What's the consensus on 90s Firebirds?

Cooler 90's camaros

>>16246951
Unpopular (I think) opinion incoming, they're among the best 90s sports cars

I may be wrong but I think they're also pretty strongly correlated with white trash, which is unfortunate

ugly as fuck so I completely disregard them

the interior is among the worst Ive been in too

I mean ive always wanted to like newer pontiac cars,, always seen them around, but then i look at the styles of cars they used to make and i cri every tyme.

>>16246996
>ugly as fuck

Pleb tier

>>16246951
90s f bodies give me elections desu, I'm in the minority tho

>>16247013
Shit *erections

>>16247013
>90s f bodies give me elections desu, I'm in the minority tho

>Pleb tier

wat

sounds like youre the pleb by your own post

>>16246951
>Wet noodle chassis
>T-tops are cool as fuck
>Better looking than the chevy version
>LT1 and LS1 both great
>Rusts like crazy in salt
>Liftback is surprisingly practical, carry two sets of skis and a passenger as you wrap it around a tree in winter
>Flimsy plastics and shitty electronics, ashtray cover always broken, window motors don't last, stock speakers and stereos never work

I like 'em

>>16246951
ugly like most other cars made by burgers

>>16246951
>top tier engines
>hnng t tops and pop up headlights
>GM ugly flimisiness at its finest

9/10 charming as fuck

>>16246951
Gtg

>>16246951
chintzy interior plastic quality

easy as fuck to make them faster than they already are

pretty vaporwave on the outside

an actual appealing american car

>>16247415
>appealing

How

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>>16247500
The 2002 LS1 models with the nostrils kinda look badass in a way. I'll give it credit for looking original at least. Now all cars look like the same fat shit.

>>16247511
I agree with you, I was just curious on your opinion

Typical gm throwaway garbage for retards in flyover states

the 1991 redesign of the Third gen was downright criminal

thankfully the 4th gen looked good again

I still think the third gen is the best looking one though

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>>16246951
Third gens are more a e s t h e t i c

Also they don't suffer from having a garbage 90's gm interior

>>16247051
I just bought a 95 Camaro recently and literally this entire post has happened


called chevy asking about a new window regulator and they only sell replicas for $150+

>>16247660
Its literally the opposite of what you said with the interiors

>>16247660
Wait nvm I thought you meant 90s camaro was better than 90s firebird interior.

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Since this is Pontiac related, can I get some spicy opinions on the 89 Trans Am?

>>16249075
Like most burger cars from the 80s, cool look, shit tier everything else

>>16246986
They are absolutely one of the best cars of the 90s.
>>16249075
KNIGHT RIDER [EXHALE]
A SHADOWY FLIGHT INTO THE LIFE OF A MAN..... WHO DOES NOT EXIST.

Get a 350 auto if you get one. 305 is junk and manual in third generation is made of glass.

>>16249075
less ugly than the 90s but awful in pretty much every way

>>16246951
90s cars are so polarizing, its pretty interesting

I like the style, its like future design concepts from the 80s

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>>16246951
As others have said (and more)
>window motors a shit
>optispark a shit
>rear end a shit
>wet noodle chassis
>LT1 torque machine 7/10
>interior pretty nice IMHO
>looks better than the equivalent camaro
>Just enough power to do some nice skids

8/10 car overall

>>16249333
Get the manual anyway, makes swapping a T56 easier.

>>16249333
Get the manual anyway, makes swapping a T56 easier.

>>16246951
They grow on you in my experience. I found the 4th gen Firebirds to initially be very ugly but over time I grew to like their appearance. Still dislike the melted shape though.

>>16247556
Throwaway garbage that is still setting drag car records.

>>16249922
no one cares about racecars theyre irrelevant

these things are shit

>>16249934
>can double as a street car and drag car with a little mods and a tune
>inexpensive platforms
>lots of bang for the buck
>LT/LS1 still run down modern 8 cylinders
>huge aftermarket parts selection
>shit

You sound like the typical turbo 4 cylinder fanboy who has an aneurysm every time he gets run down by a NA F body

Either that or a booty-blasted 4.6 fag.

>>16249971
meh

you just described about every cheap popular tuner car ever

their quality is still immensely shit

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>>16249990
>every cheap popular tuner

Implying any random "popular tuner" can run 10s while being NA.

>>16250339
even a Civic can do that

>>16250345
With what? A d series that's gutted and modded to all hell?

There are Lt1s running 10s with an intake, headers, some decent tires and maybe some mild cam work.

>>16249990
You're an idiot enough talk from you.

>>16250387
B H or K series

depends on the engine but its not like it takes anything different on those Hondas to run 10s maybe add in some headwork injectors and a tune

all motor hondas easily make the power to do it these days

>>16250389
also

fuck off fanboy

these cars are so ugly that I wouldnt care if they ran top fuel times

>>16250422
But it's like I've said, you get more bang for the buck, it's way cheaper and easier to buy any F body with an Lt1 and mod it to run 10s rather than buying and modding an NA Honda 4 cylinder.

I'm not downing on Honda engines, I'm just saying if you want a quick, NA car that can achieve 10 seconds with little work than the F body is the better option.

Now a turbo Honda on the other hand...

>>16250444
I agree with you

All motor Honda is just an expensive way to go slow

I dont care for NA in any application tho even if I was doing up a V8 Id go nitrous

>>16250439
You are in the minority. The only people that hate the Fbody are butthurt ricers from the 90's and unfortunately that's most of /o/

>>16250471
not really

most people I know think theyre ugly

are they at my level to where I consider them one of the ugliest cars ever produced? probably not

>>16250471
This
>>16250481
Shit taste desu

>>16250496
nah

its truly one of the most atrocious cars ever made

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>>16250520
t. Low test ricer fag

Shit b8

>>16250585
t. fatty fucker

shit taste

if you ls swap a sunfire, is it a firebird?

>>16250590
I dont think you can do anything to a Sunfire that would get it called anything other than Shitfire

>>16246951
trash

>>16250589
>>16250609
Same fag

Lo test, shit b8, bad taste

>>16250590
Its a shitty one yea

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>>16250625
nah

not everyone likes fatasses

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It's like a burgers take on an rx7.

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02 WS6 owner of almost 10 years here.

Most of them have it right, there are some minor drawbacks, but they really are minor when compared to the pros;

>Motor and trans crafted by God
>Endless mods with almost limitless potential
>Seating position is like a fighter jet
>Minor suspension mods amd it will handle very well

If you get kne you will not be disappointed. 9/10 car imo and I've experienced a lot of different cars.

>>16250774
Not even close.

Rx7s look like over fed miatas.

>>16248116
Replace the doors with hand crank ones.

>>16250957
Easier said than done, anon.

>>16251075
http://www.camarozone.com/forum/f20/write-up-how-make-your-own-passenger-window-fix-23707/

I wanted one for the longest time but for some fucking reason in Canada a LS1 trans am is $20000 and a C5 vette is $15000...why

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>>16250892
>02 WS6 owner of almost 10 years here.
Nice, you don't want to get rid of yours either huh? Had my 98 since 03. What all you replaced? My ps pump just puked fluid all over my alternator and im replacing both. Do your own work?

>If you get kne you will not be disappointed. 9/10 car imo and I've experienced a lot of different cars.
Yup.

>>16246951
I really like the styling, it looks intimidating as fuck, like some shit out of code geass

>>16252303
>its just like my Japanese animes
GM Fangirls, everyone.

>>16247511

>Now all cars look like the same fat shit.

Unfortunately that's the tradeoff for not automatically dying if you flip the things.

I'm pretty sure them increasing the size of the various pillars, among other parts of the body, is actually required by law now...at least in Burgerland.

>>16252326
As opposed to the JDM fanboys who pleasure themselves to pictures of Paul Walker's Supra?

>>16252378
>American Muscle Cuck
20 hp per liter sounds great eh

I'd get one of those with the nostrils if it wasn't because of gas price and the fact that in my country it belongs to the "first car for an edgy teenager" starter pack along with the silverado 1500 1999.

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>>16246951
WS6es make me cum so hard, I just love the sound the LS1 makes

>>16252392
God no. They're just as bad as you!

>>16246951
One of the few american cars I wouldn't mind to have

>>16248116
How can type this when youre wrapped around thw tree?

>>16247660
Nice Camero there.

>>16250774
You'd have much better luck comparing an FD FX7 and a C5 Corvette.

>>16247511
Had an identical one, except with a t56 and the stock ws6 pack wheels, and the hood wasn't fucked...but it was ram air. Also glass t tops.

Anyways, it sat low and felt good to drive, but was a bit loose. Got incredible LS1 gas mileage, but was slow as fuck.

Probably the most beautiful car i've driven, but so overrated power wise. Literally raced it with a good driver in my 2v gt and was the same speed. Of course, any LS forum or fanboy will claim they are faster than all things ever made.

>>16253634

>Literally raced it with a good driver in my 2v gt and was the same speed.

My gf owned a 2v gt. Worse mileage and nowhere near as fast as the ls1.

>>16253634
Sounds like your car may have had a problem tbqh

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Just got done swapping out my alternator for a truck unit. 145 amps instead of 103, should let my battery last a bit longer and run my cockpit electronics without as much strain on the electrical system. Not hard to work on either.

>>16255607
what was the baseball bat and cat for?

>>16246970
hahah this, sorry catfish

>>16249363
I was in a race with those two cars, my ex gf had a White(not an anniversary edition) '97 T/A 6spd.

>out driving one night
>pull up on a viper
>know I have no chance but wanna see how fast it is
>rev the engine
>he looks over and gives me the nod
>light turns green
>get the best launch I've got in that car until then
>he still smokes the shit out of me

Good times.

>>16253634
A stock LS1 leaves a stock 2V like nobodies business, and I'm a Ford guy. I was door to door with New Edge Mustang in my ex's LT1 T/A and I got roasted by an LS1 Z/28 in it. So your story holds little water.

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>>16255644
I beat her when she doesn't listen to me. Nah, the hood struts aren't as strong in the cold and I use the bat to keep the hood propped just in case. I've had a hood fall on my head before, not very nice.

The four-ways still out from working on the jeep.

>>16250774
RX7 never impressed me

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Well seeing as we're talkling about late 90's gm cars, what does /o/ think about the 90's impala ss? I never see anyone here post about them.