Why are GT86 fanboys so retarded ?

>>16245737
He's right though

Toyota > Honda

>>16245737
well op it's on LTT, what did you expect ?

Honda just doesn't give a shit about gaijin export market. All their good cars have always been domestic market

>>16245783
True facts

Even the euros get better models that us

>>16245737
like u could just post a track time and BTFO the GT86

>>16245737
The insight is the prius, what a fucking retard.

No really, how do you think the CRZ is the analogue for the base hybrid econobox?

>>16246073
To be fair no one is really sure what the CRZ is an analogue for. I test drove one when I was shopping around, the handling is kinda mediocre, the electric boost thing is kinda cool but it still is slower than a 2.5 Golf. Is it a sports car? Is it a hybrid? Is it a meme box? WHAT IS THE CRZ SUPPOSED TO BE.

>>16245783
>>16245873
I thought it was because the US has draconian emissions and safety requirements plus the fact very few people buy manual transmission cars

>>16246027

>Post lap times
>"Its not about times! Its about a subjective feeling that you can't quantify so I'm right and you're still wrong wrong!"

Everytime.

>>16246086
Supposed to be a fun hybrid. Supposed to be a fun, responsive shitbox with good gas mileage.

The only way they saw to do that was to make a hybrid considering today's absurd safety standards and the like that drag mpg further and further down.

I can say for sure that it is by far the most fun hybrid, especially considering it's a manual. However, that only matters if you're DETERMINED to get a hybrid - when compared to "normal" cars, it falls short completely. It only fulfills its purpose inside of a bubble.

>>16246087
Might be something to do with it, BMW has fucked its American customers over since the 90's, keeping its good models and engines over there.

>>16246088
It's not wrong, though. The base toyobarus aren't really about lap times, they're just supposed to be >fun.

The upside is that they've got a decent platform to build on, so if you want to make one for lap times you can pump an extra 300 hp in it, or if you want to make a drift missile, you can do that too.

>>16245737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz8iKeHAckg&t=6s
nipon BTFO

>>16246486
>BMW has fucked its American customers over since the 90's
They did that with one car and it was about cost, not safety or emissions.

>>16246087
yeah

the ep3 wasn't _that_ successful since it only came in manual

>>16246525
Thing is the Miata does that better

>>16247729
>Why would anyone buy a Prius over a McLaren P1

Why are these people allowed to live?

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>>16245737
This guy is a retard

>>16247891
Sure, but now there's at least an option other than the Miata.

>>16247897
They're usually 12-14 and don't understand how money works

It's really not fair to compare the LFA and NSX with low budget cars why are these people always so autistic

>>16246140

they should've either
made the supercharged version a trim rather than an option that most people didn't know about
or keep it as it as and make it rwd

kinda pointless now,cool nonetheless if you're buying it used
i kinda wish they put some work into making it a good car,there's potential

>>16248509
Honda does FWD, it's kinda their thing.
However, Honda also makes high-revving enthusiast cars that sing the more you push them.

The CRZ in that sense is a disappointment. From first hand experience, it caps out at 5.5k RPM. It needs VTEC. If it had the IMA that their hybrids do but BOLTED ON to a VTEC motor, that had good responsive low-end torque and high-end responsiveness and power, it would have been perfect mark my words.

The actual car is good, comfy, handles well, nice gear box. Needs a better motor.

Fuel economy AND power are possible, they were just regards about it.