AMC Pacer

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>this is what americans think is a hot hatch

there were hot hatches out before the Pacer ever hit a showroom floor

>>16290505
yeah its a warm turd at best

only in america is a 1970s hatchback that weighs 1.5 tons considered "hot"

>>16290546
and one with sloppy everything and an engine that dies at 4000rpm (inb4 mjet)

it's a piece of shit

>>16290505
I don't know what this guy's on, even in burgerland it's well known that the Rabbit/Golf GTI is the quintessential hot hatch.

>>16290492
>Aperature size the picture.

>>16290581
the quintessential hot hatch is a clio williams or 205 gti

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>>16290589
Bruh

>>16290599
That is a liftback.

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>>16290599
not a hatch

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I want to get one and do the following
>replace leaf springs with coilovers
>lower it about 3 inches
>put on 10 degrees of negative camber
>install green 5 spoke deep dish lightweight wheels
>use mpss for the front
>usespecial tires optimized for creating green smoke on the rear
>weld in a roll cage
>install 2 hydraulic e-brakes, one for front, one for rear
>install carbon ceramic drilled and slotted brakes
>swap in a Honda f20c and install a supercharger
>install a sequential dogbox
>install a welded diff
>replace windows with acrylic
>put on a matte black wrap
>paint chrome trim pieces green
>strip interior
>install sparco seats

I'd use that thing for so many drift events

>>16290708
you'd be only able to get 0 degrees of camber in the back, senpai

>>16290610

You'd be amazed at how much the engine in those fuckers weights. They're pretty solid and can be boosted over 400hp without a hiccup but HOLY FUCK, the F7P/F7R engine a boat anchor.

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>>16290783
I believe it. I still want one. Or a clio 182 cup. or an R26 megane

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Sure

>>16290492
only because their rotary wasnt ready in time. no their rotor wasnt 3 lobed like mazdas it was 4 lobed. and was stillborn at the wrong time.

>>16290599
how is that comparable to a golf gti?

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>>16290492
this was the orinal hot hatch first converted by john cooper works in the 60s good try op but no hero biscut for you...

>>16290755
I just said I was gonna replace the leaf springs with coilovers

>>16291134
>muh coilovers
stop posting you stupid fuck

>>16291166
what's wrong with coilovers?

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Even if that bloated pos could in some way be considered a hot hatch, it was still 4 years too late to be the first

>>16290492
My son told me Finn MacMissile straight fucked that car up.

>>16291173
If coil overs could somehow transform a live rear axle into something that could have camber you'd be some kind wizard

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>>16290492
Hey I own that car :^)

>>16292015
since when is fabrication considered wizardry?

>>16292970
coils dont magically make a car be able to have camber

>>16290599
You're a fucking idiot.

>>16290492
>Kenoshafag here.
These were absolute garbage even when they were new and anyone who has chosen to preserve this trash is a doodooheaddummy.

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>>16290610
>>16290604
>>16293016
Bruh

>>16292970
I don't think you understand how a solid axle works

>>16293070
It's just a bit of fabrication bro
custom bro
:^)

>>16293048
still not a hot hatch otherwise the term loses it's meaning

>>16293048
Don't bother. They're being stupid and semantic. A liftback is a type of hatchback.
>"Durr it's not a hatchback"

>>16293108
well done on missing the point

>>16293092
It loses it is meaning, huh?

>>16293118
uhh many cars trucks and suvs had coilovers on solid axle

nice damage control tho

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>>16293118
>Never seen a proper 4 link LRA

>>16293162
It's okay bro you don't need to post, we can manage without you

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>>16293118
>why the fuck would someone install coilovers on a solid axle?
To go fast

>>16293170
>>16293160
ok fine you got me on that

but I really was intending to put an independent rear axle on the pacer

>>16293211
There's almost no point unless you want to be a special snowflake at hard parking meets

>>16290505
>>16291091
kek @ eurofags that thinks OP is serious
Everyone knows the pacer is one of the shittiest cars of all time

>>16293211

>intending to put an independent rear axle on the pacer

Exactly zero reason to switch to IRS from solid axle, unless you're really looking for the ultimate in road comfort.

I can't seem to find the article, but there was a 1st gen Camaro that ran autox competitively that switched to IRS after racing previous seasons with the solid rear axle. They went slower with the IRS.

If you have half a clue what you're doing when it comes to suspension, a solid rear axle will let you take corners faster than 99% of cars on the road.

It's an autism car and I love it. :)

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>>16290492
>no one bringing up the gremlin x

What the fuck is this shit

>>16294042

So because ONE isolated event with a car in a magazine you can't find went slower in auto-x with IRS, IRS is slower? Oh fuck off...

Even a propper four linked and wattlinked volvo 740 still has less corner grip than the 940.

The solid axle is better in taking a beating, easier to control in a drift, and better grip in a straight line. Also (close to) no alignment issues.

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>>16290492
Dodge omni was the best though

>>16290708
go trash your g35 shitbox u faggot