Why are they so shit at everything?

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Why are they so shit at everything?

>>16220120
Worst of Europe + Worst of America

>>16220125
Americans will buy literal shit because Murika.

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Why are they so great at everything?

>>16220120
Fiats shit

>>16220125
GM's shit

>>16220152
Oh, look! Ford is great.

Yeah, this thread isn't Ford shilling gone stealth or anything

>>16220196

why isn't china so great?

>>16220202
chinese people i guess

>>16220202
Because ford is the new china

>>16220259
Mexico is the new ford.

>>16220202

because they literally don't care if they run someone over

>b-but muh liability laws

only a fucking shithole of a country would even have laws like that

>Chrysler
Good engines, shit transmissions, shit bodies, shit interiors.

>GM
Good drivetrains, okayish bodies, shit interiors.

>Ford/Mazda
Same as GM and Chrysler except EVEN WORSE electrical systems

>AMC
Chrysler transmission, Ford electrics, Renault engine management. God dammit AMC.

>Toyota
Underpowered but super reliable cheap shitboxes

>Nissan
Same as Toyota

>Honda
Super easy to work on, reliable, cheap. The owners are the worst part about these cars

>Subaru
Massively overrated head bolt stretching pieces of shit

>Fiat
Shit then, shit now. Forever shit.

>Mercedes
Decent enough diesels, everything else is overengineered.

>Volkswagen
Overengineered to the point of unusability

>BMW
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


TL;DR every manufacturer is shit.

>>16220437
>>Nissan
>Same as Toyota
You mean "Toyota for scum"

>>16220448
Is there even reason to this or is it just shitposting

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>>16220120
>everything

>>16220437
>>Nissan
>Same as Toyota

I would put them in the GM camp because you know.. they usually rank slightly above or below GM in meme reports.

>>16220120
All manufacturers are shit. All cars are engineered by fuccbois who have never turned a wrench a day in their life, but had enough money to get a engineering degree. If oem's required 5+ years as a tech before possibility of engineer it would solve a fuckton of problems.

>>16220468
>fca had anything to do with this

Because fiat currency

>>16220493

t. massimo venterelli, fiat factory foreman

>>16220608
>t. massimo venterelli
Google doesn't say shit about this guy, who is he.

>>16220468

>SRT
>Ram

they create brands because they've spent the past 4 decades destroying their existing brands by selling absolutely awful cars.

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>>16220120

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>>16220493
I should not have to tell you who is behind the corner cutting and penny pinching on a 1 cent per 10000 yards of wiring loom used

also note the effect of mass production and just in time production
on a higher level its possible to assemble things quicker than they can be disassembled that is if they can be disassembled at all

you just have to give up servicing and repairability
but hey the moment the car is sold that is not your problem any more

and if you can ignore the massive rubbish dump
service life and non recyclable parts is a non issue

Its all fun and games until you have to drop the engine with the sub frame just to replace a starter motor.

>>16221860
Tell me what engine that is so I can stay far the fuck away from it.

>>16220437
>Chrysler
>Good engines

stopped reading right there

>>16223112
Exhaustive list of good Chrysler engines;
4.0L High Output I6
3.8L 60deg V6
2.4L EDZ Turbo I4

And that is it. The 4.0L isn't even theirs.

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Point out a single flaw in their new products.
Protip: You can't.

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>>16220120
>Why are they so shit at everything?
it's in the name, really

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>>16223127
>Put a turbo in a miata
>slower than the original

>>16220437
>>Nissan
>Same as Toyota
is this guy seriously implying that Nissans are super reliable? Did this really just happen?

>>16223127
>>16223129
>>16223132
>>16223134
there's nothing good about these cars.

>>16223038
According to Google, a 1997 Cadillac Deville

>>16223038
Northstar

The starter in the valley is the least of their issues

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>>16220120
>Why are they so shit at everything?
Because the merged company gets run as if were the old Fiat company. But that old Fiat company was for a different customer environment which could tolerate cars that broke down a lot. Those old Fiats from the 1990's were often mocked because they were not cars you kept forever.

That Fiat mindset of making a car just good enough to last no more than a figurative 10 years or so as the endpoint means some cars are definitely going to become unreliable well before 10 years statistically speaking.

So, FCA continues to look for a buyer. But who would dare buy it? The buyer would have to assume all those benefit debts and pensions of former employees. It would be better if all the buyers simply behaved like vultures and waited for FCA to decline to the point of unsustainability. Then they can just buy up the dealership locations piecemeal at great cost savings. Those employees can lose their benefits and pensions which would be a huge cost savings to the corporate buyers.

>>16220139
>Worst of Europe + Worst of America

Came in to say this. When you combine a dumpster fire and a shit puddle, what did you expect?

>>16223335
A dumpster with burn marks that smells of shit.

Which is very typical, actually.

>>16223326
FCA has an operating profit of $6 billion and increasingly higher profit margins, why would the Agnelli family want to sell it?

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>>16223144
>Can't name a a single flaw
BTFO

>>16223125

Are their V8s not good?

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>>16223709
v8s were never good

>>16223596

>Chrysler
>Can't into electrical
>Their best engine is made by Cummins
>Their second best engine was designed by AMC

They're the automotive manufacturer equivalent of that one cousin who never really gets their shit together and seems to sustain themselves on a constant supply of meth and petty theft.

>>16220437
>GM
>good bodies
>Nissan
>underpowered
>hates Subaru