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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/12/mazda-ceo-takls-strategy/

>no plans for rotary sports car

I want to die
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>>16272516
>Months of shilling their shitty economy cars for nothing
KEK! btf/o/

Sad though.
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WE TOLD YOU ONCE
WE TOLD YOU A THOUSAND TIMES
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Rx9 confirmed smaller than a miata.
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>>16272516
>>16272579
>single seater rotary sports car
Please make this a reality mazda.
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/o/ really resembles /pol/ in many ways.

each and everytime someone is screaming "HAPPENING" they believe it.

you can literally shit out a design in ms paint and everyone here will think it's a genuine design of the brand and WILL definitely come true.
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wtf i hate mazda now
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Fuck. I really wanted to like Mazda, but god damn are they a worthless brand.

>no Mazdaspeeds
>no RX-7 successor
>can't even be bothered to drop the 2.5T from the CX-9 into the underpowered Mazda6

""""""""Zoom-zoom""""""""
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the amount of times mazda ceo says no rotary then says yes rotary then says no rotary is quite ridiculous
at least every 4 months it happens

they know how to make actual hype though
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>>16272599
>only "sports" car is a sub 200hp shitty gay hairdresser mobile

Fuck off mazda
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>>16272516
Rotary MX-5 when?
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My only long-term goal in life was to buy an RX-9 in 6 years. I'm still solidly on the path to making 70k/yr, but what am I going to buy now?

>Camaro is a terrible daily with no visibility
>Mustang is about a unique as a Honda Accord
>Supra will be ruined by modern Toyota styling
>Can't afford F-Type/Corvette/Evora
>Don't want German engineering to rape my wallet

Fuck you Mazda
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>>16272635
A GT350R.
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>>16272625
There's one for sale in the Czech Republic
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>>16272639
>being sold 20k over sticker

I'll never be able to afford this either :(

Maybe Ford will make the RS500? Nah, we'll probably never get it.
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>>16272648
>Czech Republic
Do you have a link?
t. swampgerman
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>>16272654
You could wait for the GT500, which will blow anything the competition has to offer the fuck out. 800+hp Ecoboosted Voodoo when?
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>>16272516
Called it!

Their sales are in the shitter and skyactiv has been an unmitigated disaster for the brand. They will never build a halo car under these circumstances.

The question isn't will there ever be another rotary sports; it is will there be a Mazda in 10 years?
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>>16272681
Maybe Ford will bail them out again.
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>>16272657
http://www.sportovnivozy.cz/64578-mazda-mx-5-revx-5-wankel-rarita-praha-4-chodov
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>>16272683
Thanks, but I don´t have 13k€
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>>16272594
only this wasnt a design shit out on ms paint and was a literal physical car that was shown
not saying that a concept legitimizes the expectation, but its far removed from a simple render
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>>16272682
I think that is what it would take to make another RX happen.
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>>16272648
there is also one 500hp rotary NB in poland
and sooner or later rotard NA, when i'll finish it
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>>16272759
Kek, can't wait for gm to get completely and utterly BTFO.
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>>16272516
Mazda owner here and the dealer sends me the fukkin zoom zoom magazine. Recently got the latest issue and literally everything in OP's article is a contradiction.

>article claims mazda putting priority on electric shit
>magazine boasts about how "while other companies focus on electric, we put all our energy into gasoline engines"

>article says piss off rotaries
>magazine lauding rotaries and exciting future for the engines
>preparing to celebrate 40 or something years of rotaries
>says mazda is and will always be at the forefront of utilising rotaries

I don't know what to believe famalam, its hard to imagine mazda would let go of their rotaries, although I have read somewhere that such an engine would make for excellent hybrid because it can operate at a set rpm very well.
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>>16272833

Q4 2016
>At Mazda, North American operation profit plunged 71 percent to ¥3 billion ($29.6 million) in the period. North American sales declined 5 percent to 111,000 vehicles, while revenue slumped 23 percent to $2.33 billion.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20161107/RETAIL01/311079985/higher-yen-hammers-profits-at-mazda-subaru

It's not going to happen, they are trying to stay in business right now. Maybe they will start development if they manage to pull out of this nose div, but then tack 5 years on to that and who knows where the world will be. Western economies have been on the brink for 8 years now, every year it becomes increasingly probable that we are going to have a depression of unprecedented proportions.
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>>16272833
People are way more excited about a simple, elegant, lightweight, fast sports car more than the rotary engine itself. If Mazda makes a rotary hybrid but not a new RX, I frankly don't give a shit and would rather stick with superior pistons.
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>>16272833
post pics of the magazine
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>>16272880
Admittedly it's mostly retards on here, but people are obsessed with that meme
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>>16272635
>Thinks he can buy the new supra
>Can't afford a corvette
Nigger get a c6 now for less than 35k or a used c7 in 6 years for the same price
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>>16272908
>corvette
lmao
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>>16272908
*Used c6
Even if you buy new it will be 50-60k for a new c7, the zo6 isn't the only trim available
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>>16272864
Never really expected mazda to do well in NA. Not exactly their target audience when you look at their car lineup..
Funny, they do fantastically well in my country because lol reliability. Well actually most cars here are Japanese, overwhelmingly so..for yurop.

>>16272880
The mx-5 fills that spot though, it would be unreasonable to expect mazda to produce anything remotely near it because it's the best in its class. Either they make something innovative, ie rotary, or something waaaaaayyyy waayy more powerful.

>>16272887
Pic related.
I rotated it so idk why it goes sideways again then I upload..
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>>16272887
Pic related with regards to rotary funtimes
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>>16272923
>Never really expected mazda to do well in NA. Not exactly their target audience when you look at their car lineup..
NA is 1/3rd of their sales...
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>>16272923
Look mate, I can respect the Miata for what it is. But not all of us can be happy with 155HP and 4 cubic ft of cargo space. It's a car that is useless to me and a lot of people.
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>>16272923
Mazda isn't popular in US, but very popular in Canada. Couldn't tell you why, maybe we just do more research.
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>>16272681

>mazda trying to move uprange and raise prices.

No they wont be
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>>16272887
Pic related some fagit with a ms3

>>16272934
see dis >>16272938
Its a big audience but compared to other companies I really doubt it ranks high.
They could get many more sales is what I'm saying, which would in turn actually salvage the company because competing against others who have fuckoff massive presence in NA means that a potential gold mine is lost.
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If Mazda launched the RX9, tomorrow would any of the faggots complaining in this thread buy it?

NO, all of you would be like

>buying a new car
>nah dude, just wait 20 years and buy it used
>buy a used RX7, not worth it to buy new

I am glad Mazda is spending their money wisely instead of catering to ungrateful fucks like /o/.
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>>16273015
I can't afford it right now, but believe me, I would. I bought the BRZ brand new while everyone was bitching about it, pretending the 240SX/AE86 was somehow better, and waiting to get hooned-to-shit molested hand-me-down BRZ's for 5k.

If they bring it out in 2020 and I'm making more money, I'll get it.
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>>16273037
>I'm so autistic I voluntarily signed myself up to be a debt slave just so I wouldn't have to sit on a seat that somebody else sat on.
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>>16273037
See you already got a faggot like >>16273053
calling you out for buying new

99% of /o/ is composed of entitled bitter poorfags like that guy.
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>>16273061
>99% of /o/ is composed of entitled bitter poorfags like that guy.
You just keep telling yourself that.

I just went back to work after taking two years off for no reason other than I felt like having a long weekend. Sure it put a dent in my finances but not a very big one.

Can you do things like that while paying off your silly new car? I didn't think so. Part of accumulating wealth means seeing bad business decisions for what they are and avoiding them. Paying more for a depreciating asset is a bad business decision any way you cut it, its the sort of thing I would only do if my back was absolutely against the wall.
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Key thing to note here mazda ceo says

Their is no >current plans

But that just in the current active pipeline(cars that are for sure getting made) It does not mean ihappening.

If u read the previous few questions in the auto news article. He actually confirms their still messing around with a new rotary engines in R&D.


Basically nothing is confirmed one way or the other and the rx-9 is still in very early stages
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>>16272682
Ford never bailed them out
Ford didnt know how to build cars so they paid mazda to do it.
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>>16273220
Mazda wouldn't have survived without Ford. Stay BTFO.
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>>16273229
Simply not true.
They were destroying ford in small car sales in the 70s because of the oil crisis.
Same reason GM paid toyota
Same reason Chrysler paid mitsubishi
Murrica a shit
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>>16273182
>You just keep telling yourself that.

Nah, I have seen it all the time someone makes a thread about buying a new car (ANY CAR) you get the same replies discouraging the OP, insulting him for even considering buying a new car.

About your story, that's fine it works for you. But you wouldn't assume that everyone must have the same buying habits as you.

After all, time is your MORE PRECIOUS asset, not money.

This is a car board and some people don't want to wait 8 years of their life to own their dream vehicle. For SOME PEOPLE it's worth it to buy a new than to wait for the car to depreciate and they have the money to do it.
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>Toyota lost money on every LFA sold
>Bugatti has a loss every time it sells a Veyron
>Honda lost money on every single 1995–2001 DC2 Type R sold

BASED Mazda not falling for the Halo Sports car meme.
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>>16273015
If the RX9 lived upto the hype I'd definitely buy it new. If I could afford it that is.
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>mazda-ceo-takls-strategy

did anyone else know that the url is spelt wrong?
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>>16273248
There are a ton of bus riders on here, I'll give you that.

From my point of view pretty much all new cars are a let down. After all the hype I drove a new BRZ and ended up laughing in salesman's face at how crappy the performance was. I drove an AP1 the week prior, there is a monster hiding in that car... the BRZ nope.

For something like a 2017 Ford GT, I completely agree with you, its worth it to pick it up new. But for a normal car that offers nothing unique, its the dumbest thing ever to buy new.

New RX9 is coming out and you gotta have it? This is how uncle smart anon would do things.
>Buy a very good condition FD, drive it on weekends keep it in top shape
>Watch the FD appreciate in value
>When RX9s depreciate close to the FD, sell the FD and buy an RX9

So instead of blowing your wad on a new RX9 you picked up a car that you made money on and bought the RX9 for a discount all the while having rotary fun.
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>>16273388
I felt the opposite.
>drive ap1
Meh
>drive ap2
Meh
>drive FRS
Not bad at all
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>>16273388
>making money on a rotary
if you never ever drive it
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>>16273061
>poorfags
I have $90k parked in my garage. Try again
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>>16272635
A GTR.
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>>16274635
Dude says he can't afford a Corvette, so he sure as hell can't afford something that costs twice as much.
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Daily reminder

86 was our Savior all along
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>>16272516
>But if we were to restart production of the rotary engine again, we need to make sure it wouldn’t be just short-lived. We need it to meet future emissions regulations.
>We need it to meet future emissions regulations.
>future emissions regulations.
Electric Mazdas are the future.
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>>16272635
Why not a Cadillac?
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>>16274674
>btfo by a fucking miata
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>>16274674
we have to wait at least 10 years before it becomea cool on this board, anon
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>>16274932
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>Mazda kills mazdaspeed and RX series
>Mitsubishi kills evo and 3000gt is dead
>subaru is coasting on a 30 year old engine and their new flagship looks like a camry
>honda discontinued s2000, new nsx is too expensive and isn't a worthy successor to the original. At least they brought type r to the us
>Nissan is ugly
>toyota shit up the supra by going with a bmw engine guaranteed to shit itself in 40k miles. GT86 is just a rebranded subaru. LFA is gone for good, other lexus sportscars are pig fat

When are japs going to make cool cars again?
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>>16274674
They are a very nice looking car but lack of power kills it and I hate boxer engines.

>>16274998
is mazda speed kill? I wanted a new mazdaspeed 3.
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>>16274979
>"laptime"

Wow it took them this long to come up with something and this is the best 86 fags can do
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As a rotary fanboy I'm not even mad that Mazda still can't come to justifying a restart of the RX series. If they can't afford to put them back into the lineup due to financial/regulation reasons then so be it.

But the fact that they made an RX concept, revealed details on rotary development, and even stated release dates only to have the buzzkill CEO backtrack on everything is fucking maddening. Could have just said this shit before all the hype build up.
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>>16273388
>This is how uncle smart anon would do things.
>buy a very good condition fd

LOL no

Save your money and use it to grow your business, then when you've got a decent amount of capital buy all the toys you want while poorfags do mental gymnastics to justify their shitbox purchases.
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>>16275028
What do you actually expect from a new car for $25k?
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>>16275247
A lot more
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>>16275253
$25 grand on the modern market gets you a shitbox with 150hp and an iPad hot glued to the top of the dash.
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>>16272516
>you were born just in time to see the end of exciting Japanese cars
Guess I'll just get a self driving cuckmobile in 5 years.
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>>16272635
ND Miata with Super 200 kit. Fuck in 6 years there could even be an NE Miata.
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>>16272923
>it because it's the best in its class.
lol faggy hairdresser car will never be fast. stay retarded
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>>16272944
because most canadians are lgbt like you

>a fucking leaf
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>>16275076
damage control

typical mazdrone saving a picture of an ape in his computer
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>>16272516
The only reason I planned to stay alive for the next 5 years was to enjoy a new rotary super sportscar.

I may as well kill myself jesus

>>>b-buy our 2.0l i4 economy cars guys so we can make high performance cars again!!11
This shit better not be true.

>>16272599
>>can't even be bothered to drop the 2.5T from the CX-9 into the underpowered Mazda6
Yeah. At the very least they could have put a 2.5T into a RWD Mazda6 coupe. It would look good as a coupe with long doors. Give a bit less torque and a bit more HP over the CX-9 tune and it'd be a fantastic car for around the $30k range and shouldn't cost them too much to make when the platform supports AWD and the hood is fucking long to fit the long headers in the traverse mount FWD engined.
I'm becoming convinced that Mazdas are assholes. This is just bullshit branding and no substance.
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>>16274922
Too heavy

I prefer the V8 in the Camaro to the TTV6 in the ATS-V
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>>16272635
GT350R is sort of my back up choice. Or a Cayman. But neither is the same.

The GT350R looks significantly nicer than the normal mustang, but normies can't tell them apart. May as well get a Rocket Bunny Stang, really.
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>>16272635
Factory Five GTM with a 3-rotor.
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>>16276645
>GT350R
You can hear a Voodoo from a mile away. It has a really distinct sound.

They'll know.

t. someone who has seen GT350s in town
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>>16272923
The mx-5 is possibly the slowest coupe in its price range, and has virtually no storage space. It's only available in a soft-top until the RFD comes out next year. It's actually a poor value overall, but it's an economical convertible which is the only strong feature it can boast of.

Not saying I dislike Mazda. They're one of the better current auto-makers, but I'd honestly rather have a cheaper, roomier. Hell, the for MY15, the Mazda 3 hatch had a faster 0-60. The entry-level sedan from the same company could outrun its sports car.
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>>16276662
>They'll know.
They really won't. rofl.

Yeah it sounds great. But they'll think just a different exhaust does that.
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>>16275919
>BBR Super 200+
>214HP and 183lb-ft in a Miata ND

This I could see being fun. Would it be reliable though?
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>>16276666
>Hatch
>Sedan
Oh no, a spelling error, people on the Internet will think I'm dumb now.
Also, being a fucken leaf, mazda is very popular up here. Every third or fourth vehicle on the road is a Mazda.
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>>16272635
In 6 years the new Elise and Exige will be available to the U.S. Market in their road-legal forms.

Just wait it out.
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>>16272587
Damn if I had the money for something like that I'd buy one in a heartbeat
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>>16276666
Didn't say it's fast, but it is praised to hell and back for being so good to just drive. Blatantly is not fun on a straight doe.
Its fun, its small, it's supposed to be the achievable fun car for the masses which it does pretty well.

>other Mazda's outrun it's own sports car
Yeah, and I'd get a different model too, but the point is the mx-5 is for your average salaryman who wants a second car for his leisurely sunday drive round some twisty roads for cheaps.
Ofc if you're an an/o/n you may have other ideas for fun and bang for buck or more specific preferences..
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>>16276662

I don't think normies know the diference between cross-plane and flat-plane crankshafts V8's.
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A real rx9 would have been my first brand new car purchase in a few years once I get out of college and a full time job. I love Mazda to death but I understand how hard it is to make a rotary in this day and age.
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>no plans for homer car

I want to die
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>>16272608
Tune it to +200hp if it's so slow, or buy a turnkey LS-swapped one
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>>16272608

The car ways 2300 lbs

its power to weight ratio is actually really good and 0-60 speed is 5.9 which also isnt bad.

Also way better mod potential than a shitty toyobaru
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What's up with the rotary fascination on here? Stockholm Syndrome?
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>>16276775
Special snowflake syndrome
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>>16275906
I hate to say it but hyundai might be our savior. They have a lot to prove and so that's why they're really pushing their r&d and poaching designers.
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See you in a month when someone says it is happening, and a month later when someone says it isn't, etcetera.

I'm not paying attention to these
>IT IS
>IT ISN'T
clickbait non-articles until the 2017 Tokyo show
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>>16276662
>pull up to gas station
>as I get out I notice a guy in a blacked out GT350 just starting to leave
>he slowly drives away without revving or going full throttle or anything
>even that is enough to make me cum
Best sound I've ever heard in my fucking life
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>>16276666
What are you talking about? The Miata has a better 0-60 than the gt86 or the mazda3
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>>16276666
>devil quads
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https://youtu.be/33ZXiAxMMP0
Everybody calm down
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>>16272516
sounds to me like they ran out of money because the R&D for the rotary is too expensive so they need to upscale the brand so they can charge more and make more of a profit for R&D, they say they are still working on the rotary but canceling the RX-9 is going to hurt them, a lot
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>>16277115
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>>16277115
Well that's good to know, at least
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>>16277115
>the confusion came after Automotive News asked the CEO if the next “RX” Sports car would come with some short of range-extender technology, to which the CEO replied “No”.
>Automotive News interpreted this answer as a confirmation that the project was done.

Holy shit what fucking cucks, can't possbly fathom the idea that a rotary sportscar would possibly get made without climbing on the hybrid jew-dick
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>>16272516
>So, for the Mazda 3, the Mazda 6 and the CX-3, they will all have major updates.

MAZDASPEED 3 CONFIRMED
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>>16277292
'no'
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>>16277290
Fucking cucks
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>>16277292
>yfw "major updates" means new hybrid, CVT, and haldex AWD drivetrains
>and the manual transmission will no longer be offered
This is the future we chose
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>>16277290
>>16277115
How the actual fuck is this shit even a problem these days
How does any self-respecting journalist just go full selective hearing and put out a false news report?

God, the internet ruined news, this cancer has to be purged
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>>16277659
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>>16272594
Except /pol/ is always right
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The one time in the past 20 years that an oil burning rotary with terrible fuel economy makes perfect sense.
Mazda instead powers all it's cars with 4 cylinders.
JUST like everyone else.


Just shoot me, and pass the 5.0 Rustang.
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>>16277115
I don't know what to believe anymore.
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>>16277829
It never makes sense.

My Ls7 puts out more than double the HP and uses much less fuel than my RX8's (2 of the fuckers!) ever did.

Rotary engines never make sense in a street car. Ever.
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>>16277935
>what to believe anymore
this thread should of died when >>16272833 posted
Never trust no name auto blog idiots who just wants to create controversy and get hits and ad revenue
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>>16277959
>MUH LS

fuck off ameritard
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>>16278331
EVERY FUCKING TIME

How come EVERY time octane is brought up, I have to remind people that RON and AKI are 2 different measurements?

93 in the US is 100 for you. I can get 94 in Canada, which would be about 101/102 in non-NA countries
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>>16278331
It's a different octane scale you spic fuck
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>>16278331
>Salvador doesn't understand the difference between RON and R+M/2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

Basically, add 4 to our numbers to get yours.
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>>16278352
A go kart is faster around laguna Seca
Radicals are faster and have no hybrid shit
Even race bikes are faster
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>>16272635

>Mustang is about as unique as a Honda Accord

I guess I live somewhere where not many people have them.
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>>16278467
nigga you're the one who brought up soulless awd hybrid supercars simply designed for benchracing
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>>16277829
How the fuck is gas that cheap in Jew York? Here in Vegas it's 2.50 a gallon for unleaded
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>>16272771
>there is also one 500hp rotary NB in poland
Any more info on that?
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>>16272516
Wtf, I hate Mazda now.
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>>16278518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5togWiSW_c

http://www.mx5klubpolska.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14549

by the way, that power charts is outdated, right now it makes 556hp if i recall correcty
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The answer is rotary miata
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>>16278668
clearly
good lord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKx3ZvV8EfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NcvvVT_uWk
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>>16278668
>>16278691
The ultimative small and light roadster with a insane power/weight ratio.
If this would be a production model it would be on the level of a 911 turbo.
I NEED THIS
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>>16278812
>Paul Harris
This guy had a "rotary club", it has nothing to do with rotary engines.
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>>16273015

I wouldn't buy it new, I would wait a year for the teething issues to be dealt with.
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>>16272516

Ahahahaha GET FUCKED AGAIN ROTARDS!
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>>16278960
Stupid piston cuck confirmed illiterate
Rotary owners confirmed top tier enthusiasts yet again
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>>16272516
I told you you stupid fucking rotard faggots. I fucking TOLD YOU but you wouldn't listen.
>hurr durr modern teknolegy fixd all rotary problems
you said
But you were wrong. There are inherent limitations in the wankel design that preclude it from use in modern cars, in which FUEL ECONOMY and EMISSIONS can make your car a success or completely illegal to sell.
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>>16278975
And another illiterate piston cuck who takes click bait as fact
Stop posting please and thank you
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>>16278980
Wankerfans in mega-denial
lol
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>>16278980
It's ok bruh, denial is a step in the grieving process.

>using cuck unironically in a situation where it doesn't fit
go back to r9k lol
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>>16278983
Read through the thread illiterate child
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>>16278994
full blown denial kek
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>>16278993
Please kys illiterate piston cuck :^)

See >>16272516
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>>16278960
>>16278975
>>16278983
>Apex seals have been fixed by NSU in the 70s (300.000km)
>fuel consumtion has been fixed by hybrids
>emissions can be fixed with particle filters and catalythic converters
Is there anything left to fix?
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ITT rotards going full damage control and suffering from extreme denial
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>>16279001
Sorry lad wrong post link
>>16277115
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>>16278994
>>16278998
>>16279004
If the mods ever did their job you'd all be banned. Fuck off
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>>16279003
Illiterate and brain dead piston cucks who think it's okay to limiter bash any engine from a cold start
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>>16279017
Electric throttle and a dynamic revlimiter could fix that...
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Mazda is following Volvo in trying to go more upmarket with their brand. Not quite full on luxury and the highest price, but not competing with Hyundai, Chevy, and so on with price.

The Skyactiv cars grew a bit more in price compared to competitors, and the second generation (as the CX-9 did, even though it's a first generation update) is going to grow in price as well.

For Mazda to sell cars at a premium, it makes a lot of fucking sense to have a ~$48k-$62k halo car.

I'm pretty sure the retarded """""journalist"""" just misunderstood. Jalopnik is legitimately retarded.
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good... i would rather they use a v10 than a meme rotary engine
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>>16272635
>Path onto making 70k

Wat do you do man?
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>>16278084
>Ls7

You sound butthurt that you can't get awesome power and torque in your country. This ain't my problem, perhaps you should move? I've owned more than enough cars from every country that makes shit worth buying and am completely satisfied with my j/j/a stable.

Stay mad poor eurofaggot.
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>>16279074
Stay under 85mph burgercuck...
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>>16279066
I'm just a cog in the military machine, but at least it's the best paying military in the world.

At least 4 pay rates are guaranteed in the Canadian Forces
>33k when you join
>42k a year after you enlist
>50k once fully trained
>57k one year after being fully trained (Corporal)

Add another 6k for being in a "specialty trade" (anything that needs more than 3 brain cells) and that's 63k guaranteed in about 3 years time. After that, I have another 3 years to get promotions before I'm done paying for my car.

Oh and I fix planes. At least I'm learning how.
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>>16279096
I have probably hit higher speeds than most euros. Its not hard, and its not dangerous. US roads aren't like mad max and its not like smokey and the bandit either.

176+ on 2 and 150+ on 4. No worries. Come at me with your 1.2 diesel eurobro.
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>>16279111
I do this every fucking day, and my car isn´t a diesel.
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>>16279003
A reliably working OMP (FD's was pretty reliable. Later gen RX-8's as well) and an extra oil reserve.

And, ideally, the oil would somehow travel through the e-shaft, to the rotors, to the apex seals instead of the rotor housing.

Further ideally, they'd fix the "chattering" issue while having extremely tiny and lower pressure, lower wear, apex seals (<0.5mm tall at max spring instead of the usual 4-8mm). Ideally they would be more like piston rings, which would require greatly improved tolerances, lower expansion/contraction.

I think ideally the rotor housings and rotors would be aluminum alloy.
The benefit of aluminum is weight, obviously, and sometimes the heat rejection is even more notable.
But the huge downside is that the thermal expansion is extremely high for a metal. Over twice that of cast iron. So it's not so simple as just using aluminum like in a piston engine where as more thermal expansion means more difficulty for apex seals to seal, loss in efficiency, durability.
I think they could absolutely could do the inner housings as iron, and the water jacket and outer in aluminum, though, but the extra connecting rods weight will somewhat offset the reduced weight of aluminum so it comes down to the benefit of aluminum's heat rejection being worth it.

Other problems are the side exhaust ports don't flow enough for a turbo (narrower rotor with longer stroke improves this greatly, as seen on the 16x. Despite being a 22.5% displacement increase, I believe the exhaust area could be increased 30%.
Another big problem is the huge gap that the recessed spark plug makes which makes overlap and reduces power and efficiency.
Another problem was that they didn't have computer modeling for the flame propagation in combustion for rotary engines until a few years after the RX-8 came out, while it was being used to model improvements engineering on piston engines for decades. The combustion chamber and ignition on rotaries in the past is far, far from ideal.
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>>16279168
>OMP
Oil injection directly to the housing would be more efficient and would have better emissions and lower oil consumption.
>second oil reserve
A second one with synthetic 2-stroke oil would be nice, some RX-7 and RX-8 drivers installed that.
>oil trogh rotor
That would be insanely complex since the e-shaft bearing is a hydrodynamic one, you wouldn´t be able to controll the oil flow.
>chattering
NSU fixed that adeqatly, the last Ro80 engines ware capable of 300.000km without significant compression loss.
>aluninium housings and rotors
That would take even longer to heat up, also wankels are alredy pretty light.
>not good flow fort turbos
The flow issue isn´t a downside, there has to be some "cold" gas near the apex seals to keep them relatively cool.
Also a turbo would decrease the relieability...
>spark plug gap
you could put them on the position where the pressure difference between the chambers is about 0
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>>16279100
Is that the best you could do?
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So why does mazda use KKM variants

Why doesn't anyone use DKM variants? I read it was better
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The rotary engine is too inefficient and unreliable for 2017.
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>>16279285
They are more comlex and have even more sealing issues.
Also the gliding speeds are insanely high.
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>>16279313
But Mr. Wankel said his engine was like a Race horse, and that the KKM was like a plow mare.

that means faster, and faster means better. He wouldn't lie, would he? I mean, Wankel's his name, he's gotta be knowledgeable on the subject
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>>16279333
You forgot the second part of the Quote: ,,If we even had a plow mare"
It is indeed insanely powerfull, but it doesn´t last long enough to be used.
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>>16279074
>>16279111
>getting this fucking triggered
>instantly trying to prove yourself on an anime imageboard

Lmao, dumb burgercuck
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Welp, time to either buy an FD, or go 3-rotor in my RX8. Can't say I'm disappointed, though. Making a hybrid sports car just wasn't going to allow me to properly play and adjust the car, since I have no idea how to work with batteries.
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>>16276594
Why? Who the fuck is going to opt for the significantly more expensive (because it would have to be) rwd variant of a fucking Mazda 6? How are people on the website so fucking retarded.
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>>16275992
Saved
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>>16279259
>NSU fixed that adeqatly, the last Ro80 engines ware capable of 300.000km without significant compression loss.
No, chattering (chatter marks) is what happens when you don't have apex seals. Due to tolerances, expansion, etc, the end of the rotor skips.
Well, it sometimes happens to a lesser degree in modern ones as well due to various issues, too.

>That would take even longer to heat up, also wankels are alredy pretty light.
~150lb for their size is heavy, though.
But the bigger thing is lighter rotors. Housing doesn't matter much.

And for heating, that's why you use an electric block heater in a mild hybrid 48v system instead of relying on combustion to heat it.
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>>16279490
>when you don't have apex seals
What do yo mean with not having apex seals?
>happens to a lesser degree in modern ones as well
If the chattering is low enough to keep the Engine runnig for over 300.000km it isn´t much of a problem...
>~150lb for their size is heavy, though
Maybe, but they produce much power for their weight.
>electric block heater in a mild hybrid 48v system
Why not recover the exaust heat and use mainly the electricity to drive the first 10km?
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>>16279454
Uh people want a coupe that has 50% more horsepower?
The fuck are you actually asking? It's very common to have coupe and sedan versions of cars, like the ATS-V.

Mazda actually has the tooling to make a 3.0l-5.0l V8, too. They could do that.
A 260hp 3.0l skyactiv v8 would be badass.
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>>16279522
Originally when Wankel rotary engines were invented, they didn't have them. It was one of the problems that had to be solved that apex seals solved.
So the tips of the rotors skipped and made those marks.

While apex seals solve the problem, they wear, the seal has to be a lot stronger than a piston ring, etc. These are things that could e reduced with better tolerances, lubrication, and so on.

Now chattering isn't a problem, but the apex seals wearing down to unusability in 125k-250k miles is.
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>>16279563
That was before they went in production, the Ro80 first had carbon-sinter seals, later ceramic ones.

>wearing down to unusability in 125k-250k miles
You have to do some maintainance once in a while, but 300.000km is about as much as the rest of the car is usually desinged for.
Also some maintainance after that mileage isn´t much of a deal.
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>>16279563
>Hollow cast iron apex seals reduced vibration by changing their resonance frequency and thus eliminated chatter marks.
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>>16279594
Ah, thanks for the correction.
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>>16279965
They fixed it back in 1962, the 1963 prototype NSU Wankel Spyder didn´t have that Issue anymore.
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>>16272516
:(
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>>16280397
We are talking about 6 small parts, also a Wankel is mechanicly less complex than a piston engine.
You have 3 moving parts on a 2 rotor, if it has a VVL equivalent you have 4.
On a simple SOHC I4 eingine you have 4 pistons, 1 crankshaft, 4 conectig rods, 8 valves, 1 camshaft, 1 belt/chain.

Changing the apex seals isn´t as complicated as reworking valves or putting new piston rings on the pistons.
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>>16280432
Sorry, i was thinking you were talking about the Apex seals.
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>>16280397
>Sounds like it's a disposable "car" then
if it is chinese, american, korean, australian, italian or lower end german... sure
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don't care
mazda still owns
deal with it nerds
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>>16272681
>Their sales are in the shitter and skyactiv has been an unmitigated disaster for the brand.

yeah one of the absolute best reviewed non-sports coupes/hatchbacks is a disaster, sure thing. what other wrong opinions are popular here in backwards land
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>>16272944
it's because americans are extremely brand loyal. it's going to take time for more americans to realize honda's non-sports cars are absolute dogshit. seriously, the civic has been an absolute laughing stock for over half a decade. mazda absolutely sells the best aver consumer oriented cars on the market right now, it'll just take time for americans to realize it
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>>16272516
Rotary is shit why does /O/ even care about this meme
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>>16280574
mazda was second best seller right behind toyota in australia for 2015
they sold three times as many cars as honda
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>>16280592
yeah and it's damned well deserved. really, what the fuck is honda even doing
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>>16280574
>honda's non-sports cars are absolute dogshit
The Honda Fit has been one of the best cars in America for years.
Not just in its segment, but it's got the same or more cargo space than most crossovers and is better handling, way better fuel economy, it's just not got "muh ride height" and the interior is worse than some of them.

I agree on the Civic, though.
The Civic is simply the car that uninformed parents that hate their children buy for them as their first car.
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>>16280974
yeah the fit is good but you're kidding yourself if you think it's better than the 3 hatchback. the fit would compete with the 3 if it weren't for the fact that the road noise is horrendous, it doesn't seat anybody over 6' tall, and the electronics packages are garbage. the 3's lane assisnt and infotainment system are miles and miles and miles ahead of honda's anything. i like the 3 and it's a nice driving car, but it's absolutely an downgrade from a 3 hatchback
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>>16281447
meant to say "i like the fit and it's a nice driving car, but"
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>>16279100
>Boasts about high pay rates
>Gets paid in worthless CAD
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So what's going on

We've got a CEO that some people say was misquoted, and a Magazine and Head Engineer that says it's definitely happening.

But Jalopnik says it isn't! And they seem so confident! Who do I believe?
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>>16281447

This. I have a 2015 fit, and between the shitty touchscreen (in function and connectivity, the glass front is fantastic) and excessive road noise, it's relegated to being a grocery getter. Anything above 50 mph sounds as if the windows were down due to the shitty insulation/ shitty window seals/ small tires riding on a big space. It's basically one rolling acoustic chamber, especially with the rear seats down.

Meanwhile, my gf's 3 hatch is quieter, faster, albeit slightly less roomy. Interior's meh on both.
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>>16278512
inland vs. port city

for the record, it's not that cheap in the city proper, but it sure as hell is outside of it (Queens, Bronx, etc.)

NJ has holy shit good prices though. I make it a point to fill up whenever I find myself that side of the Hudson.
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>>16280555
>yeah one of the absolute best reviewed non-sports coupes/hatchbacks is a disaster

Reviews do not equal sales. Their NA sales are down %7 YoY. Go read the sales reports yourself, fuckboi.
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>>16277659
>I'm still literally shaking and crying because the shitlord got elected president

FIFY
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Well guys hope the new head of EPA trump picked helps with our rotary dream. I think it is going to.
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>>16282955
That's not what I said though

No, that's seriously completely unrelated to what I said

I don't know how you even arrived at the conclusion that I'm a tumblrite. Please explain now I'm curious.
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>>16283055
>MUH FAUX INTERNET NUUUSEEE RUINING EVERYTHANG
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>>16276775
There are people with a lot of different interests on /o/, rotary fans are the ones just haven't had anything to look forward too, so they get easily excited.
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>>16283789
This is basically it...

Lots of us owned a previous one and wanted to see one with advances in technology and engineered instead of a 50 year old engine repeatedly getting compared to a brand new one, or a 1.3L NA one in a 4 door car compared to Corvettes even when the FD BTFO the Corvette in 1992.

I think I'll be super depressed for ever if there is not another serious performing, rotary super sportscar made. I think I'll really never get over it.
It's been 22 years since the FD came out.
I love my FD. The engine feels amazing. The sounds. The mechanical grip the (unbelievable for its time) chassis and suspension gives you.
But now days... suspensions are even better. The FD was all steel, when aluminum and CFRP would be far superior. The engine can make amazing power, but doesn't efficiently use fuel to do so. So it'll be a massive let down to not see rotary technology not pushed forward. A Cayman is close, but still not the fucking same.

>>16283042
I know it's 100% possible to make a rotary turbo car that'd pass 2025 emissions. It really comes down to the market and cost and not that.
Mazda might not think it makes financial sense to make them. But I'm hoping this story is bullshit and it's still on track to be on sale in 2019 or 2020.
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Ok. This is the most angry and upset i've been at something a car company has done since BMW said they'd make the 1 series FWD. fuck this gay earth. I believed in you mazda, fantasies of mazda 3 and 6 becoming RWD, turbo miatas and non-hybrid rotaries all down the fucking drain. It's over boys, there is no hope now.
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>>16284358
Read the thread you fucking tard
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>>16283719
If you speak in memes I can't understand, man.

>>16284312
>50 year old engine repeatedly getting compared to a brand new one
This is what annoys me the most. Mazda is the only one that realizes all of the upsides that the Wanker has and yet they're fucking UNDERACHIEVERS. Why haven't they improved their shit? And why haven't they added more rotors? God, what is wrong with them.
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>>16284510
I was being a bit facetious with the "50 years old".

Though they were largely 1.3l, besides some early 1.2l ones, there are lots of big changes among them.

Not just from the 13b-REW to Renesis, either, but even among various FC engines there were a number of changes.
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>>16284540
I mean I'm just trying to say it got really annoying seeing them continue to push out tiny, underpowered engines when it's so easy to push out more.
The Wankel gets more for less, but why do they HAVE to be smaller? Why are their engines so tiny? Why won't they add more rotors if they aren't going to increase displacement?

The've made constant improvements to their Wankel design but they've always been too damn conservative. The 13b Renesis was a marvel of engineering at 1.3L 232 bhp, but really, wouldn't it be better with another Rotor? Or two? It would still be smaller than most other sports car engines and outrunning all of them.
It's like they're determined to trick people into not realizing how amazing what they do (or did) is.
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>>16284572
Well yes, the RX-8 should have been a 3 rotor or larger displacement. That engine belonged in a smaller car.

But increasing displacement worsens fuel economy, obviously.
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>>16284631
Rotor deactivation is an option if they choose to increase displacement to make more power. It would be trivial to add an eco mode that lets you putt around town on one or two rotors.
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>>16285943
Yeah, that's very true.

I'd love to see some 3 rotor electric hybrid hypercar. It could just do one combustion cycle per revolution per rotor and use electric power when going around town and should be pretty damn fuel efficient and low emissions as a result.

You also have the benefit of putting more load per combustion cycle for greater volumetric efficiency, doing that.

A rotary engine should handle deactivating a rotor much better than cylinder deactivation as it acts as a very low resistance pump and due to being low compression.
Rotaries are actually used often for pumps and seatbelt tensioners due to that and their compactness.
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>>16280574
maybe americans are really smart and doesnt want gay shit like mazda. Unlike canada which is a true cuck and l country which loves gayzda
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>>16276769
you seem to forget that Toyota "the brand that makes transportation appliances" Corporation is bringing back the supra

Honda brought back the NSX
Subie never dropped the WRX/STI

Mazda is going the way of pontiac and they don't even see it.
""""PERFORMANCE BRAND""""" that doesn't have a worthwhile halo car that carries the banner for fanboys.
Even pontiac managed to cough out the GTO and the Solstice GXP in between gasps of rebadged Cobalts and G6s.

The miata is a great intro sports car, but whats next. Where's the aspirations to greatness.
With the Corvette/911 moving up out of market of the 50-80k range, why does mazda think a $50k sports car won't have a market?
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>>16285972
http://pasmag.com/features/vehicle-features/3721-yuki-kamakuras-1997-maxda-rx7-quad-rotor-26b-jdm-fd3s-rotary
This guy's custom 4 rotor has rotor deactivation so I can only assume it's well within Mazda's ability to include in any future Wankel if they want to.

While I know a hybrid would be the superior car and would solve a lot of the problems inherent to the rotary engine I wouldn't be as keen to buy one as a pure ICE car. Mazda has expressed similar sentiment with regards to building a new RX in that they don't want people to feel like the rotary is being carried by hybridization.
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>>16272516
ROTARY? Where's my damned TURBINE?!
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>>16284312
>The engine can make amazing power, but doesn't efficiently use fuel to do so.
That's pretty much the defining characteristic of rotaries
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>>16284358
>1 series FWD
literally German Civics
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>>16284358
>>16287597
You retards realize the 2 series was literally made to replace the current 1 series, right
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>>16287610
You retard realize that 2 series are either coupes or pigfat MPVs right? They took away our beloved RWD shooting brake with that decision. First Volvo failed us, then Benz, now BMW. Sad.
Eventually the only RWD euro cars will be the Italians.
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>>16287630
>Eventually the only RWD euro cars will be the Italians.
nice FUD there bud
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>>16287630
Nice tits
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>>16289279
ikr
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SO IS IT HAPPENING OR NOT FUCK
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>mazda isn't going back to the rotary engine
Damn. I really wanted to see what 4 factory rotors would do in a new rx.

>this is as close as we'll get
https://youtu.be/5GHi_BaPk8U
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>3 fucking days later people are still falling for clickbait shoddy """journalisim"""
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>>16293788
Mazda should try making a 4 rotor super-ish car.
Something that would compete with the GTR and 911's.
I think people would buy it just for the beehive exhaust note.
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But it's jalopnik
They're a respected, reliable source
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>>16272516
>>no plans for rotary sports car

mfw fucking rotards keep biting on any little bit of press and go ape shit about how the RX is back only to get shit on ever damn time
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>>16272635
>My only long-term goal in life was to buy an RX-9 in 6 years
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>>16293788
>>16293914
>>16293929
>underage murritard mongos don't read the entire thread

Classic burgerscum
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>>16293914
>dorito returns
>not a single rotard can afford one

The shitposting wud b glorious
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>>16279100
>CAD
lol
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>>16294034
Like how burgers on $4/hour at mcdonalds constantly shill corvettes and vipers?
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>>16294061
Pretty much

>inb4 muh six figures shitposter claiming he would buy one
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>>16294078
I would consider leasing one. No way would I trust a rotary after the warranty is up.
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>>16294034
would be hilarious
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>>16294095
My rotary has been out of warranty for near 30 years now and is fine..
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>>16294157
And we all remember how reliable those first few years RX8s were.
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>>16294199
Very reliable
Easily 200k mile plus engine once the cat is ditched and ignition cools upgraded
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>>16294208
>very reliable once you ditch emission equipment add oil to your gas and fix shit mazda should have done anyway
whew lad. enjoy voiding your warranty.
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>>16294218
>voiding your warranty
>implying you don't do that shit after it's over
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>>16272516
Rotards BTFO!!!!
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>>16272516
wish this was more surprising. hopefully they still make a fr sports coupe.
and something rotary+hybrid
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>>16294284
Will they ever recover?
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>>16273037
>pretending literally any other car is better
>pretending
Enjoy your overpriced slowmobile. At least it's new i guess
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>>16272635
>buying a car new
>losing 50% of its resale value in 5years by driving it off the showroom floor
Just get a used C5 Vette

>Solidly on the path to X k/yr
Uni Student detected
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>>16273182
This, there's a reason why old rich often buy used cars
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>>16277800
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>>16286011
>GTO

rebadged holden

>>16286011
>Solstice
rebadged opel

pontiac was worthless after the '60s. The people who actually bought the countless FWD V8 cars they produced had serious genetic defects
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>>16272516
Well, I mean... If they were making an RX9, they would still say no to that question, right? Wouldn't they want to surprise everyone by just dropping the RX9 at an autoshow out of fucking nowhere?
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>>16294920
No investor likes suprises or being lied to. Cars aren't movies or video games.
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>>16282923
That's really not so bad considering

>the 3 is their best selling car
>the new civic just came out, and is even more of a sales monster than usual
>their 3 is also getting a little old at this point and everyone knows it's about to get a refresh

New CX-5 soon also and it's fucking gorgeous. CX-3 is a surprise hit and would've barely been in that report if it was at all.
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>>16272516
who cares that one of the ugliest fucking things i have ever seen in my entire life why on earth would you want it
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>>16277292
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>>16294932
dumbest thing said itt tbqhwy familia
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>>16294996
because muh wanker
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Why is everybody so down on the Supra already?
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>>16294920
>>16294315
>>16294297
>>16294284
Holy shit read the full thread you mongoloids.
They are making it, the interview was poorly translated and assumed that Mazda not wanting to use the rotary as a range extender in a hybrid sports car means no rotary at all.
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>>16295940
Look at any new Toyota
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>>16296756
Good thing Toyota is only bankrolling it.

Superior Deutsche motoren will save it.
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>>16296750
>rotards trying this hard to damage control
Spotted the mazda fangirl. Stay BTFO.
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>>16297899
>furfag

Didn't even read the post.
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>>16297914
>being this assmad
ROTFLMAO, can't make this shit up!
Me>You
V6>Wanker
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Friendly reminder that Mazda stopped being relevant when Ford lost control over it and that the Radical is a Ford.
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>>16297899
>>16297928
>>16297940
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>>16297899
How is that even damage control?
Seems you're pretty spooked that Mazda is continuing the development of the ultimate spinning Dorito engine that's going to completely BTFO whatever bus you ride.
No money for an RX7? Maybe don't spend 3k on a fursuit next time and you might be able to have some fun ;)
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>>16297899
kys furfag
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>>16297961
>Seems you're pretty spooked that Mazda is continuing the development of the ultimate spinning Dorito engine that's going to completely BTFO whatever bus you ride.
The only spooks here are the wanker superiority, the wanker development and yourself.
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>>16297982
No reason to be spooked since it seems like the rotary is coming along nicely :>)
We'll wait to see what's better when it comes out, till then enjoy your """"superior"""" 6cyl mustang.
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>>16298008
>""""superior""""
>implying it isn't the most advanced powerplant in the world
>resorting to shitposting
>pushrod levels of retardation
Ecoboost will just become more and more efficient and powerful and wanker cucks will be left behind. Feels good tbqh famalam.
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>>16298041
>"""""""""Eco"""""""""
>Boost
Pick one. The system was flawed from the beginning.
>But muh ferd ad
>N-no, a turbo 6cyl is the most advanced powerplant in the world
>>most advanced powerplant in the world
Nice how you make fun of Mazda "fanboys" when you're a top tier Ford shill.
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>>16298083
Why do mazda shills keep making these shitposting threads? I'm tired of them running this board into the ground. The Ford GT is a masterpiece. Fuck off.
>mfw i just saw this on facebook
mazda fangirls btfo
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>>16298041
>>16298083

> implying that opposed2 Stoke isn't the most advanced design
> they cannot even make TS3 piston rings anymore, that's how advanced they are
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>>16298094
>>16298098
Ford shills on 100% alert
>The Ford GT will have a starting price of around $400,000, according to Ford Performance boss Dave Pericak.
>>$400,000
Sad how you're talking about something you'll never be able to afford.
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>>16298133
>egg and spoon races
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>>16298133
>projecting
Mazda fangirls on suicide watch
I'm not a Ford shill anon, I do it for free
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>>16297899
>>16297928
>number of ecoboost le mans wins
>ZERO

>number of rotary le mans wins
>only won once before buttmad piston cucks banned rotary for ever

ROFLMAO BTFO NO RECOVERY
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>>16298337
weak b8, stay mad
just wait and see the ferd btfo everyone
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>>16298369
>just wait and see the ferd btfo everyone
you mean like place 18th at le mans and loose alms championship? kek
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>>16298378
the GT isn't even out yet dipshit
stay mad
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>>16298469
and it never will be because its vaporware
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>>16298474
>a car is a music genre
you're getting desperate
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>>16298490
>being this retarded
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>>16298490
honda made a car named after the accordion
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>>16298504
>projecting
>>16298507
an accord is an agreement
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>>16298520
>an accord is an agreement
umm no not in japan
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>>16298525
>The name "Accord" bore Honda's desire for accord and harmony between people, society and the automobile.
http://world.honda.com/news/1997/t970904.html
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>>16298534
>honda and ford gt literally confirmed homo liberal cars
kek
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>>16298539
>and ford gt
where do you get that from, nigger?
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>>16298539
Said the mazda fangirl. See >>16275992
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>>16298551
your the one who bought it up
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>>16298559
Not in relation to the accord, that was the cuck saying it was "vaporwave"
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>>16298570
Vaporware, you dumb cuck. Not Vaporwave. Can you even read?
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>>16298646
kek you might be the easiest person to troll in the whole 4chan
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>>16298673
>person
>implying ledditors are people
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>>16298646
The only vaporware in this thread is the new mazda rotary, kek. Stay btfo fangirls.
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>>16298696
>implying there will ever be one
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>>16299220
I'm not, that's why I'm calling it vaporware
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>>16298685
>le reddit xD
What's up, reddit? Do you redditors resort to call other people the same as you are when you run out of arguments?
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Car throttle just posted an article about it too. WE HAVE TO BE WRONG.
There's no way it's actually happening. All these websites wouldn't run with a false story, that Propulsion interview video has to be bullshit.
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>>16276013
>>16275992
>>16275981
>>16274979
>>16274674
reminder, cuck
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>>16300911
>assmad mazda fangirl posting fake lap times
can't make this shit up lmao
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>>16300926

HEY ALPHONSE!!

HAND OVER THE (You)'s NOW!!
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>>16300911
delete this
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>>16300965
BTFO!!!

FORD IS NOT FASTER AT LEMANS!

TOYOTA CAN'T WIN!

MAZDA STILL SUPREME!
>>
Anyone else who would just like a bigger sports car than the miata in the price range of the genesis or the 370z? something more like a brz done right because it did not go for boxer engine and with superior mazda design. why cant toyota just collaborate with mazda on the 86?
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>>16300935
>HEY ALPHONSE!!
joke's on you, I'm not Alphonse. He probably even likes Mazda, since it's related to Ford.
See >>16300712 and >>16300756.
I hate Nissan and love the Corvette but sometimes I shit on the Corvette with Alphonse pics taken from 4plebs and with his shitposting lingo just to see the world burn. I like trolling even more than I like the Corvette. Sometimes after alphonseposting, I reply to my own posts with an assortment of pics, including this one some kind anon made dispelling with the fiction that the Corvette isn't faster than the GT-R Nismo. The Corvette is exactly faster than the GT-R Nismo. I think anyone who believes that the Corvette isn’t faster than the Nismo doesn’t understand what we’re dealing with here. Okay?
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>>16301059
>I hate Nissan and love the Corvette

oh so you are a cuckold, glad to know so I don't have to lose my time with you

enjoy overheating after a lap
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>>16301062
>you're a cuckold
>said the V6 fangirl
enjoy your meme engine with odd number of cylinders per bank and the unbalance that stems from it, dumb cuck
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>>16278512

Albany is center of both NY railway systems and the river barge system. It's quite easy to get gas here.
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>>16301062
>enjoy overheating after a lap
still faster than the nismo, stay mad cuck
Corvette>you
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>>16301146
>still faster than the nismo
nope. gtr is always faster in head to head comparison on the same day in same conditions with the same driver, so it will always win in a race :^)
keep cherry picking lap times set a year apart or from a modified car tho roflmao
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>>16301159
>looking at lap records is cherripicking lap times
>maintenance such as alignment and balancing is "modification"
>implying it wasn't the same driver
>trying this hard to damage control
Let me know when your beloved Nismo does a faster lap than the Corvette did in Willow Springs
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>>16301159
Actually better yet, let me know when your shitty pigfat japmobile is faster than a $65k Corvette Super Sport
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>>16301176
>Super Sport
you know I meant Grand Sport, I'm sleepy already
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>>16300854
I definitely want to see some clarification on this from Mazda. Someone here is full of shit.
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>>16301203
>Someone here is full of shit.
the rotards of course
it isn't happening, stay btfo lmfao
mazda is the bernie sanders of car manufacturers hahaha
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>>16300854
>car throttle
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