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Best enthusiast car of the decade right here.

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Best enthusiast car of the decade right here.
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>>16338855
Probably the most fun new car you can get for the money.
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too bad it looks like an angry catfish with winged eyeliner
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The only car I haven't seen /o/ shit on yet. This thread will fix that.

I love mine.
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>>16338855
Massive pile of shit.
Not even designed by ford
Ford literally cant make their own car without having their hand held. And even then they make unreliable shit.
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I have the 5-door, one of my coworkers compared it to a silly putty egg container and I found it disturbingly difficult to argue
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>>16338855

Ford do know how to make a good hot hatchback but I prefer the ol' Cosworths
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>>16338895
>not designed by Ford

Burden of proof is on you.
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>>16338895
who designs it?
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What is the purpose of this? Vortex generators on the side mirrors?
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>>16338917
Oh hello mazda 2. Im sorry they ruined you and made you into an unreliable shit heap to sell to ignorant ford owners.
Oh whats that you say? They took mazdas engine designs too!?!?!
AND made them less reliable!?!?
Hope no one buys a ford product. Would be a poor decision
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>270lb-ft of torque with tuned stock turbo
>usable rear seats with hatchback practicality
>good on fuel and insurance
>perfectly safe
>great steering/shifter/throttle response
>light and agile
>comfy heated recaro seats
>no bullshit driving modes or other gimmicks
>tuned for oversteer from the factory
>dominates autocross and 2WD rally
>can be had new for only a touch above 20k

Does this car even have flaws?
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>>16338944
>weighs as much as a FRS
>slower than a FRS
>gets btfo by a mazda 6 on track
>is unreliable as fuck
Yeah its flawed
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>>16338944
>270lb-ft of torque with tuned stock turbo

Anyone do this to their FiST? How hard is it to get going without spinning the tires in 1st? Maybe it's not that bad, but I imagine it being annoying haha
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>>16338917
>>16338928
>nearly 2017
>not knowing most fords are rebadged mazdas
I mean really. Its been fords thing since the company began.
Take someone elses design, build it as cheaply as possible, and slap a ford badge on it.
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>>16338855
enthusiast cars are built track cars with some clicks taken out for the canyon

this is a 'car guy' car.
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>>16338954
>slower than a FRS
Barely, and would rape FRS with a simple tune. What can you do to make your meme-car faster? Lol
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>>16338975
>car guy
>fwd subcompact
No, its a girls car
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>>16338855

That's not Snek.
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>>16338970
Making 260 on the front wheels right now. I'll let you know in the spring when I get some Indy 500 tires. I found the stock Pilot Sport AS3's to be lacking for grip though, you can't really floor it until you're halfway through 2nd gear
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>>16338985
>FiST
>girls car
I've literally never seen a female-driven ST
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>>16339002
Its all i see.
Or old ladies
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>spend under 25k on car brand new
>upgrade nothing except the brake pads
>run 8:14 on Nurburgring

What other cars let me do this?

https://youtu.be/uwPmkzZOhDI
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>>16338972
>has no proof

>>16338930
these cars dont look remotely similar and they use 2 different engines, 2 different transmissions, so how are they similar.
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>>16338855
>Solid rear axle
>On a FWD
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>>16338972
>rebadged mazda
so who designed the car?
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>>16338980
>Barely, and would rape FRS with a simple tune. What can you do to make your meme-car faster? Lol

a simple tune.
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>>16339025
This actually does make me angry.
They could have converted it to swing arm easily.

but I guess in order to keep the cost so low it remains the same as the base fiesta.

someone probably already has a swing arm conversion. let aftermarket do the rnd is their thinking probably.
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>>16338855
>FWD econobox with a solid rear axle
>Enthusiast car period
Do people really tell themselves this
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>>16339005
A fiesta yes, fist no
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as much as i dislike the fist, a solid rear axle doesn't actually harm performance in a FWD car. like, at all.
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>50k for a focus
>ever
>fwd
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>>16338855
It's a girls car.
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>>16339025
>>16339039
fucking retards gftfo
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>>16339072
Wat nigger?
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>>16339080
Are you implying solid rear axle is good.
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>>16339039
>>16339025
>>16339164
>Civic FK2 Type R
>Megane RS 275 Cup
>Cobalt SS Turbo
>the fastest FWD cars you can buy
>all of them have solid rear axles

Really makes you think.
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>>16338954
A FRS costs as much as a fucking WRX

And the WRX is far better
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>>16338930
>SkyActiv 1.5L makes 89hp
>base Fiesta makes 120hp, ST makes 200hp, UK-spec ST200 makes 215hp

lmao dude
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>>16339183
Are you implying solid rear axle is good?
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>>16339203
NAH D00D DEY KINDA LOOK DA SAME SO THERE 4 MAZDA MADE IT DUDE DON'T YOU NO MAZDA INVENTED EVERYTHING
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>>16339208
I'm implying the differences between IRS and solid are minimal, and you don't need IRS to have good handling in an FWD car.
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>>16339027
Ford
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>>16339222
but it's objectively worse, so.. it should have been swing arm.
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>>16339236
It's supposed to be cheap. You want to pay a couple extra grand so you can be half second faster on the track? Be my guest.
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>>16338930
The Mazda2 is a scion, not a fiesta........
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>>16338980
>>16338954
>literally beats the toyobaru on almost every track there are records for with professional drivers

I mean...Google helps out a lot if you don't want to sound like you are talking out of your ass.
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>>16339236
do you know what a swing arm is?
do you even know what a solid axle is?
you're a fucking retard and should never post here again
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>>16339303
swing arm is a trailing arm.
up ur street iq son.
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>>16338867
Wrong.

That title goes for the best selling roadster in all history.
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>>16338930
Ford and Mazda no longer work together, you should probably get out of pre-2008 and come to the present.

It shares nothing with the Mazda 2 and the engines are not the same engines

That's like saying Honda's K20 engine is a rip off of Nissans SR20 because they're both 4 cylinders
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>>16339072
>50k for a focus
Not even the RS is 50K and that's the best of the best, and it's AWD
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>>16339344
Great weekend car, terrible daily.

Most people can't make do with 2 seats and 4 cubic feet of cargo space. Fiesta ST is 90% of the fun but faster, cheaper, and more usable.
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>>16339314
>swing arm is trailing arm
no anon, a trailing arm is a trailing arm and a swing arm is a swing arm
words have meanings
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>>16338912
Why did they stop with the cosworth tuning arm? Beats me.
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>>16339531
They're dumb
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>>16338855
Will the LED lights from the ST200 fit on my US-spec ST?
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>>16339416
>90%
FIST is fwd so the 9 and 0 change places
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>>16338944
>4 CYLINDER ENGINE

found one
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i must say ford did a really good job marketing this piece of shit econobox as an 'enthusiasts' vehicle
they literally cornered the market for retarded 18-24 year old retail managers who want to feel like an adult by making their first big adult purchase (financing a 20k car at 8% pa for 4 years).
and allowing third parties to flood the aftermarket with crappy flash tunes that honor warranty... they pulled in all the retards who think lurking forum posts about the difference between diNoXanalFiST-flash tune stage 1 and diNoXdickFiST-flash tune stage 1.5 for six hours makes them a 'enthusiast and modifier'

i tip my flatbrim to you, ford shills
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>>16339727
This would be funny but ford does 0% financing deals pretty regularly for the FiST
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>>16338902
>living in avondale or the phoenix metro to begin with

sorry to hear about that, senpai
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>>16339736
shill detected
gtfo
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>>16339752
>Gets proven wrong
>Call him a shill instead to mask butthurt

Lol k
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>>16339736
>got 4000 off sticker for 0%

Feels good man
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>>16339344
Base Miata is like 25 grand you nigger. Also have to go up to club trim to get all the performance goodies.
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>>16339344
If you get a base model Miata you will regret it for the rest of your life, it is shit, just absolute shit. You have to get the top version to have the non-terrible power, and decent performance, which puts it way above the cost of the alternatives.
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>>16339727
>ford
I think you meant to say Matt Farrah
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>>16339762
Thats pretty good

I paid msrp for mine, probably should have tried to get them lower.
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>>16339754
>place bait for ford shills
>they take it
>"huur im not a shill! im just correcting your mistake, ford offers a great package with 0% finance for first tiem car buyers!!!"
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>>16339799
>It was b8 I swear, for ford shills
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
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>>16339719
Says the bus pass holder.
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>>16338855
The only bad part about the ST200 is the colour, but then again everyone has diffrent tastes.

Owned my FiST since Feb, what a great car
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>>16338855
Ford's reliability record is abysmal compared to literally everybody else.

Toyobaru wins by default.

Last time I checked the Toyobaru doesn't have thousands of owners complaining about powertrain/transmission failures online.
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>>16339762
>that photo
and retards call this an 'enthusiasts' car just because it comes with an option for recaro seats (so do honda odysseys and suzuku ingis' btw) lmaro
at least the slightly more expensive miata comes with brembos and forged bbs wheels, not fucking parts bin cast alloy calipers and shit tier chinese wheels
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>>16339833
miata has like 30hp go away loser lmaooo
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>>16339832
>Last time I checked the Toyobaru doesn't have thousands of owners complaining about powertrain/transmission failures
That's right. They're only complaining that they can't pull away from a Toyota Camry on the highway.
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>>16339850
>They're only complaining that they can't pull away from a Toyota Camry on the highway.

you know, no matter how many times you spew that, doesn't really make it true.
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>>16339849
and still faster 0-60 lmao
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>>16338855
Utter trash, the only saving grace is the competition is worse in terms of fun to driveness.
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>>16339868
Nah ah.
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>>16339833
>Brembo brakes on small cars
>useful

Tires determine braking distance, and Brembos are too powerful for the stock tires on either car, and only help them lock up sooner. Pointless in adding Brembos unless you're going to upgrade to much wider/stickier tires first.

Again, I'd like to see a Miata do 8:14 on Nurburgring with nothing but a set of track pads.
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>>16339879

maybe if you got a brand new, top trim camry for 38-40k?

and even then we're still talking about marginally faster 0-60 times.
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>>16339875
Fwd is garbage, what do you want? The new civic type r has > 300 hp and the 0-60 is embarrassing

It's the same reason why MS3s, covalt SSs, and SRT4s have to race from a 30 mph roll. From a dig? Terribly inefficient
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>>16339886
Nah man. You're clearly mistaken.
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>>16339884
>muh braking distance
not having to juggle brake fade is, personally, my biggest concern
but thanks for confirming FiSTing faggots can only look at a stat sheet and dont acually care about driving...
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>>16339884
>brembo only makes one caliper for all types of cars

please go back to your video games.
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>>16339913

had to double check, and no, i'm not.

2012> SE has a 0.3 faster 0-60 time. and they go for 25-35k

keep in mind, thats straight line speed. we're not even talking about tracks.
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>>16339884
>Again, I'd like to see a Miata do 8:14 on Nurburgring with nothing but a set of track pads
8:14 full lap or BTG? because that fiesta youre talking about was BTG
an NC miata with 225 street tires and upgraded brakes will do BTG in udner 8 minutes
neither are impressive
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>>16339924
Might want to triple check. Get back to me.
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>>16339884

>Pointless in adding Brembos

Not really. Bigger brakes also take heat better, and multiple pistons spread the load over the pad.

This is a stock FiST pad with the stock caliper after a track day.

http://www.fiestast.org/forum/fiesta-st-brakes/5224-if-you-track-your-fist-oe-brakes-aren-t-going-cut.html
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>>16339932

you can probably check it yourself already.
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>>16338944
effu effu
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>>16339916
>buy track pads and use high-temp fluid
>no fade after half an hour of running 9/10ths

You don't need brembos faggot
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>>16339937
>paint burned straight off
and people still buy ford shit!? LMAO!!
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>>16339884
>Nurburgring
>commute to bag groceries consists of 90% straight lines
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>>16339943
#iStandWithCamry
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>>16339946
>track pads
you mean like race compound hawks or something? see >>16339937

fiesta st is a shit tier econocar with flashy seats so retarded retail workers such as yourself think its an 'enthusiasts vehicle', protip: it isnt
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>>16339950

I don't think most people use the brakes quite that hard on their daily commute.... Honestly, you have to be a pretty good driver to use the brakes that hard to begin with, so chances are 99% of people will never have that problem.
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>>16339956
>Miata
>faster in a straight line

Only from launch
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>>16339966
no stock car can handle track time. (outside of 50k+ cars)

they all need need brake upgrades at the minimum.
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>>16339966
This. I'd be less embarrassed to be seen in a Fiat 500 Abarth. At least the exhaust sounds gangster as fuck, and girls think it's cute. Guaranteed road head.
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>replying to Alphonse

You guys should know better.
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>>16338855
>muh hot hatch
In America they're just considered bottom tier economy cars.
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>>16339696
Yes, actually. Lots of guides out there for it. Wiring with correct supporting electronics is the hard part. Costs about 850 bucks all said and done. About 730 for the lights, remainder in bulbs and electronics.
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>>16338855
Too bad it's ugly as sin. It looks like an engourged tick.
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>>16340059
I'm not going to pretend hot hatches are better than sports/muscle cars, but there is literally nothing with them if you're on a small budget. They're a good stepping stone to proper performance cars.
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I don't understand the hate, probably from people who have never driven one.

Judging a car on memes is just stupid. I like my WRX, but also see the appeal of the ST lineup.

If you can't find something to appreciate about the Fieta ST performance, you aren't a real enthusiast, bottom line.
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>>16340170
That's like saying a bicycle is a good stepping stone for a hot hatch. They're economy cars bub. If your on a small budget and want a fast car, buy something used.
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>>16340189
>WRX
>Fiesta ST

You aren't a "real enthusiast" either...
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>>16340201

I'd love to see what you drive
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>>16340189
>If you can't find something to appreciate about the Fieta ST performance, you aren't a real enthusiast
more like im just a realist who doesnt try and justify a poor purchase with subjective bullshit
its cheap and poorly built, it has shit tier performance, it has no place being driven like a performance car unless you want to plow off the side of a cliff because understeer and shit brakes... really the only positive thing people can say about it are meaningless buzzwords such as 'peppy'... which means they are just braindead retards regurgitating whatever some paid journalists said... they arent the real enthusiasts

its a horribly mediocre car
deal with it
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>>16340207
A W124 Mercedes E-Class from 1990 with probably a blown head gasket.

Sure, I could probably buy some shitty Ford or Subaru economy car with the brake calipers painted red to call it "hot," but I don't bother.
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>>16340167
it look like my dick
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>>16340207
97 honda accord manuel
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>>16340225
>W124 Mercedes E-Class from 1990
I'd fuck you. No homo tho
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>>16340225

I'd rather have a WRX or fiesta desu.
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>>16340234
>manuel
We didn't ask WHO drives the car
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>>16338855
i seriously dont understand how this car is in any way better than a 1990s honda civic its so much more expensive but still manages to do the same exact thing


i guess some people are cucked by social stigma
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>>16340250
Of course you would you little boiracer fagu.

Tell us, how many stickers have you put on bro? Each one adds 2hp y'know?
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>>16340265
>this shitter shattered people like things he doesn't
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>>16340258
>i seriously dont understand how this car is in any way better than a 1990s honda civic

except for the fact that its 26 year olds newer and not close to death?

>>16340265

that would be 4hp in stickers alone I think.

i'd be exaggerating if I called him a friend. but this local character I know of is obsessed with W124's.

I still got the diesel smell stuck in my nostrils after driving the car the last time.
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>>16340214
>I'm just a realist

Not an enthusiast.
I mean you said it not me.

>>16340201
I enjoy, both subjectively and objectively, my 2008. No car is perfect.
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>>16340214

I dunno man, my ST is pretty playful when you throw it into a corner, and the dynamic torque vectoring keeps it from understeering unless you really fuck things up. It's just so fun to fling, like it's eager to carve up the canyons. What with the international performance pedigree and the predictable behavior, I think it makes a great entry level sporty car. Plus it gets 35+ MPG if you keep your foot out of it.

Is it faster than a Corvette? Will it beat up TT V12's on the street? No. It's an economical grocery getting that does 0-60 in slightly less than forever. But if you think a FiST is boring, go test drive a Mitsubishi Mirage.
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>>16340258
>1990s honda civic
>does the same exact thing

Fiesta ST would demolish any Civic Si in existence on a twisty canyon road.
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>>16338929
to generate vortices duh
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>>16340306
dam thats 1 epic shitpost
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>>16340305
This

The FiST is just an economical commuter car that is fun to drive. I don't know why people are trying to claim it's something it isn't.
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>>16340327
Name me the Si that would keep up with FiST on the snake. Waiting.
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>>16339825
I quite like the colour, but I can see how people might not like it
They offer the FoRS in the colour and I'm sure I've seen the Mondeo in it too
Skoda also do a very similar colour
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>>16339367
>ford still using old mazda tech from over a decade ago
Embarrassing really
>>16339392
>ford fags really are this stupid
>>16339273
And this stupid
>>16339049
And this stupid
Holy fuck pull your heads out of your asses you dimwits
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>>16340655
>look at me calling people names without fact checking anything!

You're the kid sitting in his own poopy diaper picking his nose wondering why no one wants to play in the sandbox with him.
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>>16340748
Go ahead and check facts. He isnt wrong.
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>>16338855
Haven't driven the ST200 but I imagine it's right fun with the shorter final drive.

Still well short of being a Fiesta RS however.
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>>16340655
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>>16340854
Bodykit and turbo upgrade nigga
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>>16340893
You can call me stupid all you want. Doesnt make it less true
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>>16338855
>FWD
>enthusiast
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I drove the FiST on some twisties and on some normal roads. It's pretty great for the money and you can throw it around like it's on rails. If I could draw a comparison it's like a puppy dog, small but full of energy and always ready to go.
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>>16340759
I don't care what the answers are, I know they're the same platform. I'm concerned with him being an asshole. That's uncalled for and something a child would do.
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I approve of the FiST

T. 'Vettefag
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>>16341026
>it's like a puppy dog

Own a FiST, this is exactly what it feels like. It's a hyperactive puppy with a saddle. Even if you're only at 1/3 throttle, you can still feel the turbo trying to urge you to go faster. Even a slight turn of the wheel causes you to dart in that direction. It just wants to GO GO GO.
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>>16339989
naw bruh
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>>16340655
Nigger you're trying to call me stupid for saying girls and old women don't drive FiSTs but do drive fiesta SEs and so on? There's no way in hell these girls are driving manual transmissions
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>>16339762
Those are fuckin shit wheels m8.
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>>16342130
I'm really tired of the blacked-out fad. It's like something a 14-year-old would think is cool...
>a-a-and then.. I made everything BLACK
>FAWK YEA
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>>16342150
Ford liked black. The car is a Ford.

I don't see the issue
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>>16342159
>Ford liked black
I don't
>The car is a Ford
Acknowledged
>I don't see the issue
See above
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>>16342188
Well that's just like your opinion, man
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>ford
>"best"
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>>16342346
Yes that is correct
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>>16342362
Nice mazda
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>>16342367
t.gm fangirl
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>>16342367
If it was a Mazda, it would have 4 doors and wouldn't even make 200HP
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>fwd
>less than 2.0 L displacement
>solid rear axle
>shit interior
>too tall
>literally a meme

Could buy a brz and not have to live with the fact that you drive a "peppy" shit box with a ford interior. 8 years from now the toyobura will still look cool while the fiesta will look like a dated shitbox
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>>16344575
>>solid rear axle
"No"
lrn2car
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>>16344575
Could also buy a BRZ and lose to a FiST on a track, now which is more embarrassing?
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>>16338954
Here I got this for you to help you stop talking out of your ass.
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>>16338954
I also got this for you

Thank me later
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>>16344622
i'd rather be the guy in a rwd sports car than the guy in the fwd econo based cuckbox, no matter the lap times.
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>>16344682
Thats pretty sad when you consider that the FiST costs $21k and the FRS costs $26k
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>>16344721
yes because the frz is a upgraded base model fwd hatchback

t. na driver
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>>16338930
The Mazda2 is sold as the Scion iA here though.
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>>16344798
It might as well be if it can't beat one
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>>16338970
Welcome to owning a car with more than 130hp. And no its not hard. You aren't suppose to drop the clutch at 6k rpm btw.
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>>16338972
Since the company began they were stealing designs huh? Never heard of the model T?

I'll take niggahs that spew bullshit for a 1000 alex.
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>>16340214
What do you drive?
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>>16344715
Naturally it comes down to personal taste, but needing to put someone else's opinion down just to feel good about yours speaks volumes to the tune of massive insecurity.
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>>16344715
>Gets beat
>At least i don't have a c-cuck box
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>>16339980
Just making up some random shit to justify inadequate breaks on a 'sports' car.
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>>16345266
>>16345288
lmao, you people are the type of dumb niggers to shill/own an srt4 neon

it may be quick, but it's a massive pile of fucking garbage that no one really wants, similar to the trash """"performance""" fwd cars made by ford

stop benchracing & realize laptimes aren't everything
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>>16345093
Model t was not the first car ever made moron
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>>16345409
Have you driven both? Didn't think so.

I like unique things about both cars, and can convey them, because I don't have any insecurities pushing their way into my opinions and making me act like a child. The Toyobaru handles exquisitely, with tuning, it is an amazing vehicle. The Fiesta ST has insane torque for how light it is and is ridiculously fun on and off track.

There, that wasn't so hard was it? Try not to be so triggered, mate.
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>>16345530
It was however the first successful large-scale production commonly owned automobile
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>>16345409
>BTFO by a FiST and Never Recovered: The Post
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>>16345957

not him, but I have.

ended up buying a JCW cooper instead of a fiesta a while back. now I got a BRZ.

fiesta is fine but i'd rather have an abarth or civic if I was limited to FWD for some bizarre reason.
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>>16346112
Some might say, FiSTed
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>>16345409

at the very least, the 2.0l ND people are right in being smug about their car being slightly faster.

sad truth, and I hate breaking it to you people, but the fiesta st isn't actually faster than the 86, by any metric.
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>>16346127
Except in drivability, every day acceleration, tunability.... The BRZ is a nice platform with a sickly and anemic engine.
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>>16346135

live rear axles and torque steer, you mean?
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>>16346138
What torque steer? There's too much torque for the tires to grip let alone steer.
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>>16338902
is this yours anon?

this is the first one i've seen that i genuinely like. anymore pics?
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>>16346138
>live rear
>FWD

Hello car throttle

>torque steer

Literally a made up issue. My skinny boyracer arms can handle a 400whp Mazdaspeed3 with zero conscious effort. Nobody is so weak they can't even handle a Fiesta.
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>>16346172
That's just an unmodded 14-15 Fiesta ST with plastidipped wheels m8. They all look like that.
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>>16346181
>Literally a made up issue

I'm done.
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>>16346184
maybe it's just the black and black wheels i like.

do they all come with that spoiler/diffusertype thing
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>>16346191
Yep! At least the MY 14-17's do, I think the platform is getting a refresh for 2018.

And the 16-17 have a real black wheel option, so you don't have to plastidip them (but they don't have the metallic flake in the paint).
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>>16346206
well i like that one, i'm sure they're fun to drive, just not crazy about the looks yet
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>>16346206
I have black wheels with metallic paint, and the paint definitely has flakes in it.
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>>16338944
Yes
>FWD
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>>16346225
16 and up Fiesta's don't have the metallic flake in their paint as they changed from Tuxedo Black to Shadow Black for that model year. That was also the year they introduced black wheels as a stock option.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>16345990
>built cheap
>sold at high profit
>based on someone elses design
Sounds like ford
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>>16346261

Gay

I love the tuxedo black in my '15

Why the fuck would they get rid of it?
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>>16339886
Lol any V6 Camry or Aurion would stomp the toyobaru
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>>16346273

I'm sure.
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>>16346270
I also love the Tuxedo Black on my '15.

I really can't think of a good reason they would get rid of it, other than to maybe give the model a bit of a refresh (which is coming next year anyway).
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>>16346261
I got confused there.

I don't have black, I have grey which Ford calls "metallic." And it has flake in it.
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>>16346321
More like gunmetal gay
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>>16346321
Magnetic might have a flake still, I haven't seen one too closely, but it's definitely not the bassboat like sparkle of the previous paints.
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>>16339719
have you driven either of these cars?
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>>16346120
Jcw cooper is also hilariously fun. Like mentioned, I ended up with a WRX myself, but I get hands on experience with a large number of varying vehicles weekly.

Abarth a grumbly little cute.

>for some bizarre reason
The very essence of personal taste, my friend. Personal taste is the exact reason the Mazda 2 and Fiesta exist side by side.
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>>16346420
>I ended up with a WRX
How do you like? I'm considering this as my next car. Would go with the premium trim level.
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>>16346420
Abarth 500 is extra hilarious when you tune it to 200+ HP. The same tunes should work on the 124, which will make it properly nuts.
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>>16346537
Does the 124 sound as cool as Abarth 500?
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>>16346545
The 124 Spider sounds like shit.
The 124 Abarth sounds like the Abarth 500.

AKA like half a Ferrari
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>>16346266
>sold at high profit
What does this even mean? You sell things at price not at profit. Profits are your potential positive returns on products that you have created and brought to market.
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>>16346545
>124 Spider
itsfuckingnothing.jpg
>124 Abarth
Good, gutteral, but can still tell it's a tarbo 4 when revving the piss out of it
>124 Abarth + Record Monza exhaust
Louder and more gutteral
>124 Abarth + MM Bombardone 2.0
God has come down from the heavens and the angels are singing Hallelujah. It's not out for the 124 yet, but here's how it sounds on the 500

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVfkpNnFKIw
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>>16347232
MUH DICC
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>>16346440
It's everything I needed in a car and then some. Honestly the interior isn't great, it's a bit Spartan, but that also means it isn't cluttered with useless bells and whistles.

Driving-wise, it's absolutely phenomenal for the price. Go test drive one and put your foot into it often, see how much fun you have.
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>>16338895
>Not even designed by ford.

how is this a bad thing
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>>16346321
>halogens
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>>16338855
i finally understand why /o/ likes ford... you guys only keep your cars for a year before selling them due the car breaking down
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