[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ DRZ a shit editio

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>>16329095
This is a good edition

Too soon

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3rd for Merry Christmas!

>>16329095
Post boipucci cm trap anon

kys fat fag

>be too poor to do track days
>own a dirtbike

>>16328917
that's a loaded question.
A 600cc Supersport is gonna be faster than a 1200cc cruiser, but then you also have things like 600cc standards which are still faster than cruisers but much slower than their 600cc supersport counterparts.
Same goes for literbikes.

If you wanna do mostly commuting with a bit of fun cornering and you are new to bikes, get a 600cc standard.

Popular choices include the almighty SV650, the FZ/MT-07, the CBF650, the ER-6N/F and the Kawasaki Ninja 650.

All around 70-75 bhp, 2 cylinders and plenty of torque.

>>16329431
build a track in the woods.
or go to an mx track. they have cheap entry fees

i don't even feel like riding. when does the fun happen?

Things almost nobody considers when judging a bike

>Bore width/Stroke length
>Crankshaft angle
>Firing order
>Wet weight
>Seat height
>Wheelbase length
>Rake and trail
>Suspension travel
>Spring rates
>Stock tire size
>When peak HP and torque are developed

Things everyone considers when judging a bike:

>Number of cyllinders
>Displacement
>Does it look like a racer, a UJM, or a harley?
>Peak HP/torque

>>16329481
I consider most of those things. I am a more experienced bench racer than most though

>>16329481
WTF is crankshaft angle? You talking about the angle between crank pins?

>>16329499
It's the difference between an africa twin and a buzzy ninja that wants to vibrate your dick to smithereens.

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>>16329449

>>16329504
the angle at which your bf's crank is penetrating your shaft

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DRZ (not) a shit edition

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DRZ a (best) edition

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>>16329606
>>16329574

>>16329574
>>16329606

Disregarded.

>last week woman rear ended me
>exchanged details
>finally managed to get bike to the garage to get looked at today
>£118.08 to fix it
>trying to get in contact with the woman today
>first her son answers, says she will call back later
>hours later no call
>call again
>nobody picks up

If I never get a response what should I do? I should have got her reg plate too but I was just so fucking mad at the time I had to get away as fast as possible before exploding at her. Do I call the police? Will I have enough details on her? Got her name and mobile number.

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>>16329638
>Do I call the police? Will I have enough details on her? Got her name and mobile number.

Try again, if she doesn't answer call the popo

>>16329638
burn her house down

>get on bike, running a little late for the last final i have of the semester
>make it a couple blocks, notice the front feels a little loosey goosey
>accelerate, look down and i'm at 27, still doesn't feel like i'm countersteering
>time to pull over
>it's a fucking nail in my rear tire
i swear this happens to me at around the same time with every single new vehicle i buy. a month or two after i get it, i get a fucking flat. the scary thing is it probably happened yesterday while i was riding through this torrential downpour. luckily enough i made it home

>>16329638
Rape

>>16329449
>when does the fun happen?

Never. Riding is a meme. Stop doing it. Sell bike. Purchase a Libreboot Thinkpad, install Temple OS for real fun.

>>16329787
>libreboot
i don't think terry would approve

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>>16329757

>on my way home from work, hooning on my shitbike
>stuck behind a built-for-grandma lincoln land boat
>they're driving 5 in a 20 at the exit of a parking lot, swerving, jumping curbs
>oh boy here we go
>apparently they have the same idea as me, still stuck behind them in the left turn lane at a red light
>light turns green, but they take a full 6 seconds to lurch forward
>to my disbelief, they completely undershoot the median and turn into the perpendicular left turn lane and begin driving
>I'm riding parallel to them, waiting for them to realize
>They realize
>Ancient lady with Giant Fit-Over Sunglasses who can barely see over the steering wheel and her equally antique and vertically challenged friend both appear to be shrieking
>they're waving their hands next to their heads, looking at each other and then the road, their car slowly lurching forward in the opposing traffics' left turn lane until their Land Boat jumps the curb and berths in the grass on the median

riding a motorcycle in florida is scary

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>>16330095
>riding a motorcycle in florida is scary

I know you guys have no twisties of any kind.

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>>16330108
>no twisties of any kind
ummmm but do you have a giant scientology circle? no? didn't think so sweaty ;)

>>16330121
does it shoot lasers

>>16330133
yeah we call it the death star

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>>16329307
What tire is that? Trailrider?

>>16329433
Or step up to an FZ09 and get a better chassis and much better motor. 600 supersport class power but with a friendly torque curve and awesome sound.

>>16330179
>better chassis

I'm not gonna pretend I'm good enough of a rider to make choices about chassis being better than others but I really don't like how the MT-09 I rode handled and the set up of the ergonomics for fast riding etc.

The suspension was hilariously bad for the power the thing put out, it wallowed up and down like a waterbed and you're so high and upright on the thing.

Even with the jackhammer stock forks of the SV and less power I'd take it every time for a run through the twisties/track day.

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>>16330168
shinko 705

>>16330199
The suspension is terrible out of the box on the MT09.

But luckily a ZX-6R shock bolts right up for like $50 and fixes a large amount of the suspension issues on it. Namely an undersprung/damped rear end.

>>16330208
Still won't make the bike as fit for aggressive riding as a real sport bike.

what is/are the best standard(s) available in America right now

>>16330221
It's not a real sport bike.
This is a non-issue.

>>16330228
CB1100 maybe.
Ninja 1000?

I just bought a '94 DR650 for $700. It needs new sprockets and chains, and a new rear brake caliper. Did I do good?

>>16330251
maybe. let us know how well it works and how long it lasts after you replace those.

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How will the drz posting on this site end?

>>16330251
pretty decent. The caliper might be a little bit of money. Sprockets and chains are ~$100 on Motosport

>>16330251
Seems like, there are a grand total of two near me, both around 7 years old both for 5k burgers.

>tfw I might fall for the DRZ meme

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>>16330262
by posting up better bikes.

>>16330262
It won't

>>16330262
>How will the drz posting on this site end?

Due to lack of engine oil.

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>>16330262
when someone builds a better motorcycle

>>16330277
Is the wr good for city riding, getting around traffic and shit?

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>>16330277
I'm waiting.

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>>16330271
WR250 is a better bike in nearly every way compared to the DRZ.

Doesn't have big bore torque like the DR650 if that's what you're looking for but they are reliable as shit, capable offroad and on road and people use them for cross-continent adventure all the time with great success

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>>16330288
not as good as a DR-Z400S

>>16330294
Explain yourself.

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>>16330294
It's not a better meme than the DRZ

>>16330288
That's one of the things it's best at.

Plenty of power for pulling away from stop lights when splitting without being stuck between the cagers, light and flicks around like nothing, great (70+mpg) gas mileage, smooth motor that doesn't rattle you to death, and a 6th gear for good acceleration gearing while still having a good top gear cruise.

>>16330293
Which WR?

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>>16330306
I don't care. None of them are better than a DR-Z400S.

>>16330228
Triumph Bonneville

>>16330299
>wr250
>Makes within ~4hp fo the DRZ
>lighter
>modern aluminum frame
>modern suspension with USD forks
>modern balancer fuel injected motor
>wide ratio 6 speed transmission so highway speeds are no issue even with dirt capable gearing
>handles better off road and on road
>actually faster than the DRZ straight line when both bikes are geared for the same top speed
>70+mpg
>hyoog aftermarket
>better ergos

DRZ literally only has a 4hp advantage. It is worse in every single other way.

>>16330301
better meme? no.

Better motorcycle? Fuck yes.

>>16330318
also, WR has less maintenance than the DRZ.

>3000 mile oil change
>6000 mile filter
>26,000 mile valve checks

>>16330121
which one is the designated shitting street?

>>16330318
>Makes within ~4hp fo the DRZ
debateable
>lighter
not saying much, still almost 300lbs
>modern aluminum frame
steel and aluminum are both still in used for a variety of reasons, one is not better than the other
>modern suspension with USD forks
"modern suspension" is a buzzword means literally nothing
>modern balancer fuel injected motor
almost all 4strokes are balanced
>wide ratio 6 speed transmission so highway speeds are no issue even with dirt capable gearing
needs it due to lolnotorque
>handles better off road and on road
[citation needed]
>actually faster than the DRZ straight line when both bikes are geared for the same top speed
prove it
>70+mpg
ok?
>hyoog aftermarket
because the DRZ doesn't have twice the shit out for it?
>better ergos
entirely subjective

>>16330245
My dealer told me the CB1100 was out of production. Definitely like it though

>>16330316
I sat on a bonneville and it felt like I planted my ass firm on a rock

it also looks a bit too Cafe Racer Wannabe for my tastes

>>16330351
funny you should mention that, dead center of the circle is a sewage treatment facility.

>>16330228
depends on your definition of "standard." the versys is probably the single best utilitarian bang for your buck you can get on the market right now

>>16330368
>CB1100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b2JiKBGy1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n5kfqs_8J8

He lied m8.

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>>16330377
When I say Standard I typically mean in terms of aesthetic and styling. Also it being utilitarian.

I'm sure some people recognize me by this point but my gold standard for Standards is the CB1300 and the VX800.

>>16330382
I just did a quick google and apparently they're revamping the CB1100 as the CB100 RS.
Whether or not it's coming to the States is still up for debate.

Why must every decently styled bike be dead in the water when it comes to the US

>>16330318
Barely lighter than the DR-Z.
Less carrying capacity.
20% less peak power is a huge difference, and it's even more across the normal riding range.
Forks being upside down makes little to no difference. The difference is it makes the ride more harsh.
WR250R shock is way underdampened and tends to buck the rider off.
Sure fuel injection is nice.
WR is already geared lower than the DR-Z stock, and by a longshot as well. Both of these bikes are already limited in top speed by drag way more than revs, so "gearing for top speed" would entail lowering the gearing not raising it.
Stock DR-Z gets 70+mpg as well.
DR-Z has a larger aftermarket.
Ergos are a personal preference but my DR-Z is pretty comfy.

WR literally has an advantage by having a slightly lower first gear if you like to keep the revs up when chugging through small trails. I geared my DR-Z taller than stock and don't mind at all. The taller first gear is especially nice on pavement because I don't have to shift as soon as I take off.

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>>16330359
>debateable
Nope. Pic related.

>not saying much, still almost 300lbs
WR is like 30lbs lighter than the DRZ wet.

>steel and aluminum are both still in used for a variety of reasons, one is not better than the other
Aluminum frames are lighter and stiffer. Putting the chassis control into the suspension, not frame flex. There's a reason all modern offroad bike use twin spar aluminum frames.

>"modern suspension" is a buzzword means literally nothing
You're a complete retard if you actually believe this. You've just invalidated yourself and made it known you've never actually ridden a modern-suspension bike.

Go ride a dirt bike for 15 years ago then go ride a dirtbike from 5 years ago. Try to tell anyone there is no difference in suspension.

>almost all 4strokes are balanced
This is wrong. The DRZ has no balancer. It tries to shake itself apart at highway speeds.

>needs it due to lolnotorque
It needs a 6th gear for the same reason that the DRZ needs a 6th gear. Because gearing for a low enough first/second gear for offroad on the DRZ means you have a shit 5th gear for the highway. This is not an issue on the WR.
WR gearing is actually about the same as the DRZ 1st through 5th. It just ahs a 6th gear on top to make for tolerable highway speeds. The "WR" in WR250 actually stands for "wide ratio".

>[citation needed]
Lighter bike with far better suspension and frame. You do the math. Everyone who has ridden them and every review/comparison out there talks about how the WR handles better than the DRZ. The DRZ has pretty shit suspension out of the box.

>prove it
I've seen it. I've ridden both.

>ok?
Modern motor with fuel injection. Efficiency is a very valid metric for comparison.

>because the DRZ doesn't have twice the shit out for it?
"Twice" the amount of a shitload of aftermarket is meaningless. There is anything and everything you could ever want for a WR available aftermarket.

>entirely subjective
Denial.

>>16330368
>it also looks a bit too Cafe Racer Wannabe for my tastes

It looks like the original Triumph Bonneville, which was also a standard. It is not, AT ALL, a "cafe" bike. The Triumph Thruxton is cafe'ed. Words mean things. Don't buy one if there are hipsters in your area though as they ruined them for everyone else.

Except for California there are very few hipsters. If you see one please park your car on their skull. The hipster imitates real men but is not one. The hipster affects the accouterments of real bikers without being one.

Cafefags who mutilate old junk into asstastic imitations of the classic British originals are the same as the chopperfags who build garbage instead of classic choppers.

>>16330432
>pic related
guess you don't know basic arithmetic then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKxuwjzmtN8

>>16330410
>Why must every decently styled bike be dead in the water when it comes to the US

Because Americans are rich enough to afford multiple specialty motorcycles, like a DRZ for touring, a DRZ for road racing, a DRZ for sidecar use, a DRZ for motocross, a DRZ for trials, and a DRZ for towing broken WRs and KTMs out of the woods.

>>16330450
who was in the wrong in the first one?

https://youtu.be/fNgCPUl7i5o?t=216


>americans

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>>16330432
>lighter
Not when you have to use more of it to get the same durability.
>all modern offroad bikes use twin spar aluminum frames
Kek. The ones winning races use steel alloys.

Being "modern" doesn't make it better tho. The actual damping characteristics are the most critical part of suspension and the DR-Z fork and shock do that excellently.

DR-Z does have a balance shaft. No shit a larger piston will vibrate a little more than a tiny one.

Have you actually compared gearing of the 2? Stock geared DR-Z vs WR at 70mph: 6657rpm for the DR-Z in 5th or 7464rpm for the WR in 6th. The WR doesn't have "wide ratio" gears. It literally just has an extra gear because the only way to keep it going is to keep it in the top 2500 revs.

All the reviewers for the WR say its shock was way too harsh and the DR-Z did better even though it's forks aren't upside down.

>no proof of it being slower than dr-z
>proof readily available that the DR-Z is faster

Your WR a shit

>>16330420
>Barely lighter than the DR-Z.
30lbs wet is not "barely lighter.

>Less carrying capacity.
Unless you're pillion riding with luggage this is meaningless (and doing this on a DRZ would be horrible too). The WR250 has ~600lbs load carrying. This is more than enough for a rider and all the gear he could strap to a light DS like the WR and DRZ. also the WR has a better stator for accessories if you're into that sort of thing.

>20% less peak power is a huge difference, and it's even more across the normal riding range.
Try 15%.
And in light of the WR being literally better in every other meaningful way, that 4hp doesn't count for much.

>Forks being upside down makes little to no difference.
WR has modern USD cartridge forks. DRZ has undersprong, underdamped garbage.

>more harsh
The price of performance is stiffening up the suspension so it's not made of spaghetti. The DRZ's front couch pillows perform like shit offroad and on road. And literally no one has seriously called the suspension on the WR "harsh".

>WR250R shock is way underdampened and tends to buck the rider off.
Citation needed.
If anything it's undersprung in the rear.

>WR is already geared lower than the DR-Z stock, and by a longshot as well.
The WR is geared stupid tall from the factory. 13/43 stock. 6th gear is almost not worth using for anything than perfectly flat or downhill.
Putting 13/47 gearing on a WR makes it faster than a DRZ AND it can still hit 95+mph and cruise at 75.

>Stock DR-Z gets 70+mpg as well.
hahaha

>WR literally has an advantage by having a slightly lower first gear if you like to keep the revs up when chugging through small trails.
And weight/efficiency/suspension/smoother motor/fuel injection/etc.

>I geared my DR-Z taller than stock and don't mind at all.
This is how we know what kind of riding you do. no one who gears a DRZ up does any sort of techincal riding on it. Let me guess, yo do some fire trail and that's about it?

>>16330450
kek at that first clip. The rider's throttle control was so bad I thought he was going to do something stupid but someone else crashed into him before he could.

>>16330486
>The WR250 has ~600lbs load carrying
manual states a full load is 408lbs including the rider
its obvious youre pulling this out of your ass, you can stop any time

>>16330484
>Not when you have to use more of it to get the same durability.
Except the WR is lighter. Your point is moot.

>Kek. The ones winning races use steel alloys.
No they fucking dont.

>The actual damping characteristics are the most critical part of suspension and the DR-Z fork and shock do that excellently.
It's a pretty well known fact taht DRZ forks are garbage from the factory and require springs and valving to be even passable.
They are good if all you do is hit some broken concrete on the way to work. They are garbage for any sort of serious offroading or canyon carving.

>Stock geared DR-Z vs WR at 70mph: 6657rpm for the DR-Z in 5th or 7464rpm for the WR in 6th.
And the DRZ is rattling itself apart at that speed while the WR is begging for more.

>All the reviewers for the WR say its shock was way too harsh and the DR-Z did better even though it's forks aren't upside down.
lel citation needed.

>Your WR a shit
>DRZ has 4hp advantage
>WR has advantage in literally every other single aspect of motorcycling
I think we all know which a shit.

>>16330511
>I think we all know which a shit.
both

>>16330486
Are you confusing a WR-X with a WR-F?

>>16330499
My mistake on the number

My point still stands.
408lbs is more than you would need for anything you'd try to do on bikes this size.
No one pillion rides with overnight luggage on a DRZ or on a WR. The load carrying capacity is a retarded argument.

>>16330486
>The WR250 has ~600lbs load carrying. This is more than enough for a ride
manlet spotted

YOU ARE ALL WRONG

CT110 BEST DUAL SPORT

>>16330486
No lol the DR-Z is sprung for japanese people and dampened perfectly fine. It also has cartridge forks. The WR is underdampened if anything.

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>>16330524

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why does the DRZ vs WR argument matter when they're both poorfag garbage

>>16330527
>sprung/damped for a 120lb gook
>suspension isn't shit for man-size people

yea, okay.

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>>16330524
Also best sportbike.

>Motorcycle
>the chassis is perfectly contoured to evoke a sense of speed and chaos on two wheels
>simply turning it on begets an ominous, aggressive growl
>rolling the throttle changes it into a terrifying roar
>you see a little button on the left handle bar
>temptation and curiosity get the best of you
>you press it
>MEEP MEEP
why is this allowed

>>16330531
Because the WR and DRZ are the only real light dualsports that matter on the market.

Euro street legal bikes are garbage for DS because they require stupid amounts of maintenance and are unreliable.

>>16330537
>POS

ha

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>>16330524
Best cafe too.

>>16330539
underfuckingrated post

>>16330541
Dual sports are for fun. The fun is worth the maintenance. They have small gas tanks, light frames, and light weight for fun. They don't compromise capability for DD practicality.

If you want to commute get an adventure bike instead of a shitty DS that wishes it was an adventure bike.

>>16330539
>pull 12v car horn from scrapyard
>put on motorcycle
fixed

>>16330559
>"adventure bike"
>500+lbs
>shit offroad

No thanks
>having to constantly tear down your KusKTMvarnaqhatever to change the oil because it requires an oil change every 2 trips to anywhere.
>can't leave the city limits without doing actual damange the the bikes mechanics
>gotta check valves and rebuild the cylinder at short intervals because they're plated race bikes.

Sounds like garbage.

No Thanks. I'lll give up a bit of capability for a reliable, reasonably maintainable bike that can ride long distances and got pretty much anywhere those "race bikes" can. And not limited offroad like a pigfat "adventure bike"

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>>16330486
Is this technical enough? I'm not the one recording but I was there riding with him.

https://youtu.be/sshjqUYIOpY?t=11m21s

>harsher is better
No thanks.

>>16330511
KTM uses steel frames and literally dominates the off road industry.

It's a pretty well known fact that the DR-Z forks are pretty good. Any bike will require a respring to get the most of the suspension so you might as well go with the one that will work best after the mods.

>drz is rattling itself apart at 70mph
No it's not. I could cruise at that speed for hours.

>citation
see above video

The DR-Z is a better dual sport. If you're only comparing rideability in terms of off road performance why not get a deidicated dirt bike?

>>16330582
>shit off road

t. cantride

KTM makes some genuinely baller adv bikes

>>16330594
"adventure bikes" are for guys that ride a million miles on pavement to ride a couble dozen on a fire road then go home. No one takes these pigfat "adventure bikes" offroad for real.

All the real adventure riders are smart enough to know a 500lb bike with gear and luggage is a garbage adventure bike. But that doesn't stop tryhards and wannabes from buying them.

No one perfers a heavy bike offroad. They are handfuls and are simply less capable. it's not a matter of riding skill. A skilled rider with a heavy bike will be less capable than an equally skilled rider with a light bike. Try harder fag. You don't know shit about adventure riding.

>>16330587
>NO RLLY DRZ FORKS ARE GUD

lel DRZ fangirls are the most delusionsl retards.

>cites a fucking youtube video

LMAO

>>16330620
Vans handle poorly and are heavy, a small car is much more agile and quick.
no one would ever want to use a van for anything because its slow and heavy.
but i mean its not like you wouldnt pick the van to travel with over a shitbox car

>>16330626
Nobody takes vans out into technical single track or the desert. just like no one takes pigfat adventure bikes out there either.

A light, reliable DS that can carry all you need (changes of clothes, some tools, water, etc) for the distance you need it is better than a long travel couch that weighs a ton and allows you to carry a bunch of heavy shit you don't need that makes your bike even less capable offroad.

Adventure bikes are just touring bikes with an offroad "look".

For people whop actually want to adventure offroad, a lighter bike is the answer. Something like a DRZ or WR250.

The only decent bike KTM makes for this sort of stuff is the 690 enduro, and even that takes some work to get "adventure ready". It's light and has reasonable maintenance intervals and is capable offroad. Problem is they cost an arm and a leg and are known for reliability/durability issues.

A WR, while significantly less powerful will chug along forever on road and still be great off road. And you don't have to worry about it falling apart or eating itself mechanically like you would a 690.

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>>16330663
Is this like the "nobody ever uses their truck for truck things" things?

Sounds like you are jelly you can't afford an 1190R

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>>16330524
Best adventure bike

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>>16330663
nah, no one would leave the roads and go on trails in the desert on a pigfat bike

>>16330539
I have a nautilus horn, its 110Db.

You can always tell the retards that never really offroad because they put an overabundance of stock in a bikes power. People that actually ride offroad know power is often a liability. They also know quality suspension is the top priority.
As long as a DS can cruise at freeway speeds without falling apart it is fine in that department. Then it really comes down to its ability offroad and that comes down to travel, ground clearance, and quality of damping.

Both the WR and DRZ are fine on the highway. The WR is more comfortable because of its seat, smoother motor, and better suspension. Offroad the WR has better suspension and better gearing full stop. the DRZ is good and can be better with mods, but the WR takes the cake in every way. People complaining about the WR's lack of torque compared to the WR don't realize most MX bikes and enduros have powerbands exactly like the WR. Low torque and power all at the top of the rev range. Only bike like the DRZ, DR650, KLR650, etc typically have lazy high toque powerbands.

having ridden both and owned neither I can tell you guys the WR is more comfortable on and off road. The DRZ is a faster bike, but that doesn't matter. These aren't race bikes. The WR has plenty of power to get along.

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>>16330687
>laughing anime girls

>>16330594
Is that why they were too scared to let Ewan and Charlie use them?

They knew they couldn't take it and didn't let them use their bikes.

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>>16330688
Have you had a chance to play with the 805 yet? Wondering what you think about it compared to the Heidi

>>16330674
>guy rides his "adventure bike" on hard pack and posts a picture
>thinks he's adventuring

You just made my point.

>Is this like the "nobody ever uses their truck for truck things" things?
Trucks are capable of doing truck things. Whether their used for those things or not.
A pigfat "adventure bike" isn't capable of the things they are supposedly built for. They are essentially highway cruisers wwith ground clearance that can be taken on dirt roads.

No one takes one of these pigfat "adventure bikes" on any serious off road because they simply are not capable.
Anyone who know anything about offroading knows they need they lightest bike they can get by with.

>Sounds like you are jelly you can't afford an 1190R
If I wanted a touring bike I would buy a proper touring bike. Not a touring bike with a dirtbike appearance package.

>>16330710
>pls gib us 2 free top tier adventure bikes for our movie
>lolno
>LOL KTM WAS SCARED TO LET US USE THEIR BIKES

>>16330688
>another guy riding his touring bike onto some hard pack and claiming he's "offorading"

Hilarious.
I could literally ride my sport bike to that same spot.

>>16330714
>Hey let me stop during this difficult mart to take a picture
Sounds like you are just a shit rider m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCrawCrytS4

>>16330717
Look at all the free marketing that BMW got out of it and look at what "adv" bike is on top.

KTM knew their bikes wouldn't be up to it.

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After saving for months, I finally have the 3 grand I need for a bike.

Really want a late model Ninja 300 but I'll probably have to settle for a mid-2000s 250.

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>>16330711
not yet, i just got the XR out today since were going for a snow day tomorrow

>>16330720
so do it fgt

>>16330714
>Trucks are capable of doing truck things.
Like hauling 44 tonnes?

Unless you mean those """"trucks"""" that are glorified utes.

>>16330732
>here watch this promotional video of what some professionals were paid to do with my bike for promotional purposes.
>I could totally do this stuff instead of just riding my bike around on dirt roads if I wanted to.
>Why don't I? Oh because I can't pick up my 600lb bike if I dumped it, and I'm too scared to scratch it up.
>I like to just pretend I'm offroading.

If you really wanted to offroad you would have bought a real offroad capable DS.

try again tryhard.

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what fucking asshole does this jesus christ

>>16330737
Just get an older Japanese 600. GSXR 01-03 are a great generation

>>16330537
I want it.

>>16330750
There's a dealer in my town that totally spams the fuck out of the PRIVATE SELLERS ONLY section of my local craigslist with like 2 pages of bike ads.

>>16330738
Why? That's whhy I have a light DS. So i can ride to shit like that and much worse without worrying about dropping and scratching up a 500-600lb abomination with knobbies on it. I don't care if i drop it and it can go almost anywhere

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>>16330749
You said the bikes couldn't do it and that video proves you wrong.

I also have a dual sport, and a 2t dirt bike.

Git gud scrub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOqVzV-WtXI&t=45s

>>16330737
>>16330751
This but the GSXR a shit.

Find a CBR600F4i. They are solid bulletproof bikes on the cheap.

>>16330750
Is that anon's VTR250?

>>16330737
>3k
>ninja 250
You could get a far better bike at that price, or just buy a beat up ninja250 for $1250.

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>>16330749
>real DS
>tryhard
ok bro

>>16330765
He´s probably selling that money pit. Also he never rode it.

>>16330758
I have a "adv" bike and I don't give a shit about dropping it and picking it up is easy.

Maybe some of us buy a bike to ride and not look at.

>>16330770
I seen him post a few times then nothing. Maybe he ded?

>>16330763
>A paid professional can tear up his bike in this promotional video that means my bike is capable!
why don't you actually take your bike offroad then?
>Well it's too heavy and I don't want to scratch it and I'm scared because its not really an offroad bike.

You're making my point for me faggot. If your bike were actually an offroad bike you would use it as such. you don't. You roll around on dirt roads and pretend your offroading.

>>16330772
If hes selling his bike intact chances are hes not dead.

>>16330769
>posts webum with actual lightweight DS doing DS things.
>misses the point completely

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>>16330758
i have a light DS too, and a heavy DS to do other stuff, all of my bikes end up offroad and fucking about.
sorry if it triggers you that other people use bikes for things they arent intended for
sometimes i even take my dirtbikes on the street just for shits

>>16330778
>the other side is all rashed up and its his mum selling it

>>16330750
No kidding

An 88 VTR 250 for $2250? What a rip off.

>>16330785
He is most prob just a weak DYEL poorfag.

>>16330787
Post link.

>>16330796
it was a hypothetical.

>>16330776
But I do take it offroad anon.

Keep making excuses for being a shit rider though, no big deal

>>16330802
Yeah but i want to see the link

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>>16330524
Best speed record bike

>kept putting off taking my batter out of the bike
>snow flies
>its 10 degrees outside
Fuck... better go get it
>hit start button
>battery still has juice
Whew
>hands dont work because its so cold
>took longer than it should to remove
Fuck winter

Hey /dbt/ do you have any cool close call stories?

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CT110 BEST ADVENTURE BIKE

>LIGHT
>YOU DON'T NEED POWER APPARENTLY
>BUY A WHOLE NEW ENGINE FOR A FEW HUNDRED CLAMS

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>>16330819
C90 is better

>>16330823
thats a scooter

Guys, I've been leaning too much on my shitbike and [spoiler]having too much fun[/spoiler] how do I stop?

>>16330829
Lean further

>>16330829
apply more throttle

Is the FarRiders a thing in the usa?

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BEST RACING BIKE

>>16330844
>CTA

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best adv bike confirmed

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>tfw your stolen DRZ is found in Oakland
>OPD arrested the dude that had it
>cop told me it's damaged but they don't have any details
>going to pick it up tomorrow

Merry Christmas /dbt/!

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>>16330867
this means something worse is about to happen to you in the future.

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>>16330867
expect this

>>16330867
Oakland stole it,shouldn't have made fun of his mickey mouse mirrors on the cigbike.

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>>16330874
Wouldn't be the first time

>>16330874
That frame is too straight.

>>16330894
no I mean you will get the frame and only the frame

>>16330867
was it a nigger?

>>16330867
you ruined my christmas

>>16330899
of course you idiot, it's fucking oakland.

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>>16330899
>Oakland
What do you think?

>>16330905
>>16330906
r a c i s s

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>>16330899
Maybe, dunno.
I don't even care. If it's totally fucked I'll just rebuild it again like last time it was totally fucked.

>>16330905
Mexicans can also steal you fucking cuckboi
>>16330906
Could be. Theres nothing wrong with asking.

>>16330764
>gsxr a shit

Listen kid, I could write a literal 10 page paper on why the Suzuki GSX-R 600 01-03 generation was the most superior generation they ever released and why it mopped the fucking floor with the competition at the time.

But I'll just assume you're a troll.

>>16330911
Rebuild it and sell to drz spam anon.

>>16330905
is oakland a nigger?

>remove before flight
if i see another one of these i'm going to fucking kill someone

>>16330919
but we already own DR-Zs

>>16330925
Pretty sure hes white and a chef or something related.

>>16330929
>but we already own DR-Zs
you can another one for your wifes son.

>>16330917
Literally nobody uses that generation of GSXR anymore, yet the F4i is still popular as fuck.

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>>16330917
these retards heads are too full of reddit, don't bother. They just think of gsx-rs as "le squid bike" because reddit told them so and know nothing of the history of competition crushing the gsx-rs had during the first 1/2 of the 2000s

>>16330917
The CBR600F4i was the best 600 of that generation. Full stop. Evena fter the 600RR came out and they were selling the F4i with a banana seat it was a solid bike in the class.

Literally no one gives any shits about that generation gixxer 600.

the F4i is tops, Gixxer a shit.

I anxiously anticipate your 10 page paper of you trying to justify your poor purchase though. That will be entertaining.

>>16330839
It's a 125cc, the throttle is already at the max.

>riding in the rain
>it's really fucking pouring, visibility is poor and winds are high
>on the freeway going 50, following little shitbox in the slow lane to avoid puddle buildup
>out of nowhere he decides to slow down to 10mph in a 65 and then pull off to the tiny little space on the shoulder
>i'm fucking stuck behind him as moderate to heavy traffic goes on around us, whizzing by
>literally fucking pray that whoever comes up behind me is paying attention and not speeding because there is literally nowhere for me to go
i haven't been that pissed off while riding in a long time. felt tempted to take a mirror for the first time in a while

>>16330951
Thats because they were born in the 2000's

>>16330963
>he is actually trying to shill Honda

You can't make this shit up

>>16330979
i was born in '89 and gsx-r a shit. f4i a best

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>>16330981
w e w l a d is it honda time

>>16330911


Happy it's found... Maybe if I roll dubs in my next post it'll just be a broke tail light and a ripped up seat?

>>16330917
>03 generation
>dated compared to other jap bikes in 03

03 Yamaha released a new version or their R6
03 Honda blew the other 3 companies out of the water with their motogp inspired 600RR
03 Kawasaki redesigned their ninja and also released a new model the 636


read more about it here >http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2003/07/article/2003-supersport-shootout/

>>16330987

Forgot to post with my name...

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>>16330919
But Anon, I am the original DRZ spammer. Pretty sure I had a DRZ before anyone here that still posts regularly.

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tfw no advice for things I can do to my DT125R

>>16330981
The only good honda is the CT110

>>16331001
sell it and get a wr450

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>>16331014

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>>16331013
yes

there's incredibly loud, obnoxious music that's been playing for an hour now and i don't know where it's coming from. i fucking hate living in the city

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I really really really hate you /dbt/.

This is the worst quality it's ever been at, period.

I'm taking a break.

>>16330995
What was the meme bike before the SV650?

>>16331053
Ninja 250

>>16330981
>butthurt Honda made a good bike

Not my problem bro.

Now Yamaha makes the best 600.

Suzuki's 600 is still unnotable.

Shill shitzuki's elsewhere.

>>16331050
I couple months ago when Harleyspammer was in literally every thread dumping pics was the worst.

>>16331041
It's me. I'll put on some Ice Cube next.

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>>16331054
Oh I thought the Ninja 250 was after the SV but before the GS500

>>16331061
hell no, there was actual discussion around the spamming before.

Now there's nothing.

>>16331074
Well it's winter in most of the places that matter, what do you expect? /dbt/ is always worse in the winter.

>>16331069
Pretty sure it GS500 was always a thing, but didn't get annoyingly frequent until after the Ninja, and the SV650 people started getting loud because they were annoyed by the GS500 and Ninja people arguing.
>Ninja 250
>then GS500
>then SV650
>now DRZ for some reason

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>>16331088
What'll be next? 80s Katana 600?

The SV is the only one of those worth a damn

>>16331094
And its still a slow pigfat turd.

>>16331094
It will be the F4i.

>>16331105
compared to a fucking rocket ship maybe.

>>16331094
Only a DRZ500 can usurp the DRZ400. The prophecy is retold every year on Suzuki forums across the internet. It's said to make more power and have EFI and six gears.

Really though, I have no idea. Don't even know why the DRZ suddenly caught on. Maybe Grom/Z125 will start to become available on the used market and that will be the next thing.

>>16331110
>Grom/Z125 will start to become available on the used market and that will be the next thing.
i'm actually okay with that. i find it fucking hilarious watching people ride groms around town, even if i'd never in a million fucking years own one myself

>>16331108
The FZ07 destroys it.
Suzuki a shit

>>16331114
>for significantly more money

You can pick up a SV650 for next to nothing and they are great bikes.
Decent power, decent suspension, decent chassis, etc.

I've seen the FI ones sell for as little as $1200.

If you want more speed with a capable chassis/suspension the next step up in price would be an F4i

>>16331120
>used
Then the FZ6 destroys it
Suzuki still a shit

>>16331120
or you can just spend money upgrading the suspension. the chassis is still going to be made of spaghetti compared to more modern bikes, but let's be real, that's only really a consideration for people who are really wringing the ever-living shit out of their bikes in a competent manner. this is /dbt/ we're talking about here

>>16331122
FZ6 is garbage and more expensive.
F4i is better for less money.

>>16331112
>i'd never in a million fucking years own one myself
If I hadn't decided to shell out for the 701 I would have gone and gotten a Z125.
>ride to work
>bring into office
>keep it under my desk

>>16331127
you'd probably get bored of the novelty factor. i know i would, at least.

>>16331133
I bought a second Ninja 250.

>>16331127
Supermotos are so cheap that the Grom just doesn't make any sense to me from a practical standpoint.

For ~$3000 you can get a WR250X that is highway capable, has much better suspension, and is capable of all the same fuckaround antics as the Grom plus more that the Grom isn't capable of.

Maybe when there is a Grom used market that isn't asking more than MSRP they'll start making sense. I might pick one up if they were $1500. but no way I'm paying twice that for one.

>>16331139
yeah if i could have a stable of bikes i might consider one but that's not in the cards for me right now. even then, i'd probably just get something else, or even a truck so i could haul my bike to the track and back.

>>16331094
>says the dirt bike skiddie

>>16331158
he's right though

>>16331160
he has no idea though

>>16331139
or for $2300 you could get a DR-Z400S and have a highway capable, trail ready dual sport that is better

>>16331166
The drz is a pile of shit.
The wr250 is better
Only beat to shit DRZs are cheap.
Just stop man.

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>>16331163
No u

>>16331166
>>16331175
DRZ is better.

>>16331186
indeed

>>16331175
wrong.

I like how everyone is all hot and bothered for a DR-z400 and I'm the only one who knows the full glory of a DR380 bored to 440....

I mean DR350

>>16331201
can you really bore a DR350 that big without any repercussions? How much powa?

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>commuting on dr350 erryday
went for a little longer ride after work
>hit 7777mi on odo
>too cold to stop and take pic

>>16331201
>>16331201
>dr350
my nigga
i'm fully content with stock
please start petition for suzuki to bring it back

>>16331208
they build more heat but jetting and not being a retard deals with that just fine.

>tfw no dr650 punched out to 780cc

>>16331201
>DR380
You mean 350?
You can only bore and stroke a DRZ to 480, so I'm not sure I believe that. Though air cooled so maybe a thicker block...

>>16331188
>>16331198
See
>>16330318
Fucking delusional suzuki fags

>>16331201
The full glory of rebuilding it at least once per season?

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>>16331208
Yes, actually. There are some pretty high hurdles to jump when you bore the shit out of your cylinder. The oil passages get perilously close to the chamber and you run the chance of either oil getting into the cylinder or combustion blowing into the oil. Or both depending on how miserable you are. Pic related

>>16331214
Boring any 650 up any higher, you're gonna have a harder time getting a larger combustion. All that surface area, seriously.

>>16331211
YEEES BROTHER. BRING IT BACK. IT'S AN AMAZING MACHINE!

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>>16331214
The blue DR in this pic was a 780, too bad the rider was an old slow guy

>>16331166
WR has better suspension/chassis, lighter, is better on the highway (smoother, 6th gear, better suspension), handles better on and off road(suspension chassis), gets better gas mileage, and requires less maintenance.

DRZ just makes more torque and has like 5 horsepower more.
Also, DRZ's are typically more expensive because off the meme tax. I don't see DRZ's in my area for less then $4000 but I see WR's for $2500-3000 all time time.

>>16331250
but those are water jackets not oil passages.

>>16331230
>DRZ400SM makes 9 more HP than WR250R
>which is 40% more
>DRZ make 9 more TQ
>which is 60% more
>DRZ has way more aftermarket
>DRZ is cheaper

>>16331264
Also DRZ can make almost 50hp reliably, more if you wanna dump money into it

>>16331264
>things that are false
And have been proven so in this very thread

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>>16331264
>DRZ400SM makes 9 more HP than WR250R
This is wrong.
DRZ400SM has the same motor as the DRZ400S. See pic.

>>16331270
Then you would just buy a wr450 and have 50hp with free mods.
And still be cheaper

>>16331256
nah

>>16331217
Dude. It was a typo. Look at my post right under it.

>>16331258
The DR is not liquid cooled. Those are oil returns from the head.

>>16331264
>which is 40% more
This is also wrong.

The DRZ makes 15% more power than the WR250R.

WR250R
>29hp at the crank claimed
>~27hp at the wheel

DRZ400
>34hp at the crank claimed
>32hp at the wheel

Try again tryhard.

>>16331284
Don't expect the kockasukifags to know anything

>>16331276
I agree a WR450 will easily outperform a DRZ, but I'm talking about the 250 which is most often compared.

Also, the WR has to be converted to be street legal, which can be a pain in the ass depending on what state you live in. I almost bought a modded WR426 to replace my DRZ, but after a test ride decided it wasn't worth it. I assume the 450 is a good bump better than the 426, so maybe I would have jumped on that.

>>16331286
http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/616098-wr250r-vs-drz400-what-is-each-bikes-stock-hp/?p=6003531

>>16331294
I just posted a dyno chart for you.

DRZ makes less than 5 hp more than the WR.

>citing a forum post

Evening fellas

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>>16331313

>>16331276
Oh we're comparing bikes from a completely different class now? You could buy a GSX-R1000 and make 150+hp stock while being more reliable

>>16331323
So I sold the vstrom and I've been debating what bike I want next. I was choosing between a hayabusa and a wr450 supermoto. I think I'm leaning now more towards the wr.

>>16331330
>not buying a goldwing and making huge TORKS while being literally bulletproof

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>>16331342
I almost bought one a few months ago

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>>16331333
Fijjer

>>16331313
KYS

>>16331333
FUCK OFF NOBIKE

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Alright dbt how to unbending?

>>16331348
>F6B
good taste. i can see myself on one of those when my wrists and back finally tell me they're fucking sick of sportbikes

>>16331333
Get both.
WR would be more fun in CO I'd imagine though, so get that first.

>>16331313
New cummies when

>>16331364
>clamp in vice at bend
>apply pry bar
>???

>>16331364
Hammer and anvil.

>>16331364
you need an industrial sized tub of astro-glide and a strict regimen of kegels

>>16331330
>different class
Lol i guess the drz is classed with 250s

>>16331362
Awwww, did someone shit in your cereal this morning? Here, have a picture of my tarantula to make you feel better

>>16331396
Looks just like your bike! LMAO

>>16331366
oh no i have no interest in an f6b actually. I just downloaded that to btfo harleyfags. If I bought a wing I think I would go for a GL1500 Aspencade. The fully faired ones with built in luggage are the only ones that make sense to me.

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>>16331396
Lol whoops

so who's crashed and died in the last month?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V12PyzBLZr4

>>16331400
i just like the banana seat. i'll realistically never take anyone on the back of the full-accoutrement goldwing so it'd feel a little goofy, although i suppose that seat would be pretty nice for extra storage. could probably tie down a big backpack there or something.

doesn't hurt that the f6b is cheaper as well

>>16331403
bets on what the first guy on the dirtbike broke? pelvis and collarbone?

>>16331401
you gonna cum on it?

>>16331402
me

>>16331423
don't play with my heart like that

>>16331395
It is.

>>16331413
I was getting on the ferry with a guy that had an 80s goldwing once, the thing looked max comfy, and had all kinds of amenities than most bikes today don't have

>>16331440
My dead grandpa rode an 80's goldwing.

He was an asshole.

You're a faggot.

>>16331440
>goldwing
The rideable arm chair...

>>16331462
pls tell me were your grandpa touched you

>>16331474
this

I have a fetish

>>16331474
>were
>it's "where" you illiterate fuckhole.

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>>16331466

>>16331483
Wanna know how I know you're a newfag?

>>16331483
post raep story

>>16331495
Want to know how I fucked your mum in the arsehole and your lazyshit lump of uselessness rolled out of her bum nine months later?

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>>16331491

>>16331474
>>16331481
>>16331503
I don't remember exactly when this started happening, but he started putting his hands down my pants and just touched the top of my down stairs area. I always got really uncomfortable and got up from his lap, and walked away. He would start screaming and yelling at me telling me I didn't love him thats why i walked away. At first, I just thought thats what grandpas were supposed to do. I've never had a grandpa around full time. My mom was always at work, never really. Trying to support us financially. He would always give me baths. This was when i was around 7 or 8. One day, I remember he came into my room while i was getting dressed and i don't remember what e had exactly said, but he "Wanted to show me what was going on down stairs". He put a mirror up to my vagina, and started touching it. He even told me it was good to massage your breasts once in a while and demonstrated on me once or twice. I started getting really uncomfortable around him. One day he started going farther than usual, and i got up and started screaming at him (I was around 10 or 11 now) He got up and started chasing me around the house. Threatening to kill me. I ran into the bathroom, trying to lock and shut the door and he came in, and wrapped his hands around my throat and choked me. I tried to push him, but he was in the Navy and he was very strong. He flung me to the floor with great force and i sat there and cried. He got in his car and drove off. I called my mom and told her he had got into his car and drove off for no reason. I didn't want her to know he hurt me. Me and him always got into verbal fights so it was a usual thing to do for her, solve things between me and him. She called him and he said he was gonna drive his car into a wall and kill himself. Eventually that all got resolved and then he acted like nothing had happened. That was the end of that. My cousins would sometimes come visit us over break and he did the same thing to them too.

>>16331506
go brush your teeth ya smelly pommie cunt

>>16331474
>>16331481
>>16331503
>>16331517

Most of that year is a blur to me. But, mid october my cousin told her older sister what was going on and she called their dad (my uncle) and his wife called CPS. Me and my mom were at the grocery store when we got him there were CPS people waiting in our driveway. They talked to my mom then they took me and her down to the CPS place. It was horrid. After 4 years my mom found out. Like this. I don't know why i didn't tell her. He went to jail and they were working on the case. I went into the sexual therapy but it wasn't any help. I was just numb and oblivious to it all. For some reason, they dropped the case. He got out of jail. There were some day i felt bad. I felt like i did this to him. Then there were days i wanted to just shoot him in the head. Just about a month ago, i finally opened up to my mom saying i wanted him in jail. I didn't want anyone else to go through this. They opened up the case again, and here we are. He's in jail now. Im now 13. Im just so numb about everything. I feel like he did this to me. Every time he would touch me I just shut out every feeling so i wouldn't get uncomfortable and walk away so he wouldn't hit me or choke me. Im just so numb i couldn't even talk to my therapist about it. I cant sort out my feelings. I just sit here. Like a zombie. Not knowing what to do and/or feel. I need help. I also think he might have raped me? But, I don't remember it.

>>16331517
iCame

>>16331517
TITS OR GTFO

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>>16331514
What'd you end up getting for it?

I want the one with the huge fairing though.

And maybe a sidecar for pups

>>16331517
>>16331521
He didn't even fuck you, you are an attention whore.

Sodomize yourself with barbed wire.

>>16331535
I bet he got bummed for it.

>>16331537
newfag detected.

get out.

>>16331330
How is the WR450 a completely different class of bike, it's sold street legal pretty much everywhere except for the USA. It's a fucking dual sport.

>>16331543
>loser who spends all of his time on 4chan

LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEC-AanEl5Q

get your required monthly viewing in today

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>>16331333
You're in Colorado and want a busa, oh hell no.

>>16331535
I let it go for $500 without fixing anything on it. That's what I paid, and I crashed it and it developed on oil leak, so great success.

>>16331545
>it's sold street legal pretty much everywhere except for the only place that matters