least the roadster still looks like it's good old self (unless you demand the wider one).
The three-wheeler looks fun as fuck too but it's a bit expensive for a toy.

>>16350482
Why exactly we see a drop of interest in coupes? What the fuck happened after 00s? Literally only BMW coupes are acceptable nowadays

>>16350509
Can't carry your 1.5 children easily in a coop, and women have more say in car purchases than ever before

>>16350512
Ain't this the truth. Just look at all the Crossovers on the road ffs.

>>16350509
With the higher gas prices people wanted shit that was better on gas. Plus they all fell for the wife meme and needed a family car.

>>16350509
Cars are becoming more and more expensive not only themselves but also to insure, maintain and fuel, meaning the market for sport coupes is becoming smaller as the middle class becomes less able to afford several vehicles that are not practical. That only leaves upper classes as the marketbase, the higher parts will go straight to luxury coupe territory and such (see Jaguar), the lower parts seem to prefer giving up on sporty cars and rather invers in profitable goods with better resale value (which modern car do not have, at all), namely land

>>16350551
>mfw suburban moms refuse to accept that they can put their one potato of a baby in anything smaller than what would have been considered a massive car 30 years ago
the safety meme has gone too far, to the point that the Nissan Juke is not only concieved but also sells well as an "urban SUV" because that makes complete sense.

>>16349179
zenki z31 turbo is perfection

>>16350466
real tears

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3rd to 4th gen 4runner

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>>16350573
>>16350551
>>16350512
If I procreate this is how I'll ferry my progeny around

>>16350201
>eleanor
are you 12?

>>16350626
>implying a woman would be fine with that (unless she is one of the very few who actually cares about cars, or hobbies in general)
>implying she would let you if she isn't fine
>implying this wouldn't be ground for divorce if she isn't fine but you do not comply
>implying you could avoid divorce as a man if the woman wants it
>implying you would ever get to see your child again afterward
That's a shame because I'm pretty sure any kid would like the school run a lot more if it was in a sport car.

>>16350664
>implying I would tie myself down with a woman who wouldn't be fine with cars as my hobby

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>>16350646
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>16345642
Nice Honda accord

>>16350682

MKIII looks better with it wedge design. The Supra is the start of the bloated car look. Its round all over, Big gaping Front end, and lose of pop ups.

>>16350607
This is the same deal as the CLS for me, I love the front of the old one and the back of the new one

>>16350664
>>implying a woman would be fine with that (unless she is one of the very few who actually cares about cars, or hobbies in general)

They're, more common than you'd think. My mom drove a '88 CRX Si before she had me.

>>16350678
The problem with that is that many are more than fine with it at first because it seems like a hobby like any other, except it actually has some practical use.
And then it starts to get costly.

>>16350722
>They're, more common than you'd think.

Holy shit I'm retarded.

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>>16350723
I wish I were gay, things would be so much easier when you don't have to deal with women

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>>16345642
es300 masterrace
>tfw you never actually took a picture of your es, because its so basic

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This one still baffles me to this day.

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>>16350626
>tfw your car is both fun to drive and practical

>>16350835
>vf500f

Me too anon

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It used to sorta look like a sports sedan and now it looks just like the Corolla and Prius.

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>>16350894
literally looks like pic related

>>16350840
>Top tier aesthetics
It looks like a fucking hotwheels car

Literally pick any Jag you can think of

>>16350840
Yet the MRS is one of the best handling cars.

>>16350423

Mis-spelled/mis-named on my part. Yes the ES250 based on the 88-91 Camry would technically be the first generation of ES, making my 92-96 car a 2nd gen. I guess I thought of it as the first generation of specifically the "ES300" ie there are two gens of ES300 before it became ES330 and having been an ES250 prior.

>>16345722
Foxbody a shit

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>>16350963
I don't think cars are for you. You should leave.

>>16350970
It also looks like trash

>>16350996
>Still sperging out
Come back when you're old enough to post on here

>>16350996
I think he might have interpreted that the MRS was the one claimed to have top tier aesthetics

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>>16345726
I didn't come here to be triggered
Pic related is my baby
Trying to find the armored version but it's near impossible

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>>16350967
I think their newest line looks bretty gud. Especially compared to the early-mid 2000s. XK from that gen wasn't terrible tho.

>>16350941
Whoever designed that Lexus and Toyota line should be lynched.

>>16351003
>Posts shitty opinion
>gets called out
>lol bro quit sperging

>>16349924
>E39-E90 how you gonna compare a 5 series to a 3 series.

>>16351014
I can't agree, what few cars don't look total shit are all just blatant copies of other cars
Just like how pretty much everyone in the industry has been copying Aston Martin for the past 5 years

>>16351011
>Trying to find the armored version but it's near impossible
What for? It will be pigfat

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>>16351088
Idk I have no complaints about the current models. Even the XJ looks decent. And I kinda like that new crossover they have. I was expecting it to be small like some X1 and look like a turd but it is nice.

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>>16349955

Ignore that fag, the French made some of the best looking cars

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This hurst my soul

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>>16351283

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>>16345965

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>>16349915
>>16349926
Man, you put my initial graphic to shame. I suppose it's ironic for me to be commenting on aesthetic merit while drawing squiggly lines in MS Paint like a trisomic child. Also bang on, new NSX a shit.

>>16349898
The jump to the LS460 is so much worse I don't even car about the blobby front end. Also the feel of the LS430 is excellent, true to the original. LS460 a shit.

>>16350143
Fuck, even the facelift around 2000 was bad. Have you sat in a new Taurus? How to you make a car that big and fat but still somehow have no room inside. New Taurus a shit.

>>16350466
You could easily compress the time span here to just the hawkeye in 08 becoming the 09 hatch. Pretty much 90% of the ruining happened in that one model year change. New Subarus a shit.

>>16350840
Why did we have to get the FRS mememobile instead of a new MR2?

Honestly can someone post a car that improved one gen to the next? I'm getting super depressed by my own thread.

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>>16345699
But that's a good thing though

>>16350646
>mk.ii not top tier

plen

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>>16349915
/thread

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>>16350201
>nick cage Eleanor

gross

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From the big book of What The Fuck Have You People Done

>>16350466
>literally a civic with AWD

modern car designers need to get lynched

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>>16345642
You ugly... you your daddy's son

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real fuckin' disgusting

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>>16351859
Remember when headlights went on the front of the car

>>16351859
Came to post this, just saw one on show at the mall

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>>16351336
>not liking the bug eyes on the 6th gen

>>16350466
>>16350483
Real question: why do mid 80s through 2000s old but non-classic shitbox looks that would make normies think you were poor and living in your parents basement get fapped to so hard on /o/, while cars with more modern lines and styling are more often than not ridiculed? Ever consider that you might be wrong and permanently fucked in the head by this forum?

... I don't mind the new Subarus... There I said it.

>>16350258
(You)

>>16351894
I can't think of any bug eyes I like.

Any f150 after 1996

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>>16345642
what about the Lexus SC series?

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>>16352239
The SC430 is a hot pile of shit but it does look pretty okay imho, especially in SGT trim

>>16350840
I think all the MR2s look good desu. You could easily argue the MRS is the worst of them looks wise, but I'd totally own one if I had the chance

>>16352239
That's actually an improvement kek

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>>16345642
When ever I see a 71 or 72 I can't control my autism
THOSE FUCKING HEAD LIGHTS OH MY FUCKING GOD
And the worst part is the 71s are more popular then the 70s

>>16352535
>>16352535
Trucks are either completely chrome front end or black plastic all over.

>>16351026
Oh, I get it. You're the guy who "tells people how it is" and calls them thin-skinned when they find you annoying, but then you're the quickest of anyone to get triggered when somebody disagrees.

I know a ton of retards like you and it's all the same, they exist in some quantum state where they're both the protagonist and antagonist of strawman comics

>>16352561
So fucking true anon!!

>>16352561

>And the worst part is the 71s are more popular then the 70s

Not to me they're not. And my opinion is the only one that matters.

>>16350421
>Implying 0.28 needs to be improved.

>>16350433
MARRRK TOOOOO

>>16352561
>And the worst part is the 71s are more popular then the 70s
Wait, what?
When did this happen?

>>16352658
When ever I see that shape off in the distance or fail to see the turn signal on the fender as I come up the broad side of the car its always a 71 rarely do I ever see a 70s

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>>16352589

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Left, MK1, glorious, aesthetic, iconic.

Right, MK2, forgettable, bland, a total backslide.

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>>16352836
Agreed. The saddest part, all done in the name of sportiness and aggressiveness.

>>16352836
>forgettable, bland, a total backslide.
your mom

>>16351780

The old one was a Corolla with awd and ricer parts. Subaru just cant into originality.

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>>16352865
I mean, that MK2...the tacked-on looking spoiler, the front end that looks like it came off a Camry, the generic-ness of the lines. I'm an Audi fan since I own a MK1 but damn did they screw the pooch on that refresh.

>>16352884
I don't mind the spoiler but the whole thing looks boring. The MK1 was one of my dream cars as a kid, it's just too iconic. Same with the New Beetle.
The current Beetle is an awesome looking car and I bet it's fun to drive, but it isn't half as iconic as the New Beetle was. It's just a generic coupe. I mean, I drool over it because let's face it, it looks cool and even a bit like a Porsche, but at the same time it will age like shit. It lacks the timeless iconicity the other one has.

>>16352836
I like MK2 best, a nice mix of the cuteness of the MK1 and the edginess of the MK3

>>16352836
>tfw own a mk1 TT i bought for 4 grand
>normies and women always think its worth like 10k-20k
>get complimented everywhere i go by whores
>one time im riding with my gf and we see a mk2 TT pass by and she says "is that also an audi like yours?"
>tell her yes but newer, shes surprised and says she thinks mine looks nicer

>>16351753
First time seeing that second car.

Jeez it's obscure to non-limey people for a good reason.

>>16352907
I'd assert that girls like it because it looks like a man's beetle.

>>16353135
Makes sense.
t. guy who compared it to the beetle above

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>>16351846
>hating on the 300
>posting stanced 300 and 350 because NUH-UH I NO LIKE IT
YOU'VE CROSSED THE FUCKING LINE

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This fucking thing

>>16353388
lol they did away with the shitty double round light design, it's been the best thing they've done in decades
After 1995 Mercedes went to shit and since around 2009 they've been picking up

>>16352836
>Left, Golf. Right, Golf.

>>16353367

350 is pretty horrible and 370 looks only marginally better.

>>16353443
>Golf with Audi bodykit

fixd

>>16353367
The only good 300 is the z31

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>>16350840
The MRS is the lightest and best handling MR2, stick a 2ZZ in there and you have something special

>>16352594
They got it down to 0.25, which is pretty damn respectable for a luxobarge

Consider this, 15 years later and everyone's jizzing about the Model S' drag coefficient of 0.24, despite that car not having an air intake or engine to cool

>>16353233
Pedestrian safety

>>16353995
this or v6/3sgte sw20 is my realistic dream car

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>>16353411
>and since around 2009 they've been picking up

>>16351728
no it isnt

ugliest Mustang

>>16352022
Who cares what "normies" think? Considering cars are nothing but appliances to them and driving is considered a daily nuisance they're opinion holds no value to car enthusiasts.

>That said I also don't mind the new WRX either. New Impreza looks nice to but no manual option in burgerland ;_;

>>16352022
/o/ likes what they can afford and shits on what they cant everyone knows 80s cars are the ugliest but pretend to like them since they can afford them

>>16348229
japan went from an economic boom to a recession

>>16354132
I just like straight lines. Call me autistic but that's the design language that speaks to me.

New cars are out-and-out better but the engine bays are cramped, full of shit, COVERS COVERS COVERS and drive by wire is ass. They also need to chill the fuck out, way too angry.

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>>16345965
1st gen ofc
>Light
>RWD
>1.6 twin cam
>twin carbs
hnnnggg

>>16354199
hot

>>16354016
That's definitely more elegant than the previous model, besides I said "they started picking up". Keyword being "started". Nowadays they look much better.

>>16354257
But the W221 was put on sale in 2004

>>16354298
?? how does this conflict with anything he said

>>16354317
this lol
>>16354298
But the E-class stayed ugly until like 2011, and that S-class isn't as good looking as they used to make it. It's a step up from the 220 but that's it. It improved a lot with the 2009 facelift though.

>>16354317
They've been getting better well before 2009

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WTF were they thinking.

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I cant believe no one mentioned this yet

>>16354490
They both look like shitboxes to me

>>16348385
the fox body mustangs were the best mustangs ever built

light and not pigfat dogshit and can actually corner

>>16354500
lolwat

theyre heavier than older ones
handle like shit compared to every Mustang after it

and ugly as all hell

Foxbodies are pure garbage

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whatever the sonata turned into after 2007

it use to look very sleek when the accord and carolla looked like ugly encono shitboxes, now its just ugly pigfat

>>16354500
>He actually believes this
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>16354500
m8 they handle like shit stock and have no power. They're the worst mustang ever produced. The mustang 2 is better ffs

>>16353947
>tfw no TT

>>16354582
new is a helluva improvement

>>16354596
looks like over processed shit

>>16354582

ghosn nissan as a whole was worse for the brand

>b-but muh VQ engine
>muh profitability

it's fucking dead as a brand but normies will lease the newest model regardless of badge

>>16354517
s tu b by

>>16350840
SW20 is the worst looking of the MR2s.
Something about the proportions just isn't right, like they stretched it out too much about the middle.

>>16350607
One of the worst for sure

>>16354610
Deadass?

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>>16350699
I had a 2001 w/ 3.0 V6
Loved that car to death
>pic related

>>16354434
woah dude that actually looks awesome, Lambo-tier
10/10

>>16354639
I was thinking of buying one as a daily drive

what would be the right price for one?

>>16345642
No OP, both are shit.

>>16354639
>Loved that car to death
>>pic related
lol, literally to death
>>16354610
Then it's not dead, lol
Also I thought badges were for normies and that we the enthusiasts cared for the actual cars

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>>16354645
Honestly you can get a much newer Accord for not much more

These ones can for for as cheap as $5k

>>16352216
Alfa bug eyes look alright.

>>16354328
Lower image is Budapest, Freedom Bridge, Pest side at the Corvinus University.

>>16354490
Civic looks god for its year of production. What the fuck youre talking about. Same design aint gonna stay forever

>>16352801
>one year only design change of a 46 year old car is rare to see
More news at 10!

Can't be fucked finding pictures but when the Holden Cruze went from a Suzuki Inglis based micro suv to become a daewoo based sedan

>>16354500
>best mustangs ever built

>All the torsional rigidity of a wet noodle

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Hudson Hornet went from post war beetle sleekness to over glorified Hollywood style.

>>16351101
X350/358 was better. A fastback XJ is the equivalent of Porsche making a folded paper 911 in the 80's.

>>16352508
what the hell are you smoking dude? Did you forget to open your friggin eyes? The SC430 is a steaming pile of crap, whereas the SC300/SC400 is beautiful.

>>16351101
snepai, you want the previous gen of this, whoever designed that rear end needs to fucking end themselves.

>>16356535
More like the old one is an ugly bland POS with bug eyes and an uninspired silhouette and tailights

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>>16345642
Checkmate.