Are automatic gearboxes basically just for women?

Fuck off with your garbage-tier bait thread

T. Manual driver

>>16300653
Yes, it's for lazy people.
>mfw the people that defend automatics can't even afford a car where DCT is faster than the manual version

>>16300659
>t. lying woman

>>16300653
and people that just need to deal with traffic between points A and B

I bet you have a handlebar moustache too

>>16300653
Yes. And old people.

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>>16300653
You must have a lot of insecurities to get satisfaction from bragging about shifting your own gears like a caveman.

Slushbox or DCT?

Slushbox yes

A DCT or some other autoclutch system is better for laptimes, but what good are laptimes when you slowly edge out driver skill? Cars stop being fun and start being status symbols. And no, I'm not talking about F1 where it's a minimal hit to the value of the sport. GT car racing, amateur series, and rally come to mind.

and then benchracers argue about which status symbol they would rather own before dying before and alone

actually yes

in the late 80s-early 90s about 25% of all new cars sold in america were manual (aka standard), in 2015 that number dropped to like 4%

society has been highly feminized since then and now women influence something like 80% of new car purchases

car companies know this and so they cater to women, which is why BMW now makes like 10 "SAVs" and the forester has been turned into a shitty crossover with a CVT

>>16300659
Cuck detected. Come back when you actually know how to drive a car.

>Manualfags so btfo they keep attacking Autofags
The superior tech won faggots

>auto for dd
>manual for weekend fun car

This is the superior way to live

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>>16300653
>Live in "car city" Stuttgart of Germany.
>All highways are clogged
>Regular streets are clogged because somebody somewhere always fucks up and bumps into another car
>traffic lights everywhere
>in order to turn you have to drive 4km further down a road with an endless amount of traffic lights

I don't mind using stick on an open road, but here everything else than automatic is just retarded.

>>16301215
this nigga woke as fuck

>>16301218
do germans even have car culture?

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>>16301225
What do you mean by "car culture" specifically?

>>16301241
Aftermarket/Tuner scene?

>>16300728
>implying you need skill to drive stick

>>16301243
From what I've seen, they're incredibly anal about keeping their cars stock, cause "muh superior engineering" and such, but that's not a catch all and I'm sure there are lots of people who modify their cars, just not nearly as much as somewhere like America or Japan. In general though, I've gathered that they look down on people modding their cars.

>>16301243
Sure that exists. Although it's mostly for car nerds. Chiptuning is well known but only enthusiasts do it.
>>16301256 got it right.

>>16301256
That sucks.

As a aussie i rarely see a stock car unless its 5years old or newer.

Ill miss Factory Tuning shops like Tickford, FPV and HSV though those where the golden days of motoring in this country.

>>16301218
>if i don't like it/can't do it anyone else who likes it has something wrong with them

It's not that hard. Stop projecting your incompetence. It makes everyone else look pretentious when they point out how stupid you are.

>>16301255
>in the context of motorsport
>implying you need skill to drive a stick and still get good lapt times
yes, you do

anyone can grannyshift their way around town. not many can shift competently in a race setting.

>>16300653

No. Automatics are for anyone who does not want to spend more effort than is necessary on driving, such as people who drive for work, old people, women and so on. Basically automatics are for anyone who's not a boyracer.

With an automatic you can have a cup of coffee on the way to work in the morning.

>>16301265
>>16301256
>They're incredibly anal about keeping their cars stock

This anon is correct but it's for a very specific reason. The german auto inspections (at least since I was last there in the 80s) literally tear the car apart from top to bottom and they do not tolerate shoddy worksmanship. The penalties for violating the regulations are apparently severe and a lot of these people don't have the money to shell out to fix their cars if they fail inspection (apparently if they tear the car down and find a fault, they will just fail it, write it off and give the torn-apart car back to the owner and say "fix it or do not drive"). It's a fucked situation but I don't know how true this is going on 30 years.

>>16301287
Oh wew I thought it was more the people, I know the government there is nofunallowed but I didnt know it was to that degree. Fucking glad I didn't go there for college.

>>16301277
if you are doing anything but driving you are endangering other people

but if you suck at stick you are also endangering other people

we should tape peoples hands to their steering wheels

>>16301287
>end result isn't anything but increased auto sales
>that zip tied intake hose was meaningless but fuck you here's a bin of parts buy a new VW

brilliant

>>16301324
>here's a bin of parts

Apparently they're not even that nice. You bring the car to inspection, they tear it down, if they find the fault, they come out with a clipboard and say "You have to remove your car from our inspection bay" and if you were particularly unlucky (like an obviously broken part that involves extensive teardown) then they would just foist it on you instead of wasting the work hours on rebuilding your car. The end result is an obstinate insistence on stock cars simply for the ease of passing inspection and providing the least trouble with mechanics (whose parts cost more and must be OEM).

>>16301298

Hope thats an ugly womans hand and leg, because if you're a man and you haven't got a single hair on your leg, i feel bad for you son.

>>16301298

this is why cruise control was invented

>>16301342
no retard, I just googled 'drive with foot out window'

>>16301277
>people who drive for work cannot ever actually want to enjoy driving
>actually wanting to have fun while you drive makes you a boyracer

What a silly claim.

Nope. More and more people in Europe are changing to automatic transmission because of how confortable and superior these are.

No. You are not Schumacher because your shit FIAT has a manual transmission and no, you are not a better driver than someone with an automatic transmission.

Manuals are just the typical "it's always been done like this, so why change?" bullshit, most of the people I know that refuse to drive automatics are usually machos with an inferiority complex.

While you fags are fucking up your transmissions by constantly changing gears in the congestions of Europe, here I am in Bern driving my Passat without a single cramp on my fucking legs.

Fuck you.

>>16301367
It's a godsend in the winter honestly

And I'm happy to not be some faggot with a weak constitution that actually gets a sore leg and some sort of mental fatigue from shifting

reasons to drive auto
>muh laptimes (who fucking cares)
>muh mpgees (fuck the planet i have money)
>being crippled and/or retarded (aka you)

Weren't automatics actually advertised specifically towards women? As in, I'm not trolling, I remember reading about this somewhere.

>>16301389
yeah.

women and old people.

then it caught on with weak beta cuckbois with the total leg strength of a newborn and gross motor skills of an epileptic koala

>>16300653
Give me one reason to pay more for a car that takes more effort to drive. Financially, automatic transmissions just make more sense.

I would never have a manual in my plow truck, fuck that shit

>>16300653
I used to eat McDonalds hotcakes while I drove down the highway in my manual R31, using the knife and fork and everything. Manual didn't stop me from doing anything.
Now I own an auto. Autos make driving big, torquey engines more comfortable. I like it better off road to.. when I see mates with manual 4x4s looking for quickshifters I think, why bother? Autos just work.

If you think your transmission in any way defines your masculinity, you are a sad, sad little man.

>>16301406
>Financially, automatic transmissions just make more sense.
>More complicated
>more expensive
>less fuel efficient so more money
>more expensive to repair
>break down more often than manuals

Explain to me how an automatic is NOT a bad financial decision made by stupid and lazy people.

>>16301445
>If you think your transmission in any way defines your masculinity, you are a sad, sad little man.
See, this completely ignores the fact that the entire reason automatics even exist is because of women
Oldsmobile invented automatic transmissions in the late 30's/early 40's when they received numerous complaint letters from women bitching about how hard it was to drive a manual car in high heels

So to answer OP's question, YES, automatics are basically just for women.

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>>16301455
>>More complicated
So? That's what mechanics are for.
>>more expensive
Not from my experience.
>>less fuel efficient so more money
Who fucking cares? It's not a big difference.
>>more expensive to repair
My transmission won't vomit itself onto the highway from a single mis-shift.
>>break down more often than manuals
Grasping at straws now.

>>16301383
Manuals get better MPGs if you know what the fuck you are doing.

>>16301457
>Not from my experience.
they're more expensive as an option over manual versions

>Who fucking cares? It's not a big difference.
Yes it is. Case in point the 2011-2015 Chevrolet Cruze Eco.
http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=31377&id=31315
That's a decent gap

>My transmission won't vomit itself onto the highway from a single mis-shift.
Well then stop being retarded.

>grasping at straws now
and how many new Nissans and Hondas these days go in for complete automatic transmission replacements under warranty before 30k these days?
Pro-tip: WAY too many.

Keep cross-dressing tranny

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>>16301465
>muh manuals are cheaper
>we have a 2 mpg difference
>I like more work for less reward

>>16301469
>>we have a 2 mpg difference
check those real world figures below. The gap is larger than the ratings.

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>>16301472
>literally 4 mpg difference justifies a more expensive car

>>16301481
>misreads 5.3 MPG difference as 4 MPG difference
someone can't read. WHy should I trust you on anything if you can't do simple math

And that's a 5.3 MPG difference on average. If you go by minimums, it's an even larger 7 MPG difference.

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>>16301489
>it's 1.3 more mpg than you said

>>16301497
>making excuses for illiteracy
Trump's America everyone!

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>>16301504
>implying that Trump won't bring back all our auto jobs
>implying that all cars won't be legally required automatic
I'm running out of keks

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>>16301521
>believing anything that comes out of Trump's mouth
Enjoy your disappointment.

This is the product if you let children drive in the us (16 year old)

Seriously. When will you raise it to 18? Maybe for once you start to get good cars again and no 79 million crashes a day

>>16301527
>t. Californian

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>>16301530
wrong side of the country buddy.

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>>16301546
>he's a wannabe Masshole

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It sure made motorsport shitty.

>>16301557
>wannabe
I'm a halfblood. My mother was from Winchendon.

i dunno, i'm a woman and i have both

>>16301560
Stop confusing automated manuals for slushboxes.

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>>16300665
so just a woman?

>>16300653

No, its also for people who are not auto-nerds. What is it like to spend friday evenings working on your corola anyway?

>>16301399

I feel so sorry for your huge inferiority complex

Fact is that a manual in inner-city, stop-and-go traffic is less convenient than an automatic. This might not be a big deal for you if you also like to have fun, but arguing with that is literally fucking insane. And there is nothing lazy or incompetent about not liking to be inconvenienced with unnecessary and outdated bullshit like having to shift your own gears.

>>16301287
Jesus fuck thats insane

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>>16301256
>they're incredibly anal about keeping their cars stock

Good. 95% of all mods are distasteful shite that at best slashes reliability to below-BYD levels for little or no benefit.

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no

>>16301653
Yes

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>>16301218
>2016
>attempting to drive a car into the city of Stuttgart

KEK. Apparently you've got a couple of hours to spare

>>16301287
>'tearing the car down and giving it back in bits'

Stop lying nigger.

They check brakes, lights, wheels and suspenion for wear, plug in an OBD II reader to check for codes and look for rust. Nothing to tear apart here.

Just like they do inspections in every other deceloped country. There's a lot of paperwork involved if you're modding your car with more than just bolt-ons, though.

>>16301463

>what is CVT

>>16302067
>what are 600 mile transmission replacements

>>16301406
It's more fun to drive

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>tfw a computer selects the next gear in mere milliseconds while stick rowing caveman haven't even had a synapse fire

Automagic is the best feeling

>>16301832

It really depends a lot on the individual doing the control. I've passed shitters that should have been disposed of, and failed with cars that are pretty much mint.

>Can't use aftermarket airfilters or exhaust without TÜV approval.
>Can't use non-stock offset on wheels.
>Can't use non-stock suspension components without TÜV.
>Can't increase horsepower without DEKRA approval.
>Can't use non-stock steering wheel.
>Can't use non-stock seats.
+++

>>16302113
except for when you're stuck in a traffic jam which is about 99% of what most people do anymore

>>16301225
last i checked, they actually had a higher car ownership rate than america.

>>16301457
>>>break down more often than manuals
>Grasping at straws now.
MRS in sat is categorized as "DO NOT BUY EVER" since they love to shit the bed covered with very expensive silken sheets

>>16300653
No, men can also be disabled as well also.

I'm a european with a automatic only license because I'm disabled in my right arm and it kills me on how much cars I have to miss out on.

Manuals are only better than the old automatics (ones with four or less gears). Modern automatics offer better acceleration and gas mileage than a manual. The only reason /o/ thinks manuals are better is because they drive 20+ year old shitboxes, and also they think they are superior for knowing a "skill" that any retard can learn in an afternoon.

>>16301399
Lmao

>>16301504
>bringing politics into /o/

stop being so butthurt you faggot

>full-size trucks only come in automatic (except the RAM 2500)

why though? I don't see why towing would require an automatic transmission if 18-wheelers have manual transmissions and tow way more

>>16302366
it doesn't make sense but only americans want full-size trucks anyway. good luck doing actual offroading in an automatic.

>>16302366
>18-wheelers have manual transmissions
A majority of new class 8 trucks are equipped with an automated transmission. There is no clutch pedal.

>>16301472
>Auto average based on 6 vehicles
>Manual average based on 18 vehicles

They couldn't even base it on an equal number of vehicles..

>>16301762
this.
the only aftermarket parts i accept on my cars are lighter rims. i know lots of people who mod their ride and have technical failures every other month. i love to wrench but i have better things to do than towing my car around town because it broke down on my way somewhere.

>>16301469
>Work is bad

>>16302197
>leg strength of a toddler, gross motor ability of an epileptic koala

It must suck when the best argument for your choice is "i am lazy, weak, and awkward"

>>16302514
Then that is just your ineptitude showing through

>>16300659
How is it bait when he's right?

>>16300653
They're for people who either don't like driving, or don't care about it, but still demand the privilege of going wherever they want, whenever they want, with no effort.

Autos were created for the sort of people who are actually looking forward to self-driving suicide-boxes.

I think the worst part of manuals is going through the drive-thru if there's any kind of incline.

I'd found myself parking and going inside when I notice it. People in autos really sit on your ass.

>>16301277
>
With an automatic you can have a cup of coffee on the way to work in the morning

cup holders were made for this reason

>>16303072
>drinking in your car
burger spotted

>>16303160
>implying finishing a fifth on the highway isn't the superior life

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>it's an "americans think they are special for doing something literal children and senile people do like it's nothing" thread

>>16303186
>implying I drive slow enough to drink anyway
>implying I don´t care about my car

>>16300653
this is a troll thread

>>16301367
this guy over here knows whats up
I drive e39 stick and the only reason to is that I cant afford to fix and maintain old automatic tranny. I'd get automatic in a heartbeat if it was in good condition which it isnt in my price range and even though you're less "in charge" of your car and you dont "control" it as much I am aware that these are arguments of autistic manchildren and I want to grow out of that one day.

Get over yourselves. You're not a fucking racecar driver, youre driving mostly sub 150 kw cars in daily traffic. And if you would have any experience in high performance cars you would know that autos are that much better and they also give you opportunity to shift whenever you want it.

>>16302254
>Manuals are only better than the old automatics (ones with four or less gears). Modern automatics offer better acceleration and gas mileage than a manual. The only reason /o/ thinks manuals are better is because they drive 20+ year old shitboxes
This about sums up these threads. It's "MUH REAL DRIVERS" vs brochure racing faggots and almost nobody in between. Nobody wants to acknowledge that a ten year old torque converter transmission out of a truck (like a 6L80) will slam gears faster than anyone someone who's been bangshifting their shit for years. The shitflinging is more fun (apparently) than looking at the 10 speed in the new ZL1 and not just going >lolcamaro.

It's just fedora tippers versus freshman engineering students who wanna gloss over the massive middle ground where a good torque converter automatic is better, comparable, or only slightly worse than a normal manual when it comes to performance, fuel economy, reliability, and cost. You're all faggots.

>>16302369
>good luck doing actual offroading in an automatic.
???

>>16303353
>faster than anyone EXCEPT someone who's been bangshifting their shit for years
Typing is hard

>>16303072
>implying you cant steer, shift, drink, and eat a burger at the same time

what are you, european?

>>16301267
Fast shifting is literally the same granny shift motion you do every day, just faster and at redline

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The problem with this thread is that you people who are defending automatic transmissions are not in a relationship with you car. You probably don’t take car of your cars. You don’t stick with her through thick and thin, through health and sickness. Manual transmission is the special bond that lets you feel your car. You can ring her out, you can make her scream. When you drive manual, you are mating with your vehicle. When you drive well with a manual transmission, it’s like sex in which you hit all her spots and hold her tight as you blow your load inside her.

This is why women, and feminized males, don’t understand manual transmission. You lack that desire for control, and the drive to be precise with that control. I am in a LTR with my car. You’re all just having forced, awkward condom sex with a prostitute. Please go out and buy a manual, and learn to wrench. She’s out there, waiting for you.

>>16300653
If you use manuel your gay, that's all their is too it.

>>16301563
Can I have your number :)

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>>16303682
>manuel

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>>16303730

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>>16300659
Found the female autotragic driver

>>16303561
uugh I almost got baited there

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>>16303579

>>16303682
In one sentence, you managed to spell

- manual
- you're
- there
- to

wrong


I hope you're baiting

>/o/ supposedly prefers manuals because of feels and increased difficulty
>/o/ supposedly loves FWD because it's easier
I'm I the only one who sees the contradiction in this?

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>>16303579

holy fuck this should be archived

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>>16300653
they're for people who don't do their own work on their car regarding the transmission or don't find driving a manual fun, or possible, like people with shit motor skills or amputees.

if you dont have the proficiency to enjoy the CA-CHUNK, you wont enjoy it. i fucking love it and it's also a safety net for teaching my son, since if he floors it in 1st, it's recoverable. most of the elitism in this thread is for funzies, but if you actually think that people who drive auto are less than you, you might have pic related

>>16303817
stop this shit right now

>>16303830
>i fucking love it and it's also a safety net for teaching my son, since if he floors it in 1st, it's recoverable.
?

>>16303817
>/o/ supposedly loves FWD because it's easier
Nope, as soon as you mention FWD here they shit on you.

>>16303579
Fuck you m8 I love my car despite the fact she's automatic because she's gotten me through every stressful time in my life. Now her gaskets are finally going at 270k miles and I'm repaying her by fixing it myself. She didn't come in manual but one day I'll do the swap.

>>16303852
because it doesnt change gears on its own, which means your kid wont go into 3rd gear and hit a wall at 60 if he floors the throttle like teenagers like to do.

>>16303192
this, is there another country where driving manual is some kind of achievement?
where i live its the norm and only retards or actual physically disabled people drive auto

>>16303886
Oh man, i used to do this so much as a teenager. My dad had a 99 CRV in manual. That thing was slower than fucking molasses. I would be full WOT all the time banging through gears.
Such a good fucking car. First gen CRV is the ultimate shitbox

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>>16300659
It's for lazy people.

T. Automatic driver

>>16303886
I can get to 55 in first

>>16303579
I let my car fuck my checking account in the ass and the only bitches who get to do that are the ones I'm real tight with. We have a real intimate relationship. Suck my black nuts bitch.

>>16300662

Meaning cant afford a new car with a Turbo because most of the new ones that dont have Cvt are faster.

>Kia forte Turbo
>manual 0-60 7.5s
>auto 0-60 6.4s

>>16300728

When your pushing your car to the limit to the point auto or manual matter to the lap time the skill is still there, knowing how to attack the corner, entry speed ect.

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>>16304820
Bruh how are you tight with your car if some mechanical nigga is cucking you every time you drive it? All you're doing is directing his automatic dick into her slimy transmission pussy.

It should be you man, It should be you.

>tfw drive manual all day for work
>just want a comfy auto shitbox for the commute to and from

>>16301215
Yep.