HOT HATCHERY

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which is the greatest hot hatch of all time

>>16309692
lancia delta integrale

>smugface.jpg

>>16310133
pigfat

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>>16310140
k

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>>16310133
>>16310229
>poorly built mazdaspeed3
>poorly built exploding rear diff
No thanks

>>16310235
gen3 ms3 wen?

>>16309692
Diesel Punto

For real though, because I like my hot hatches small and fun, maybe an R53 works GP, or a Clio 182 Trophy if you really need rear seats

>>16310253
Mazda said they aren't planning to make one because it's childish
>>16310235
>doesn't exist

>>16310379
>lying on the internet
Son

>>16310258
>>16310235
>>16310229
>>16310133
these are not hot hatches
hot hatches have 3 doors, not 5.

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>>16310235
>poorly built
>RS

pick one, and only one

>>16310815
Hot hatch (shortened from hot hatchback) is a high-performance derivative of a car body style consisting of a three- or five-door hatchback automobile. The performance upgrades of a hot hatch are sometimes available for the estate variant of the car, often called sportwagons.
Hot hatch - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hot_hatch_hackersafe]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_hatch

>>16310834
ye, officially.
but nobody really considers 5 door cars hot hatches.
hot hatches are meant to be small.

>>16310855
by nobody, do you mean just you?

>>16309667
>hot hatch
>posts a fucking clio

Wow good job posting a shit example of a "hot" hatch.

>>16310855
>the 3 door fiesta is smaller then the 5 door

>>16309667
nobody considers a 3-door a hot hatch

>>16310816
>failing turbo
>failing brakes
>failing trans
>failing diff
>ford product that wasnt even designed by ford
No yeah its a great car

>>16311334
none of the things you said have happened

>>16311334
kek keep trying

>>16311385
>>16311390
>cant read
Yup found the ford fans

>>16311408
fake news

>>16311408
>>16311334
>>16310140
found the mazda fanboi

>>16309667
I didn't know about this hatch, we don't get many reno's in AU unfortunately. Gave me an insta-semi

>>16309667
senpai

>>16311677
clio's are the best, performance wise, of the reasonably priced hot hatches, even better than the golfs.
though they guzzle fuel something awful (my clio 197 would average 20mpg, and go as low as 10mpg when pushed), and the interior and ride are both spartan.
but ye, their performance to price ratio is unreal.
you can get a low mileage clio 200 for under £5k here in the uk, and they come with brembos, recaros and a fucking sick chassis as standard.

>>16310235
>mazdaspeed 3
>speed
>3
no

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say what you will

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drove one of these today, damn fun

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>>16309692
32 years old and still the unmatched king.

>>16312549
I agree though, GTI's are fun.

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Do not-that-hot hatches with a very hot engine swap count? This one's one of my favorite Twingo builds ever (besides that obvious crazy V8 one)

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>>16313901
That's a Clio 172 engine, by the way.

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>>16313907
you know they do a sport version of the twingo, right?

the twingo 133
it's a pretty nice little car.

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>>16310275
YOUR BASE IS UNDER ATTACK

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>>16313959
I know the RS exists, but they never made an RS version of the 1st gen. The most it ever got from the factory was a 75hp 1.2l 16V engine.

I like the RS for being one of the last NA hot hatches, like the Swift Sport.

>>16311385

>After a few laps, something started whining in the back of the car as I slid through the apexes. A few corners later the sound was gone . . . along with my all-wheel drive. The rear differential had suddenly just stopped working. The car was much better in front-wheel drive than I expected, but there was a lot of wheel spin exiting the corners while aggressively putting power down.


The rear drive unit has overheated and went out on several

>>16313907
isn't the twingo a 65/35 weight ratio?
That's gonna help...

>>16311063
>200hp
>Cup Chassis
YEah mate, real shit

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Probably the best FF car in the 00's for tuneability and handling. While the Fiesta ST and Civic Si's use torsion beams, these are completely independent. 3100 Lbs sounds too heavy, but they handle very well for the weight they carry, and the aftermarket is huge. Also, a geared LSD in the front helps a lot with understeer, wheel spin, and torque steer.

Mazda did well with the speed3, wish they could release an AWD one sometime. Something like the MS6, where the haldex in it even split torque 50/50 under acceleration.

>>16309692
i like my gf's mini cooper s

>>16314513
>Probably the best FF car in the 00's for tuneability and handling
maybe in the american market, sure.
there are much better options available in EU.

>>16309673
this

as a fiat driver it puzzles me how other manufacturers charge about 50% more for their hot hatch compared to the base model

even the cheapest 1.3l diesel punto is a hot hatch as standard

>>16314513
I cross shopped this and a supercharged mini cooper s for a 2nd car. I ended up buying the mini.

>>16315553
/thread

>>16317576
>>16317580
those are coupes, senpai.

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postan my mild hatch

>>16318521
It looks angry

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been looking at these. budget is 6k USD or under, been seeing a few from 2010-2013 in my range with like 70k miles on them. are these complete shit?

>>16319080
Definitely not a hot or warm hatch, but elantras are your average commuter car. Comfy, economical, but handles like shit with no power to boot.

Would a Toyota Celica count as a hot hatch?

>>16315586

dipshit

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>>16315553
>>16310289
>diesel fiat
Mjet pls

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>tfw no hot Volvos in your area

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while not exactly something that fits in with the twingo, swift and focus, does the corolla TS/Runx/TSport (three names for one and the same car) cout as well?

>>16311063
>talking shit, the post

>>>/o/

>>16319722
the Diesel Punto was the first Diesel car to win rallye

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>>16315553
>13.2 seconds to 60 mph
>Hot hatch

>>16313881
I own a 2004... I love it... I used to own an SN95 mustang... It had more torque but man, my GTI is just way more fun to drive.

>>16319817
> Implying that isn't godlike for a 1.3

>>16309667
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dicksucc

>>16319885
While that may be true it doesn't make it hot in any sense of the word

>>16319900
it's pretty hot for a diesel
show me a better diesel hot hatch
go ahead, I'll wait.

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>>16319985
>he doesn't know about the Golf GTD and its Seat/Octavia brethren

>>16319993
Seat/Skoda brethren*

>>16319985
But slow cars cannot be hot hatches

Therefore there are no diesel hot hatches.

>>16310855
So... why are you just making shit up?

>>16313044
lol, fiestas are fucking golf carts.

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http://www.motoring.com.au/toyota-hot-hatch-coming-54807/

yaris hot hatch?

>>16319993
I said a better diesel hot hatch

>>16320017
>top speed is everything
hurr durr muh oval racing

>>16314130
>>16319790
200bhp and a "cup" chassis doesn't make up for the fact the Clio is a terrible car all round.

>>16323551
Would be class if it happened.

>>16323551
there already is a yaris hot hatch
yaris t sport or something
it's shit.

>>16319781
Yeah, IMO it does. In South Africa we had the RunX RSI, 1.8l 2ZZ-GE. It's basically the same class as the EP3 type R but more sleeper like. I always wanted one but the chassis just isn't that great and not worth putting money into.

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>>16309667
No Subaru love?
Thanks to VW's dieselgate I just bought my dad's 08 STI hatchback. It's a hell of a lot of fun

>>16309692
OP is

>>16325074
is it fuck

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In it's time this was pretty hot. Yes it's shit spec, but still puts out pretty well. 100kw from factory, doesn't weigh much more than 850kg.

>>16318521
how does BTEK work?

put android auto on my FiST yesterday

shit's pretty cash

>>16323714
>I said a better diesel hot hatch
And he gave you a good, valid answer.

>>16309692
>implying the RS cosworth ever had any competition

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>>16309667
who /warmhatch/ here

>>16327807
Did you get it in the 2.0L Petrol?

>>16327857
yeah, twincam

>>16310815
>Hatchback
>HATCH

It's not called a 2-side-door-rear-door-hatchback anon.

>>16319885
erm I have a rotting shitbox 1.2 corsa on my drive that get's to 60 faster than that and the things fucking shite.

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should I?


https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Volvo-C30-d1043#listing=153357969

>>16313595
Damn this car was fucking godlike

>>16327943
C30 aint a hot hatch, more like warm hatch.. It got the terrible steering and suspension.

>>16313595
indeed the absolute god hot hatch. My dad owns a v6 swapped 306 maxi. It's just so so good. Even though the whole interior feels old everything else still feels so perfect.

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>>16313959
133 owner, love it.

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Should I get a 2005 golf 5...

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>>16329714
a 2005 shoe...

>>16329718
or a 2006 box
this looks like a van desu

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>>16329722
forgot pic

>>16319872
I own a 2003, it's really damn fun, but I am going to do an AWD conversion, the whp threshold is about 300 on it, anymore and you will have to start running wide as fuck track tires.

>>16313563
Just brought one, I get an erection when schoolgirls check me out in this.

>>16329718
Shoe imo

>>16329714
Get the BMW if you want more fun. I own a golf 5, its a smooth drive but not very sporty.

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>>16309704
mah afroamerican friend
I'll take an edizione finale

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>they don't know about the scirocco

>>16332764
What about it? Besides the part of looking fast, yet its a fat slower ver of a golf..

>>16323714
Never said anything about top speed

Diesels cant accelerate well

>>16332857
>literally torks for days
> can't accelerate

>people pay E class money for quick grocery getters

>>16310258
Fuck, i want one so bad.

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>>16332872

>people pay M class money for soccer mom suvs

>>16332884
>people buy an e class

>>16332861
>13.4 seconds to 60

Torque doesn't mean shit

>No 3 door option for Fiesta ST in Burgerland

Having two extra doors comes in handy for me, I guess :^(

>>16327902
>what did he mean by this

>>16332927
They only released a 5door option in the UK this year. Seems strange not to offer a 3door over there as well

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>>16334266
>it's my nigga again
ayy Texas man

>tfw only slightly microwaved hatch

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>>16319775

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>>16334266
Yassss

>>16334280
That thing isnt hot without my loads in it

>>16309692
>best hot hatch of all time
Renault 5 Turbo
>best pre-modern hot hatch
EK9 Civic Type R
>best modern hot hatch
BMW M135i