[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

You know this will just get filled with images and the cycle restarts.

WE GONNA BE ALL /dbt/ ON /o/

>>16217044
Thats it.
Soon they will increase the image limit to stop us flooding /o/, that or give us our own board.

>>16217048
or ban the cuckold nobikes that keep spamming

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Play that funky music white bike

>>16217050
>thinking people can actually be banned from 4chan

>>16217054
you underestimate the autism, i mean, dedication of some 4chan staff members

>>16217057
It literally takes 10 seconds to change your IP address, delete cookies and no longer be banned.

>>16217060
and then you do the same thing that got you banned before the mod's even finished eating his box of hot pockets

>>16217057
You underestimate the autism of 4chan users, it far exceeds mods

Also
>running to the spook because you are upset

>>16217061
how does that make it less impossible to ban people?
if you are on a phone all you have to do is turn mobile data off then back on and bam new Ip.

>tfw dual stack ipv4 and ipv6

Twice the shitposting

Thoughts on the new Honda Rebel 500?

https://youtu.be/-KeDMQQoq3M

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As a car guy looking to get into bikes, how bad of an idea is pic related?

>>16217120
awful.

Buy a functioning complete bike and ride it instead

>>16217080
>honda
>500
>honda 500
who fucking cares

>>16217149
It looks nice. I love the 250's vintage look, but a 250 is too small for me. I'm looking for a starting bike, what would you recommend?

>>16217160
GSXR750

>>16217160
fz07

>>16217160
VTR1000F

>>16217160

yamaha pw50

Ded

>>16217160
GS500

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R8 my latest gear purchase

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>>16217160
DRZ400S aka "WR450 killer"

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>>16217191
murdered

DRZ for poorfags

>>16217196
Isn't that what you guys call a "meme bike"?

>Want cheapish bike that I can ride half commuting but still fuck around on
>Eyes set on hornet 900, seems perfect
>Ride it
>Can deal with weight
>Corner turn in is dogshit

Well back to the drawing board.

Bought a WR450F, should I get a set of motard wheels for it or just get dual sport tyres?

>>16217244
>Bought a WR450F
sorry for your loss anon.

>>16217219
Not has heavy. Youre probably a weak poofta cunt, just buy a shitty cespa simba scooter

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>>16217244
the way you ride will likely not require grippy 17s but I think putting adventure tyres on a WR450F is equally shameful, it's a dirtbike, it should have knobbies and you should ride it off road.

Get the 17s so you can swap between the two.

>>16217202
Nice, post boipucci

>>16217254
Why
>>16217258
You've convinced me

>>16217258
How can it be a drz killah then?

How do you guys make sure you'll still have 2 legs, 2 arms and a head for the beginning of a new season?

>>16217298
Usually by quitting the drugs

>>16217298
Pay your drug debts

>>16217202
Post your Harley.
>>16217160
Start on a 250, you can open all the throttle and learn how to ride, it's more fun than constantly limit yourself.

>>16217304
>>16217307
I don't do drugs.

>>16217308
250's are for people too stupid to buy a 400

>>16217314
Or for non fatasses.

>>16217120
I want that

>>16217313
Then you have no reason to be missing a limb

>>16217134
>buy a functioning bike

But why

>>16217308
>You can totally push a 250, guys!

And then yet another 250/300 riding faggot runs wide in a corner and is kill. 250 sportbikes go 0-60 in the 5s and run mid-11 quarters. 250 cruisers are only a little slower. Yeah, you can really push a 250 as a learner, no problem.

I can see advocating a 250 because whisky throttle won't be "as bad" and you won't go too far over the speed limit when you get into the groove in a series of gentle corners, but you should still ride cautiously on any motorcycle with streetable performance.

>>16217325
What if one of you druggies hits me with the car on the sidewalk?

>>16217353
Where did I say otherwise?
The point is you can easily reach the bike's limitif you're a noob, as opposed to a 650.

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>>16217308
I'm guessing you started on a 250 and believe yourself to be an amazing rider right?

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>>16217033
I need help
What is this model ? I just know it's a Harley.
Thank.

>>16217360
Why do you need to push the bike's engine to its limit? So you can feel like you're hot shit with your screaming shitbike? Fuck, you can learn to manage shifts with an imaginary redline as well as you can with the actual rev limiter.

The only things you need to push a little to learn are the rider and the tires.

>>16217357
Give me a time and place and I will be your guy.

>SEM POLL ROUND 2
Pick final destination and time frame.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdYldJ_b_Ef-i81_w_iisNgS3LVnJIT_5Lu86ddiez8olTZHQ/viewform

You people are being particularly gay as of late.

Why are people so stupid?
nsfw: http:// vid pr0gramm com/2016/11/23/6d7853d5f8596ee9.mp4
I like riding bikes but why do some people need so much kick that they gotta go so fast they get ripped to pieces?
why not just enjoy the ride instead of dying in a horrible way?

>>16217051

Riding the meme

>>16217427
horses for courses

>>16217427

Gotta go fast. I started doing track days and quit street riding because it's mostly a waste of time.

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****ADVENTURE BIKES HAVE LOST THE PLOT****
>500+ lbs
>100% road wheels + tires
>covered in expensive plastic
>complex, water cooled engines

They're literally a touring bike with worse suspension and strange ergos

>>16217427
not touching that link
but the same reason that people climb without a rope or go base jumping etc
I don't think anyone goes really fast without appreciating the danger in fact it's probably most of the appeal of it

>>16217441
>it's mostly a waste of time.
Must have shit roads.

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>>16217444
Who would ever take this bike offroad?

>>16217080
It looks kewl desu

>>16217447
I would

>>16217213
At this point any bike is a meme bike

>>16217427
Street riding is real,no limits or boundaries.
Unsafe.
Real life.
Not a movie.
>This could be a sticker meme

>>16217445
its a mp4 for ants, nice vid, spare legs every where at the end

>>16217447
people who have the money for it and know they have a high possibility of dropping the heavy thing

>>16217446
>mostly
Oh, there are some fine roads out here, but you can't do the same shit you can do on a race track. Not without seriously endangering yourself and others.

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What if i die riding.

https://youtu.be/-KeDMQQoq3M

>>16217479
did drop anon buy a scooter?

>>16217478
*dons the fedora

Don't ride faster than your angels can fly

>>16217478
Then you're dead and you don't care.

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>>16217464
For the thousandth time, a road is not just the pavement.

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>>16217446
I've got great roads and I totally understand what he's saying.

Track fast is just at a higher pace and intensity, it kind of ruins road fast for you.

>>16217487
I really just show up once a month to troll the specific kind of people that are really proud to commute and go slow on public roads.

>>16217492
>Track fast is just at a higher pace and intensity, it kind of ruins road fast for you.

Yeah. I have a limited amount of time to ride now and track days are dense enough to keep the need abated.

>>16217492
Either yourself or the people you ride with are not crazy enough then
I've met some riders that do the no-plates no-limits kind of riding in the twisties and it's fucking intense. I've never bothered trying hard to keep up because I'd probably crash but watching a few bikes going full throttle and overtaking traffic through corners and on the shoulder without hesitation as if they're riding for their life makes track riding look peaceful.
But I understand, I don't like doing that on the road because I'd rather crash on a track where it's only my fault than have someone pull onto the road or something like that probably killing me, so I have a bit of self restraint and just anticipate that kind of shit and I haven't had a serious incident for years aside from off road riding.

>>16217511

It's a shame that racing is so expensive. Those guys could keep their shit off public roads if they had a job.

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>>16217511
I think I rode fast enough to get the effect don't worry.

I have no interest in being around cars or overtaking cars, I rather the touge be empty.

>>16217219
What condition were the tyres in?

>>16217514
They work in the mines and have more than enough money to buy just about whatever bike they want, they do ride at the track but just tear up the streets because they really don't give a shit about law or safety. They're literally racing each other from one side of the mountain to the other.

>>16217518
I also prefer an empty road but what I mean is if you didn't have these inhibitions the cars would only seem like an extra challenge to prove who has the bigger balls and better skill to make it through the fastest. They're crazy.

>>16217493
>casual weekend rider: the post

>>16217493
Is it such a trigger for you that others can enjoy something you dont¿

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>>16217522
>an extra challenge to prove who has the bigger balls

yeah I don't care about that, riding is about personal improvement, ego is poison to your skills.

>>16217219
S V 6 5 0
V
6
5
0


Best bike. Buy the red one.

>>16217518
Can you please just isolate the scrub crashing on that corner and make webm?

>>16217523
>>16217528
>>16217487
>>16217446

Bought some custom IEMs last week and I have no idea how I ever got by without them before †bh,

>>16217546
I just use ear plugs.

>>16217550
Like to listen to music, plus that's what I meant anyway, normal ear plugs always slip out for me for some reason and feel pretty awful if they don't.

>>16217554
Yeah, proper noise cancelling headphones are necessary if you're going to listen to music.

You don't put them in properly if they're falling out. Roll them thin and poke them into your ear. If you poke the tympanic membrane, you went too far.

>>16217530
you say road riding cannot be intense like the track
i disagree and really it should be even more difficult to find the limits there
and when i say balls i mean:
'can i make it through that gap, can i push that corner a little harder, can i get away with holding off my brakes a little longer'
and if you're racing against others, to win the answer needs to be yes
and some of the riders i've known and seen just keep pushing their luck on the road because they are still racing but there are only their own rules when they disregard the law

>>16217562
Cheers, will try that next time

>>16217575
Sometimes I put them in just a bit too far and it gets annoying, but they work incredibly well if you do it properly. If you just try to shove them down in there, it will not work and likely fall out.

>>16217572
>can i make it through that gap, can i push that corner a little harder, can i get away with holding off my brakes a little longer

That's called racing. Not just track days. Racing. Where you can use expensive race tires and specially tuned bikes to go even faster.

If they're actually fast, then they should just go compete in the IOMTT.

Otherwise they're just posers.

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>>16217575
If you're talking about these things you pinch and roll the tip and poke it in your ear and the trick is holding and pressing them in your ear gently to let them expand properly, they will hold pretty well after that.

I think the reusable firm silicone earplugs are better though just be careful when you take them out because they form a tight seal in your ear canal and make sure you get low profile ones. They're cheap and last forever and easy to wash and beats keeping around a bunch of disposable ones.

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>>16217554
>>16217562
>>16217589

You can actually buy earplug headphones. They are called plugfones.

You have to treat them well but they have good sound quality and keep out a shitload of noise. Great for long plane trips or noisy environments.

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>>16217584
basically this, only when you crash you might not fucking die.

This is why I say the road intensity cannot match the track intensity because eventually you will fall and then you will break your fucking spine on the road while you'll get to ride another day on the track.

There is only so fast you can go on the streets.

>>16217320
>thinking losing 80lbs on a 600+lb bike and rider makes up for 150cc, 60% power gain

Unless you're on of those guys that's fat enough to have both ass cheeks trail the ground on opposite sides of your Harley, that math doesn't check out.

>>16217620
There's no reasoning with these people. They're just street purist posers who think they're special because they ride a bike.

should I buy a KZ1300 or CBX1000? I'm going to convert it to EFI and install a 6-1 exhaust

>>16217638
But why?

If you aren't trying to hipster signal then spend two grand on a newer bike with all around better numbers.

>>16217642
B-but muh vintage restomod

>>16217642
mate, if it was just about the numbers, I'd build a turbo gsx-r. I want a 6-cylinder bike for my next project.

>>16217646

Signalling, got it

>>16217650
sure, if that's what you want to believe, go ahead

>>16217652
Emotional decision, got it.

>>16217652
I'm fucking with you, but I don't personally see the draw of a 40 year old, 600lb+ bike with lots of pipes. It's a bike, get what you want.

www.bikesales.com.au/Private/SSE-AD-4407534

Is this a good first bike?

>>16217658
But that noise. I think the 3 efi will take some of it away tho

>>16217638
If you're going to convert to EFI why not just go the full distance and do a twin turbo build?

>>16217120
Buy a functioning bike you can ride and then fix cosmetic shit. Motorcycle engines aren't worth rebuilding unless they are vintage collectibles because that's easy and usually reasonable. Bike in pic is an organ donor and worthless.

IT HAS NO TITLE. No title? No sale. If PO can't get title you can't either unless skilled at such things, and for that junker there's no reason to bother.

>>16217213
Meme or not they work quite well.

>>16217444
>adventure bike
>literally called urban
it's not an adventure bike you fucknut

>>16217326
>But why

So you don't go broke trying to turn trash into treasure. Get something that just needs a carb cleaning, cosmetics and a battery. That's quite common.

The cheapest to acquire doesn't mean cheapest to turn into a running vehicle, and if you are car guy you should know that.

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The apocalypse has came, anon. Earth is a wasteland. Highways were turned to parking lots overnight and unless you plan on bulldozing your way around you're gonna need a bike.

Choose your bike for post doomsday. Keep in mind the bikes usefulness, running requirements, and maintenance.

>DRZ obvious choice, but in this scenario no working examples exist for sake variety.

>>16217365
The most recognized motorcycles in the world yet you cannot figure out image searching?

It's an antique Knucklehead. History, pics and production timelines about. They are not cheap. If you like the look buy a much later Softail since you aren't a vintage bike mechanic. You can make any big twin look much like any other big twin.

>>16217789
'90 africa twin.
DIY urban camo livery.

>>16217478
>What if i die riding.

You will die of something. Life cannot be clung to.

>>16217638
>I'm going to convert it to EFI and install a 6-1 exhaust

No, you aren't, or you wouldn't ask /dbt/ and you'd already know which to pick and why the idea is stupid.

>>16217795
I will go ahead and agree with you. But they anon need not be scared of old Harley's if he wants to turn a wrench on one. Yeah it might not be cheap but everything up to and including the Evo is fucking simple to work on. I've been working on shovels and evos for years. You don't need to be some magical hipster vintage mechanic. Yo just need some money.

In real SHTF situations performance doesn't matter. Parts, simplicity, easy of maintenance and EMP resistance matter.

I have three Harleys that take points ignitions and plenty of spares.

SHTF faggots totally ignore historic SHTF reality.

Optimal bike is probably a Honda four stroke single trail bike. Low fuel consumption and goes most anywhere.

>>16217824
Yeah thanks for restating what anon said, faget.

I'm in the UK, 29 years old, and would like to get a motorbike and license. From what I've read, I can just take the CBT and then go straight from there to a full "a" license. Am I right about this?

I had been looking at bikes like the yamaha R3 and Duke 390, because although I've ridden bikes before, I haven't ridden a lot. Just random times in life when a friend has a farm and some dirt bikes etc.. So I assumed I should get a starter bike like those I mentioned before getting to anything bigger. What do you fellas think? Would you just go straight to an sv650 or something like that? We may as well assume I've never been on a bike.

>>16217819
If you have large piles of money plenty of indy shops exist. Far fewer that have someone with serious Knuck experience. AMCA meets are a good way to find vintage Harleys and vintage Harley people. In CONUS, Barber Vintage is amazing.

If you've been doing old Shovels for years you are likely old, like me, and had time to get used to their idiosyncrasies. Years fly by. Noobs are best off with Evos or TCs if they want to ride the things. Typical Shovels need considerable unfucking after purchase. I have two and wrenched many more.

Harley parts are pleasantly cheap compared to other brands. It's nice being able to order nearly anything in minutes online.

If OP wants to learn how to wrench we can certainly point him in the right direction, but that wasn't his question.

>>16217833
Yeah true. I guess after dicking around with AMF shit for so long I guess I assume everyone needs to learn how to tear down their bike.

I'd vote for an Evo as well for that OP. Easy ignition, top end, etc if something breaks and I've seen em go 100k on oil and plug changes. Shoot for a 1998 big twin soft tail or something.

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Anyone else think that the black friday deals suck this year?

>>16217853
it's just another way to get your money.

ive got a credit card balance to pay off and added more onto my balance on fucking plane tickets.

fuck the holidays

>>16217853
That's because they started 2 weeks agoand will go on for another week still, probably.

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>>16217421
>imgur a shit

>>16217885
>no sign up required
>drag and drop img and it just werks
>no capcha to fill
>short link

You people complain about everything.
Who are you on the doodle? mandingo dick or boipucci?

>>16217892
>complaining about complaining

Never change, /dbt/.

>>16217120
that's not a bike, it's scrap metal

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>tfw sold the C50 yesterday
>tfw not a cruiser loser anymore

I'm still not sure how I feel about this. I-I think I might be regretting it already.

>>16217616
Got Etymotic MK-5 with the foam eartips (pic related) for riding. Would recommend. Only annoyance is replacing the eartips every 6-8 weeks, but I bought a couple bags of spares recently, so pretty sorted.

>>16217589
The real trick, besides rolling the foam up, is to reach behind your head and pull the top of your ear up & back slightly to straighten your ear canal enough to slide the rolled up eartip straight into the correct depth. As it expands, it should make a perfect & stable fit.

>>16217925
It was an imitation Indian/Harley, anon. Don't feel bad dood.

What you gonna get next.

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>>16217926
derp. pic attached this time...

>>16217562
Active noise cancelling? That's a bit excessive for road use isn't it? Passive cancelling with these foamies got rid of my short term tinnitus by eliminating wind noise, but I can still hear other vehicles etc

>>16217932
Well I already have two other bikes. I'm just going to pocket the cash and main on my 2012 ninja 650 that I never really rode that much before. I also
Have a little v star 250 that was more or less for my ex wife but I'm thinking about just selling that.

Only reason I sold the c50 is because a friend of mine offered me $2k more than I paid for it.

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[hype intensifies]

Too bad they were out of gold.

>>16217947
Ah yes, feelsgoodman when you sell a bike for more than you paid. Did that with my beloved Honda. But 2k profit is pretty hard to turn down.

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I wanna share the near highside from last Saturday again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9D6aR8krjA

>>16217965
Exactly. I had a friend over yesterday for thanksgiving and out of nowhere he just says "I'll give you $5k for the Suzuki"

I mean I loved the bike and all but gibe monies pls

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>>16217980
Noice dude, I TOTALLY NEARLY HIGHSIDED myself last trackday.

It was a wonder I managed to stay on.

>>16217999
noice

>>16217999
Didja stay out for the rest of the session or pit in?

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>>16218044
nah that was nothing I was memeing.

and of course I stayed out because I had only just managed to break free from the tyranny of the "three shitters on ducatis with more power than me who take insane lines which makes them hard to overtake" so i was a little overexcited trying to make sure they'd never get close to me ever again.

>>16218053
The speed difference between you and them in a corner tells me one of you is in the wrong group.

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>>16218063
I think they were first timers, they should have been in the slow group.

Such is life on a 70 hp bike though, working up toward the next speed group because I'm sick of getting held up on like 50% of the corners.

The traffic on the last track day was particularly incomprehensible compared to the first.

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>>16218068
forgot to mention the worst bit which was that I shared a garage with some of the ducati nutjobs. Foot was in danger of causing a black hole in the arse of the red ducati who nearly took me out in that "ducatis" webm

>>16218083
Can confirm, am Ducati 1198 rider. Went to first track day and requested to put in babby group because the bike is very wheelie happy.

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>>16218101
>throttle control is hard

>>16218101
You've never ridden, one. So shut the fuck up about shit you don't know. Corner exit throttle on will easily bring the front end up because it has tork out that ass. Its a common complaint about the bike on the track dumbass.

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>>16218103
>not using rear brake as anti wheelie/corner exit drive control

>>16218101
If it is your first day you should be defaulted to the baby group... I hear so many stories of people getting put in a higher group than they are ready for because of the bike they are on... What organization were you riding with?

>>16218112
YES

MORE OF THESE

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you know what?
fuck it, i was wrong
italians really are niggers

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>>16218126
more greentexts about motorcycle riding techniques or more webms from taxi?

or maybe you mean more webms of people getting their kneedown in jeans?

how am I to know? I have all 3 ready to go.

>>16218133
ALL OF THEM

>>16218120
Cornerspeed and MAD.

I had been on a few rides with other guys from the shop and hung with them on the twisties and wanted to go to a track day with them. So they set it up, I got my bike ready and we trailerd out there, did my paperwork and apparently nobody got the memo I had never been to a track. Let alone one on an 1198.

Sooo yeah, minor oversight but I wasnt about to drop my fucking bike trying to run with the big kids.

>>16218112
>drive a duc fast
>get passed by a Peugeot taxi with some spoilers

Ducati a shit

>>16218139.
Not such a big deal then. Good thing they asked you when you registered though.

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>>16218136
uhh I'll try.

>believing keith code

>>16217219
buy a red SV650AL7 so we finally have the complete set

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>>16218129
this is absolutely fucking glorious
>that broken italian

>>16218157
Who the fuck is keith code

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>>16218170
friend of xenu

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>clean carbs
>adjusted carbs
>adjusted idle
IT IS A DREAM
IT WILLIES FO DAYS
IT STARTS FIRST KICK
IT SOUNDS LIKE AN ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL TRACTOR
IT'S TT 600S

>>16218157
as a pizza delivery rider on one of these scooters you go faster by hanging off but scraping shit everywhere earns maximum style points

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>>16218133
Taxi, you shit

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>>16218190
oh ok

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How do I import one of these into EU? It's literary my dream baiku.

>>16218216
your dreams are small you pathetic weeb

>>16218216
you buy the superior 1300
>insert shivvy_and_cb.jpg

>>16218221
>weeb
Even worse, hipster.

>>16218225
Too much power.

>>16218236
License issue?

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>>16218216
You spend a lot of money buying a bike that is not really worth spending a lot of money on.
t. someone who owns one.

>>16217892
>Who are you on the doodle? mandingo dick or boipucci?

Mandingopucci. Why limit yourself?

>>16218260
No, it's just that I tried test riding a bike with over 100 hp before and it scared the crap out of me. I don't think I'll ever buy something with over 75-80 hp.

>>16218268
So we're basically the equivalent of cruisercucks?

>>16218286
Not really, just be pointless importing one, you could get a better bike for much less.
they are expensive where i live and they are a common bike here.

>>16217845
Solid recommendation. Late '90s have splined transmission shaft, Denso starters, CV carb etc so there's nothing urgent to fuck with.

>>16218286
How about CB 500 instead? 499cc twin, not too much power, but 10500rpms of fun, also Honda reliability.

>>16218286
>No, it's just that I tried test riding a bike with over 100 hp before and it scared the crap out of me. I don't think I'll ever buy something with over 75-80 hp.

The jump from 48hp to 85 took a little bit of adjustment, like a week.
I have 85hp, doesn't ride that much different than my dads bike, which has 105hp.

>>16217202
where do you strip? I have some extra dollar bills

>>16218298
samefag here.

Yeah I have a 1998 Superglide FXD and will never put forward controls on it because I like fucking with 600cc sportslut riders. Mild SE cam and an S&S carb and performance exhaust that's all been dyno tuned. So much fucking grunt. Doesn't handle like complete garbage but you gotta work for it if you're gonna be in it to win it. Also all maint can be done at home with basic tools and a manual. Its the last uncomplicated Hardly Dadison built imo.

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why is everyone in europe getting a KTM SMC R as a first big bike?

>expensive for what it is
>ugly (subjective)
>heavy
>ktm reliability
>restricted to 40hp for A2

>>16218351
because STAY G R E N Z I G
MEME MOTO

>>16218194
why did you stop

>>16218351
Because they can afford one instead of a drz400

>>16218380
used smcr start at 6k for shitty ones, DRZ start at 4k

>>16218182
webm of willies pls xthx

>>16218393
And the people buying the ktms can afford the ktm's what is not to get?

Not everyone wants a bike that was designed in the 90's.

>>16218406
yeah but still
>expensive for what it is
for 8k you can get a street triple and a grom

or 5 groms

>>16218451
or a gixxer

>>16218451
my guess is they are too stupid to buy a cheap road bike and a dirt bike so they have the best of both worlds rather than the worst of both but who really knows?

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>>16218469
Literally nothing wrong with buying an uncomprimised bike over a compromised one. People think I'm really fucking stupid for wanting the new Africa Twin.

Sometimes people don't want to buy a CR500, a Honda Goldwing, and a ZX-10R. Sometimes people just want a bike that does pretty alright at most things and thats "okay."

If anything its responsible. Also, aren't superports and hyperbikes having terrible sales now that the sport/hyper touring, super standard, and ADV bikes are cashing in on their demographics? I think so. People be votin' with their dolla dolla bills about what they want in a bike. Expect to see more and more do-it-all bikes (or meme bikes as anon calls them.)

Also pictured is a fucking amazing uncomprimised bike.

>>16218337
Sputhe make a Positrac stabilizer kit for late Dynas. http://www.sputhe.com/

I've not installed one cuz I have two FXRs and no Dyna or customers who care about handling for me to sell on a mount, but Sputhe have made awesome parts for a very long time. vtwinforum has some good threads on various stabilizer options in the FXR, touring and Dyna sections. Harley Tech Talk is useful too.

Fuck forwards. I can downshift and brake with my heels if on highway and mids take a load off your spine.

I had dual front discs on my '88 from new with the factory left slider/caliper kit, but converted to "non-Brembo" four-piston calipers and love it. Did my FXLR along with an FXRT fork swap. The Bikers Choice bracket kit works fine, but bleed the system before tightening the mount bolts and installing the shim washers lest ye get the fucker slighly off and the system refuse to bleed. Plenty of single calipers available if ya don't want to swap fork sliders. I just look out for 39mm dual disc setups at chopper or non-Harley meets. Piss on paying Ebay prices for that shit.

A wonderful part for Evos (no longer made because customers are so used to rubber boots and compliance fittings) is the Ram Jett intake. You won't find them used with the .750" length stock small 12pt head bolts very often, but Allen heads work too if the OD is reduced slightly by spinning against a bench grinder. No more rubber bullshit and no more bolting the airbox to the cylinder heads for support. I hung a Super B off mine until a few years ago when I switched to the E cuz I can't buy ethanol resistant Bendix pumps for my pump kit any more.

Example, not mine, note stamped E on casting. Price is OK but if you do swap meets they go about half that. No one seems to know what they are. :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ram-jett-flange-style-intake-manifold-84-89-evo-big-twin-with-s-s-super-e-/282250411663?hash=item41b76f7e8f:g:doAAAOSwcUBYI3u1&vxp=mtr

>>16218519
Id rather have a road bike and a dirt bike.

my cb400 does "pretty alright" off road, does not mean it is a dual sport that could fill the place of two bikes though.

>>16218519
but a 160kg supermoto with bad reliability for a high price is a shitty compromise

>>16218555
Who told you they have bad reliability though?
My guess is no one and you have never actually talked to someone who owns one, everyone i have met with one has never had an issue with it.

That reddit meme of ktm's being low quality can only really hold up for so long....

>>16218519
supersports are rocking like ever. New gixxer, new fireblade in the making, R1M, H2 kinda yada yada

beginner or "standard" bikes are exploding though. 500, 300, Groms, z125, fz07 and so on.

understandable, people want to commute and tour. If you're not deeply involved in that hobby there is no need for a dedicated supersport or dirtbike, just get some comfy middleclass thingy that looks good.

Only homos ride motorcycles

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>>16218531
Super E's are the bomb. I'll look into the stabilizer. Then again I have baby apes sooooooo usually I just deal with it. Once you have 30k miles on a bike you tend to figure it out.

>>16218584
Only homos ride Hondas*
FTFY

>>16218570
I've met many bikers who love "compromise" bikes for street use despite owning MANY specialty bikes, owning shops and dealerships, or being into racing.

They can afford whatever they want, they've ridden everydamnthing, and they like sport-tourers and larger ADV bikes. Many of them grew up hooning then racing and beat the shit out of their off-road machines in the dirt and their vintage and newer race toys on the track.

KTM caters to that market because people there can afford one or several KTMs. If you want demo rides they bring trailers to rallies and events. Barber Vintage in Leeds, AL has the newest KTMs every year and plenty of time for KTMophiles to ride them.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/video-ktm-ambassador-chris-fillmore-rips-up-the-barber-vintage-motorcycle-festival-with-three-different-ktms/

If you can make Barber IDGAF what you ride, there's something there you'll enjoy. Sell a kidney, rent weak male relatives to /b/ for sexing, but go by any means necessary. The museum has more than a thousand motorcycles and you can tour their restoration facilities.

>>16218591
All motorcyclists are gay

>>16218613
I agree, i love eating out a boipucci before inserting my penis.

>>16218623
Same here

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>>16218562

>>16218651
Canada master race

>>16218562
my guess is that 75% of the bikers younger than 25 around here have a KTM supermoto, half of them were losing oil

>>16218585
I love apes because of my bad back. I run solid riser bushing/washers on bikes with separate risers, or integral riser Front Street Cycle 14" apes w. 2" risers. Bushing don't help that much and I don't like rock. I like FSS bars enough to buy three and a spare. FSS makes them to your spec and is worth the wait. Beat a fat lead fishing sinker into the bar ends for even less vibe.

I taught military MSF courses with apes. No problem slamming from peg mount to peg mount in exaggerated demos either. HD CG on big twins is low. My wife was Air Force too and threw her '82 Shovel Low Rider around just as aggressively. If it grinds off ya don't need it anyway.

Fork springs are worth fiddling with. I run 2" PVC spacers on mine. Progressive springs etc are nice but not mandatory.

Braided front brake lines make a dramatic difference in brake feel. I piece them together from 3 AN Russell lines and fittings off Ebay out of habit, but kits are fine if they fit your bars.

BTW always red Loctite your S&S aircleaner housing screws. I've never lost a cover but I shook off a couple of screws that I didn't Loctite over the years.

I like tall final drive gearing and buy belts and sprockets in advance. Baker, and beltdrivewizard on Ebay offer a good variety. vtwinforum has gearing charts in their FXR thread and elsewhere.

>>16218663
>half of them were losing oil

Not a KTM owner, but unless you lose enough to risk engine damage, burn enough to foul plugs, or soak something you care about, so what? Oil is cheap and what specifically breaks or malfunctions matters more than mere reliability rate drivers.

KTMAnons, what breaks that really matters and how much for shit like top end jobs?

>>16218663
I'm "losing" oil too.
Because of faulty o-rings in header and it just burning the shit.

I just buy some oil every now and then.

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>>16218690
>>16218696

>>16218711
I don't have a KTM though.

>>16218613
Only true faggots don´t fuck other men

>>16218690
>guys a broken bike is fine

- KTM shill

>>16218690
>It's perfectly fine for a bike to leak oil guys

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How crazy would it be to take a late 90's sportster across country?

Pic related,

>>16218690
On one hand the most reliable bike i have ever owned is my ktm 300, on the other hand the least reliable bike i have ever owned was a ktm 250 exc-f

>>16218690
put yo trip back on kitkat

>>16218663
whats this ktm's using oil meme?
the only time a bike uses oil is if the rings on the piston are fucked or if it is a 2 stroke...

>>16218794
>if the rings on the piston are fucked

so a KTM?

>>16218809
Your ignorance is showing.
KTM use the best pistons and rings available on the market, maybe if it has non OEM parts in the engine.

>>16218812
no proofs?
fuck off then, KTM shill.

>>16218817
Why would i dig through google looking for information you aren't even going to read?

it is fairly common knowledge that OEM KTM parts are top of the line.

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>>16218812
>KTM use the best pistons and rings available on the market

the shill is real

>>16218794
>the only time a bike uses oil is if the rings on the piston are fucked or if it is a 2 stroke...
Or it's air/oil cooled.

>>16218824
Name a ktm that is air/oil cooled

>>16218831
I was talking about bikes in general, don't know much about KTMs.

>>16218835
well the topic was ktms apparently having a problem with using oil according to people who don't own a ktm

>>16218839
>the only time a bike uses oil
That's what I replied too. Also my bike uses oil, internally the engine is fine and it's a 4 stroke.

> the shill goes full damage control

L M A O
M
A
O

>>16218822
OEM KTM pistons are forged, they last twice as long as cast pistons.

>>16218842
You have nfi.
If it uses oil then no, internally the engine is not fine.
Either the rings on the pistons are worn or one of the main crank seals is leaking.
How long has it been blowing blue smoke for mate?

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>>16218848
WOW
I'm impressed, they use better pistons but still are inferior to jap bikes

>>16218651

>>16218856
>If it uses oil then no, internally the engine is not fine.
It does that since factory 15 years ago, it's known they do it.

>Either the rings on the pistons are worn or one of the main crank seals is leaking.
It's fine.

>How long has it been blowing blue smoke for mate?
It doesn't use enough for blue smoke, but I do lose like 0,5L every 5k km, more when I'm going fast.

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>>16218860
Inferior in what way?
Last time i checked every single bike ktm makes out performs its competition when it comes to performance.

As far as reliability goes japanese bikes are just as bad if not worse than KTMs, plus at least KTMs don't snap in half under the fuel tank.

>>16218770
It's been done quite often and isn't remotely crazy. Go immediately to xlforum for infinite Sportster info.

There are no reliability issues so all you need is an acceptable level of comfort. You ain't gonna hurt it. You can fit a taller final drive pulley setup to drop highway revs if want and pack a duffel firmly as a back rest.

You can score touring seats off Ebay since touring isn't a beauty contest. You can have a stock pan done by a local upholster shop. (Bring pics of what you want.) I attach my seats with a wingnut and stud instead of a bolt for ease of maintenance and you can do the same for seat swaps.

Traditional windshields work very well so no need to spend fairing money unless want.

>>16218762
>>It's perfectly fine for a bike to leak oil guys

It may trigger autism but even jet fighter engines and hydraulics have weep limits. I'm more interested in WHAT leaks oil. Cosmetic issues shouldn't matter on a machine you are going to bury in mud and beat the weeping fuck out of.

Caring about oil seepage on a dirt bike is like caring about ball hairs in a urinal.

>>16218856
Engines need not foul plugs or smoke if consuming oil.

When did oil get valuable?

>>16218787
What year 250 did you have? Did it have a really tall engine with the water pump on the top left?

>>16218876
>As far as reliability goes japanese bikes are just as bad if not worse than KTMs, plus at least KTMs don't snap in half under the fuel tank.

you can't just claim the opposite if theres a consumer report that shows proof that KTM a shit 3x as much

enough shill for today

>>16218824
What does air cooling have to do with burning oil?

>>16218878
Thanks mate, looking for something more comfortable then my last bike and leaning towards a cruiser which is unusual for me. I don't want something 600+ lbs though or something decked in chrome, as I like flickable bikes even though a sportster is still heavy. Seems like it might fit the bill.

>>16218884
2007

>>16218889
>consumer report that shows proof that KTM a shit 3x as much
[citation needed]

>>16218889
You are comparing a company that nearly exclusively makes racing motorcycles to companies that make majority cruisers for the road.

Compare the dirt bikes.

>>16218892
They get fucking hot, margins are a bit larger so when they're cold some oil can leak through, which gets burned.

I'm used to having a bike that uses oil, even though the engine is in good shape.

>i dont own a bike but will give my opinions about a certain brand

>>16218889
>comparing dirt bikes to street bikes
High performance dirt bikes are inherently unreliable and maintenance intensive. Most of KTM's sales are high performance dirt bikes. Comparing that to a company that makes grandpa touring bikes is really no comparison at all. Compare them to CRFs and the KTM will still come out on top.

>>16218912
yawn

MXGP is fairly even between KTM and japs, more so for japs if you look at the last 10 years

they're not the best at anything, that's why they cancelled the RC8R because and that's why they hire shills

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tt tho

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dbt i want advice.
looking at buying my first pair of leathers (specifically trousers - i already have a jacket). I wanna know how leather trousers (race fit, knee sliders and a fairly aggressive crouch pre-shape) fit in terms of jeans fit types? Like if you had to categorise your race fit leather trousers as slim fit, skinny, super skinny, regular etc, how would you? I have a smaller waist than hips and I dunno whether i should buy a pair for my waist or hip size as I'm concerned how they're gonna fit around my actual legs - i.e. thighs & calves.

thanks in advance

>>16219006
go somewhere and wear them for test u returd

Are scooter riders cucks?

>slow
>small
>no gear changing
>high pitched whiny engine
>only teenagers or girls ride them
>they dont nod back

>>16219006
Try them on if you can. if you are doing flea-bay, you buy by waist size, like jeans, but you can go a little big because they generally have adjusters and an elastic waistband. Leather will stretch to fit BUT zippers won't, so if there is a zipper around the waist, you will get no stretch there, ever.

Legs of off-the-rack stuff can be a little sloppy, but that is better for sitting.

>>16219048
One does not nod to scooters

>>16219066
>He doesn`t nod to girls while powering past on a KLR 650.

Shame m8

>>16219081
To be fair, he's a virgin.

>>16218889
Metrics matter. WHAT drove reliability rates matters far more IRL than mere totals.

You could have a high reliability rate with occasional catastrophic engine failure or frame breakage.

You could have a low reliability rate with none of the above.

You could have a middling reliability rate with a mix of failures.

>What does air cooling have to do with burning oil?

Air cooled engines tend to run looser piston/ring clearances to accomodate thermal expansion. Liquid cooling permits tighter clearances, and helps meet emission regs where applicable because tighter control of cylinder and head temps.

>>16218893
1200s are popular because they are light, narrow and have decent mid-range torque. You can build a Sportster axle-to-axle using zero Harley parts and they are easy to work on.

The solid mount versions vibrate more than the rubbermount, but the rubbermount Sportsters weigh about as much as my FXRs and the FXR is a much better machine for my use case. Not likely a problem for you but solid mount engines have easily accessible "cassette" gearboxes. Rubbermount Sporty engine require a horrifically expensive engine disassembly to replace transmission parts. The original cassette gearbox was a 1950s performance thing. It cost more to make so the bean counters got rid of it.

Also consider late 1990s Dynas for cross country work. They weigh about 600 but they are narrow like most HDs, have rubbermounted drivetrains done the right way for easy service, and of course vibe less.

Self and countless other bikers go cross country on everyfuckingthing. Plenty of Americucks did it on small Honda twins like the 305 and 350. Honda mos def not a shit.

I began riding when a Sportster was still a sport bike in the 1970s so I'm jaded about vibes, but I don't tour in a hurry and with Waze enjoy even more back roads.

Check out chopper forums like Chop Cult for a decent HD community. Sportster riders are often younger and haven't mentally fossilized.

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>>16218893
>>16219112
Might also be worth noting, that the Sporster frame is smaller than the big-twin frames. So, if you´re a tall(er) guy, you should consider a non-sportster framed HD.
FXR or a Dyna would be a good handling(on a Harley-scale) choice.

>>16219112
Why are the rubbermounts so much heavier?

>>16219174
It's not just the mounts, in 2004 HD "updated" a whole lot of parts including the frame, the result was just fat.

>>16219216
Explains why my dads 2005 or 6 fatboy feels like riding an overweight horse that isnt trained.

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noob rider here with some questions
1. Why is friction zoning so difficult?
2. Why is making a u-turn so difficult?
3. Why is my bike so damn hot?
4. When does this actually become fun?

>>16219225
so just like when I ride ur mom lmaoooo

>>16219237
first two:
because you're American
third: depends on the bike and your riding style
fourth:
when you git gud and or embrace death

>>16219237
>1. Why is friction zoning so difficult?
Because you haven't practiced enough.
>2. Why is making a u-turn so difficult?
Because you haven't practiced enough.
>3. Why is my bike so damn hot?
You're sitting on an engine.
>4. When does this actually become fun?
When you don't suck at riding.

>>16219237
0. Because you have a fucking death grip on the bars. The less weight you support with your wrists, the more control over your hands you will have. Sportbike, dirtbike, or standard, stomp on those begs and keep your arms loose and everything will come to you.
1. See above. Also counterlean by weighting the outside peg and maybe shifting your butt.
2. Because it's a confined explosion chamber.
3. When you git gud.

>>16218651
>Reliablity by brand
>Reliablity

At least put some effort into it.

>>16219237
>>1. Why is friction zoning so difficult?
It's not
>2. Why is making a u-turn so difficult?
It's not
>3. Why is my bike so damn hot?
Because your not riding fast enough
>4. When does this actually become fun?
What's not fun about it?

>tfw linked brakes from 1998
>tfw can't use the rear for U-turns
>tfw delinking involves machining new mounts for replacement master cyllinders

my rear brake is squeaking like mad, whats wrong with it?

>>16219308
dirty/worn pads

mine did the same thing until i pulled everything out and cleaned it

>squeak squeak squeak squeak

Is there any way i can get the weight of just an engine?
Or just the frame?

>>16219308
Mine squeaks and I think It's time for both the rotor and pads to be changed

>>16219297
>using rear brake for U-turns

what

>>16219326
>he doesn't know

you can go pretty slow by slipping the clutch, but you can go even slower and make a tighter turn with the rear brake

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Ayy lmao

should I buy a Honda Hornet PC36 (carbed), PC41 (EFI), or should I say fuck it and just get the 900 Hornet?

>>16219350
Just buy the hornet.

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>>16219357
but they're all hornets

>>16219350
Go the 900.

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Right, so now that the c50 is gone and the 650 is my main what's the best tail cancer eliminator kit and wut exhaust do I buy?

>>16219368
how's the abortion?

>>16218519
Why does every sport touring bike need to weigh a fucktonne and have the max lean angle of a harley? Why not put risers, a lightweight luggage rack, and a cushier seat on a CBR?

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>>16219368
>what's the best tail cancer eliminator kit
Sawzall nigga

>>16219396
Lel but I have to be able to relocate my turn signals. Thinking about going integrated but idk if that's a option for a 2012 ninja 650 memebike

>>16219368
What happened to the boulevard

Also have you ever ridden an older buell xb9r?

>>16219359
That's the joke.wav

>>16219396
I fucking hate sawed off fender eliminations. Every single used sportbike has them, and they all leave a jagged, uneven edge that you have to even out and sand smooth.

>>16219338
why dont you just turn normally and apply more throttle so you can turn tighter

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>>16219408
Sold it for $2k more than I bought it for.
>older Buell xb9r
Yeah they're fun. I prefer the new EBR's tho. Way punchier and more fun to ride.

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>>16219412
Seems easy enough to clean it up instead of spending a bunch on a kit

>>16219419
You can still use the rear brake to modulate power delivery and compress the suspension, decreasing turning radius

Rear brake = tighter turns is a well accepted fact.

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>>16219437
Meh it doesn't seem like too much.

Pic related. I can get it at wholesale cost too because I work at a dealership. Probably gonna get it for 80 bux

>>16218690

Roller Rocker Bearings.

Just check them when you do your valves or change them, $70 and very easy to do once open. Worst case you lose a camshaft ($200) if it seizes. Would also recommend changing the automatic tensioner for a manual cam chain tensioner.

Would you buy a street bike that has corrosion/pitting on almost every bolt on it?

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Going to look at this tomorrow, any thoughts or experiences with them? Things I should look for out of the ordinary? Guy says the ABS pump is currently not working, but otherwise it's in good shape, about 40k miles.

>>16218770
I am a chinook mechanic, flight engineer, and pilot. The chinook has the highest operational readiness of any aircraft in US Army inventory.

We also have a saying, "if something isn't leaking in the cabin something is wrong/broken"

>>16219436
I think I'll be getting an xb9r for my next bike because
>Cheapest way into a Harley
And also the handling seems good

Also good job

I deleted all of my furry and weeaboo hentais and have been hitting steeper leans than ever. Like magic.

Strips soon.

>>16219573
Buell is better than that Harley crap. Only downside is that early gen buells still had to have the evo engine in it. 1125cr has rotax engine.

What's the best year for the DRZ400? I'd prefer a kick start.

>>16219632
Yeah I know that, but I can't afford a 5k motorcycle, a 2k bike I can

>>16219639
Wr125

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>>16219639
WR450

inb4
>but oil changes and maintenance are haaaaard
>$100 and an hour of my time every year for top ends fuuuuck thaaaaaat
>waaaaaaaaaaaah

it's not a fucking commuter. it's not fun as a commuter. it's a fuck-around, bad-to-the bone dirtbike and the cost to have it just sitting around is negligible, and if you live in a good state that doesn't force motorcycleists to buy insurance, doesn't exist.

I've noticed wearing a high collar coat and a helmet seals out the cold weather so well I'm thinking about using my helmet as casual everyday wear

>>16219552
How the fuck are you going to hoon with that

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>>16219237
>Americans

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>>16219705
>pic related

But I also don't really plan to hoon much. I've got a Focus ST for fun shit like that. I want something comfy I can cruise around the country on.

>>16219754
>uses car for fun and motorcycle for comfy

something is wrong here

>>16219754
>Car for hooning, bike for cruising

You got this all backwards mate

>>16219767
>>16219771
I actually agree with you entirely. I don't have a good explanation, but it's what works for me.

When to replace tires? I noticed a sort of sliding sensation from the rear when making tight turns like going right off a stopsign. The rear tire are 50-50 dual sport tires and their pretty flat but have like a 1/4 inch of tread at the center. Thats 6mm for your metricfags. No wear indicators that I'vr seen.

They are Avon Distanzas and its a klr650.

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>>16219794
replace them with you dont like how they look, if you squared them off good your cornering traction will be shit, so keep that in mind when riding.

>>16219692
Yes. I really want to wear my full face Fulmer and highneck parka for skiing but the yuppies would probably call the cops on me or something.

>>16218112
what a beautiful shot!!!

>>16219809
Yeah they're square. That's the best way to describe them. Thanks.

>>16219533
>Would you buy a street bike that has corrosion/pitting on almost every bolt on it?

It had better suck cock and do housework for me to put up with that insult, but the cam and rocker bearings sound painless and I'd check bearing houses for higher grade matches to those bearings. Most bearings come in a variety of grades for each nominal size and bearing supplier tech support can help match them up, Some engineers are dicks and use oddball bearings, but most keep it simple. I'd keep wear parts like that hanging on the wall like I do with my other bikes. If ya know you'll need it, buy it in advance.

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>>16219564
I had some fun interaction with Chinook before our earmark got killed. We figured out how to chop and channel the aluminum hull on an M113 and do a hybrid repower so it would fit in a CH-47 and carry a 30mm autocannon mounted on a RWS to the fight. (The point of tracked firepower is mobility to the airhead, not being roadbound IED bait. APS can take care of ATGW and the Army is finally exploring that with Raytheon since too cheap to buy Trophy from Israel.)

The Army handed our group one of the first Chinook hulls for testing along with an M113. Still hunting some Congressional love or maybe SOCOM money. We'll see what the new folks in DC might support.

I'm not a rotorhead by trade. Worked Broncos, Phantoms and F-16s (avionics, engines, later crew chief). Odd mix but big fun.

new bread
>>16219877
>>16219877
>>16219877

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>>16217478
THEN YOU RIDE ETERNAL IN VALHALLA