LAND BARGE

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>>16219148
I'm saving up for an panther as well
Barges ftw

Is there any other semi recent landbarge aside the fleetwood, the roadmaster, and the lexus ls. Also if its fwd its not a landbarge.
>inb4 740 and s-class

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Would you consider the MKZ a land barge?

It's larger than its competitors

I might get a continental when they depreciate under 20 which should be like a year

>>16219217

>no v8
>fwd
The only thing ressembling to landbarge on the market is a charger with a v8

>>16219238
This.
Land barges are a dying breed sadly.

dont think there are many senoirs on /o/

>>16219285
Are you kidding? Half of this board is Mexican.

>>16219298
but how many of them are seniors

not many I bet

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Does this count?

>>16219325
Just about all of them. Girls aren't into cars.

>>16219376
Oh, that better be diesel for the ultimate in malaiseyness.

>>16219208
>semi recent
Panthers were made right up to 2011, dude.

>tfw you will never own a Marauder and swap the ugly Crown Vic front end for a 98-03 Marquis wide-headlight front

>>16219470
>ever wishing the diesel 350 on anyone for any reason
Jesus Christ anon.

>>16219376
I fucking love lanbarges and USA cars, if I would get my drivers license 1 mont earlier than I did I would buy oldsmobile delta 88 with 350 petrol v8 similar year to yours, 4 door, for my first car in yurop. I know a chance like this will never come again for a price like it did. 2 years later and I'm still mad and carless. Nice car anon by the way.

>>16219516
was the 350 diesel getting at least better mileage ?

>>16219672
yes

>>16219217
when the new contis do depreciate, we will be in a new era of cheap barges <3

>>16219672
Not really. They were also really fucking awful engines period, basically a Rocket 350 gasoline engine that they kludged into a diesel engine. Lots of known failure points and few of them were ever taken care of properly because everyone including the mechanics serviced them like a normal gas engine.

>>16219514
I didnt mention them because they are a meme(not in a bad way) here.

LS400 > Panthershit

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>>16219148
I used to have a Mark VIII. I loved that thing, despite its flaws. The electrical system and air ride system were utter shit and had to eventually sell it due to too many bugs popping up. None of the door sensors worked right, the ignition coils were always failing, had to replace the air compressor twice, has to replace multiple air shocks, the gauge cluster would stop working sporadically...

It was a great car that was built poorly.

>>16219208
Get a holden statesman, wk ones are nice boats, wm is bloaty though

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So I just picked up a 94 towncar. What are the problems to look for?

what should I sell my 98 deville for?

deville has 82k miles and towncar has 74k, both are immaculate.

Are land barges fun to drive? Considering a crown vic for my first car because the amount of retired interceptors in the used market has made the price for them so low.

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>>16220605
91-95 4.6's all burn oil due to shitty valve stems seals. EGR passages will probably be clogged up too.

Other then that there decent cars.

>tfw I finally had to put away my Town Car for winter.

>>16220808
Fun? No, not really. They're just really comfy.

>>16220808
If you want a panther buy something nicer than an old vomit comet.

It will be shit regardless, but at least you don't look like a whacker in a Grand Marq or Town Car.

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>>16220808
Big boaty cars are nice because they are comfy. I drI've a lot of 10hr trips and countless 2-6 hour trips. You need comfort for that.

No it isn't gonna do sick drifts or beat track times but your back won't hurt when you get out.

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MOTHERFUCKING SS OUTTA NOWHERE

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do jap barges count?

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>>16220965
Why couldn't GM Have treated the 90's caprice like Ford did with the Crown Vics? Keep that sexy design and just make steady improvements over the years?

Id love a modernized 90's style Caprice/impala ss.

>>16220927
>No it isn't gonna do sick drifts or beat track times but your back won't hurt when you get out.
They'll do sick burnouts with a simple brakestand, though.

>>16221189
More money to be made in SUV's.

>>16221319
sadly yes.

>>16221323
I'm still surprised Ford kept the panther for as long as they did. Hell, it had the same body for 20 years. It, the Ranger, and Econoline were all left for dead essentially.

>>16221338
the last couple of years was pretty much just fleet sales for taxi and police use. Crown Vic was just a solid car all around. why mess with a good thing.

>>16220927
Mine does sick drifts and isn't comfy really, head touches the roof and i'm normal height

>>16220965
wrong ss mate

>>16220605
Cheap ass plastic intake manifold cracks eventually. Otherwise they're pretty good cars.

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No but I'm on the unstoppable Lexus train

>>16221848
Hey, that's a pretty nice Camry you got there

>>16221864
>implying that's a bad thing

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On a side not, I want a house with a semi-circular driveway

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Daily reminder the Lincoln Mark line is THE BEST line of automobiles in history.

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>>16220530

Man, I feel sorry for high mileage Mark VIII owners.
My Mark VII has really low miles and a motor that is cheap as fuck.

All the mark VIIIs have been ran up on the odometer because they were phenomenal cars until shit started shorting out and the bags needed replacement.
Speaking of which, I replaced my bags, shit so easy I didn't even have to take my wheels off.

>>16222016
Lower right looks like a retarded Aurora.

>>16221538
damn thats a great picture

>>16222123

It really does, but surprisingly it has a 4.6L 4 Valve motor on it.
It's very quick, and came out with 280 horsepower in 1993. Some stories claim it would do 170 with near stock. Mirrors removed, lowered, and speed tape.
Quite an impressive car if it wasn't so fucking ugly, fat, and American for most of the people here.

>>16222217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0qMqpNfnQ
even clarkson loved them

>>16222016
might be

>>16221531
>wrong ss mate

Take your faggy ass australian Chevy SS and fuck yourself. Impala SS was the last true american Land Barge before becoming a bitch shadow of its former self.

>>16220817
do you know where to get that fake wood stuff? Would I just have to buy the wood vinyl and make the moulding by hand?

>>16222245
>7.0L V8

C'mon.

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>>16223079
Honestly, I'd just get a custom vinyl made.

>>16223079
>fake wood stuff
It's called Di-Noc. There's all kinds available but apparently some grains aren't easy to get anymore. This thread talks about some choices

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=145609

WHY DRIVE AUTO????

>>16223393
Because almost none of these cars came with a manual transmission, genius

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>>16223393
?

>>16223483
Ok but that is a custom job, not from factory

>>16223491
Ya, but it's an easy swap. And after I sold the AOD I pretty much broke even.

If you want to gear jam in your landyacht there's no reason you can't.

>>16223386
Di-noc is a brand of vinyl. They also make carbon fiber print.

>>16223393
>4000 pound land barge with a lazy V8 meant exclusively for cruising
Why the fuck would you want it stick?

Especially if you've got the column shift. Column shifters are fucking love.

>>16223393
You clearly don't understand the purpose of these cars

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>>16223550
It can be fun, but for cruising around an auto is where it's at.

I've left my Town Car bone stock for just that reason. It's slow, handles terrible, has horrendous brakes, but its still comfy as fug.

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>>16219208
>>16220251
The 90's Caprice is an underrated landbarge IMO. Shame people didnt like it's styling at the time.

>>16219217
no. just a large sedan.

Land barge is a very specific combination of very long and large car, with a large lazy V8 in the front, and RWD. Styling varies, but more often than not it follows some variation of 3 box design, where the trunk and hood are a seperate entity from the cabin, unlike most cars today that integrate the trunk into the cabin in an attempt to emulate coupe styling (think ford fusion, for example)

>>16222027
mark VII is an underrated car. I briefly looked for one alongside typical town cars and GrM's

>>16223637
True Land barges died in 77 and 79, the B body, and Panther however lived on in spirit with under powered v8's (at least until the LT1 for GM), ancient BOF construction, live axle RWD, ect...

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>>16223647
Their neat cars, but like every old luxury car have their flaws, mainly that their just a pigfat foxbody.

I liked my Turbo Coupe better.

>>16223604
It's weird because it looks so similar to the aero Crown Vics (especially around the rear windows) and those sold like hotcakes.

Roadmasters look better anyway.
>tfw no woodie roadie wagon

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>>16220808
depends what you consider fun. I have fun driving my Grand Marquis, but really for psychological reasons. When everyone around you is a bar of soap or 4 cylinder shitbox, having a gargantuan car with the trunkspace for about 5 dead bodies and the heart of a sleepy mustang with the power to back it up, and the comfort of a couch on wheels, it's a special kind of feeling. I get a big grin on my face when i drive it.

There's someone at my job that has a Prius with a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker, and I like to park near them for the psychological high of parking my big powerful American V8 boat next to their commie shitbox.

Call it autism, but fuck the car is satisfying to drive.

Also column shifters are underrated, imo.

>>16223661
>Panther however lived on in spirit with under powered v8's (at least until the LT1 for GM), ancient BOF construction, live axle RWD, ect...
Don't forget column shifts, bench seats, multiple cigarette lighters and ash trays for everyone, a trunk you can store a subcompact in, and body panel gaps you can stick your dick through.

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>>16223678
I always thought aero vic's looked better, and had the better interior. Obviously the 94-96 B bodies had the much better engine.

My buddy in college had a rotted out 93 roadmaster, straight piped L05, pretty much the /o/ wet dream

>>16221189
because nobody wanted it. the early 90's caprice was soundly beaten by the Crown Vic in all areas. SPECIFICALLY in fleet use, which is the sole reason the Panther lasted as long as it did.

they stopped making Caprices in the mid 90's because their mid sized cars sold better, and demand shifted from large sedans to SUV's, along with GM already being in financial trouble, which meant they couldnt afford to keep trying to keep it alive.

Also at the time, reviewers didnt like it's styling, and said it looked like a "beached whale".

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>>16223693
>tfw you get in and cozy yourself up and turn the heat on and hear that CHHK-CHHK-CHHK as you row through the gears

>>16223678
they really do not resemble each other at all. And Aerovics were smaller than the caprice. Certainly shorter. And their styling particularly in the front was what sold them. they looked like aerodynamic sedans. the styling was also based on the Taurus, which had been a massive hit.

>>16220530
I've never heard of Mark VIIIs having more serious electrical problems than any other comparable car. I drive one myself, and while you need to replace the bags every 15 years (fronts are including the shock absorbers that you would replace around that time anyway), the car has no real weakness. They are excellent cars, especially for what you are paying for one at the moment.

>>16223716
Nobody wanted it? Beaten by the Crown Vic in all areas? What the hell are you smoking?

>>16223814
It's not a problem specific to Mark 8's. My Mark 8 that I talked about up there only had 70k miles on it when all that shit started happening, which is rather ridiculous. Also my mom had a Continental around the same year as well as a Mark 7 that both had a lot of the same electrical issues. They just had really shitty electrical systems in general.

>>16219238
Chevy ss

>>16223831
Look, it was an ugly car. Deal with it.

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Not sure if this counts as a barge, about a foot shorter than a Panther.

>>16223239
yeah I know he fucked that one up but still...

>>16224161
6 or 8 cyl?

honestly I wouldnt count it because it's not really long enough. but its still comfy euro luxury

>>16221864
Shit son you got no idea

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Just got one of these off an old dude with a freshly-rebuilt engine. First time I ever felt a properly-working Northstar and goddamn is it smooth. If they had just put a de-tuned LS4 in these things people would love them.

>>16221848
Luv the LS.

>>16224121
Too sporty to be a barge. The SS is a sport sedan in the same league as the BMW M5. In fact, it's often compared to the M5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbLweooe3aM

>>16227326
mean machine, only saw one in yurop though, the interesting part was the caddy dts parked behind him, I came in my pants that day

>>16219238
Chrysler 300

>>16227808
Too small

>>16219238
The new V8 Cadillac CT6

>>16227836
it probably won't get a v8, cadillac engineers are somehow to much in love with l4 and v6s

>>16227326
Northstar engine would be so nice if it wasn't a colossal load of broken horseshit on every car it taints

>>16227858
Supposedly next years model will get a twin turbo DOHC 4.2l V8. Not exactly landbarge material, but at least it's a V8.

Still regret not buying 2002 Buick Park Avenue with 80k miles for 2k while I had the chance. Seller was a very suspicious negro, but the car looked almost perfect.

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I daily drive a Roadmaster sedan and if anyone can find a LT1 powered example with low miles they should buy it. It's an Impala SS in old guy suspenders. I used to have a Fleetwood from the same year and it's almost 2 feet bigger

>>16228041
oh really? I know they were talking about twin turbo 3.7, I've never heard about 4.2, anyway I hope you are right, I think their sales would be bigger in europe with a v8, you can get stupid l4, v6s and disgusting diesels with german cars.

>>16224126
>my shit opinion is what matters, deal with it, cis scum!

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Im pretty tempted to start a car company just to bring back full sized rwd sedans... and a few other neglected areas of the car world. But then I think "these cars dont exist anymore for a reason" and I get sad.

>>16228886
dont forget regulations and safety standards and such are also one of the reasons. its not just demand and trends

>>16223693
This is why I want to buy this '97 town car that's been on CL for $1,400 for a couple months recently.

>>16227833
It's a Charger with a body kit.

>>16228168
I black out my headlights so they WORK WORSE.

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>>16229120
$1400 is a pretty good price. What's it's condition? Does it have pics? what can you tell from them? anything the owner notes?

IMO, the Town Car peaked with the second gen's design. It's really a great design. Only thing I can say about Towncars is that i think they have their own unique shit compared to the Crown Vic and Grand Marq. (I say this out of my ass, just because the crown vic and GrM share the same repair manual but the Town Car isn't included. any people who actually know things feel free to correct me)

if it's in good shape with no major issues you can't go wrong with at least a test drive to see how it's doing, then maybe sealing the deal if you like it.

Common issue is a sagging rear suspension, because that will invariably go bad, and so when you turn the car on you have to wait a bit for the air shocks to inflate, but it's honestly ignorable, and it can be fixed by yourself if you buy a new pair of the things.

>>16228886
I would pull the lever.

Fuck people. Misanthropy ftw.

>>16219148
I've been looking for a decent B-Body barge FOREVER. Unfortunately the ones I find for sale are always
-in a state of deep derepair (i.e. blown motor, tranny, or covered in rust)
-donked and modded by nig nogs to the point of no return
-in meticulous shape, but owner is asking some ridiculous 5 figure price because "muh rare classic kar"
a few nice ones show up every once in a while but someone else buys it or the owner doesn't respond to any messages about the car

>>16230440
>Only thing I can say about Towncars is that i think they have their own unique shit compared to the Crown Vic and Grand Marq. (I say this out of my ass, just because the crown vic and GrM share the same repair manual but the Town Car isn't included. any people who actually know things feel free to correct me)
You're correct- Grand Marquis and Crown Victorias share tons of parts, up to and including interior trim parts and entire body panels depending on year, while Town Cars tend to have lots of little 'luxury' details that are unique to the car, and body parts can't be changed around as easily. This is especially true from 03 onwards where the CV and MGM got even more similar, while the Town Car branched off into the rounded abortion-mobile in an attempt to call itself luxury.

The drivetrains are the same, but Town Cars are also more likely to have the luxury shit you don't want, like the air bad suspension that will always, ALWAYS go bad and require replacement.

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>>16230624
the '03 facelift was fine, it more closely resembled it's 2 cousins. It was arguably a return to form after the initial third gen redesign that looked like a jellybean

>>16230624
pretty sure all the panthers, or at least most versions, of the Vic, marquis and TC- had the airbag suspension. It was mostly fleet versions that opted out. (such as police that instead got heavy duty suspension)

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oh yes

>>16230864
>FWD V6
>only about 20 inches longer than a 4th gen civic

there is nothing landbarge about an Acura Legend

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>>16230719
All of them could be had with airbags, it's just a matter of market segment. If you're buying a Town Car you're already getting the luxury variant, and you're probably going all out with the bells and whistles while you're at it.

>>16230712
That rear end though, ugh.

>>16230924
>only 20 inches

>>16221538
Hey, do you perchance live in MN?
Or are any of those vehicles in the pic yours?

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>>16230925

It feels like somewhere in development they mixed it up and gave the next gen Town Car's rear end to the Grand Marquis, and to save face and not have the same rear end on the Town Car, they just removed the connecting bar.

Which is worse, because instead it now resembles a Crown Vic.

They should have done this instead

>>16231022
Shit, I can completely see what you mean. Also I love the older Marquis with the full width reflectors like that- it's funny how you can clearly see the chrome strip above the license plate get smaller with each generation.

>Box Marquis: Wraps around the entire taillight assembly, down the sides and across the bottom
>Aero Marquis: Wraps around the entire taillight assembly, stops at the corners
>Whale Marquis 98-02: Strip across the top of the plate, cuts into the brakelights
>Whale Marquis 03+: Strip doesn't even reach the brakelights and the cool tilted reflector strips are gone, eventually the reflector areas themselves disappear so it looks just like a Crown Vic

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>>16231048
ive been tempted to get this but I know it would make me look like a tacky nigger.

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>>16231072
That just looks silly.

I really don't like the chrome strip on the 03+ models, it just looks retarded how it stops before it even reaches the end of the reflectors and has that weird curve up that doesn't line up with anything.

IMO the front end on the older ones looks better as well, still having its own identity and heavily resembling the aero Marquis without being forced into the short Crown Vic style headlights. Although I might be biased due to owning an '01 myself.

why's there no 4" lift for the panthers

>>16220605
Keep the deville it's worth more to have than to sell. You get 2k for it on a good day if it's mint.

>>16231093
no, as an '03 owner I agree with you. the pre 03 GM looks best.

>>16221987
My parents had one. It was kinda a pain when they had a lot of people over because inevitably someone would get parked in.

>>16229991
Exactly. Too small. It's a midsize sedan

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Can i play?

Plot twist it can turn 245's all round

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My baby.
1989 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series
5.0 V8 ~ 140 HP (If even that)
LAND. YACHT.
Got this thing for $300 from an old widowed lady

>>16231852
The best part about land barges is discussing exactly how little power they make.

>yeah it's got the 4.6, like the mustang GTs
>cool! how much power does it make?
>[laughter]

>is it at least good on gas?
>[continued laughter]

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>>16231872
Surprisingly it isnt TERRIBLE on gas, 15 city 22 hwy
(Pic just interior shot cause why tf not)

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Get a real car you poorfaggotes
Stupid Ford American fleet junk

>>16231878
god that looks comfy

>>16231904
It is. Extremely, I would post more pics but they are too big and I dont wanna resize the pic, but ant questions about the Town Car, please ask!

>>16231878
Get a haircut, hippie.

>>16231910
What do all those buttons on the dash do? Digital dashboard readout?

>>16231916
No.

>>16231918
Yes, digital dash, many options for the buttons from date and time, mileage, kmh/mph, average speed, "ETA" and other VERY tedious things.

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>>16231925
Any pics of it all lit up? I've got the digidash in my 01 MGM but it would weird me out having it split into segments like that.

>>16231946
No, sadly. It wouldnt look all that well anyways cause my fuel sensor is fucked and it doesnt show on display. So I have to write down all of my mileage and I get AROUND 250 miles to a tank. Every now and then, the fuel display will try to light up during startup but eventually dies out. I have had this thing for over a year now and STILL have no clue what the problem is. Oh well

>>16227858
Probably because there is literally no objective reason to use a V8 in a comfy car nowadays.

>>16231955
have you tried a mechanic? sounds stupid, but you never know.

what do you suppose would happen if you took it in to ford and asked them to look at it?

having a busted fuel sensor sounds totally tedious to calculate milage

>>16229114
>short wheel base

yaaaas

>>16219217
Nice jaguar knockoff

>>16231878
Adipose face detected


Is there a hook inside to hang your fedora?

>>16231886
>calling people poorfags

>has 25 year old shitbarge with mexican / gypsy tier rear window decals in some sort of gothic script spelling out "eastbay lowrydaz", "hatters tears", or "Rodriguez".

Keep peddling those nickle bags bro!

>>16231892
Stancefags need to die.

This would look good if it was stock ride height.


So would ypur ball caps if the bill wasn't flat.

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Nippon land barges always win.

>>16219816
No

You will be in an era of niggers ruining any brand value that ford was able to salvage in the Lincoln nameplate.

Those things are the new 300c.

>shieet looks like a bently n shieet

>>16231111
I want to keep it but I'm in college and have no money or space.

>>16232040
I think it is, I want a big v8 in yurop and that glorious sound you can hear it on our street a few times a month with all our streets filled with diesel and gas l4 shitboxes

>>16232511
keep dreaming bud

>>16232716
>I want a big v8 in yurop
good luck with that.

>>16232784
its not as hard to drive a v8 powered car like other poorfags are trying to show you(they really can't afford cars with larger engines than 1.4), 95% of people in europe don't give a fuck about cars so they want them to be cheap as possible to mantain and there are a few people like me. But you really can't have a v8 if you live in a cuck country like sweden and netherlands.

>>16221015
Op here,

Y33s are almost too nice to count. Almost.

>>16231886
All w140 chassis cars in the states have been abused and ruined by niggers at this point

I wish landbarges like those of yore would come back some day. but that would be wishful thinking in this future of safety bubbles and rear view cameras.

boy what a time to be alive, when the shitty future from Demolition Man actually looks like a better future than the current path the future is headed.

>>16234052
I'd live in the Demolition Man future if it meant I got to drive that sweet red 442.

>>16234052
imo safety foam is a way better alternative to cramming airbags everywhere. why haven't we gotten on that