AE110/111 Do you consider it to be a shitbox?

Yep

Ae86 is a shitbox desu

>>16283370
I mean
its better in every way than the AE86 and more fun but /o/ will say ae86 is the god machien and ae111was a disappointment

>>16283384
Was it considered a disappointment outside /o/?
I mean, "muh initial D" aside

>>16283383
define fucking shitbox
amerifat

>>16283384
Is it better though?

>>16283370
It had a really neat engine that got way overrated. 20 valves, ITB's yet couldn't even achieve the 160hp is was supposed to have.

>>16284352
But blacktop is 165 hp

>>16284352
They never came with stock ITBs fucking murritard mouthbreather.

>>16283735
Yes. in every way

>>16283598
Fucking Shitbox - Performing sexual acts to an outdated automobile.

>>16283598
A 30 year old economy car.

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>FWD

>>16286110
>busriding

>>16286110
>i just searched it up and read fwd

I want one desu

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>>16286498
>>16286504
>defending fwd

>>16284439
lol idiot

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Honda did it better, the ae111 has some cool things like the throttle bodies and the 6 speed box, but the dc2/ek9 rapes the Toyota (and i'm a Toyota fanboi)

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>>16283370
I consider it to be a godmachine

>>16287698
They cost twice as much as a Levin BZR too though

>>16287679
>being a busriding benchracer

Can we please go back to 90s Toyota. They were making FUCKING FOUR sports cars all at once.

>Supra Turbo
>MR2 Turbo
>Celica GT4
>Corolla BZ-R

I wouldn't call any of these sports cars shitboxes. All four were built as performance vehicles. Now any other Corolla, any non turbo Supra or MR2, and any non GT4 Celica I'd call a shitbox.

>>16287715
Still do, for good reason, Honda went hard on the original type R's.

>>16287719
Let's not compare it to any turbo toyotas, they're on another level.
Arguably a celica ss3 is a better car than the levin.

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>>16287719

>tfw no turbo AWD Celica after the 185
>tfw supra was heavy and expensive
>tfw sports trim Corollas were detuned for the US market for no real reason

>>16287719
And there's the Glanza V and JZX90/100s, even their mpv came awd and supercharged
Not to mention the other strange cars they came out with like the Sera
90s Toyota line up was goat

>>16287740
That's what I mean, a good ek9 or dc2 is €5-7k here, while an equivalent bzr is about €3k
That said, the type-rs are definitely on another level.

>>16287740
Yeah.... but BZR was neat because it was an affordable sports car. It looked great (imo), handled very well, had a good gearbox, and had a fantastic sounding, screaming engine.

My point was more that Toyota made a Sports car for everyone.

>FE & FWD (realistic daily)
>FE & AWD (rally car fanatic)
>FE & RWD (just gotta go fast)
>ME & RWD (supercar wannabe)

>>16287771
Just like every Japanese manufacturer after the 90s, they killed off everything fun.

>>16287791
Based 90s Toyota please come back.

Toyota killed the performance Corolla, killed the turbo Celica, and completely killed the Supra. The only car they kept, the MR2, the made ugly, unable to daily, and a convertible.

>>16287801
they also kept the jzx until 2004. The JZX110 IRV came with a turbo 1jz, manual trans and LSD in some models. I believe Toyota kept the 1jz-vvti in production until 2006 in the MKII BLIT wagon and crown athelete.